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State Depít suspected in April that Libyan guards at Benghazi consulate had tried to attack it
Hot Air ^ | 8:01 pm on October 15, 2012 | Allahpundit

Posted on 10/15/2012 10:09:04 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

Time for your daily reminder that State didn’t merely stick Chris Stevens with “average” security despite him living and working in one of the jihadi-est places on earth. The security they provided him was actively, inexplicably, inexcusably bad. And before you read any further, let me remind you that the ominous chat-room message posted by Sean Smith the day he died about a Libyan guard taking photos of the compound still hasn’t been addressed by anyone in the government that I’ve seen. Did Stevens’s security break down to the point that his killers actually had someone on the inside?

More red flags from Reuters:

State Department officials suspected that two Libyan guards hired by its own security contractor were behind an April incident in which a homemade bomb was hurled over the wall of the special mission in Benghazi, according to official emails obtained by Reuters…

The April attack illustrated concerns among some U.S. officials in Libya that hiring local residents for embassy guard duties could in itself raise security issues.

The emails identified one of the suspects in that incident as a former employee of Blue Mountain Group who had been fired four days earlier for vandalism, and said the other was still working for the company. Both were unarmed guards who performed routine security tasks, such as screening visitors.

Both suspects were ultimately released after being interrogated by the local “police,” a.k.a. the February 17 Martyrs Brigade, which was partly responsible for providing security for the consulate and whose members were last seen hiding on the roof during the attack because they weren’t ready for it. No word on whether either of them was still working for Blue Mountain on 9/11, but that brings us to another unanswered question. Why did State hire Blue Mountain, an inexperienced firm, in the first place?

Other firms in the security industry expressed surprise that Blue Mountain had won a large, high profile contract from the US government. One industry executive said the level of service Blue Mountain provided did not appear adequate to the risks presented by a lawless city.

“We have visited the consulate in Benghazi a number of times and have an excellent relationship with the Americans. Our assessment was the unarmed Libyan guards were extremely poor calibre,” said one security source. “The Libyan Ministry of Interior are generally not happy with Blue Mountain and had them on their close observation/target list.”

The New York Times last week reported that major security firms with a track record of guarding US premises elsewhere had made approaches to undertake work in Libya but were rebuffed.

“We went in to make a pitch, and nothing happened,” a security firm official told the newspaper.

Blue Mountain had six employees on the scene, five Libyans and one British supervisor recruited from “the celebrity bodyguard circuit.” Security was sufficiently weak that BM’s local affiliate, Blue Mountain Libya, complained to its parent company this past summer that the resources they were being given weren’t enough. State was asked to intervene in the dispute between the two — but chose to do nothing. So it came to be that the U.S. ambassador ended up on 9/11 at a consulate that was vulnerable even according to its own security detail, and which State had had ample opportunity to fortify. Meanwhile, on the same day, the U.S. embassy in Barbados enjoyed protection from a detail of Marines. “Smart power,” 2012.

Just as O’s interest in an “easy” intervention in Libya made a difficult intervention in Syria more difficult, State’s decision to half-ass security for the Benghazi consulate has created a new, bigger security headache for the White House in Libya. Namely, how hard do they hit the local jihadis in reprisal? The Libyan government doesn’t want to approve an attack lest it be seen as a U.S. stooge at a moment when it’s trying to build legitimacy, and the U.S. doesn’t want to raise the profile of a group like Ansar al-Sharia by making it the Great Satan’s new enemy number one. There is a compromise solution, but of course it’s not ready yet. If only State had thought of this before letting a smile be Chris Steven’s umbrella against the mujahedeen.


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KEYWORDS: benghazi; candycrowley; davidaxelrod; libya; mediawingofthednc; partisanmediashills; shadowwars; threatmatrix
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1 posted on 10/15/2012 10:09:10 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Marine_Uncle; TigersEye; SunkenCiv; NormsRevenge

More nitty gritty ....


2 posted on 10/15/2012 10:12:05 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

According to what I heard Rudy Gulliani say on Greta tonight, this same embassy had already been attacked 2 times prior to the September attack.

I thought to myself that if this is the case that would rule out any possibility that any security sytem or video link described by Col. Hunt was not yet activated.

Every day a bit more comes out, and every day barack Obama looks more like a dirty rat.

I think this situation has reached critical mass.


3 posted on 10/15/2012 10:14:23 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Excellent article.

Do you believe, as some here do, that this was a kidnapping scheme which got out of hand?


4 posted on 10/15/2012 10:14:45 PM PDT by arrogantsob (The Disaster MUST Go. Sarah herself supports Romney.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Good grief!

"We jest had no ideer there was any danger 'round there. Seemed peaceful 'nuf to us." - Hillary and the Statios

5 posted on 10/15/2012 10:28:30 PM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: arrogantsob
no...See the Timeline thread :

Timeline of Libya Consulate attack reveals administration contradictions (Blockbuster)

6 posted on 10/15/2012 10:38:22 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: chris37
I think there must have been a video link working....rumors of a 50 minute video tape.

And I think a drone with camera showed up an hour after the attack started.

7 posted on 10/15/2012 10:41:33 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: TigersEye
Someone in the State Dept Security organization is looking very bad....

Ms Lamb?

She looked absolutely awful at the ISSA hearing.

8 posted on 10/15/2012 10:45:05 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: chris37
Lots of Action in Washington...see the threads on Hillary's Statement and Sen mcCain, Graham....letter to Obama.

Major stuff!

You can find that by clicking the libya keyword ...in case you didn't know that.

9 posted on 10/15/2012 10:51:36 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: arrogantsob

I’m past the point of starting to believe that.. The FBI delaying their investigation for the purpose of ensuring the scene would be compromised is a huge red flag.


10 posted on 10/15/2012 10:54:47 PM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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To: chris37
From the comments at the hot Air website on this article:

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Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said the bucks stops with her when it comes to who is blame for a deadly assault on the U.S. diplomatic mission in Benghazi.

“I take responsibility” for what happened on September 11, Clinton said in an interview with CNN’s Elise Labott soon after arriving in Lima, Peru for a visit. The interview, one of a series given to U.S. television networks Monday night, were the first she has given about the attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi.

Clinton insisted President Barack Obama and Vice President Joe Biden are not involved in security decisions, Clinton said.

Look who’s, ahem, wearing the blue dress now?

TXUS on October 15, 2012 at 8:55 PM

11 posted on 10/15/2012 11:12:47 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Oh man...if that is the case about the drone with a camera showing up...there’s going to be some big geese cooked on this.

And if in fact there is a tape...it begs the question, why was no action taken to save the victims in there?

This goes so far beyond Watergate...this even goes beyond the fiction of Absolute Power. This is HUGE!


12 posted on 10/15/2012 11:14:26 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: All
More from the comments:

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who told susan rice to LIE…that is the question NO ONE has the cajones to ask her or anyone in this administration

cmsinaz on October 15, 2012 at 8:07 PM

…exactly!

KOOLAID2 on October 15, 2012 at 8:57 PM

13 posted on 10/15/2012 11:14:54 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: chris37

“I think this situation has reached critical mass.”

You are right.

And, just like “Fast and Furious”, some underlings will be reassigned or resign.

No one at the top will be held accountable for the deaths of the Americans they are responsible for.

The media and Congress will guarantee that travesty of justice.


14 posted on 10/15/2012 11:15:58 PM PDT by MikeSteelBe (Austrian Hitler was, as the Halfrican Hitler does.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

One of 0bama’s favorite tactics is to pile lies on top of more lies so that no one can figure out what the hell REALLY happened. ‘Fast & Furious’ comes to mind..


15 posted on 10/15/2012 11:20:42 PM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

“Insisted President Barack Obama and Vice President Joe Biden are not involved in security decisions...”

Obama stated “She’s right - I couldn’t care less about their security.”

Biden, when pressed on the point laughed and shouted “That’s malarky - I didn’t even know we had an ambassador in Libya!”


16 posted on 10/15/2012 11:22:48 PM PDT by 21twelve (So I [God] gave them over to their stubborn hearts to follow their own devices. Psalm 81:12)
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To: MikeSteelBe

I think some people’s feet are oging to have to be held to the fire by we the people on this.

Our government is playing dangerous and deadly games with enemies of our who are not ****ing around at all.

This is extremly serious, there are bastards in the white house, Mike, I mean real evil, dangerous, deadly, stupid bastards.


17 posted on 10/15/2012 11:55:40 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
...who told susan rice to LIE…that is the question NO ONE has the cajones to ask her or anyone in this administration...

She's not being asked because the press doesn't want to know the answer.

18 posted on 10/16/2012 12:13:03 AM PDT by GOPJ (Candy picks ALL questions to ask from the hundreds submitted - Citizens are stage props.)
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To: chris37

“This is extremly serious, there are bastards in the white house, Mike, I mean real evil, dangerous, deadly, stupid bastards.”

I totally agree. The media made sure the white trash in the white house in the 90s skated for their crimes.

A media enabled the holocaust (see my tagline).

After Vince Foster, Whitewater, Waco, Fast & Furious, ect., It’s just not easy to really expect our government to hold itself accountable by legal due process anymore.


19 posted on 10/16/2012 12:18:46 AM PDT by MikeSteelBe (Austrian Hitler was, as the Halfrican Hitler does.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
...and their solution was to do NOTHING...

Unbelievable.

           

Empty Chairs in the Situation Room - throughout the 'situation'.


20 posted on 10/16/2012 1:08:50 AM PDT by Bon mots (Abu Ghraib: 47 Times on the front page of the NY Times | Benghazi: 2 Times)
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To: arrogantsob; Ernest_at_the_Beach
Do you believe, as some here do, that this was a kidnapping scheme which got out of hand?

See what Lame Cherry has to say -- pretty scathing.

21 posted on 10/16/2012 1:27:02 AM PDT by thecodont
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To: Bon mots

Nice work there Bon mots.


22 posted on 10/16/2012 7:51:33 AM PDT by GOPJ (Candy picks ALL questions to ask from the hundreds submitted - Citizens are stage props.)
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To: chris37

I am guessing you have not been thru the long thread from Sat night discussing Col Hunt’s interview ....see if I can find it.


23 posted on 10/16/2012 8:08:40 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Col. Hunt on the Newest Libyan Revelations (huge coverup!)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2944272/posts

see Post #14:

“For six hours the entire military, intelligence, diplomatic and civil command structure of the United States government watched, in real time, as our consulate in Benghazi was under attack, while our ambassador and his hobbled security died.

That command structure did nothing. Afterward, they lied outright to cover-up their own culpability for political reasons. An intelligence failure, under the circumstances, was impossible.”

This thread has links to Benghazi threads for cross reference:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2944345/posts


24 posted on 10/16/2012 8:21:50 AM PDT by nanetteclaret (Unreconstructed Catholic Texan)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Oh yes, I had heard Col. Hunt’s interview on the Carr show on Sunday I think it was.

You know I’m reallt at a loss at this point as to what to do.

If congress refuses to perform its function and impeach and convict this criminal president, then I am ready for the marines to go in and get him out of there.

This man is dangerous. I would not be surprised at all if he purposely starts wwIII on purpose in thenext couple of months.


25 posted on 10/16/2012 8:24:40 AM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
BHO took off for Vegas on the 12th. That is going to be something the WH simply cannot hide. Is Clinton going to take the full heat regarding her not supposedly informing the White House prior to his Vegas flight.
I have watched parts of the 4 hour hearing about four times since it came out. For anyone still not having the opportunity to watch it, it can be found here.

I'm quite aware of the stuff Colonel Hunt suggested is standard operational procedures, such as the WH would have people viewing the same stuff by feed, as Lamb and other's watched in real time.

26 posted on 10/16/2012 8:33:25 AM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned.)
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To: Marine_Uncle; chris37; NormsRevenge; TigersEye
What Hunt said ....multiple Situation Rooms monitoring situation has not come up in the media I have been watching....WJY NOT?

Any ideas?

27 posted on 10/16/2012 9:33:17 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Bon mots

Nice Work!


28 posted on 10/16/2012 9:37:16 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

As far as I know, it only came up on Rush’s show yesterday via a well informed caller.

He mentioned the interview and described exactly this.

Rush’s only theory was that such systems must not have been enabled yet since the embassy was relatively new. the man said not according to Col. Hunt.

Rush responded that if that is true, then, paraphrasing here, there is nothing good in this at all.

This is why I thought that Rudy Gulianni saying that this embassy had been attacked twice previously dispells any possibility that security system were not activated, they knew this location was a target.

Why isn’t this being openly dicucssed? Because our traitor president his having his ass covered again by the media, by our congress, by our intelligence agencies, everyone.

Ernest, I think we have a dangerous, dangerous man in the white house, and I think that it is very possible that we are going to pay a high price for this folly.


29 posted on 10/16/2012 9:40:37 AM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
"Any ideas?".
Only the possibility Col. Hunt was not totally accurate in his descriptions regarding how the various parts of gov. could simply switch to "channel 47", and all receive real time communications.
Either that or they are all still horrified at what they are going to have to start reporting. Damage control is going to be near impossible on this issue by all looks of things.
30 posted on 10/16/2012 9:43:08 AM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned.)
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To: chris37
Shorter thread :

Just Who DID answer the 3:00AM Call?

31 posted on 10/16/2012 9:48:25 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: nanetteclaret

Thanks...very much.


32 posted on 10/16/2012 9:50:14 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: chris37; RummyChick; Marine_Uncle; TigersEye; Bon mots; nanetteclaret; GOPJ; thecodont; ...
just came across this thread ... posted Sun ....

What Happened In Benghazi( Shot across the Bow from State)

From Powerline blog.

***********************************EXCERPT*****************************************

Posted on Sun 14 Oct 2012 06:21:27 PDT by RummyChick

The State Department has released a transcript of a briefing that two high-ranking department officials gave to a number of reporters via conference call on October 9 (Tuesday). I am not certain about this, but I believe the transcript was only made public today. You should read it in its entirety; it is the most detailed description I have seen of the events in Benghazi on September 11.

33 posted on 10/16/2012 10:19:00 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
...has not come up in the media I have been watching....WJY NOT? Any ideas?

The Media will not report the truth!

Pat Caddell slams the media: They have become an “enemy of the people” (video 26:00)

Pat Caddell called it. Do you believe it yet?

34 posted on 10/16/2012 10:57:01 AM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Hildabeast must be beyond herself at this point. The Libyan's screwed her big time. A special operation going terribly wrong.
Notice we hear nothing about the military and CIA's involvement in this. The lid so far has been keep closed as to who was doing what. We are getting a lot of peripheral little things.
This whole affair revolves around a joint operation by the CIA and the Military. A lot of things will never be brought out, due to the nature of the mess. The Senate and House hearings in closed sessions will be given perhaps a clear view as to what went down.
Books will be written in due time by some.
I don't expect to know the details on the operation that was taking place for some time. It will be years before the first book emerges from the dark room.
35 posted on 10/16/2012 10:57:25 AM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned.)
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To: Marine_Uncle; Ernest_at_the_Beach
I find it hard to believe that the Pres., VP, Sec. State, Pentagon and CIA would not be immediately notified of an ongoing attack on an embassy or consulate. I was thinking that before I heard Col. Hunt's statements. We more than have the technology for it. Even in the days when a sat-phone was the best tech available I would expect that.

It's an international incident of the highest order. Even the administration characterizes it as the worst attack of its kind in over 30 years. That's one thing I will agree with them on.

36 posted on 10/16/2012 11:07:45 AM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Thanks, The Disaster is dead meat.


37 posted on 10/16/2012 11:15:39 AM PDT by arrogantsob (The Disaster MUST Go. Sarah herself supports Romney.)
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To: TigersEye
The CIA did not have to be informed. They where involved in the whole thing from day one.
Let no one forget, that the Ambassador was not at that annex on official State House duties.
He was involved via. State Department part in a CIA operation with of course the backing of certain US military ops in the African Command to take hold of all the missing manpads.

At best. We are seeing some fringe reporting on things peripheral to what was really going down.
38 posted on 10/16/2012 11:21:49 AM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned.)
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To: Marine_Uncle

The ambassador never made it to the “annex.” He died of smoke inhalation at the main consulate building FWIW. I don’t know what all his business was but he had a regular day of seeing foreign diplomats on Sept. 11th. The last one was a Turkish diplomat who left about 20-30 minutes before the shooting started.


39 posted on 10/16/2012 11:37:38 AM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: GOPJ
Thx!
There's another version too...


40 posted on 10/16/2012 11:43:41 AM PDT by Bon mots (Abu Ghraib: 47 Times on the front page of the NY Times | Benghazi: 2 Times)
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To: TigersEye

Good enough correction on your part.


41 posted on 10/16/2012 11:44:37 AM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned.)
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To: Marine_Uncle
I don't think the question is "what was the ambassador doing in Benghazi?" or "what was the CIA doing in Benghazi?" They were doing their jobs with the resources they were given. I expect the CIA operates out of every embassy and consulate and has some coordination with the ambassador and his staff in each of them.

The only relevant questions in my mind are "why weren't they given adequate protection?" and "why has 0bama and his administration tried to coverup the fact that this was a terrorist attack with the "video did it" hoax?

John Bolton provides some clarity on who has responsibility for foreign policy.

Bolton Sounds Off on the Congressional Hearing in the Benghazi Terror Attack

42 posted on 10/16/2012 12:21:49 PM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: Bon mots
I really like the jiggling phone....ROFL!

Sums thinks up nicely!

43 posted on 10/16/2012 1:41:51 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: TigersEye; Marine_Uncle
A question just popped into my fevered brow.....

Why was the Turkish Ambassodor in such a dangerous place?

44 posted on 10/16/2012 1:44:31 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I kind of wondered that myself. It’s probably not as dangerous for him as it is for an American.


45 posted on 10/16/2012 1:51:02 PM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: TigersEye
Yeah that would be true but why wouldn't he have preferred to meet him in Tripoli where the accommodations would have been more comfortable for a man of his stature....

Perhaps he had other business in Benghazi....wonder what it might of been?

46 posted on 10/16/2012 2:03:14 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: TigersEye
The point I tried to make rather poorly, is that things went wrong during an operation. The US personnel where caught in a tough situation. We know parts of the results.
I have the same desire to see the Kenyan and his goons, as well as Clinton all get fried. I was not trying to diminish the goals of the investigations now being performed.
Perhaps this time, they will not get off so easy as they did regarding the murder of boarder patrol Brian Terry, in the botched F&F scandal.
47 posted on 10/16/2012 2:15:11 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
"Why was the Turkish Ambassodor in such a dangerous place?"
Certainly not for "official diplomatic purposes", or he would have went to the US Embassy in Tripoli. We are dealing with another Black Hawk down syndrome. Operations went not according to plan.
48 posted on 10/16/2012 2:21:00 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned.)
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To: Marine_Uncle
Perhaps this time, they will not get off so easy as they did regarding the murder of boarder patrol Brian Terry, in the botched F&F scandal.

I'd like to believe that will happen. I'm afraid the press will continue to cover for him though. Stevens and the others are just collateral damage in the Forward march of the Progressive Movement.

49 posted on 10/16/2012 2:22:27 PM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; mickie; flaglady47
The leaks are really starting to come out now, thanks to Hillary's and Biden's "putting the blame on Mame" (intelligence agencies being 'Mame').

Their stupid and feeble attempts at covering-up, lying, deliberately sowing confusion, shifting culpability and protecting their Lord and Master in the White House is paying big dividends to us, the supposed dummies in what they view as the lumpen masses.

Thanks to these fumbling Boobsie Twins, heretofore hidden facts are tumbling out to the public like little fruits and tiny pumpkins spilling out of a Thanksgiving cornucopia centerpiece.

Mmm, mmm, mmm......

Leni

50 posted on 10/16/2012 2:31:18 PM PDT by MinuteGal
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