Skip to comments.University of North Carolina denies Iraq vet in-state tuition as it mulls giving break to illegals
Posted on 10/16/2012 8:53:11 AM PDT by servo1969
EXCLUSIVE--The University of North Carolina, which is currently considering giving illegal immigrants in-state tuition benefits, denied an Army sergeant the same break even though she owns a home in the Tar Heel state and only moved away briefly because the military stationed her husband in Texas.
Hayleigh Perez, 26, hoped to use her G.I. Bill to attend the UNCs Pembroke campus near Fort Bragg, but the young veteran -- who served a 14-month tour in Iraq -- was told she did not qualify as a state resident because she had been gone for about three years.
I got frustrated. When I tried to inquire, they kept putting up roadblocks, Perez told FoxNews.com. Its just disgraceful that life in Iraq, where you could die, is easier than trying to go to school here.
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Perez enlisted in 2005, and was stationed in Fort Bragg before shipping out to Camp Bucca in Iraq. That's where she met her husband and fellow soldier, Jose Perez-Rodriguez. The pair married and, when their tours ended in 2006, bought their home in Raeford, N.C. They lived there until 2009, when Jose Perez-Rodriguez was assigned to a base in Texas. But they continued paying the mortgage and taxes on the North Carolina property while she accompanied him on his deployment for six months, and Perez has been in North Carolina for the past two years, she said.
Perez was honorably discharged in September 2009, and, after giving birth to daughter Calleigh, and sought to build a post-military career. When her husband won a transfer back to Fort Bragg to rejoin his family, Perez started applying to colleges in the area in hopes of pursuing a master's degree as a physician's assistant. She told FoxNews.com she was accepted to both UNCs Fayetteville and Pembroke branches and chose Pembroke. But Perez was shocked when UNC-Pembroke officials told her she was not considered an in-state resident, even though the Fayetteville branch said she was. The G.I. Bill Perez hoped to use for school does not cover out-of-state tuition.
"I just figured I could appeal the decision," Perez said. "I thought it would be easy.
But Perez said the appeal process consisted of appearing before a 15-member panel at the school's vice chancellors office, where her request was denied. She said she later learned that the denial was based on the fact that she had not paid income tax in North Carolina in the years in which she was in Iraq and Texas.
The process was demeaning. They [Pembroke] treated me so poorly I felt like I was a criminal on trial, she said. They told me I couldnt reapply.
Sgt. Jason Thigpen, founder and president of the Student Veterans Advocacy Group, which is helping Perez make an appeal to the school, said nearly 250,000 other student veterans nationwide have been forced to pay out-of-pocket while using their G.I. Bill due to "adverse and short-sighted changes our federal government made.
Adding insult to injury, says Thigpen, is the fact the UNC is currently considering granting in-state tuition benefits to illegal immigrants at all 16 of its branches, including Pembroke.
In North Carolina alone there are more than 5,000 student veterans facing such hardship, while the state [may grant] in-state residency for tuition purposes to illegal immigrants," he said. "That's not the deal we signed up for when joining the military, and surely isn't what was intended in the 1940s when [the G.I. Bill program] began, he added.
Officials from the university did not immediately return a request for comment on Tuesday as they were scheduled to meet with Perez.
Perez, who started an Internet petition that has garnered support from across the country with nearly 120,000 signatures in just five days, and the Students Veterans Advocacy group intend to sue both the school and the federal government if the school's decision is not reversed.
Its so much larger. This isnt just about me. Its for every veteran hitting these roadblocks, Perez said.
No matter what happens, Perez said she won't be attending UNC-Pembroke.
"Im now attending a private college," she said, declining to name the school. "I dont want to be associated with an institution that treats veterans this way.
From the articles I've read over the years by Mike Adams I have no doubt that if UNC could stop accepting GI Bill students they would - in a heartbeat. I bet every single member of that 15-member panel was a Progressive. I wonder how many were flat-out Communists or Marxists? I bet a good many.
She’s the wrong color.
interesting case ~ but the authorities at the school seem to still be engaged in the issue settled in Queen Anne’s War ~ may be the best course of action to have them rounded up, tried for treason, and disposed of ~ and that could be done by France, England or the USA.
But she has the right last name.
Similar situation in my family. I have paid taxes in NC since 1988, son was born in 1991 and has paid Fed/NC taxes on both type of tax returns, yet Pitt Community College billed me $3600 out of state since I was working overseas for the US Dept of State.... We should have paid $900 for one half year tuition. Never was able even with all the tax returns to get my money back from these bastards in NC.
“... may be the best course of action to have them rounded up, tried for treason, and disposed of ....”
And indeed this will happen after Revolution II. We’ve had it with these folks.
When you make everything about race you sound as idiotic as the leftist race baiters.
So they are saying the issue is that she did not pay income taxes in North Carolina for the past few years? I wonder what her taxes would have been compared to Texas. How much of her property taxes went to pay for education in North Carolina? By the time her appeals are done, she will have been a resident for the required amount of time.
I am interested in the comment in the story about veterans having trouble with the Feds paying for their GI benefits.
The proper conclusion is that a UNC degree is now a political award to favored groups and has no academic value - and employers should start treating it accordingly.
As I said, I got lucky, but I was still outraged by having to collect all those documents to prove I was a resident when an illegal who goes to high school for 3 years gets automatic in state tuition.
There ya go.
“When you make everything about race you sound as idiotic as the leftist race baiters.”
May I ask when reality became ‘race baiting’? I asked because the article mentioned that the treasonous in North Carolina Institutes of Academentia are considering giving tuition breaks to the illegal aliens.
UNC just endorsed Romney by this action.
Mexico's treaty with Spain pretty well covers those questions, and it's the same with the successor states to El Centro America, itself a successor state to Spain.
What's going on is the NC school administration sets one standard for American citizens, with or without hispanic surnames, and a different standard for non-citizens.
Those foreigners with hispanic surnames who are here legally as registered foreign students need to keep paying out of state tuition. That's because they are considered toadies who bowed down to American laws.
The foreigners with hispanic surnames who are here as illegal entrants are preferred for in state tuition. That's because they too are in rebellion against the laws of the United States.
This is a case of treason where we have Mexicans, among others, being consciously preferred for cash benefits over Americans.
Maybe the sheriff in that county could get the ball rolling by dragging the administration from its fortress of solitude ..............
There are many Universities, State supported and private, that will give Veterans and their dependents in-state tuition if they use the Post 9/11 GI Bill to pay for tuition.
My daughter is using my GI Bill benefit and UNC-Asheville would not allow her to pay the in-state rate. She went elsewhere.
No! She's a citizen as opposed to being an illegal alien.
The governor under Beth Purdue did not assist more than to querry the school itself and accept “their” definitation of in-state and out-of-state tuition; this while my other son attends East Carolina University under in-state tuition - the governor’s office told me it was up to each school to decide residency.... Go figure.
NOTE WELL The SEC and IRS would be interested in tax-exempt state/muni bond revenue being used for illegal purposes----purposes that were not disclosed to voters when they promoted education bond referenda.
The ever-vigilant IRS, and the SEC----not to mention banking oversight agencies---- would also be interested:
EXHIBIT A states and munis using proceeds from tax-exempt bond issues to finance illegals would be prime targets---- particularly b/c using tax-exempt dollars for illegal purposes is a crime.
Now, bond issues approved via referendum at the ballot box is a criminal biggie---since full disclosure WRT use of the tax-exempt monies was not made to potential "investors" in tax-exempt bonds---who have now been unwittingly opened to IRS and SEC fraud.
Investors in tax-exempt muni bonds might sue state and municipal perpetrators.
EXHIBIT BThe Bank Secrecy Act----as follows: banks are required to establish, implement and maintain programs designed to detect and report suspicious activity indicative of money laundering and other financial crimes WRT to agencies receiving govt monies.
The Bank Secrecy Act was enacted to protect the banking public from harm by identifying and detecting money laundering from criminal enterprises, terrorism, tax evasion or other unlawful activities, explained the the special agent in charge for IRS Criminal Investigations.
NOTE WELL The Bank Secrecy Act was passed to protect the public from harm by identifying and detecting criminal enterprises, money laundering, tax evasion and other unlawful activities.....including terrorism (L/E has proof-positiVe that Mexico is the staging area for the Third World invasion of the US---(composed of global terrorists bent on destroying America).
Ccontact these agencies pronto:
IRS toll free 1-800-829-1040
FBI TIPS PAGE https://tips.fbi.gov/
EXHIBIT CAlso culpable are govt regulated bonding agencies who are underwriting (and profiting from) state education bonds. All of the financial transactions of govt regulated bonding agencies who are underwriting education bond issues need to be examined for possible fraud, collusion and conspiracy to collude.
Newsflash: if they were going to high school for three years they were a resident for three years. You admit you barely made the cut of "one year." Suck it up.
You've got two choices: federal incurious into this clear area of state sovereignty over who and what is a resident of itself or get it changed in your state.
The feds are not going to make illegals who've squatted here "no residents" as an outgrowth of immigration policy. There's no political will for that, there's no widespread support for it in the country and it would be demographic suicide to even try.
Did you attempt legal action?
When you make everything about
race illegals you sound as idiotic as the leftist race baiters.
Look, I agree with you, but that post in number 7 above was not your best. Those folks were tapping a real issue that needs to be addressed. If your admonishment were taken serious, nobody would ever be able to address issues of racial inequity that are used by the Left to game the system.
The GI Bill used to pay a certain amount yearly, but they changed it to cover only in-state tuition for public schools. Military move around a lot and may need to move again after completing service in order to find work. This means military with state residency issues are not eligible to use their benefits for the first year or more depending on the school.
There should be an exception for active duty and veterans who move within a year or two of discharge.
Good point. I guess my separation of thought comes from the fact that I don't consider illegals a race or "color" although that is probably naive.
Everyone ought to send a e-mail to UNC-Pembroke tell them how outrage we are our vets are treated like second class citizens.I know I will be sending an e-mail
I went to my nephew’s high school water polo match in East Los Angeles yesterday. One of the young men on the other team, has been a problem for the last two years.
Two years ago, he played in a game when he was ineligible to do so. That could have been a major scandal, because he wasn’t a student at the school he was playing for, but we chose to keep it to ourselves. Even then his massive size and abilities made it clear to us he was over age. Two years later, he’s still on that team.
Yesterday he was wearing a swim suit with “MEXICO” across the back-side.
This guy plays way above the ability of the other kids on his team, and our team. And yesterday there was an additional guy that fit all the same descriptions. He scored over 60% of the other team’s goals.
Both were of one ethnicity. A third kid of another ethnicity was matched up with my nephew. He spent most of the game putting his arms clear around my nephew from behind, holding him, so he couldn’t participate in plays. At times he would put his arms and even his hands on my nephew’s shoulders and push him under water during play where the ball was right next to them.
The official didn’t make one call based on this kid’s actions. What he was doing was grounds to have him benched.
We have watched the coach of that team utter expletives to trash his own team members. That includes the F word too. On top of that he always seems to have three to six young high school girls hanging on him at the games.
This guy obviously teaches his team members to play dirty, and I’m not just referencing playing hard. He congratulates the guys coming back for a time out, who have been doing things over the top.
These guys swim over the team members with the ball. They slap/hit the other team players, even if they have the ball. The first guy I mentioned above, took his fist and hit my other nephew in the back last year.
After you’ve had a number of experiences like this yourself, and you’ve watch how our system is being gamed, you come to not be too bashful about calling a spade a spade.
Last year we went to a new school that replaced the Ambassador Hotel in Los Angeles. It’s named Robert Kennedy High School.
On our team, we have about a 90% presence of 50% or higher ancestry Hispanic team members. As we walked into the pool area, one of the other team’s members stated, “Look, they have entirely too many Whites on their team.”
RFK High is an approximately $500 million dollar edifice. It’s one of four I have visited in the immediate downtown Los Angeles area. And the students, probably 90% plus the children of illegal aliens.
After the game, the home team is supposed to stick around, shake the hands of the opposing team, and then clean up the pool area.
Most of the home team was gone by the time the game was over. The other players left immediately after the game. We, the visiting team rearranged the pool area to set it up for normal swimming.
Look, I don’t like taking race into consideration, but you know what, they are. My brother and I are both married to Hispanic women. I have other family members who are as well.
This isn’t about seeing a people as vile. It’s about understanding what some of them are doing is. If we can’t talk about issues with candor, we’re completely disarmed.
Imaging any former conflict or issue our nation faced, where the populace was “politically corrected” into not talking about the facts.
No ill will is held by me here. Take care.
which explains why these things happen
I think that’s a fair response. It would have involved getting our coach canned, and throwing the whole program up in the air. As a visiting family member, it wasn’t my call. I can understand your point of view. I can understand the other point of view as well.
I was not happy about it at the time.
I don’t wear a cape but I try to find the side that is honest and follows the rules.
I think you’d look nice in a cape. ;^)
I don’t disagree with your take on it in total.
The coach used poor judgment. It was a one time incident in the three years I was observing. The coach has since moved on.
I know it seems black and white, but you can’t disregard your family member’s take, and the very supportive team of kids in the program.
There are times when you can intervene, and there are times when you probably shouldn’t. I think this was an instance of the later, but I don’t have a problem with people coming to a different conclusion. I’m not always right.
Yes, I bet there were a lot of people who didn’t want to get involved
Have you ever been around the children of a family member, and thought they needed to be swatted?
Did you swat them, or did you confront the parents and read them the riot act so that they didn’t want to come to family events if you were there?
There are times in life when you can’t do what you would like to if you were the only person there.
If you don’t want to accept that, it’s okay with me.