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New Oklahoma law allows ammo in locked cars parked at work
hrhero.com ^ | 12 October, 2012 | Charlie Plumb

Posted on 10/16/2012 5:06:07 AM PDT by marktwain

An Oklahoma law going into effect on November 1 allows employees to store ammunition in their locked vehicles parked at work.

A key aspect of Oklahoma’s Self-Defense Act allows people with valid gun licenses to carry handguns openly as well as concealed weapons in many public places. But another part of the open-carry law affects how people can store ammunition in their cars. The bill was signed by Governor Mary Fallin on November 15.

Oklahoma law already prohibited employers from having policies banning employees from keeping guns locked in their vehicles in employer parking lots. The new law says employers also may not prohibit employees from keeping ammunition in the parking lot.

Under the new law, businesses are still allowed to prohibit weapons in their buildings. Therefore, employers can still enforce policies that prohibit employees — even those with valid licenses — from bringing guns or weapons of any type into the workplace.

Make sure you have a “no weapons in the building” policy that is distributed to your workforce and is posted. Your policy also should prohibit ammo in the building.

Charlie Plumb is editor of Oklahoma Employment Law Letter and an attorney with McAfee & Taft in Tulsa.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Oklahoma
KEYWORDS: banglist; employer; ok; opencarry
It appears tha Charlie Plumb is advising people to have a "no weapons in the building" policy. Does this make him liable if people are disarmed in a defensless victim zone, and are then assaulted or killed?
1 posted on 10/16/2012 5:06:16 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Until a few insurance companies are burned for policies that require employees to be sitting ducks, this will be the standard received advice.


2 posted on 10/16/2012 5:08:29 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (let me ABOs run loose, lew (or is that lou?))
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To: marktwain

By the way, given the Oklahoma sun and heat, I hope people are careful about how they store ammo in cars and trucks, so that it will not inadvertently cook off.


3 posted on 10/16/2012 5:10:29 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (let me ABOs run loose, lew (or is that lou?))
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To: marktwain

The bill was signed by Governor Mary Fallin on November 15.
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This is either VERY old or VERY new.
Just another good case of editing/copy writing.


4 posted on 10/16/2012 5:14:22 AM PDT by xrmusn (6/98 "It is virtually impossible to clean the pond as long as the pigs are still crapping in it")
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To: xrmusn; marktwain

The bill was signed this past May and it goes into effect next month. http://cheaperthandirt.com/blog/?tag=oklahoma-self-defense-act


5 posted on 10/16/2012 5:19:38 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: marktwain

Another confusing article.

Before this law could gun owners store their weapons in their car ONLY IF THERE WAS AMMUNITION?

If the car was UNLOCKED, would the law be needed? (It is too early in the morning to read such drivel.)


6 posted on 10/16/2012 5:41:20 AM PDT by nonsporting
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To: marktwain

Doesn’t apply to the Feds.


7 posted on 10/16/2012 5:59:34 AM PDT by ops33 (Senior Master Sergeant, USAF (Retired))
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Normal handgun and rifle ammo will not cook of in an auto unless the auto catches fire for some reason. I keep it next to my automatic revolver.


8 posted on 10/16/2012 6:39:39 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: nonsporting

I guess you had to carry the ammo in your pocket and keep your weapon in the car.


9 posted on 10/16/2012 6:41:06 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

You got a Webley-Fosberry auto revolver? Very cool! Them suckers are rare!


10 posted on 10/16/2012 6:54:36 AM PDT by Zippo44 (Liberal: another word for poltroon.)
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To: Zippo44

The barrel turns and the cylinders stay still.


11 posted on 10/16/2012 6:57:00 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

> I guess you had to carry the ammo in your pocket and keep your weapon in the car.

Without ammo, it’s just a club.


12 posted on 10/16/2012 7:06:18 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (Obama loved the poor so much, he created millions more.)
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To: Zippo44

Mateba.


13 posted on 10/16/2012 7:22:29 AM PDT by Rinnwald
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To: HiTech RedNeck
"By the way, given the Oklahoma sun and heat, I hope people are careful about how they store ammo in cars and trucks, so that it will not inadvertently cook off."

Have you actually witnessed a case where any amount of undisturbed ammo "cooked off" (exploded spontaneously) due to any (even an exacerbated) natural condition?

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Didn't think so...

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(Note: I am not arguing that future ammo performance might not be affected by improper storage conditions.)

14 posted on 10/16/2012 7:50:05 AM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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To: Zippo44

wouldnt any revolver in your car be an “auto” revolver?


15 posted on 10/16/2012 7:50:05 AM PDT by Docbarleypop
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To: Docbarleypop

It depends on the transmission in the vehicle.


16 posted on 10/16/2012 10:58:05 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Stand Up and Be Counted ... Or Line Up and Be Numbered ...)
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To: marktwain
What a useless law; the OK Constitution already addresses the issue:
Art 2, § 26. Bearing arms - Carrying weapons.
The right of a citizen to keep and bear arms in defense of his home, person, or property, or in aid of the civil power, when thereunto legally summoned, shall never be prohibited; but nothing herein contained shall prevent the Legislature from regulating the carrying of weapons.

17 posted on 10/16/2012 10:59:41 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: TXnMA
(Note: I am not arguing that future ammo performance might not be affected by improper storage conditions.)

And so it would be a good idea to rotate it. No sense having ammo which won't shoot when you want it to.

18 posted on 10/16/2012 3:03:51 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (let me ABOs run loose, lew (or is that lou?))
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To: OneWingedShark

you missed the weasel words at the end. that’s why it was not “unnecessary.”


19 posted on 10/16/2012 3:05:41 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (let me ABOs run loose, lew (or is that lou?))
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To: HiTech RedNeck

No, the “weasel words” apply specifically to concealed carry... traditionally hiding your weapons was a sign of ill intent.


20 posted on 10/16/2012 4:15:19 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Obvious -- and an obvious evasion. I ask again (slightly extended):

"Have you actually witnessed (or can provide a documenting reference to) a case where any amount of undisturbed ammo "cooked off" (exploded spontaneously) due to any (even an exacerbated) natural condition?"

(NOTE: I have ignited powder and initiated primers with solar energy concentrated through a focusing lens; that is not a "natural" condition...)

PUOSU!

21 posted on 10/16/2012 5:58:20 PM PDT by TXnMA (EPITAPH: (if FR dies) "Committed suicide over 'principles'"...)
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To: TXnMA

If you want to be technically picky about it, you have just exacerbated a natural condition.


22 posted on 10/16/2012 6:01:08 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (let me ABOs run loose, lew (or is that lou?))
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I’ve heard a length of hose refered to as an “Okie credit card.” Maybe ammo left on the dashboard will become known as Okie +P+.


23 posted on 10/17/2012 3:02:15 PM PDT by gundog (Help us, Nairobi-Wan Kenobi...you're our only hope.)
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