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Dad Protests for Son Suspended After Standing Up to Bully
yahoo ^ | October 15, 2012 | KEVIN DOLAK

Posted on 10/16/2012 7:38:53 AM PDT by grundle

A Texas dad who recently returned from a year in Afghanistan spent his time at home picketing his son's middle school after the teen was sent to another school for standing up to a bully he says had been harassing him for years.

Randy Duke, who trains police officers in Afghanistan, has found himself spending his days back in Victoria, Texas, wedged between two pieces of poster board with the phrase "BULLYING VICTIMS ARE PUNISHED HERE" emblazoned on each side. The 48-year-old dad spent hours each day wearing the signs and picketing outside of Cade Middle School.

"The school administration assessed the situation, and gave what I believe was a harsh punishment," Duke told ABC News. "They looked at this as a fight -- which it was not. Had it been, in-school suspension would be an appropriate punishment."

Duke's 13-year-old son Max said he hit his breaking point after another student stomped on one of the expert paper airplanes Max had made and given to a classmate with special needs.

"My son said, 'why would you do that?' and the kid shoved my son. Max shoved back, and an altercation continued," Duke said. "Max has been working hard to stay away from him, since he had been confronted by him and other kids before. They would use racial slurs – saying 'we don't like you because you're white.'"

Accodring to Duke, a teacher said both Max and the other teen were able to get blows in. After the fight was broken up, Max was subjected to the school's policy on fights within the school -- a two-day suspension, after which he was sent to Victoria's Mitchell Guidance Center – an alternate school where students are sent through metal detectors, given pat-downs before entering and even have their fingernails checked.

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1 posted on 10/16/2012 7:38:56 AM PDT by grundle
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To: grundle

” They would use racial slurs – saying ‘we don’t like you because you’re white.’”

Silly father, you can’t use racial slurs regarding whites.


2 posted on 10/16/2012 7:42:16 AM PDT by MNDude (OWS Movement RIP)
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To: grundle

In the age of Obama blacks can never be bullys, only victims.


3 posted on 10/16/2012 7:42:30 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: grundle

these anti-bully campaigns are more or less anti-male campaigns.

Essentially they are intended to sissify society into a bunch of nany state crybabies who go running to the government for a free phone to call for help from Her-sister.


4 posted on 10/16/2012 7:49:32 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: grundle

That kid should have been pulled from that school years ago.


5 posted on 10/16/2012 7:52:44 AM PDT by goldi
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To: longtermmemmory
these anti-bully campaigns are more or less anti-male campaigns. Essentially they are intended to sissify society into a bunch of nany state crybabies who go running to the government for a free phone to call for help from Her-sister.

So a kid who is being bullied who wants it to stop and tries to use proper channels without physical altercation is a sissy? Not every kid likes to fight.

6 posted on 10/16/2012 7:56:47 AM PDT by New Perspective (Proud father of a 8 yr old son with Down Syndrome and fighting to keep him off Obama's death panels.)
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To: New Perspective
Not every kid likes to fight.

Very few people do. I've never wanted to fight...but I've done it. Some things are worth fighting for.

7 posted on 10/16/2012 8:01:49 AM PDT by TankerKC (If Mitt Romney is elected, everyone in the US will die!)
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To: longtermmemmory

You didn’t read the article, I bet.


8 posted on 10/16/2012 8:05:00 AM PDT by wolficatZ ("We are no longer accepting comments on this article")
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To: longtermmemmory
these anti-bully campaigns are more or less anti-male campaigns.

What nonsense. If they are anti-anything - they are anti white. It is rare that a black kid who bullies a white kid gets the same punishment that the white kid will get, and the truth of the matter is the white kid will more often be punished for defending him/herself from the black bully.

Some of the worst bullies in schools are girls and that was even true back in the 60s and 70s when I was in school - and I attended private, not public schools.

9 posted on 10/16/2012 8:05:41 AM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: New Perspective

Suggesting that males can learn and practice self-control is “anti-male.” Suggesting that they should lean and practice self-control is “emasculating.” I don’t think there’s even a term to cover the dangerous, heretical notion that there exists a boy who would prefer not to fight!


10 posted on 10/16/2012 8:08:44 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Will this be on the test?)
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To: New Perspective

Sometimes ‘liking’ it or not has nothing to do with it.


11 posted on 10/16/2012 8:09:12 AM PDT by Noumenon (“...the other side wants everything in America to be free, except us.” -- Paul Ryan)
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To: grundle
School officials will do nothing to stop bullies, they will only punish those who fight back. Some years back, my then 3rd grade daughter was bullied and beaten up every few weeks by three 6th grade boys. We asked the school and the parents of the boys to do something to stop it. Nothing. We enrolled my daughter in a self defense course for young women. 8 weeks later she was attacked by the same three boys. The result was that her jacket was ripped, one boy lost 4 front teeth, one boy suffered a broken nose and the third suffered a broken index right finger. The school and the parents were furious. The school proposed 3 months of detention for my daughter. Our response was to threaten them with a lawsuit for negligence and to seek an order of protection against the 3 boys, their parents and the school officials involved. My daughter did not serve any detention.
12 posted on 10/16/2012 8:12:13 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (Obama loved the poor so much, he created millions more.)
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To: grundle

Punish the White Victim. Not the Black (?) Bully.

Nothing to see here. Move along.


13 posted on 10/16/2012 8:19:23 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (You didn't build that. The private sector is doing fine. We tried our plan and it worked.)
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To: grundle

As much as I hate/dislike lawyers, this man needs a mean and tough lawyer.

My wife had a co worker, who had a child with special needs on the opposite ends re her intelligence/IQ was off the high end. The 13 year old was a little over weight, very shy and her parents were black and hispanic.

She became a target of dumb and out of control black and hispanic female bullies. The bullies went from verbal bullying to the girl being pushed/shoved and even slapped each day by the equal opportunity bullies.

The principal and superintendent refused to help this poor girl.

I told the mother to hire a private detective to get videos and then get the meanest civil trial lawyer she could find.

They hired a female private detective. The mother dropped her girl off at school and drove away a couple of days later. The bullies descended on the girl, slapped, pushed her on the ground and screamed obscenities at her. The private detective, a female, blew a whistle and yelled at the bullies.

The principal came out to tell the detective to get off the grounds. She was recording him and asked if he was going to do anything about the bullies. He just glared at her. The bullies like him were equal opportunity thugs.

Copies of the videos were made and sent to the principal,superintendent, teachers and school board that afternoon, and the mayor and other elected political officials.

That afternoon in an emergency ad hoc meeting, the mean A$$ lawyer told the enablers, to stop the bullying, expel the bullies and to get the girl out of that school. Then, remove the principal in some position where he had no power nor contact with students.

Then, the mean A$$ lawyer dropped the civil court bomb on the enablers. He said, that the video would be on every tv channel in 24 hours and on You Tube. Then, he would sue everyone in civil court for enabling the bullies, and his client, the abused young lady would own everything they owned.

He got everything he asked for and the young girl was sent to good private school. She has since been graduated from an excellent university and holds a good job.

The principal was put in charge of inventorying janitorial supplies. He took early retirement and left that community.


14 posted on 10/16/2012 8:19:58 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (We are the 53%, who pay taxes and keep this country going inspite of the 47% rat moochers!)
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To: grundle
Gee, and I thought that school policy might have “evolved” since the 90s. Poor dad's plight reminds me of my own while living in Maryland back in the mid 90s.

My son was in middle school, and, being bullied constantly! Finally, I shared with him some advise my mom had given me back in the 50s. I was routinely a** whipped by a neighbor kid. Mom told me that if I wanted it to stop I'd need to administer a little a** kicking of my own.
Amazing as it might seem, but, fighting back never occurred to me. In fact, acts of violence were really frowned upon!
Well, I told my son that he had my blessing to administer a little justice the next time the bully attacked, after he told a teacher. Well the bully attacked, the teacher didn't respond and my son kicked his butt, never to be bothered again.

As a reward, the school put my son in “in-school” detention. When I told them that I was more that able, as his parent, to administer corporal punishment when necessary, I was told that it I ever struck my son they'd report me to CPS! I told the teacher to do her best because I sure was!

I was never so happy as when I got to leave the Maryland public schools for Texas!

15 posted on 10/16/2012 8:24:17 AM PDT by cpa4you (CPA4YOU)
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To: All

This is a serious problem.

It started decades ago with the “No Tolerance” to Violence policies in public schools.

The reason is because minorities were initiating the fights. So, of course in our PC world....we couldn’t have minorities serving suspensions in higher proportions than whites.

The same prison meme that we hear....”...there are x percent of blacks in prisons...that is disproportionate.”

This happened on our private school football team recently. One kid was looking to fight about three different people, one at a time. He punched one of the kids and instantly got rocked by a right cross that blew his eye socket up like a balloon.

All of the kids in the locker room testified to the Principal that the kid injured started it. The kid even admitted it.

They both got suspended. I’ve already told me son, that if he is suspended for defending himself, he will be punished with a steak dinner and possibly a trip to Hershey Park.


16 posted on 10/16/2012 8:25:02 AM PDT by rbmillerjr (Conservative Economic and National Security Commentary: econus.blogspot.com)
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To: MNDude
Silly father, you can’t use racial slurs regarding whites.

Honkey, whitey, white devils, white boy, wigger, cracker.

17 posted on 10/16/2012 8:32:47 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month)
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To: BuffaloJack
School officials will do nothing to stop bullies, they will only punish those who fight back.

This reminds me of an interview I watched on youtube some time ago, where a former Russian operative was describing their tactics: one phase was called something like 'normalization' which was basically convincing people that their state of affairs was normal, but before that one there was a 'demoralization' stage which was designed to make the people lose hope that anything could be done to prevent the outcomes the Russians wanted.

I wonder how many people have a more hopeless mindset because of the indoctrination of the public schools.

18 posted on 10/16/2012 8:34:41 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: circlecity

This happened in Victoria, Tx. I would bet that the bully was more likely illegal alien Mexican than black kid.


19 posted on 10/16/2012 8:38:18 AM PDT by Double Tap
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To: grundle

My sister’s son had a similar incident in middle school. At lunch time, several classmates would punch him in the arm and say, “What’s up, whitey.” One day, he had had enough and punched one of them back and said. “What’s up, n_____.” The other kids started yelling at him, a teacher intervened, and my nephew was going to be suspended. My sister, who was a school bus driver for the district and knew the other kids, explained to the school officials what had been going on. One of them said. “I suppose you don’t think your son should be suspended.” She responded, “No, what my son did was wrong and he should be suspended. But if you suspend him, I expect you to also suspend. . .” and she started naming names. Nobody was suspended.


20 posted on 10/16/2012 9:15:56 AM PDT by rwa265
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To: Tax-chick

“I don’t think there’s even a term to cover the dangerous, heretical notion that there exists a boy who would prefer not to fight!”

Say what? Did you forget a sarcasm tag? I was not a brawler and preferred not to fight. My meekness seemed like an open invitation to the bullies. Then, fight I did. I knocked out teeth and generally drew blood. My parents taught me, never start a fight, but finish them. A few irate mothers called my mother to say I had knocked out their angels’ front teeth. Mom said, “then tell your boy to stay away from mine” and hung up. Thank God, lawyers were not resorted to back then. I have a hatred for bullies of any type.


21 posted on 10/16/2012 9:21:54 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: Tax-chick

and so chimes in a woman who thinks she knows what it is to be a teenage boy harrassed by the same bully for years.


22 posted on 10/16/2012 9:26:37 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Tax-chick
*snicker*

I see you doubled up on your sarcasm supplements today. :)

23 posted on 10/16/2012 9:31:50 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Fate plays chess and you don't find out until too late that he's been using two queens all along)
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To: grundle
Max has been working hard to stay away from him, since he had been confronted by him and other kids before. They would use racial slurs – saying 'we don't like you because you're white.'"

I wonder how many local print and broadcast media reports had that little tidbit deleted?

24 posted on 10/16/2012 9:43:57 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: longtermmemmory
These so-called “anti-bully” campaigns aren't aimed at bullying behavior. They are aimed at any behavior which makes any student “feel” bad. Today mild teasing is considered bullying. While I agree that student misbehavior at all levels should be addressed, calling all such behavior bullying is ridicules. All this is doing is making schools institute zero tolerance actions (suspensions/expulsions) against students unnecessarily.
25 posted on 10/16/2012 9:48:30 AM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier who has survived 24 months of Combat deployment.)
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To: rbmillerjr
When my youngest daughter was in first grade (she's now 27) a third grade boy for weeks bullied her and her younger brother. He would pull her hair, trip her and her brother, and push them to the ground. After trying to enlist help from school staff over those weeks, without success, my daughter took care of the boy herself. One day he attempted to bully them again. She grabbed the boy by his hair and dragged his back across the blacktop, scraping his back up nicely. She also took some hair as a souvenir. She received two days of school suspension. The boy never bothered them again.
26 posted on 10/16/2012 9:56:36 AM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier who has survived 24 months of Combat deployment.)
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To: Tax-chick

Wow. You are brave to forgo your sarcasm warning. LOL


27 posted on 10/16/2012 9:59:23 AM PDT by Politicalmom (Liberalism. Ideas so great they have to be mandatory.-FReeper Osage Orange)
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To: TexasRepublic

The sarcasm tag was in the Invisible font.


28 posted on 10/16/2012 10:20:53 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Will this be on the test?)
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To: grundle

I got expelled for tuning up a bully in high school.

The principal expelled me, the superintendent of schools changed it to a suspension because he knew the kid had it coming but was still pretty hacked I did it in the school during school hours.

Sometimes you just have to take your lumps.


29 posted on 10/16/2012 10:54:08 AM PDT by dangerdoc (see post #6)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear; Politicalmom

I’m liberating my inner John Semmens. Lots of people believe his satires are straight news ;-).


30 posted on 10/16/2012 1:41:44 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Will this be on the test?)
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