Skip to comments.**LIVE THREAD** Second Presidential Debate - Mitt Romney vs Barack Obama (9:00-10:30 p.m. Eastern)
Posted on 10/16/2012 2:13:41 PM PDT by RKBA DemocratEdited on 10/16/2012 3:04:16 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
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True, but, I was thinking of a Republican, or maybe a group of Republicans, who would “surprise” the “average” voters by making such a statement, and would almost have to be heard. VP Cheney comes to mind, but I don’t know if he has the “weight” with the MSM by himself to make a big splash. Maybe Cheney + Condi Rice + Rumsfeld + Gingrich + Bolton? Perhaps throw in a couple Governors like Christie or Haley. Maybe Fred Thompson would join in (background from Watergate, and “gravitas”). So it’s mostly people have been on the inside and know how it works (or should work), and then have a couple types in there (Gingrich, Christie) who can take Obambi MSM types and twist them into pretzels at the news conference.
I do not disagree with you on that, but, it also true that Bush grew the Gov’t too much, created too much additional debt, etc. Those things certainly contributed to a vulnerable economy. Romney could hit Obama on all that, your and my points both. With regard to Fed. gov’t growth and debt, Romney can argue effectively that Obama is Bush on steroids, and warn of the dire consequences...
Yes, that's my point. It seems to be particularly true of services. The gov't steps in to "help" ostensibly poorer citizens, and the next thing you know, no one but the rich can afford that service without help!
The gov't screws up the supply - demand equation, and gains control and political power by doing so.
Some forms of subsidies, like Ag subsidies, don't work quite that way with respect to consumer prices, though it's certain they function to hide the true cost of the subsidized item and transfer it to others in the form of taxes. Plus, the factors of political power and control also still apply.
Gov't inflates prices in many other ways, of course. I looked at new and then, of necessity, used car prices recently, and nearly fell over. (Even after a lot of the "deals" and discounts were applied.) You can't tell me that the gov't pouring money in, and Cash for Clunkers taking hundreds of thousands of perfectly good cars off the road, not to mention a host of gov't regulations and requirements, did not artificially run up auto prices.
Not everyone is capable of keeping a high-skilled job, and Barack Obama is the poster child for that little factoid.
Heh, well, the 2nd part of that aside, that is an EXCELLENT point. There are many people, maybe most people, most of them wonderful people, who could not with all the training and education in the world, do the job I do. In turn, I probably could not do the jobs some of them do -- I've taken brief stints on a production line, and it's ok for a few days or so, if need be, but if I had to do it for years, I might come apart at the seams! Other jobs I simply do not have the physical attributes to do. Or, if my job involved lying, I'd fail miserably. Or worse. :-)
There are many jobs in manufacturing, and not necessarily "high tech", that can pay far better than flipping burgers at MacDonalds. Yes, that's even in competition with the Chinese, if the playing field is more nearly level, and if the company is "on its toes". Yet President Obama would, apparently, give up on those manufacturing jobs for people who are well suited to do them. What and where does that leave such a person? (Probably flipping burgers beside the engineer who lost his job too, because Obama won't fight for the *expletive deleted* jobs, and now virtually all the manufacturing of that product, and even many of the engineering & technical jobs, have gone to China. I'm all too familiar with that story...)
The issue was the Rose Garden statement, which Romney stupidly overreacted to, and acted like a Democrat. It was a BAD moment. While Obama did not call it a terrorist act, he used the word “terror,” while talking about. The parsing that has to be done to say Romney was right is a major waste of energy.
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The latest, of course, was the “go to the script, Candy”.
You are correct, they stop at nothing.
Good catch with this article. Obama lied from the get go, and we have plenty of evidence to support the claim. Nobody saw that stupid video, it was the pawn for the coverup.
Whatever. Have a great Friday and a great weekend.
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