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Why Obama is likely to blow the second debate too
Hot Air ^ | OCTOBER 15, 2012 | J.E. DYER

Posted on 10/16/2012 12:05:01 AM PDT by kingattax

The short answer is: because he’s got nothing.

There is no record to run on, no argument to make for four more years. The ideology that drives him is outdated and bankrupt.

He has, in fact, implemented his policies – Republicans have had little means of stopping him – and those policies are the problem.

But there’s a slightly longer answer too.

Obama’s advisors will read the mainstream media assessment of the vice-presidential debate – they actually think a debate that turned women across America off of Biden was a draw, or a Biden win – and conclude that what the president needs to do is find his inner Joe Biden.

Appeal to his base by going on the attack, perhaps interrupting, being visibly annoyed at the trend of Romney’s statements, and vigorously asserting untruths in the interest of racking up effective soundbites.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012debates
its pretty dang sad when youre told you have to "be like joe biden" to try to win a debate.
1 posted on 10/16/2012 12:05:10 AM PDT by kingattax
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To: kingattax

He’ll lose beacuse he’s not the one that’s been calling the shots over the past 4 years. He’s about the biggest waste of oxygen on earth.


2 posted on 10/16/2012 12:15:46 AM PDT by albie ("Work as if you were to live a hundred years. Pray as if you were to die tomorrow." Benjamin Frankli)
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To: kingattax

I’m thinkin’ Michelle ordered Obama to lose the debates because she is already in that primo home in Hawaii that the Pritzker’s are arranging for them....Hey, permanent vacation, YO!


3 posted on 10/16/2012 12:17:10 AM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: kingattax
It's a Hawaii... state of mind...


4 posted on 10/16/2012 12:20:59 AM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: albie

Who is Obama’s Dick Cheney?


5 posted on 10/16/2012 12:21:04 AM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: kingattax

Let’s go in expecting Obama to put up a fight and be prepared to put up a fight as well. No let up until O is O U T


6 posted on 10/16/2012 12:22:12 AM PDT by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: gleeaikin

Axelrod, Jarrett, Moochele


7 posted on 10/16/2012 12:22:33 AM PDT by albie ("Work as if you were to live a hundred years. Pray as if you were to die tomorrow." Benjamin Frankli)
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To: antceecee

“I’m thinkin’ Michelle ordered Obama to lose the debates”

Nope. Because Odumbo is simply an imbecile. The reason why he “won” the debates in 08’ was because he had a script to follow and said the hopeychangey crap over and over again. The MSM ate it up.


8 posted on 10/16/2012 12:28:21 AM PDT by max americana (Make the world a better place by punching a liberal in the face)
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To: kingattax; IMissPresidentReagan
its pretty dang sad when you're told you have
to "be like joe biden" to try to win a debate.
true..but then; as noted, he has nothing....
(only a cardboard image of himself...and his emotional insecurities)
thought you would like this, IMPR

9 posted on 10/16/2012 12:29:10 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (WA DC E$tabli$hment; DNC/RNC/Unionists...Brazilian saying: "$@me Old $hit; w/ different flie$" :^)
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To: kingattax

And all the little morons that voted for him the first time are going to have better things to do come Nov 6th while all patriotic Americans will do their best to restore some order.

I’m like most here and don’t look forward to a willard presidency, but the choice for me couldn’t be more clear. We absolutely must get rid of Barry and the Moocher.


10 posted on 10/16/2012 12:34:20 AM PDT by Bullish (The stink from this amateur regime smells all the way to Kenya.)
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To: kingattax

“Why Obama is likely to blow the second debate too.”

“Oh wow man, did someone say ‘blow’?”. Although one would think that Barry would have learned his lesson after the first debate!


11 posted on 10/16/2012 12:34:57 AM PDT by 21twelve (So I [God] gave them over to their stubborn hearts to follow their own devices. Psalm 81:12)
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To: max americana
The reason why he “won” the debates in 08’ was because he had a script to follow and said the hopeychangey crap over and over again.

He was also debating a worthless candidate who was afraid to challenge him.

12 posted on 10/16/2012 12:39:13 AM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA; Ignorance on parade.)
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To: kingattax
Zen Koan for today. Most of us have heard of the Koan," Imagine the sound of one hand clapping."

Todays Koan...

Imagine the sound of Obama speaking to an empty chair...


13 posted on 10/16/2012 12:40:06 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Cronos

Let’s not be too confident that this debate will go for Romney.
Candy Crowley will pull out any dirty trick to bolster Zer0.


14 posted on 10/16/2012 12:42:35 AM PDT by ChiMark (chewed up his body for a decade)
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To: kingattax

We can hope President Romney will cancel all of so far 938 executive orders that Obama has signed.


15 posted on 10/16/2012 12:57:21 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: kingattax

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2945363/posts


16 posted on 10/16/2012 1:10:22 AM PDT by expat1000
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To: kingattax
Obama’s advisors will read the mainstream media assessment of the vice-presidential debate – they actually think a debate that turned women across America off of Biden was a draw, or a Biden win

I don't believe lefties actually think or believe most of what they say. They just spin things in a way that they hope large numbers of people will believe and support.

17 posted on 10/16/2012 1:21:40 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: freekitty
We can hope President Romney will cancel all of so far 938 executive orders that Obama has signed.

Hope for change.....yeah....that's the ticket.

Yes, I want Zer0 gone.
No, I don't have such high expectations of Romney.

18 posted on 10/16/2012 1:58:45 AM PDT by Roccus
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To: kingattax
As Britt Hume predicts, we'll see a lot of empathy for the questions but little substance.

For the Libs, that's all they need. For the Conservatives, it's proof of the empty suit.

For the six people who are still uncommitted, who knows?

19 posted on 10/16/2012 2:54:36 AM PDT by Makana
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To: albie
Axelrod, Jarrett, Moochele
Yup.
20 posted on 10/16/2012 3:04:53 AM PDT by samtheman (Obama. Mugabe. Chavez. (Obamugavez))
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To: gleeaikin

“Who is Obama’s Dick Cheney?”

I know what you’re getting at. You suggest that GWB was not his own man in the WH. That although Cheney was an extremely effective VP, he was the one pulling the strings in the manipulation of the POTUS.

The notion that Obama dances like a puppet on a string is not nearly as far-fetched as is the working relationship between Bush and Cheney.

Comparing the two administrations that way is like comparing apples to oranges or beef and pork to fruit and vegetables.


21 posted on 10/16/2012 3:05:17 AM PDT by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: max americana
Odumbo is simply an imbecile. The reason why he “won” the debates in 08’ was because he had a script to follow and said the hopeychangey crap over and over again. The MSM ate it up.
Don't forget the role played by the other imbecile, McCain.

In 2008 we didn't have a campaign, we had a morality play, with Obama playing the role of the Olympian God, Palin (against her will) cast in the role (by the McCain camp) as the evil villain, and McCain himself playing the court jester... while all along the steady blather of the Greek chorus media interpreted the action for the audience.

22 posted on 10/16/2012 3:10:09 AM PDT by samtheman (Obama. Mugabe. Chavez. (Obamugavez))
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To: kingattax

Because he likes to blow?


23 posted on 10/16/2012 4:13:45 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages, start today.)
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To: Bullish

We also need to prepare for the start of the MSM drumbeat of “get Romney”, the same steady drumbeat that culminated in the election of the empty suit in 2008. - Also, the stuff Obama’s put in place has resulted in a horrible, horrible situation on EVERY front, not the least of which is national security and foreign policy. . also the malignancies Obama’s installed in government via his commie buds.


24 posted on 10/16/2012 4:49:19 AM PDT by Twinkie (HUSSEIN OBAMA GOTTA GO!!!)
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To: kingattax

Don’t be overconfident. RATS have a talent for making s**t look like sirloin. They are experts at deception and distortion. I would also expect BO will go on the attack early trying to throw Mitt off his game and put him on the defensive.


25 posted on 10/16/2012 4:54:57 AM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (We won't stand for biased umps fixing a ball game but we allow a biased media to fix elections.)
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To: kingattax
That is sad but this is the "town hall" debate.

Candy Crowley will be advocating for Obama, the hand-picked crowd will be seeded with "undecided" voters who will ask about Romney's taxes, 47%, the 'war on women', gays, etc.

Romney can't win tonight but he can look good under fire and that's really all he needs.

26 posted on 10/16/2012 4:55:15 AM PDT by newzjunkey (Osama's dead... and so is our ambassador - Coulter.)
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To: kingattax

“The short answer is: because he’s got nothing”

He will toss out lies to the public that will go unchallenged by the moderator and, later, the press. The uninformed voters will swallow him hook, line and sinker. There is no way that any moderator from here on out will let him look bad.


27 posted on 10/16/2012 5:06:33 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: All

He’s been graded on a curve his whole life but there is no reason to doubt he will be prepared to take the make-up exam especially since he got the questions from the proctor in advance.


28 posted on 10/16/2012 5:08:47 AM PDT by newnhdad (Where will you be during the Election Riots of 2012/2013?)
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To: kingattax

It should be fun watching Obama try to bully Romney. Can he do it without breaking out his rabble-rouser persona? Can he do it without his teleprompter? ...Prepping for this debate is the hardest work Obama has done since becoming president.


29 posted on 10/16/2012 5:10:35 AM PDT by pallis
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To: antceecee

She probably doesn’t care all that much about whether he’s with her there or not.


30 posted on 10/16/2012 5:12:47 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Cronos

Obama has had the questions for days, now, assuming his people didn’t actually write the questions. The moderator is on his side, so he has the “referee” playing for him. The “undecided” voters selected by CNN will be on his side, so Obama is playing on his home court.

Mitt better be on his best game tonight.


31 posted on 10/16/2012 5:43:46 AM PDT by Little Ray (AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: antceecee
I’m thinkin’ Michelle ordered Obama to lose the debates because she is already in that primo home in Hawaii that the Pritzker’s are arranging for them....Hey, permanent vacation, YO!

Nice to see he's preparing for "de facto" exile once he's ousted.

32 posted on 10/16/2012 5:44:11 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: okie01

Bingo.

Our VP candidate last time was awesome, but our presidential candidate was old, uninspired and a quitter.

Romney is a fighter.


33 posted on 10/16/2012 5:53:55 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (America doesn't need any new laws. America needs freedom!)
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To: kingattax

Obama is done....

The first debate allowed the electorate to see what they needed to see, and that was that Romney is not WORSE than the guy they want to replace.

That’s it. Every ounce of data I’ve seen has showed the electorate wanted OBAMA gone since before the primaries... all they needed to know is the guy they were going to replace him with wasn’t worse than him. For an entire year Obama and his minions have been trying to paint Romney as some extreme dangerous crazy person, spending hundreds of millions in the process.

THe first debate Romney finally was able to be seen by most of the electorate without the lense or filter of that propaganda campaign or through media spin. In those 90 minutes they saw that Romney was none of those things, and that Obama was not the “great” politician that an even larger propoganda campaign and complicite press hand been saying he was for nearly 5 years.

THere is no way Obama can put the genie back in the bottle, he’s done.

I know the press is going to spin whatever happens tonight as an Obama win, because they want him to win, and they want to write that “comeback story” regardless of what the facts are, but it isn’t going to happen. Romney would have to completely collapse for any loss of momentum he’s gained to shift.

If Obama is going to go crazy joe and just attack, He’ll fall even further in the pools. If Obama thinks attacking on Bain is going to move any needles he missed the months and 100 Million plus spent by his side that made NO DIFFERENCE with those ads. The 47% comment did gain some traction, though fired up the base more than swayed many middle voters.

Obama does these things all he’s going to do is rally the people who were already planning to vote for him anyway, it won’t shift the fundamentals of the race.

If you are pandering to your base 3 weeks form election night, you are done... you are not only going to lose you are going to lose big.

HEre’s the reality, Obama is a TERRIBLE debater, PERIOD, always was. Romney can and will hold his own, even though I am sure the crowd will be stacked with leftist and loaded questions. Romney however will not crack under the pressure, he’ll do fine.

I do have no doubt Obama will likely not do as badly in this debate as the last one, and any improvement at all will be spun by the press as an improvement and a comeback, because that’s what they do... but this race was over before it started.

Very idea this race was close was nothing but propaganda from day one.

Obama will not get over 42-43% of the popular vote on election day, AT BEST! And it is very possible he could get far less.

Inherent truths about the debate:

1) fewer people will watch

2) audience will be stacked against Romney and questions will be loaded

3) Obama will show for thos paying attention his best really isn’t that good

4) Romney will hold his own

5) Press will try to spin Obama’s mediocre but highly improved performance since the last debate as a win and comeback for Obama

6) Nothing will change fundamentally in the race, R/R ticket will continue its momentum.

End of day 4 years of Miserable failure and 15%+ of real unemployment cannot be spun or charmed away... A teleprompter and an arrogant attitude are no substitute for a plan and hard work.


34 posted on 10/16/2012 6:03:11 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: kingattax
find his inner Joe Biden.

Ugh, talk about ugly goes straight to the bone!

35 posted on 10/16/2012 7:35:03 AM PDT by mombonn (God is looking for spiritual fruit, not religious nuts.)
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To: kingattax
He'll have Candy picking the questions. He'll have the media saying he won, no matter what happens short of him passing out drunk in the middle of the debate.

His campaign has always been a negative one--to get voters not to vote for Romney. Maybe in the townhall format he will avoid calling Romney a liar to his face and will just blame all the problems on the Republicans in general rather than on Romney in particular.

36 posted on 10/16/2012 8:12:34 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: newnhdad
"... especially since he got the questions from the proctor in advance"

Yeah, that's how I figure it.

Plus a lot of "my mother has bad breath; what can the gov. do for usssssssssssss??"

37 posted on 10/16/2012 8:13:23 AM PDT by Pietro
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To: kingattax
Obama's got Candy Crawley on his side. He's got the CNN camera crew that will capture every uncomfortable Romney expression - and highlight Obama's better moments. He's got the CNN production staff to back up the cameramen. It'll be team effort - or Chicago type gang effort - depending how how bias is seen....

Don't underestimate the power of a liberal like Candy being able to sift through hundreds of questions to find the perfect 20 that make her guy look good. The commission was kind enough to give us an old liberal, a rude liberal and a fat liberal - their idea of 'diversity' of moderators.

38 posted on 10/16/2012 8:46:39 AM PDT by GOPJ (Candy picks ALL questions to ask from the hundreds submitted - Citizens are stage props.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
Our VP candidate last time was awesome, but our presidential candidate was old, uninspired and a quitter.

Romney wasn't my first choice -- not by a long shot -- but, if I could vote for McCain in 2008, it's a comparative delight to vote for Romney in 2012.

As a potential president, I described McCain as a "disaster" -- which was, admittedly, preferable to Obama's "catastrophe".

Now working on my 13th Presidential election and McCain's was the most difficult vote I've ever cast...

39 posted on 10/16/2012 9:16:41 AM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA; Ignorance on parade.)
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To: pallis
....Can he do it without his teleprompter? ...Prepping for this debate is the hardest work Obama has done since becoming president.

The won won't have his trusty teleprompter and stutter just like the first debate. I LOL'ed at the last part of your reply.

40 posted on 10/16/2012 9:20:15 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 ("It's better to vote for a Republican you don't know than wind up with a dim you don't like".)
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To: Twinkie

I completely agree with your take.


41 posted on 10/16/2012 5:54:57 PM PDT by Bullish (The stink from this amateur regime smells all the way to Kenya.)
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