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CROWLEY'S FALSE FACT CHECK SAVES PRESIDENT, DERAILS DEBATE
Breitbart.com ^ | 10-16-2012 | John Nolte

Posted on 10/16/2012 8:52:50 PM PDT by bronxville

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To: Fiji Hill
They had the wrong Crowley.

What is the difference between Aleister Crowley and Candy Crowley?

101 posted on 10/17/2012 5:31:40 AM PDT by bigheadfred
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To: LibFreeUSA

Exactly - it’s almost like it was pre-planned right?

That Obama knew, of course, Libya would come up - so they strategized this false narrative to throw Romney and everyone else off.

I think, in a way, Candy may have been duped.

I suspect they sent her an out of context quote from that speech and she probably accepted it at face value without reviewing the entire footage.


102 posted on 10/17/2012 5:32:30 AM PDT by Scotswife
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To: chessplayer

She is a hag but now Libya will be that talking point and help Romney. The media and barry cannot square a circle


103 posted on 10/17/2012 5:39:46 AM PDT by italianquaker (The 47 pct need to pay their fair share)
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To: bronxville

There was one point in the debate that 0bama referred to the terrorists as “FOLKS.” It was like he could not even bear to say the word terrorist. He said we are going to go after these FOLKS. If someone can find that quote in the transcript...I think it says it all!


104 posted on 10/17/2012 5:53:53 AM PDT by Boardwalk
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To: Scotswife; P-Marlowe

I am, first of all, appalled that anyone would set rules for a “town hall” in which the moderator gets to choose the questions.

There is absolutely no reason the “undecideds” couldn’t be numbered, and then numbers pulled randomly out of a bowl.

Instead, we get a question: “How are you different from President Bush?”

Besides being an absolutely stupid question, it is such a partisan question that if defies reason.

Moreover, that became Obama’s question, too. So, we have a question designed completely to put one side on the defensive, and then the other side gets to deal with it at the outset from the offensive. It is an unconscionable, extremely biased approach to a “neutral” debate.

At a minimum, Obama should have been asked “How are you different from Jimmy Carter’s presidency?”

Instead we have the referee forcing the Packers to kick off from the end zone, and then that same referee awards the ball to the Bengals first and goal from the one.

If any one question demonstrated extreme unfairness in the setting itself, it was that one.


105 posted on 10/17/2012 6:06:35 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: swpa_mom
Now, now, let’s not talk down the wonderful “undecided” voters.......especially the “undecided” voter whose question to Romney was about Bush.

She was definitely an Obot plant. Trying desperately to put Romney in a box.

If this wasn't evidence of a mostly rigged debate I don't know what was.

106 posted on 10/17/2012 6:11:37 AM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: novemberslady
Who makes these decisions, and when are you going to out them as the plants that they are?

I would like to know who vetted these "undecideds"

What questions where asked of them, who did they vote for in the previous election, what is their party affiliation, do they work for the government, are they on the dole, etc,etc,etc.

Someone needs to investigate the woman that asked the questions about Bush. She was so far in the tank for the socialists/democRats it was oozing from her pores. Nothing but a sham in my opinion. Just pathetic.

107 posted on 10/17/2012 6:18:53 AM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: bronxville
My question is, how was the moderator so confident about what Obama said in the Rose Garden over a month ago? So confident, in fact, that she stuck her nose in and interrupted Governor Romney. Does she have every speech Obama has given memorized?

Or was she provided with a transcript by the Obama campaign in advance of the debate.

Was this a set up?

Obama planned to say that he called it a terrorist attack on the 12th and Crowley was "prepped" to support that lie?

In fact, didn't Obama point at Crowley and say, "read the transcript?"

108 posted on 10/17/2012 6:20:13 AM PDT by ConservativeLawyer (We own this country.)
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To: American Constitutionalist; Doogle
This just kicks the can farther down the road of news cycles for Benghazi and this will stay in the news even up until the election and after.

This is the last thing they wanted.....

You are both SO CORRECT!

109 posted on 10/17/2012 6:23:32 AM PDT by b4its2late (A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: newzjunkey

“I’m glad to see my warning Crowley would ADVOCATE for Obama was on target. I’d have preferred to have been surprised.”

A comment of mine from yesterday;
““She gets to pick which pre-screened questions will be asked,”

So,,,, she and her team have been working frantically to figure out follow-up questions to slam Romney. Great.”

I think all of us knew this would happen. I didn’t watch.


110 posted on 10/17/2012 6:25:06 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael
I found it startling that Crowley just happened to have the text from that specific speech on the table in front of her and had time to read it and determine that The Messiah was correct in the very brief time between The Messiah speaking and Romney questioning what he had just heard.

Kind of odd, real odd.

111 posted on 10/17/2012 6:26:09 AM PDT by Flint
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To: LibFreeUSA

Crowley, during her explanation about the Libya “fact check” said that she anticipated the Libya question (obviously, since she got to choose the questions that were used— it would be hard NOT to anticiate the question) and so she boned up on the topic. However, she didn’t come close to getting the quote of Obama at the Rose Garden statement on 9/12 right. She needs to bone up on her boning up.


112 posted on 10/17/2012 6:29:54 AM PDT by NCLaw441
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To: Scotswife
"Exactly - it’s almost like it was pre-planned right?"

EXACTLY!!!!!

I smell 'COLLUSION', as in 'PRE-PLANNED' and 'COORDINATED' collusion!!!!

Think about it...... - She 'picks' LIBYA question

- Obama already knows that Romney is going to bring the Bhengazi attack up, so he has (pre-Debate) PREPARED to DOUBLE-DOWN and answer emphatically that he called it an "act of terror" in the Rose Garden (when everyone knows he did not do so till 14 days later).

- Obama (and Crowley) HAVE TO ASSUME that Romney will be 'shocked' to hear that, and Romney will claim that Obama DID NOT SAY THAT!

- Crowley then (on cue) THROWS UP THE 'TRANSCRIPT' that OBAMA did say "terror" in the transcript, without even bothering to show the audience that she in fact READ IT right then and there!

113 posted on 10/17/2012 6:34:43 AM PDT by LibFreeUSA
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To: bluerose

Why is it that there is never a Republican moderator? 4 out of 4 liberal moderators is absurd.

Mitt still won big in my opinion.


114 posted on 10/17/2012 6:34:48 AM PDT by bluerose ("Equal opportunity, not equal outcome" ~Paul Ryan)
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To: bronxville

Interesting that all those posters saying how great a job Cowley did in the second debate thread are absent from this thread...


115 posted on 10/17/2012 6:38:18 AM PDT by Double Tap
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To: LibFreeUSA

He was so smug wasn’t he?

“Could you say that louder Candy?”

That was absolutely pre-planned


116 posted on 10/17/2012 6:38:52 AM PDT by Scotswife
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To: bluerose

I agree that Romney won, if the measure is (as it should be) who gained more votes because of the debate. One can argue that as Krauthammer said, “on points” Obama may have won (not conceding that point, just noting it). But the ultimate goal of any debate is to sway voters to your side. I don’t think anyone who was undecided before last night will vote for Obama because of his performance, but many will vote for Romney because of his.

Obama laid out no new plans for a proposed 2nd term. He was wrong on Libya. His attacks on Romney largely fell flat. True, he was awake for this debate and thus his performance was greatly improved. Pretty low threshold for claiming a win, I’d say.


117 posted on 10/17/2012 6:40:06 AM PDT by NCLaw441
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To: Flint
RE: "I found it startling that Crowley just happened to have the text from that specific speech on the table in front of her and had time to read it and determine that The Messiah was correct in the very brief time between The Messiah speaking and Romney questioning what he had just heard."

That is a great point.. Obama commanded, "Get the text." A microsecond later the "nonpartisan" moderator announced that the text proved that Romney was mistaken -- the "terror" was in like the 16th paragraph, the "nonpartisan" moderator must have had it already high-lighted.

It will be interesting to see if any "talking heads" in the MSM say anything about that.

118 posted on 10/17/2012 6:40:29 AM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: bronxville
Candy is FOS. Just an aggressive, average, mouthy fat girl the management keeps to look good in the "social justice" statistics.

What ever became of EXCELLENCE in American choices/decisions?

119 posted on 10/17/2012 6:42:16 AM PDT by Rapscallion
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To: wardaddy
that slattern Crowley should be ashamed

More accurately, she should be fired. A journalist's first job is to be accurate. It's not like Libya hasn't been in the news, despite the liberal media's attempt to hide it. It is not unreasonable to expect the moderator of a Presidential debate to have the known facts of the matter in hand when the issue arises in debate.

If we had a press in this country that was the least bit interested in neutral reporting, Crowley's resignation would be on the news director's desk this morning.

120 posted on 10/17/2012 6:48:48 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg ("Don't be afraid to see what you see." -- Ronald Reagan)
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To: bronxville

Ask why the most popular man in mass media is never considered as a moderator? Rush Limbaugh would keep the focus on the real issues and hold the feet to the fire.


121 posted on 10/17/2012 6:49:26 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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To: doc1019

It’s coming back to haunt them. Romney and Ryan have done a great job turning this to our advantage and in the process exposing the MSM for thy lying propagandists they are.


122 posted on 10/17/2012 6:49:31 AM PDT by generally (Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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To: bronxville
You're doing a heckuva job there, Candy!


123 posted on 10/17/2012 6:52:44 AM PDT by The G Man (The NY Times did "great harm to the United States" - President George W. Bush 6/26/06)
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To: All

"Take my wife... please!"

124 posted on 10/17/2012 6:54:05 AM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: nutmeg

They are all earth-whores and pimps of the lowest commonalities.


125 posted on 10/17/2012 6:55:30 AM PDT by GOPsterinMA (The Glove don't fit, but it's better than a burqa.)
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To: The Good Doctor

Some do with bits and pieces, but not like how they reported Watergate, Abu-Grapes.


126 posted on 10/17/2012 6:55:49 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: doc1019

I know! I was saying the same thing today! She was obviously extremely biased and this was known well before the debate. Why is this allowed?! Isn’t there anybody around that can be trusted to be fair? Why is it always a lefty moderating these debates!


127 posted on 10/17/2012 6:57:54 AM PDT by Mrs. Frogjerk
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To: bronxville

Watching it unfold on live TV it did not seem right. It was awkwardly and comfortably scripted, and too smooth in execution. But watching it on replay the agenda filled manipulation was obvious. It appears Candy Crowley and CNN together with the Obama Administration scripted the Libyan injection into the Presidential Debate.I’m not just talking about Candy Crowley interjecting on behalf of President Obama, and interrupting Mitt Romney, I mean the whole segment was a set up. So we did a little research:

Candy Crowley told Erin Burnett on CNN’s show Out Front, Monday Night 10/15, that she had collected the questions from the invited and vetted debate audience at Hofstra University and was reviewing them. This was Monday on the 7pm broadcast of Erin Burnett.

When the question on Libya was asked by audience member Kerry Ladka, he prefaced the question by saying:

….this question actually comes from my, err, um, a brain trust of my friends at Global Telecom Supply in Mineola yesterday, we were sitting around talking about Libya…

If Candy Crowley already had the audience questions assembled the day before, how could Kerry Ladka and his brain trust friends have been writing one?

http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2012/10/17/cnn-and-the-obama-administration-weapons-of-misdirection/


128 posted on 10/17/2012 6:57:54 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: KevinB

Yes, Romney held his ground when he was out numbered 3-1 ...


129 posted on 10/17/2012 6:59:30 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: KevinB
Now Romney can hammer away this Administration's SUPER FAILED foreign policy.
The liberals/MSM thought that they could cheat but now Romney can say in the next debate that even Buzzard Crowley admitted that Romney was right that Obama did not say until 14 days after the attack on the US Embassy in Benghazi was not a terrorist attack but the result of some video.
Their plan to cheat failed and backfired on them.

Schadenfreude
130 posted on 10/17/2012 7:05:42 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: bigheadfred

They both take orders from the same Boss.


131 posted on 10/17/2012 7:08:58 AM PDT by lightman (If the Patriarchate of the East held a state like the Vatican I would apply for political asylum.)
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To: P-Marlowe
" Nobody will remember the debate. What they will remember is that Obama lied and the moderator tried to give him cover by calling Romney a liar and failed. By admitting later that Romney was right, she has effectively been forced to call Obama a liar. "

BINGO !

But I might add that this was Joe Biden redux part II.
He was disruptive, rude, loud, interrupting Romney.


132 posted on 10/17/2012 7:10:07 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: bronxville

How was last night’s “debate” like Halloween?

They both feature Candy & Creepy Crowleys...


133 posted on 10/17/2012 7:10:44 AM PDT by mikrofon (Blame Mrs. Mik ;)
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To: bronxville

Romney was in the process of setting Obama up on the terror call on Lybia. He was making sure he had it down that Obama was on record as calling it terrorism initially, by his own admission, and then was going to absolutely ream him on the following two weeks of a changed story when the UN Ambassador went out, when Obama himself went out, when Hillary went out, Jake Harney and so many others and insisted that it was because of that video...and then ask him simply, why?

Why did you change your story, Mr. President? Why did you mislead and lie to the American people for two weeks? Could it have been political? It sure looks like it to the rest of us.

It would have been a great stroke...but the moderator derailed it. That’s what really happened there. But it will all come out now as people are talking about it everywhere and they cannot hide from it. Monday will set it straight again.

The most disrespectful VP Debate in History
http://www.jeffhead.com/vpdebate.htm


134 posted on 10/17/2012 7:16:03 AM PDT by Jeff Head ( Freedom is not free, never has been, never will be (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: jersey117

How about a polished turd bounce ?


135 posted on 10/17/2012 7:17:08 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: GCC Catholic

I watched some of the CNN coverage after the debate to see how the libs were going to distort this as a win for Obama. I was not dissappointed they were have a collective orgasim.


136 posted on 10/17/2012 7:23:02 AM PDT by Americanexpat
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To: bronxville

I know this post does nothing to add to the conversation but I just need to vent: THAT PISSED ME OFF! I am so disgusted by the media this go around. She lied and gave the debate to O. Even we Romney backers knew it was an ugly moment when it happened and it turned it Obama’s way...with clapping led by Michelle. Damnit!

Ok, done.


137 posted on 10/17/2012 7:25:43 AM PDT by Joe27
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To: browniexyz
Romney get's his next chance in the next debate on FOREIGN POLICY to open the door even wider and at the same time expose the media for what it is.
Also ? with Crowley's admission now Obama can't say " I didn't say that " .... and Obama will be caught in another lie, and lying in the next debate.
Did you see Obama's face when the Libya question was asked ?
He looked like a crook caught red handed with the goods with nowhere to run or hide.
138 posted on 10/17/2012 7:25:48 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: devolve

139 posted on 10/17/2012 7:26:08 AM PDT by CodeToad (Padme: "So this is how liberty dies... with thunderous applause.")
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To: conservative sympathizer

I didn’t miss it. I heard her say it on CNN after the debate when she was sitting around talking to the other liberal liars discussing her performance last night.


140 posted on 10/17/2012 7:26:14 AM PDT by Americanexpat
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To: chessplayer

Take off the blinders libs. Candy Crowley was Barack’s substitute teleprompter.... Regardless, even the MSM/Liberal media has the debate going to Romney or at worst a draw.


141 posted on 10/17/2012 7:29:05 AM PDT by mandaladon (Hit the road Obama!)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael

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- My “GUESS” graphic could - or should - change the social interactions and futures of all young sane Americans.....

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142 posted on 10/17/2012 7:52:30 AM PDT by devolve ( ---- ---- ---- -CHEESEBURGER_CHEESEBURGER_CHEESEBURGER- ---- ---- ---- ---- - John Belusi ----)
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To: bronxville

Yes, she’s there to be a moderator and not debtor. Audience cheered - proofed they chose their audience. Her actions plus the audience cheering exposed the socialist agenda. Romney was in enemy territory when it should be impartial. The GOP must speak of this!


143 posted on 10/17/2012 7:53:50 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: bronxville

” Romney’s broader point is accurate — that it took the administration days to concede that the assault on the U.S. mission in Benghazi was an “act of terrorism” that appears unrelated to initial reports of anger at a video that defamed the prophet Muhammad. (The reporting is contradictory on whether there was indeed a demonstration outside the mission.) By our count, it took eight days for an administration official to concede that the deaths in Libya were the result of a “terrorist attack.” “ http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/fact-checking-the-second-presidential-debate/2012/10/17/d6d3a7b4-17a3-11e2-a55c-39408fbe6a4b_blog.html


144 posted on 10/17/2012 8:02:47 AM PDT by mandaladon (Hit the road Obama!)
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To: Hulka

I thought it was a set-up at the time, they knew it would come up, and were prepared. She was quick to stop Romney in his tracks, and whipped out the transcript as he spoke while at the same time obama was saying - Candy show the transcript. She held it up and then proceeded to lie with Obama saying at the same time - show it again Candy and at that time - Michelle started clapping.

Romney was railroaded for sure!


145 posted on 10/17/2012 8:03:41 AM PDT by bronxville (Margaret Sanger - “We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population,)
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To: All

I should have added that when Michelle started clapping, the “undecideds” joined in...who chose the townhall people? Luntz would have done a much better job!


146 posted on 10/17/2012 8:06:57 AM PDT by bronxville (Margaret Sanger - “We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population,)
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To: The G Man

147 posted on 10/17/2012 8:29:15 AM PDT by red-dawg
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To: bronxville

Yeah. Romney had to debate both Jabba, The Hut and the Odongo at the same time with one hand tied behind his back. At the worst, it came out a tie, maybe even a win.


148 posted on 10/17/2012 8:45:16 AM PDT by lgjhn23
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To: DoughtyOne; All

The Herald is a right of center newspaper, owned(or was owned) by Rupert. I read it daily in high school, and college.
Ted Kennedy actually passed a law that would force Murdoch to sell either this paper, or a TV station he owned in Boston.

The next morning, the front page of the Herald stated in HUGE bold print.

” Was it something I said, FAT BOY ? “


149 posted on 10/17/2012 8:53:49 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: doc1019

I agree with your comment about why Republican candidates agree to engage in debates where a clearly biased advocate for the Dems is selected as the moderator. The selection of moderator should be an absolute pre-condition to agree to any debate. If the other side won’t agree, then don’t debate. I’d frankly prefer the format that was used on Crossfire, where you’d get a partisan journalist on each side who would question the candidates. Romney’s got to stop playing by the marquis de queens bury rules. He didn’t hesitate to get into the dirt in the Republican primaries but he’s been a wuss in the presidential campaign.


150 posted on 10/17/2012 9:06:59 AM PDT by littleharbour
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