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A More Aggressive Obama Still Won't Make the Grade
Townhall.com ^ | October 16, 2012 | David Limbaugh

Posted on 10/16/2012 4:00:58 AM PDT by Kaslin

As he prepares for the second debate, Obama faces a major dilemma:

how to be more aggressive without jeopardizing his alleged likability, the main thing he supposedly has going for him with voters.

The Barack Obama the public usually sees is not the real Barack Obama. The former is a carefully manufactured media image designed to appear eminently reasonable, highly engaged, ultra-caring, inordinately intelligent and as one who transcends the pettiness that plagues so many politicians. The real Obama is none of those things.

These things wouldn't matter as much if the liberal media hadn't insulated Obama from scrutiny and covered over his policy failures, his ideological extremism and his corruption. They've allowed the fable of his extraordinary gifts to remain largely unchallenged.

The media haven't even complained on behalf of their own interests

-- about Obama's infrequent news conferences or the tight control he exercises and careful scripting he employs when he does deign to meet with them.

That's one explanation for the pronounced disconnect between Obama's likability and the unpopularity of his policies. If the press weren't always sheltering him and spinning the news in his favor, it would be a wholly different ballgame.

But having hidden behind this shield, Obama exposes himself to severe injury when it is removed, which is precisely what happened in the first debate, as reflected in his sustained drop in the polls after it.

Much of Obama's support was soft because it was based on false images. Stripped of media protection during the debate, his profound weaknesses were exposed for 70 million to see, and there's no going back.

Unhappily for Obama, Americans also saw the real Mitt Romney, who is a far cry from the demon depicted by Team Obama.

If Obama is more aggressive, he runs the risk of appearing obnoxious and shattering the myth of his likability, not to mention that Mitt will be ready for this ploy.

Though it is true that Obama is not Joe Biden, he has shown himself quite capable of being condescending, petulant and downright nasty, as we witnessed in his treatment of John McCain and Paul Ryan.

Granted, moderator Jim Lehrer was mostly passive and Romney was effective at controlling the debate and making sure it was essentially an unfiltered contest between him and Obama -- the way it should have been.

And there's no doubt the atmosphere of the second debate will be much different. Town hall formats usually play to liberals' and demagogues' advantage, with fawning audiences applauding every nod toward socialism. Not only that, but moderator Candy Crowley has indicated that she plans on being proactive, despite an agreement between the two campaigns that she is to have a neutral role.

Though Mitt will have his work cut out for him, too, I view him as the odds-on favorite to prevail again.

As a debate opponent, Obama is made to order for Mitt. Obama is very weak on policy details -- a weakness based on years of promoting the "big ideas" and leaving the unglamorous nuts and bolts to others -- and Romney is especially strong. No matter how much he prepares or strategizes, he can't make up for years of inattention to detail and insulation from reality.

Romney is quicker on his feet than Obama. Obama is long on cliches and short on specifics. Obama is such a dogmatic ideologue he is blind to his policy failures. He's oblivious to the reality that his endless expansions of government have injured, rather than healed, the economy and that his quixotic policies of appeasement are making us weaker, so he misinterprets evidence of his policy failures as proof that he just didn't go far enough or that his policies haven't had enough time to work.

Obama is woefully inexperienced in the private sector -- in the real world, apart from politics -- and Romney has vast business experience.

Having been coddled and humored by his advisers, Obama is not in tune with his strengths and weaknesses or with the quality of his performances, as shown by his delusional belief that he won the first debate and that the transcript reinforces that fantasy. This further demonstrates that he doesn't understand the issues intimately enough to overcome his weaknesses in time for the second debate.

Obama still believes his best weapon is that he cares more than

"47 percent" Mitt -- the rich, greedy capitalist -- about the downtrodden.

But Obama's policies have devastated most of those he professes to care the most about, and Mitt gives 30 percent of his income to charity. If Obama overplays the class warfare card, I think it just might backfire on him as much as his newfound aggressiveness.

In short, Obama's tired tricks don't work well against Romney, and Romney's formidable strengths particularly expose Obama's shortcomings.

Though anything can happen, especially in the town hall format, I think Mitt will win it again going away.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012; 2012debates; barackobama; debate; democrats; elections; lamestreammedia; nobama2012; obama; obamatruthfile; strength

1 posted on 10/16/2012 4:01:06 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

I’m definitely looking forward to the debate tonight.


2 posted on 10/16/2012 4:03:25 AM PDT by corlorde (forWARD of the state)
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To: Kaslin; All

I hope that’s right.
I’m anxious about the debate tonight.
Pray for Mitt.


3 posted on 10/16/2012 4:08:20 AM PDT by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: Kaslin
Obama is the epitome of the "one trick pony."

Only in his case the trick is to just around and let the MSM tell everyone how wonderful he is and describe all the great things he can do.

And then the empty suit actually believes what they say about him.

4 posted on 10/16/2012 4:13:53 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys=Can't drive, can't ski, can't fly, can't skipper a boat, but they know what's best for you.)
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To: Kaslin
The only thing that a ‘more aggressive’ strategy will do for “O” is to make him look even MORE like an ignorant thug!

Ignorant and brutish people always mistake pushy behavior as a sign of intellect and professionalism. AS IF smart-mouth = smart!!

I work with a person like this who is so forward, unnecessarily assertive and wise-mouth that no one can stand the sight of her.... AND no one thinks she's professional!

Go ahead, “O”, make yourself even MORE ridiculous!

5 posted on 10/16/2012 4:15:55 AM PDT by SMARTY ("The man who has no inner-life is a slave to his surroundings. "Henri Frederic Amiel)
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To: Kaslin
Obama - President "Chair-man"
6 posted on 10/16/2012 4:16:31 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys=Can't drive, can't ski, can't fly, can't skipper a boat, but they know what's best for you.)
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To: Kaslin

This is a very good article that I would like to have written.

It is what we all envision f tonights debate. Hopefully it will prove to be the case, but Obama is a slimy snake and not to be taken lightly, and the moderator is as slimy as Obama, and will be on his side.


7 posted on 10/16/2012 4:20:13 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: Kaslin
Obama is very weak on policy details -- a weakness based on years of promoting the "big ideas" doing nothing but reading the teleprompter.
8 posted on 10/16/2012 4:37:24 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Kaslin
He's oblivious to the reality that his endless expansions of government have injured, rather than healed, the economy and that his quixotic policies of appeasement are making us weaker, so he misinterprets evidence of his policy failures as proof that he just didn't go far enough or that his policies haven't had enough time to work.

One of Limbaugh's rare errors.

The Won knows exactly what his policies have done; that's why he enacted them.

He was raised from his mother's knee to loathe this country, to loathe Western Civilization, to loathe liberty itself.

He wants to turn this country into a third-world socialist dunghole, with most of us dead and the rest in chains.

And if he's reelected he'll do it.

9 posted on 10/16/2012 4:41:20 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Kaslin

Obama is out of ideas and out of steam! Praying Romney takes him out!


10 posted on 10/16/2012 4:43:18 AM PDT by Michigander222
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To: Kaslin
Stripped of media protection during the debate, his profound weaknesses were exposed for 70 million to see, and there's no going back.""""""

And no matter how a moderator ATTEMPTS to help Obama and give him clues of what the subject is, he still FAILS.

That is just the way it is with LIARS, a case of CRS.

Imagine having to remember 4 years of your own lies or those concocted for you to read off the teleprompter, there is O's problem.

11 posted on 10/16/2012 4:51:05 AM PDT by annieokie (O)
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To: Kaslin
Obama is long on cliches and short on specifics.

And in a complete fog without TOTUS by hs side.

12 posted on 10/16/2012 4:55:34 AM PDT by NRA1995 (I'll cling to my religion, cigars and guns till they're pried from my cold dead fingers!)
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To: Kaslin

Look for Warlord Satellite Dish Ears to over correct. I hope that he ends up a stuttering, stammering fool.


13 posted on 10/16/2012 4:57:09 AM PDT by windsorknot
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To: SMARTY

The raging and berserker black man comes tearing out of his corner, shrieking about “the 47%” and “vulture capitalism”, neither issue of which has very much heft, but like a fragmenting slug from a high velocity .223, when propelled with sufficent force, can still do grave damage. Let us hope that Mitt has donned Kevlar personal body armor. And is agile enough to duck.

Presumedly, tonight’s debate will be free-ranging, and with foreign policy on tap, Obama will be floundering into territory in which he shall be far less knowledgeable than Romney, who has taken the initiative to at least acquaint himself with the REAL timeline of events in Benghazi, from the first requests for additional security to the actual assault on the compound, and the aftermath in the flow of the intelligence. Nowhere does this fairy tale of some obscure video that presumedly defamed the crazy old sand hermit from the 7th Century play a part, except in the febrile imagination of certain spokespersons for the Current Regime.

If Obama wants to be a smart-@$$, first he has to be smart. Otherwise, he just comes off as being an @$$.


14 posted on 10/16/2012 5:01:12 AM PDT by alloysteel ("You have attributed conditions to villainy that simply result from stupidity".)
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To: Kaslin

I have confidence Mitt can handle whatever the idiot, either Zero or Crowley, throws him tonight. I read here yesterday about Romney’s numerous degrees compared to Zero’s hidden transcripts. Romney was able to take it to Newt in FL so I think he is up to the challenge and without a teleprompter, I think Zero will fail again. I’m sure Portman has prepared him will for various possibilities and Mitt knows his stuff, Zero doesn’t.


15 posted on 10/16/2012 5:01:20 AM PDT by Qwackertoo (Romney/Ryan 2012 The Future of Our Children and Their Children are at stake.)
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To: Kaslin
Though Mitt will have his work cut out for him, too, I view him as the odds-on favorite to prevail again.

I agree. He and his campaign are not stupid: they know the format is stacked against him, and he will have prepared and planned to debate Zero, the audience, and the "moderator."

16 posted on 10/16/2012 5:02:38 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Will this be on the test?)
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To: DuncanWaring

And your error is that you fail to factor in Obama’s Muslim motivations.

Arab Spring: Not about democracy or freedom, it’s about overthrowing governments and handing them to the Muslim Brotherhood, Al Qaeda, Iran.... Obama Osama Hussein is in full support of the destruction that will result.

Hussein is just using his leftist knowledge to position the useful idiots like the Clintons for further destruction of the west.


17 posted on 10/16/2012 5:02:50 AM PDT by politicianslie (Obama: Our first Muslim PRESIDENT,destroying America $1 Trillion at a time! And America sleeps)
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To: corlorde

Pre-debate polls show Obama as the run-away winner </sarc>.


18 posted on 10/16/2012 5:11:57 AM PDT by Arm_Bears (Re-distribute my work ethic, not my wealth.)
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To: Kaslin

I’ve got to remember to get popcorn on my way home.


19 posted on 10/16/2012 5:17:40 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Global Warming is a religion, and I don't want to be taxed to pay for a faith that is not mine.)
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To: alloysteel
A couple of things:

1.) Since “O” and the other half-wit on his ticket insist they were not informed that of a request for more security, this allows the American public to assume as well, that neither of these two knew much then (or knows any more NOW) about the situation and therefore... CANNOT claim any foreign policy prowess OR achievement!

2.) The equally amusing high-wire act will be the ‘moderator’ attempting to run the debate WHILE pretending that the Libyan situation was/is an abysmal public FUBAR beyond all US historic record and that “O” actually possess foreign policy capabilities and may claim ANY foreign policy successes!

20 posted on 10/16/2012 5:26:31 AM PDT by SMARTY ("The man who has no inner-life is a slave to his surroundings. "Henri Frederic Amiel)
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To: SMARTY

To clarify:

2.) ...WHILE pretending that the Libyan situation was/is NOT a public and abysmal FUBAR ...


21 posted on 10/16/2012 5:28:54 AM PDT by SMARTY ("The man who has no inner-life is a slave to his surroundings. "Henri Frederic Amiel)
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To: Kaslin

"Is this guy some kind of awesome or what??"

22 posted on 10/16/2012 5:32:06 AM PDT by Cincinatus (Omnia relinquit servare Rempublicam)
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To: Kaslin

I posted this last week but pardon me if I believe it bears repeating:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2941609/posts#42

I remember posting something like this during 2008. I don’t know how to search back that far otherwise I’d link to it.

Obama is not an alpha male. He’s not a leader. He’s not being courteous. In terms of fight or flight, he’s flight. No matter what happens, his reaction to confrontation during a debate is a lose-lose proposition. He’s not a natural fighter and like most people who aren’t natural fighters, fighting back will not go well for him initially.

When Romney goes on the attack, Obama will respond in one of two ways:

1 - Obama’s natural reaction to in-your-face aggression is to shrink. To be defensive. You can see it in his body language, his face, his tone...everything. He’s in a defensive posture.
He’s afraid. The deep instinct in him is to flee but he can’t flee. So he does the next best thing - he covers up. He looks away. Folds his arms. These are positions people get into when they are hiding weakness.
For those of you who are not comfortable standing up and presenting to groups, think about what you’d do with your hands. You’d stuff them in your pockets or fold them across your chest. That’s the body doing what instinct tells it to - cover up so as to minimize exposure to danger.
That’s basically what happened last week.

2 - If Obama forces himself past his instinctual reaction and fights back, I think he’s in even more trouble. How can he expect to fight against Mitt Romney’s debate points when he’s fighting against how own self?
If he does decide to fight back it will come off as childish with a dash of sarcastic When it comes to fighting back against someone who’s being aggressive to him, he’s not used to it. He doesn’t know how. Fighting back may be an instinct but doing it well is a learned skill. Plenty of guys have the fight instinct but have no idea how to actually fight. They learn it over time.

Time, Obama does not have. This is not a 5 minute Rocky montage.

Since he’ll be in an unnatural state (fighting back), his instincts will be at war with his reasoning. This, plus his inexperience with doing it, are a bad mix for him. It’ll change his voice, his inflection, cadence. It’ll mess with his ability to draw on facts quickly, forget about coming up with something new.

For debaters, a debate is a left brain activity. The left brain is used for things like logic and reasoning. As Obama be fighting this war with his own instinct, he’ll be completely in his right brain - emotion, feelings etc..I’d say it’s very unlikely that something good can come of this approach for Obama

Lastly, Obama has another enemy on the stage: Adrenaline.

He’s been on stage a thousand times so he’s used to that. He’s done his fair share (pun intended) of debating so he’s used to that too. What he hasn’t done is stand up to an aggressive enemy that’s right in his face.

The first few times he tries this against Romney, he’ll get an adrenaline rush. When that happens, he’ll have all sorts of extra physical energy and no way to release it. It’s not the kind of energy that can be channeled into mental acuity. He’ll be fidgety, shifting his weight, and unable to really focus the way he wants to.

Now all of this will happen very quickly - but it’ll happen. He’ll lose his “soaring rhetorical” voice, the deep sonorous tone we all hate. He’ll “ummm” and “uhhh” even more than usual. He’ll fidget around with a pen or piece of paper. His tone will be wrong.

He’ll try to look Mitt in the eye and may even succeed for a few seconds but he’ll look away before Mitt does.

My summation and prediction is that Romney has figured out how to get to Obama. Obama has about a week and a half left to come up with some kind of response which doesn’t make him look weak and/or childish.

I don’t think he’s going to get there. I think Obama’s in a lot of trouble these next few debates. Presidential-bid-ending kinds of trouble.


23 posted on 10/16/2012 5:34:48 AM PDT by Personal Responsibility (The Left blaming Jim Lehrer for the debate is like blaming Liencoln's assassination on the play.i of)
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To: Venturer

Agreed. Outstanding article.


24 posted on 10/16/2012 5:34:48 AM PDT by PAR
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To: Kaslin

He can’t project the manufactured image without TOTUS. I wonder if the Republicans were bright enough to insist that TOTUS not be present in the debate? I wonder why he kenyan’s handlers acceded to the debates at all without TOTUS? Are they so sure of their control of the vote counting process that it doesn’t matter how badly he bombs in the debates?


25 posted on 10/16/2012 5:38:28 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINE www.fee.org/library/books/economics-in-one-lesson)
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To: politicianslie

Obama’s Muslim sympathies are merely a means to an end.

The “end” being the end of Western Civilization.


26 posted on 10/16/2012 5:45:03 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Personal Responsibility

Nice analysis and well thought out. I think you are probably right on the money, but not 100% sure my loathing for Obama is not clouding my judgment. Can’t wait to find out tonight.


27 posted on 10/16/2012 5:46:49 AM PDT by PAR
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To: N. Theknow
Obama - President "Chair-man"

I believe he sees himself as "Chariman" in the mode of Mao and Stalin. I also believe that he believes he will be institutionalized in that mode after the election. This election is, or will trigger, for the Left, the Revolution. Everything else has been preliminary. Once this election is passed then the Revolution is either The New Order or it is temporarily defeated. Either way I believe the republic is probably dead and from now on politics will consist of fighting and/or among factions at the top while the immortal Bureaucracy actually rules.

28 posted on 10/16/2012 5:46:49 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINE www.fee.org/library/books/economics-in-one-lesson)
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To: alloysteel
I certainly hope that the debate doesn't focus on the Libyan farce to the exclusion of other topics.

“O” would love that because it will divert attention away from the economy and his abject mismanagement of the situation at home as well!!

29 posted on 10/16/2012 5:49:39 AM PDT by SMARTY ("The man who has no inner-life is a slave to his surroundings. "Henri Frederic Amiel)
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To: DuncanWaring
Obama’s Muslim sympathies are merely a means to an end. The “end” being the end of Western Civilization.

Which is he Moslem goal. The kenyan is likely not smart or educated enough to not be an actual Moslem. The Communists are, however, smart enough or to use his adherence to Islam for the end of Western Civilization.

30 posted on 10/16/2012 5:51:43 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINE www.fee.org/library/books/economics-in-one-lesson)
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To: patriot08

Pray that the truth be revealed and shouted from the rooftops about BOTH of them.

The truth is far more damaging to 0bama than to Romney, to be sure.


31 posted on 10/16/2012 5:52:18 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Kaslin

Watch O’Bastard’s middle finger tonight. It will be active.


32 posted on 10/16/2012 5:55:06 AM PDT by crosshairs (America: Once the land of the free. Still the home of the brave.)
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To: Personal Responsibility

The debate tonight will not be Romney and Obama confronting each other on issues. It will be a simple Q&A format with scripted questions getting scripted responses. More or less a live campaign add. Obama will hold his own and the media will declare him the “comeback Kid”


33 posted on 10/16/2012 6:10:56 AM PDT by BobinIL
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To: Personal Responsibility
The first few times he tries this against Romney, he’ll get an adrenaline rush. When that happens, he’ll have all sorts of extra physical energy and no way to release it. It’s not the kind of energy that can be channeled into mental acuity. He’ll be fidgety, shifting his weight, and unable to really focus the way he wants to.

Plus, he'll need a smoke REALLLLLL bad.
34 posted on 10/16/2012 6:11:58 AM PDT by crosshairs (America: Once the land of the free. Still the home of the brave.)
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To: Kaslin

Obama has spent a lifetime being unprepared for this night. I think Mitt will be just fine.


35 posted on 10/16/2012 6:29:36 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: DuncanWaring

The TOTUS does not like to be challenged. He is lost without his canned script, and therein lies a huge weakness that Mitt should exploit.


36 posted on 10/16/2012 6:40:00 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: Qwackertoo

I’m sure Portman has prepared him will for various possibilities and Mitt knows his stuff
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If Mitt wins, the country will owe Rob Portman a huge debt of gratitude. His work preparing Mitt for the first debate helped turn the vote around.


37 posted on 10/16/2012 6:43:25 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: Personal Responsibility

“Romney has figured out how to get to Obama”
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Challenge him. Repeatedly point out his lies and the cost of his failures.

Good post BTW. I hope you’re right.


38 posted on 10/16/2012 6:50:11 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: Kaslin

I keep picturing the moment when Al Gore marched up to Dubya during the 2000 Town Hall debate.

That scene always makes me literally LOL as Dubya gives him a dismissive nod while Gore goes on and on about Dingle-Norwood! LOL!

Please Lord - let Obama try the same “Alpha Male” technique with equally hilarious results!


39 posted on 10/16/2012 7:01:22 AM PDT by RMDupree (I'm not really here.)
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To: Kaslin

Count on Candy “pass the pork chops” Crowley to try to help Barry stutter through it. I hope if she tries to reinterpret any questions Mitt just tells her he’s going to answer the actual question the Townhall participant has asked and then ignore Candy.


40 posted on 10/16/2012 7:05:29 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: N. Theknow

Romney’s ready for the snake.

He’ll make “Chairman Maobama” appear like the angry tyrant he is.


41 posted on 10/16/2012 7:07:24 AM PDT by AlanGreenSpam (Obama: The First 'American IDOL' President - sponsored by Chicago NeoCom Thugs)
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To: patriot08
Pray for Mitt.

I've been praying for lies to be exposed and for the light to shine on truth, wherever that leads. So far, I believe that has happened.

And, I've been praying for wisdom for the voters.

42 posted on 10/16/2012 7:23:04 AM PDT by mombonn (God is looking for spiritual fruit, not religious nuts.)
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To: BobinIL

I’m willing to bet Obozo doesn’t look Romney in the eye a single time. In fact, he’ll do his best to keep his distance. It’s the only way he can hang onto a shred of confidence, as he knows damn well he isn’t the alpha dog in this show.


43 posted on 10/16/2012 7:23:27 AM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1)
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To: Personal Responsibility

Obama is not familiar with people disagreeing with him in person. No academic professor, not alumni at Harvard, nobody in Chicago and not the press. Having someone right there on stage with him pushing back on his words is so new to him he is dumbstruck!!


44 posted on 10/16/2012 7:31:13 AM PDT by thirst4truth (www.Believer.com)
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To: Kaslin

Candy’s collected hundreds of questions from the stage props - she’ll pick the ones that make Obama look good.

The commissions’ idea of fairness in moderators: an old liberal, a rude liberal and a fat liberal. Gotta love that diversity.


45 posted on 10/16/2012 8:31:51 AM PDT by GOPJ (Candy picks ALL questions to ask from the hundreds submitted - Citizens are stage props.)
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To: Windflier

Right... “O” has no basic and functioning frame of reference for any of this.

What is worse and even more offensive, he is so arrogant and smug that he didn’t bother to LEARN anything from the 4 years he was lucky enough to spend in the WH.


46 posted on 10/16/2012 8:39:05 AM PDT by SMARTY ("The man who has no inner-life is a slave to his surroundings. "Henri Frederic Amiel)
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To: Kaslin

Barack Obama is a small, petty criminal, endowed with neither above average intelligence nor any sort of likeable personality. He is the most egregious example of Affirmative Action preferences ever foisted upon America. He is concocted from nothing, a cipher, a Manchurian candidate. He is as likeable as a pit viper, but with none of that creature’s warmth and personality.

Barack Obama - the concoction - is just that. Poison, hemlock, that unfortunately for America, was accepted by sufficient numbers of delusional parasites to put us all in danger.


47 posted on 10/16/2012 8:45:25 AM PDT by astounded (Barack Obama is a clear and present danger to the USA)
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To: Personal Responsibility

Excellent analysis thank you for reposting it as I didnt see it the first time.


48 posted on 10/16/2012 9:11:53 AM PDT by conservcalgal (Dear Lord, please bless our nation and those who have stepped up to serve our nation with honor.....)
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To: astounded

I fail to see too what is likeable about this arrogant lazy, lying pos.


49 posted on 10/16/2012 10:05:12 AM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Qwackertoo

And Newt is certainly not one that is stupid


50 posted on 10/16/2012 10:08:41 AM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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