Skip to comments.State Depít suspected in April that Libyan guards at Benghazi consulate had tried to attack it
Posted on 10/15/2012 10:09:04 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
Time for your daily reminder that State didnt merely stick Chris Stevens with average security despite him living and working in one of the jihadi-est places on earth. The security they provided him was actively, inexplicably, inexcusably bad. And before you read any further, let me remind you that the ominous chat-room message posted by Sean Smith the day he died about a Libyan guard taking photos of the compound still hasnt been addressed by anyone in the government that Ive seen. Did Stevenss security break down to the point that his killers actually had someone on the inside?
More red flags from Reuters:
State Department officials suspected that two Libyan guards hired by its own security contractor were behind an April incident in which a homemade bomb was hurled over the wall of the special mission in Benghazi, according to official emails obtained by Reuters
The April attack illustrated concerns among some U.S. officials in Libya that hiring local residents for embassy guard duties could in itself raise security issues.
The emails identified one of the suspects in that incident as a former employee of Blue Mountain Group who had been fired four days earlier for vandalism, and said the other was still working for the company. Both were unarmed guards who performed routine security tasks, such as screening visitors.
Both suspects were ultimately released after being interrogated by the local police, a.k.a. the February 17 Martyrs Brigade, which was partly responsible for providing security for the consulate and whose members were last seen hiding on the roof during the attack because they werent ready for it. No word on whether either of them was still working for Blue Mountain on 9/11, but that brings us to another unanswered question. Why did State hire Blue Mountain, an inexperienced firm, in the first place?
Other firms in the security industry expressed surprise that Blue Mountain had won a large, high profile contract from the US government. One industry executive said the level of service Blue Mountain provided did not appear adequate to the risks presented by a lawless city.
We have visited the consulate in Benghazi a number of times and have an excellent relationship with the Americans. Our assessment was the unarmed Libyan guards were extremely poor calibre, said one security source. The Libyan Ministry of Interior are generally not happy with Blue Mountain and had them on their close observation/target list.
The New York Times last week reported that major security firms with a track record of guarding US premises elsewhere had made approaches to undertake work in Libya but were rebuffed.
We went in to make a pitch, and nothing happened, a security firm official told the newspaper.
Blue Mountain had six employees on the scene, five Libyans and one British supervisor recruited from the celebrity bodyguard circuit. Security was sufficiently weak that BMs local affiliate, Blue Mountain Libya, complained to its parent company this past summer that the resources they were being given werent enough. State was asked to intervene in the dispute between the two but chose to do nothing. So it came to be that the U.S. ambassador ended up on 9/11 at a consulate that was vulnerable even according to its own security detail, and which State had had ample opportunity to fortify. Meanwhile, on the same day, the U.S. embassy in Barbados enjoyed protection from a detail of Marines. Smart power, 2012.
Just as Os interest in an easy intervention in Libya made a difficult intervention in Syria more difficult, States decision to half-ass security for the Benghazi consulate has created a new, bigger security headache for the White House in Libya. Namely, how hard do they hit the local jihadis in reprisal? The Libyan government doesnt want to approve an attack lest it be seen as a U.S. stooge at a moment when its trying to build legitimacy, and the U.S. doesnt want to raise the profile of a group like Ansar al-Sharia by making it the Great Satans new enemy number one. There is a compromise solution, but of course its not ready yet. If only State had thought of this before letting a smile be Chris Stevens umbrella against the mujahedeen.
More nitty gritty ....
According to what I heard Rudy Gulliani say on Greta tonight, this same embassy had already been attacked 2 times prior to the September attack.
I thought to myself that if this is the case that would rule out any possibility that any security sytem or video link described by Col. Hunt was not yet activated.
Every day a bit more comes out, and every day barack Obama looks more like a dirty rat.
I think this situation has reached critical mass.
Do you believe, as some here do, that this was a kidnapping scheme which got out of hand?
"We jest had no ideer there was any danger 'round there. Seemed peaceful 'nuf to us." - Hillary and the Statios
And I think a drone with camera showed up an hour after the attack started.
She looked absolutely awful at the ISSA hearing.
You can find that by clicking the libya keyword ...in case you didn't know that.
I’m past the point of starting to believe that.. The FBI delaying their investigation for the purpose of ensuring the scene would be compromised is a huge red flag.
Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said the bucks stops with her when it comes to who is blame for a deadly assault on the U.S. diplomatic mission in Benghazi.
I take responsibility for what happened on September 11, Clinton said in an interview with CNNs Elise Labott soon after arriving in Lima, Peru for a visit. The interview, one of a series given to U.S. television networks Monday night, were the first she has given about the attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi.
Clinton insisted President Barack Obama and Vice President Joe Biden are not involved in security decisions, Clinton said.
Look whos, ahem, wearing the blue dress now?
TXUS on October 15, 2012 at 8:55 PM
Oh man...if that is the case about the drone with a camera showing up...there’s going to be some big geese cooked on this.
And if in fact there is a tape...it begs the question, why was no action taken to save the victims in there?
This goes so far beyond Watergate...this even goes beyond the fiction of Absolute Power. This is HUGE!
who told susan rice to LIE that is the question NO ONE has the cajones to ask her or anyone in this administration
cmsinaz on October 15, 2012 at 8:07 PM
KOOLAID2 on October 15, 2012 at 8:57 PM
“I think this situation has reached critical mass.”
You are right.
And, just like “Fast and Furious”, some underlings will be reassigned or resign.
No one at the top will be held accountable for the deaths of the Americans they are responsible for.
The media and Congress will guarantee that travesty of justice.
One of 0bama’s favorite tactics is to pile lies on top of more lies so that no one can figure out what the hell REALLY happened. ‘Fast & Furious’ comes to mind..
“Insisted President Barack Obama and Vice President Joe Biden are not involved in security decisions...”
Obama stated “She’s right - I couldn’t care less about their security.”
Biden, when pressed on the point laughed and shouted “That’s malarky - I didn’t even know we had an ambassador in Libya!”
I think some people’s feet are oging to have to be held to the fire by we the people on this.
Our government is playing dangerous and deadly games with enemies of our who are not ****ing around at all.
This is extremly serious, there are bastards in the white house, Mike, I mean real evil, dangerous, deadly, stupid bastards.
She's not being asked because the press doesn't want to know the answer.
“This is extremly serious, there are bastards in the white house, Mike, I mean real evil, dangerous, deadly, stupid bastards.”
I totally agree. The media made sure the white trash in the white house in the 90s skated for their crimes.
A media enabled the holocaust (see my tagline).
After Vince Foster, Whitewater, Waco, Fast & Furious, ect., It’s just not easy to really expect our government to hold itself accountable by legal due process anymore.
See what Lame Cherry has to say -- pretty scathing.
Nice work there Bon mots.
I am guessing you have not been thru the long thread from Sat night discussing Col Hunt’s interview ....see if I can find it.
Col. Hunt on the Newest Libyan Revelations (huge coverup!)
see Post #14:
For six hours the entire military, intelligence, diplomatic and civil command structure of the United States government watched, in real time, as our consulate in Benghazi was under attack, while our ambassador and his hobbled security died.
That command structure did nothing. Afterward, they lied outright to cover-up their own culpability for political reasons. An intelligence failure, under the circumstances, was impossible.
This thread has links to Benghazi threads for cross reference:
Oh yes, I had heard Col. Hunt’s interview on the Carr show on Sunday I think it was.
You know I’m reallt at a loss at this point as to what to do.
If congress refuses to perform its function and impeach and convict this criminal president, then I am ready for the marines to go in and get him out of there.
This man is dangerous. I would not be surprised at all if he purposely starts wwIII on purpose in thenext couple of months.
As far as I know, it only came up on Rush’s show yesterday via a well informed caller.
He mentioned the interview and described exactly this.
Rush’s only theory was that such systems must not have been enabled yet since the embassy was relatively new. the man said not according to Col. Hunt.
Rush responded that if that is true, then, paraphrasing here, there is nothing good in this at all.
This is why I thought that Rudy Gulianni saying that this embassy had been attacked twice previously dispells any possibility that security system were not activated, they knew this location was a target.
Why isn’t this being openly dicucssed? Because our traitor president his having his ass covered again by the media, by our congress, by our intelligence agencies, everyone.
Ernest, I think we have a dangerous, dangerous man in the white house, and I think that it is very possible that we are going to pay a high price for this folly.
From Powerline blog.
Posted on Sun 14 Oct 2012 06:21:27 PDT by RummyChick
The State Department has released a transcript of a briefing that two high-ranking department officials gave to a number of reporters via conference call on October 9 (Tuesday). I am not certain about this, but I believe the transcript was only made public today. You should read it in its entirety; it is the most detailed description I have seen of the events in Benghazi on September 11.
It's an international incident of the highest order. Even the administration characterizes it as the worst attack of its kind in over 30 years. That's one thing I will agree with them on.
Thanks, The Disaster is dead meat.
The ambassador never made it to the “annex.” He died of smoke inhalation at the main consulate building FWIW. I don’t know what all his business was but he had a regular day of seeing foreign diplomats on Sept. 11th. The last one was a Turkish diplomat who left about 20-30 minutes before the shooting started.
Good enough correction on your part.
The only relevant questions in my mind are "why weren't they given adequate protection?" and "why has 0bama and his administration tried to coverup the fact that this was a terrorist attack with the "video did it" hoax?
Sums thinks up nicely!
Why was the Turkish Ambassodor in such a dangerous place?
I kind of wondered that myself. It’s probably not as dangerous for him as it is for an American.
Perhaps he had other business in Benghazi....wonder what it might of been?
I'd like to believe that will happen. I'm afraid the press will continue to cover for him though. Stevens and the others are just collateral damage in the Forward march of the Progressive Movement.
Their stupid and feeble attempts at covering-up, lying, deliberately sowing confusion, shifting culpability and protecting their Lord and Master in the White House is paying big dividends to us, the supposed dummies in what they view as the lumpen masses.
Thanks to these fumbling Boobsie Twins, heretofore hidden facts are tumbling out to the public like little fruits and tiny pumpkins spilling out of a Thanksgiving cornucopia centerpiece.
Mmm, mmm, mmm......