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Which Obama Will Show Up Tonight?
Patriot Post ^ | 16 October, 2012 | Joan Fischer

Posted on 10/16/2012 2:01:45 PM PDT by joanie-f

One of the incidental, and not often discussed, aspects of the presidential and vice presidential debates is the candidates' change in demeanor and content from one debate to the next. Those sometimes dramatic changes offer us a powerful glimpse into the real character of the candidate.

Many pundits have been theorizing that Barack Obama will come out swinging in tonight's debate because he appeared so subdued and reticent in the last one. The public reacted badly to his subdued nature and reticence, and if there's anything that drives Barack Obama's personality and purported policy it is the public's perception of both.

I contend that American leftists, in general, are nothing more than empty suits waiting to be filled by personalities and policies that are popular with the electorate at any given time. Don't get me wrong. American leftists have their goals, the primary ones being (1) the amassing of government power at the expense of individual freedom, and (2) getting re-elected so as to continue the drive for (1). But, because the former goal is certainly not popular with freedom-loving people, the policies and beliefs that leftists espouse while constructing an avenue toward achieving it are entirely phony, and embraced, or not, depending upon what happens to be popular with the American electorate at any given time.

On the other hand, American conservatives have very basic beliefs in the need for limited government and the sanctity of individual liberties. They have no need to mask those beliefs because they are vastly popular with the American electorate. Therefore, conservatives tend to reveal, without the need for obfuscation and deceit, their beliefs and policies, and they tend to be consistent in expressing those beliefs. Their suits are filled with a core set of values, and policies aimed at furthering those values, and what fills their suits can therefore withstand the sunshine test.

Why are so many pundits, and so many Americans in general, speculating on how different Barack Obama's second debate behavior will be as compared to his first? Simply because a leftist's behavior is entirely variable. It changes with the political winds and poll results. It mirrors what the public wants to hear, how emphatically or dispassionately the public wants it stated, and how convenient it is to lie to cover authentic goals.

Obama knows full well that his "likeability" is the one factor that has always remained highly positive in the polls. Before the first debate, he and his handlers surely decided that he had to portray "likeability" more than all else in that first debate, so as not to lose support in that area and so as to affirm the majority of America's mistaken opinion of him as a likeable person. To that end, he tried to remain affable, unexcitable, emotionally level, and "nice". Little did he know that that performance would not go over well when matched with a debate opponent who is on fire to save America.

In the next debate, many are saying that he will be much more aggressive, maybe even angry. I happen to agree. Yet think about this: Mitt Romney will be no different than he was in Danville, simply because Mitt Romney is Mitt Romney, not an empty suit filled with whatever the prevailing political winds might require for election success.

I believe the same is true of Biden, although to a lesser degree. Biden is indeed a rude, arrogant, disrespectful man. But those traits were magnified exponentially last week because he was told that he had to "come out swinging" in his debate in order to counterbalance Obama's perceived lack of emotion and involvement in his. So Biden did just that. He resorted to theatrics. If there were to be a second vice presidential debate, he would tone the theatrics down as a result of the criticism he is receiving for his repulsive behavior. And yet Ryan would be pretty much a carbon copy of who he was last week: respectful, poised, even-tempered and dedicated to principle, simply because, with conservatives, what you see is what you get. With leftists, you get whatever the situation calls for.

Certainly Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan take on a certain persona depending upon where they are and who their audience is. They may wear a pair of jeans and a flannel shirt when appearing in rural Kansas. Or they may don a hard hat, for more than reasons of protection, when their audience is a group of construction workers in a suburban construction company. But their message, and their method of delivering it, remains consistent.

Not so with Barack Obama and Joe Biden.

Let's look at a fairly typical incident that occurred when Barack Obama was on the campaign trail in 2007. Economist Thomas Sowell recently referred to this incident in one of his brilliant syndicated columns. The event is one of literally hundreds of examples of the duplicitous character of the man serving as president of the United States. Every American voter should consider this incident, which is typical of Obama's depravity, before casting a ballot on November 6th. And every American should ask himself, "Can I envision Mitt Romney mirroring this kind of behavior?"

Back in June of 2007 Barack Obama delivered a speech at Hampton University in Virginia, a predominantly black school. In delivering that speech, he employed a ghetto-style accent the entire time, something that both he and Hillary Clinton have been known to do when addressing primarily black audiences. Such an accommodation is a far cry from wearing a pair of jeans when speaking in a rural area, or the like. I've never quite comprehended how the adoption of a ghetto accent seems to make what Obama or Clinton is saying somehow more acceptable. I would think it would be considered a major insult to an audience when a speaker conveniently adopts the audience's presumed method of speech, one that is completely foreign to the speaker himself. It smacks of blatant ingratiation. But I digress.

There stood Barack, using ghetto-talk, and telling his audience that many in congress are racist, at least in part, for the simple reason that, after hurricane Katrina devastated the Gulf Coast, congress failed to vote to suspend the Stafford Act, which requires communities receiving federal disaster aid to provide 10% of the needed money.

After 9/11, and after hurricane Andrew devastated south Florida, the Stafford Act was suspended because the need for aid was so great and the victims may have been unable to contribute the required 10% of funds. Obama told his audience that the people of Florida, and the people of New York, were considered "part of the American family", and yet the people of New Orleans, who are predominantly black, were not accorded the same suspension of the Stafford Act because "they don't care about [blacks] as much."

Is there any conceivable motive for bringing up this kind of racially divisive talk other than to create even more racial divisiveness, and to further one's election prospects? Add in the ghetto accent, and you have a perfect picture of a man trying to pit black against white, trying to convince blacks that they are victims of discrimination and oppression, and asserting that he will stand up for them if elected president.

As if all of the above weren't bad enough, if we look at the truth of Obama's claims, we discover that every salient point of his speech was a lie.

(1) Twelve days before Obama delivered this speech, the United States Senate, with Barack Obama present, had voted 80-14 to waive the Stafford Act requirement for the victims of hurricane Katrina. As a result, more federal money was poured into New Orleans than was poured into New York City after 9/11, and southern Florida after hurricane Andrew, combined.

(2) Only 14 senators voted against waiving the Stafford Act requirement for the victims of hurricane Katrina. One of those 14 was none other than Barack Obama. Using his own logic, it would appear that Barack Obama is an anti-black racist, while the huge majority of congress is not.

Yet there he stood at Hampton University, a mere twelve days after casting that vote to deny suspension of the act for New Orleans Katrina victims, telling a black audience that the vote did not pass, decrying that fact, claiming it as evidence of racism, and urging them to vote for him as a champion of equal rights.

I contend that Mitt Romney would never stoop to such devious, duplicitous levels for two reasons: (1) he has a personal moral code that would not allow him to do so, and (2) he does not have to employ blatant lies in order to incite a crowd to vote for him in response to angry, divisive, phony rhetoric.

Would Obama repeat the salient elements of that speech in tonight's debate? Of course not. The whole of America wouldn't stand for it. Barack Obama will surely be a "different man" in tonight's debate. Different from his 2007 speech at Hampton, and different from the Obama we saw in the first debate. Mitt Romney will be Mitt Romney. The question is, do we want a man of principle or a chameleon to be at the helm for the next four years, and to serve as the leader of the free world during possibly the most dangerous era in human history?


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012debates; biden; debate; election; lies; obama; president; romney; ryan

1 posted on 10/16/2012 2:01:51 PM PDT by joanie-f
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To: joanie-f

..the stuttering one


2 posted on 10/16/2012 2:05:51 PM PDT by Doogle ((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Czar; betty boop; tet68; Alamo-Girl; nicmarlo; ForGod'sSake

This is my last Patriot Post commentary before the election. May the best man win, for the sake of America and the free world.


3 posted on 10/16/2012 2:06:05 PM PDT by joanie-f (If you believe that God is your co-pilot, it might be time to switch seats ...)
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To: joanie-f

There’s only one Obama - the jackass.

And that’s who will be there.


4 posted on 10/16/2012 2:06:20 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (Thought Puzzle: Describe Islam without using the phrase "mental disorder" more than four times.)
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To: joanie-f

The lying one which starts his lies by saying “let me be clear” which is the prelude to everything that follows is a lie.


5 posted on 10/16/2012 2:10:38 PM PDT by PittsburghAfterDark
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To: joanie-f

Depends on whether they got that contact-lens TelePrompTer® working right or not.


6 posted on 10/16/2012 2:11:45 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the psychopath.)
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To: joanie-f

I’m guessing the angry liar.


7 posted on 10/16/2012 2:12:14 PM PDT by Tzimisce (THIS SUCKS)
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To: Tzimisce

The two year old.


8 posted on 10/16/2012 2:14:35 PM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Psycho_Bunny
Hell be mor engaged and smiling. He will look at Romney unlike last time, Rude.
9 posted on 10/16/2012 2:15:09 PM PDT by Morris70
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To: joanie-f

The smiling but angry slow talking but slick one who hates people.


10 posted on 10/16/2012 2:16:45 PM PDT by MIchaelTArchangel
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To: joanie-f
I would think it would be considered a major insult to an audience when a speaker conveniently adopts the audience's presumed method of speech, one that is completely foreign to the speaker himself. It smacks of blatant ingratiation.

No kidding. We had a big city bigwig come to rural area one time and dressed in what he thought was a "cowboy" outfit spoke to us in Western slang during a meeting. What a laugh.

11 posted on 10/16/2012 2:20:45 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono (My greatest fear is that when I'm gone my wife will sell my guns for what I told her I paid for them)
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To: joanie-f

Excellent work as always Joanie.
We approach a tipping point in the history of
our nation, more hinges on this election than
at any time in the past. Freedom or Socialism
is the choice we face.

I choose freedom.

Hope things are well in your state.
Here in Ga. in the rural parts I see few Obama signs
and quite a few Romney/Ryan. I’m sure if you went
into Atlanta the reverse would be true.

We vote and pray for the best
we arm for the worst.


12 posted on 10/16/2012 2:21:40 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: joanie-f

I think he will filibuster as much as possible. He has to use up as much time as possible.
He may try to make ourrageous claims about what Romney wants to do in order to force Romney to use up his time,too.


13 posted on 10/16/2012 2:23:56 PM PDT by Leep (Forward! to serfdom)
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To: tet68
Well said, Tet.

We live in a very conservative part of the country. There are not an abundance of yard signs, but, over the past few weeks, we've seen dozens of Romney/Ryan signs and only one Obama. Wish our area were representative of the enitre country.

Hoping all is well with you and yours, FRiend, and that we are celebrating come the morning of November 7th.

~ joanie

14 posted on 10/16/2012 2:25:17 PM PDT by joanie-f (If you believe that God is your co-pilot, it might be time to switch seats ...)
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To: Leep
Agreed. Romney needs to point out every one of Obama's convenient lies, but he has to do it in a way that doesn't appear meanspirited. That's a tall order, since the largest part of Obama's rhetoric is composed of fabricated figures and events, so Romney may have to spend most of his time refuting them, which will make him appear to be in major attack mode and will also prevent him from making his own points and describing his own policies.

Mitt is a diplomat and an astute debater, so I believe he will be able to accomplish what he has to, but he will be at a distinct disadvantage considering the baseless garbage that will no doubt be thrown at him.

~ joanie

15 posted on 10/16/2012 2:27:50 PM PDT by joanie-f (If you believe that God is your co-pilot, it might be time to switch seats ...)
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To: joanie-f
I expect the ‘robot’. He will react to specific ‘words’ as if programmed and will smile all night long. He might even tell Romney he loves him.
16 posted on 10/16/2012 2:28:34 PM PDT by Just mythoughts (Please help Todd Akin defeat Claire and the GOP-e send money!!!!!)
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To: massgopguy

Maybe he will find his inner Phil Rivers.


17 posted on 10/16/2012 2:33:47 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: joanie-f

Good post and good question about which obama shows up. I have complied a few options of my own.

Will obama be forced to stop ‘using’ his broad boyish smile during the debate?
Will he be forced to avoid looking down and any semblance of smirking?
Will he be forced look at his nemesis in the face ,as he speaks, even though his eyes burn with hatred?
Will he be forced to stop ‘mugging’ for the camera as he slowly shakes his head?
Will he go so far to actually try to imitate the Romney small but respectful smile and his presidential demeanor?

IMO, obama can’t show up as obama.


18 posted on 10/16/2012 2:35:32 PM PDT by RetSignman (REMEMBER THE 2010 MOVEMENT)
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To: joanie-f

celebrating come the morning of November 7th.

We must trust in Divine Providence as our forefathers,
and direct our will to that end.
This of course does not mean we don’t prepare for
the alternative, for we know socialism does not
give up power easily and “unexpected” disturbances
are part of their playbook.

We fight not for ourselves but our posterity
that our children will not have to live under
the yoke of heavy handed government.
There is no cause greater than this.

Your FRiend Tet.


19 posted on 10/16/2012 2:45:48 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: RetSignman

I expect his hair will be graying tonight...


20 posted on 10/16/2012 2:47:43 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: tet68

[I expect his hair will be graying tonight...]

LOL...I’ll be lookin’ for it, he’ll be pulling every trick out of his turban he can.


21 posted on 10/16/2012 3:39:00 PM PDT by RetSignman (REMEMBER THE 2010 MOVEMENT)
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To: Doogle

Uh-—uh——uhh

Grunts like a monkey.


22 posted on 10/16/2012 3:51:47 PM PDT by lightman (If the Patriarchate of the East held a state like the Vatican I would apply for political asylum.)
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To: lightman

we’ve heard it all before, same bull**** different day...some one must have told him it was a good speech...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZgQhnNRSuw&feature=player_embedded%0A


23 posted on 10/16/2012 4:18:52 PM PDT by Doogle ((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: joanie-f

There’s only one O. The marxist, incompetent, stuttering, big-eared failure.


24 posted on 10/16/2012 4:29:10 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: joanie-f

Thank you so much for sharing your insights, dear joanie-f!


25 posted on 10/17/2012 9:00:54 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: joanie-f; Alamo-Girl; MHGinTN; TXnMA; hosepipe; Jeff Head; metmom; tet68; xzins
Your last commentary ('til after the election)??? Well, dear sister Joanie, it is a splendid one. Thank you!

I gather you're sorta in the same situation that I'm in — to have reached the point where there's nothing more to say. I feel I'm in a kind of Limbo, not even knowing how to think of the future, let alone plan for it. And will not know until November 7th at least.

My hubbie B. predicts that Romney will win in a landslide, in both popular and electoral votes. But I'm not in the prediction business these days. I'll take the advice of Capt. Jack Aubrey: "Never predict the outcome of a battle. You only tempt fate."

On the merits, Romney wins. On the cheating, Obama might yet win. The story today about Republicans in Florida receiving official notices that their voting eligibility was under challenge by the Florida Secretary of State (so they better resolve the difficulty before they try to vote; otherwise, they might be subject to criminal prosecution) is an example of what I mean. Considering the Seattle postmark of these letters, the senders were clearly involved in mail fraud — a criminal activity the Feds usually punish rather severely — on top of voter fraud (ditto).

This particular problem was detected, nipped in the bud. But that only begs the question: How may other examples of electoral cheating are still out there that have not been detected?

So I'm on my knees, praying for God's Will and Truth to prevail....

If by God's Will Romney prevails on November 7th, then I think we instantly ought to have a FReeper celebration of Praise and Thanksgiving to God on that day!!!

Yet I'm aware that not all my Christian brethren would consider a Romney victory a cause for celebration.

To my dear brothers and sisters in Christ who feel this way, may I simply ask you: Do you consider it preferable that a sitting president who routinely lies to the American people — though his teeth, seemingly with impunity, without resort to conscience, to the purpose of building an ideological fantasy land that repudiates everything the Constitution and the American people have historically stood for — NOT be summarily removed from Office? On the grounds that he is morally unfit to serve?

To me, the greatest insult is that 0bama constantly, predictable acts against the notion that We the People of the United States of America are a people "under God," in Whom we trust. From these simple foundational ideas, America has become the freest, most prosperous, most innovative and creative society on earth. Not to mention that we as a nation have tried to extend the blessings of liberty to others around the globe; we stand with "the common man" against the dictators; we have been unsparing with our charity and goodwill WRT other nations, even (probably) those who don't "deserve" it.

Anyhoot dear Joanie, I'm just hunkered down for now. I don't know how this "fortune cookie" will finally crumble.

But I know that all is in God's hands. I hope and pray that He will ever bless America and her People.

And also you and all your dear ones, dear sister in Christ!

26 posted on 10/25/2012 4:55:39 PM PDT by betty boop (We are led to believe a lie when we see with, and not through the eye. — William Blake)
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To: joanie-f; Alamo-Girl; betty boop; Whosoever

[ This is my last Patriot Post commentary before the election. May the best man win, for the sake of America and the free world. ]

America will get what they deserve.. rarely do they get better than they deserve, like with Reagan.. very rarely.. It is almost never said but we have now the president we deserve.. America deserves Obama.. “WE” have murdered more than 75,000,000 babies.. Obama is just punishment..

Republicans have allowed socialism and anarchy to be taught in our Universitys and even in our high schools.. and allowed Civics and American History NOT TO BE taught in those places.. What could go WRONG!.. America has been dumbed down immensely.. Republicans allowed it.. Not all republicans but MOST OF THEM..

Republicans choosing the inventor of Romney-care to run against the inventor of Obama-care is a Cartoon.. and totally rejecting ALL Conservative candidates.. all of them.. in the primary’s.. I don’t blame you for not choosing one of the other of the candidates for President.. Who knows what a liberal republican from Mass. will do..

Obama almost always says one thing and does another(the opposite) AND gets away with it.. Romney is not dumb he may do the same.. Except for throwing the republicans a few bones.. You know... like George Bush did..

America is being punished by Obama.. could be they(we) will also be punished by Romney.. Hope not.. BUT!!!....


27 posted on 10/25/2012 5:25:29 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: betty boop
So I'm on my knees, praying for God's Will and Truth to prevail...

I am joined in your prayer, dearest sister in Christ, and I am certain His Will and Truth will prevail.

Thank you so very much for all your wonderful insights!

28 posted on 10/26/2012 9:33:51 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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