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CNN post-debate poll breakdown....WOW!!! (vanity)
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Posted on 10/16/2012 9:06:45 PM PDT by God luvs America

watching CNN...their initial "scientific poll" had obama winning the debate 46%-39%...but then the fun really started...


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CNN POLL POST DEBATE BREAKDOWN!!!

Romney wins strong leader over obama 48% to obama 45%

who attacked more? 49% obozo -35% Romney...

who would do a better job on the economy? 58% Romney 40% Obozo

Who would do a better job on health car? 49% Romney - 46% Obama

Who would better handle Taxes? 51% Romney 44% Obama

Who would better handle the deficit??? 59% Romney 36% Obama

John King CNN just said if these numbers don't dramatically change Romney wins the election!!!!

1 posted on 10/16/2012 9:06:45 PM PDT by God luvs America
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To: God luvs America

Romney won but not getting crushed.

Obama had to decisively trounce Romney, and all he could manage to do was avoid being stomped on by Romney, partially as a result of Crowley literally throwing herself at Mitt when he brought up Benghazi.


2 posted on 10/16/2012 9:09:12 PM PDT by Shadow44
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To: God luvs America

John King on Cnn’s panel just admitted that according to CNN’s “scientific” poll the people polled said Romney won on the questions about who would best handle the economy, healthcare. and taxes. He said that if that translated to the public viewers out there then Romney will win the election.


3 posted on 10/16/2012 9:09:13 PM PDT by badpacifist (I think you know better)
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To: Shadow44

Oops! That should read “BY not getting crushed”.


4 posted on 10/16/2012 9:10:32 PM PDT by Shadow44
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To: Shadow44

Oh but she admits now she was wrong in correcting Romney because he was right.
Nice huh?


5 posted on 10/16/2012 9:12:50 PM PDT by snarkytart
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To: God luvs America

funny that they think Romney basically came across better as a leader and has better ideas yet say Obama won the debate?
oooooooooookay.


6 posted on 10/16/2012 9:14:24 PM PDT by snarkytart
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To: Shadow44

Romney had a lot of good points tonight, and a few that either were missed opportunities or a little too stiff. Overall still a very good night. If he had been allowed to make the charge on terror without interuption, and had scored a big point on that, I think this election wold have been over. That moment, led me to feel like Romney fell short and a little too repetitive in the second half of the night. If I were to score halfs, I’d say Romney won decisively in the first half and Obama probably performed slightly better in the second half.


7 posted on 10/16/2012 9:15:33 PM PDT by ilgipper
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To: God luvs America

Hey John King there isn’t enough time to turn many of those numbers around. Especially, 58% believe Romney would do a better job with the economy...stupid.


8 posted on 10/16/2012 9:15:39 PM PDT by Leep (Forward! to serfdom)
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To: All

Candy effed up but I imagine the Obambots will ignore the retraction and role with the initial decision until it doesn’t work..


9 posted on 10/16/2012 9:16:26 PM PDT by newnhdad (Where will you be during the Election Riots of 2012/2013?)
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To: God luvs America

Hey John King there isn’t enough time to turn many of those numbers around. Especially, 58% believe Romney would do a better job with the economy...stupid.


10 posted on 10/16/2012 9:16:33 PM PDT by Leep (Forward! to serfdom)
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To: snarkytart

Sure. Some people judge this like a high school debating contest and score it on points. “Winning ugly” can work in sports, but not in politics. People may think that Obama “debated” better, but still conclude they’d rather have romney as president.


11 posted on 10/16/2012 9:16:54 PM PDT by Arthurio
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To: newnhdad

Candy lied .it was no mistake.


12 posted on 10/16/2012 9:21:11 PM PDT by rurgan (Sunset all laws at 4 years.China is destroying U.S. ability to manufacture,makes everything)
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To: God luvs America

TheOne looked angry, so angry. He’s going to have to come out more forcefully in the next debate. Chrissy Tingles may call it to racist to notice theOne’s anger, but it was just so palpable.


13 posted on 10/16/2012 9:21:17 PM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (A half-truth is a complete lie)
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To: Sgt_Schultze

Did you see some of the faces he was making?


14 posted on 10/16/2012 9:23:07 PM PDT by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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To: snarkytart

Romney got mugged by an angry black man on stage. I suppose that’s the media’s definition of Obama “winning” the debate. On substance, Romney was the clear winner.


15 posted on 10/16/2012 9:24:10 PM PDT by libh8er
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To: Shadow44
" partially as a result of Crowley literally throwing herself at Mitt when he brought up Benghazi. "

So Buzzard Crowley's former job was a bouncer at a bar ?
16 posted on 10/16/2012 9:24:16 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: Arthurio

High school debate judges:

They don’t KNOW how often Bath-House Barry lied tonight because they haven’t kept up with the REAL world...

If they DID, Romney would be the winner hands down.


17 posted on 10/16/2012 9:24:42 PM PDT by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: snarkytart
" yet say Obama won the debate? "

Just like the first debate, but, just like a cheap deck of cards this will to all fall down and Romney will be the declared winner at the end of the week in the view of public opinion inspite of what the MSM says or thinks.
18 posted on 10/16/2012 9:27:13 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: God luvs America
Perhaps people are ignoring the biased opinions of those in the media and have heard enough empty rhetoric.

The MSM narrative may not be able to prop up Obama any longer.

19 posted on 10/16/2012 9:27:36 PM PDT by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: libh8er

“Romney got mugged by an angry black man on stage.”


I would love to call you out on this and tell you how wrong you are. A few weeks ago I would have. However, if I do that tonight, I lose big. Sadly, you are right. I mean that sincerely, because it is very sad that this is what it has come to at this point. And clearly we are looking at a man who cares NOTHING about any American, and cares only about keeping a job he has already shown he does not deserve.


20 posted on 10/16/2012 9:34:27 PM PDT by NewJerseyGOP
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To: Sgt_Schultze

“TheOne looked angry, so angry.”

This guy is mean and stupid! W/O his TOTUS he is unable to put out a cogent thought, let alone a string of them. He is truly the “affirmative action” president. He’s Eddie Murphy in the “Distinguished Gentleman” with out being clever. Thanks GWB for opening the door for him. Romney was right tonight when he contrasted himself to Bush. I guess we will see how he does as president, but I think he does know what has to be done. Now if we could only get the Senate, get rid of Boehner and McConnell and install some real leaders in the Congress we could see the country take off.


21 posted on 10/16/2012 9:35:09 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: God luvs America

So, Obama won the debate in the worst possible way to win the debate by winning ugly. It will play to the MSNBC crowd only and the focus remains on his record or lack there of. Not to mention the story is going to be about the debate mod becoming a ref and botching the call. This night shouldn’t change the race all that much.


22 posted on 10/16/2012 9:35:09 PM PDT by goodolemr
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To: God luvs America

People tend to focus too much on the process and not the product. The media wants to focus on who “won” the debate. But the whole purpose of the debate is for the candidates to persuade people to vote for them. That is the goal. Not scoring points.

Romney did just fine. I think we will find over the next few days that he persuaded many more half-hearted 0bama supporters to switch their vote to him than 0bama persuaded Romney supporters. And I believe he won over more of the undecideds too.


23 posted on 10/16/2012 9:36:00 PM PDT by Truth is a Weapon (Truth, it hurts so good.)
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To: God luvs America

I just looked at internals. Key was 73% said 0bama did “better than expected.” The crushingly low expectations gave him the “win” from the poll respondents.


24 posted on 10/16/2012 9:37:23 PM PDT by Arthurio
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To: God luvs America

Crowley worked hard to make sure Obama came out ahead on initial poll results.

Her dirty work paid off for Obama.

Her retraction (or correction) is small potatoes compared to the impact of her basically saying Mitt was lying in front of 70 million people.


25 posted on 10/16/2012 9:39:01 PM PDT by Iron Munro (Psalm 109:8 "Let his days be few, and let another take his office.")
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To: NewJerseyGOP
And clearly we are looking at a man who cares NOTHING about any American, and cares only about keeping a job he has already shown he does not deserve.

You nailed it right there. I agree 100%. I also believe that the only reason Barry wants to win in November is so he won't be embarrassed by being a one termer. He really isn't interested in a second term. JMO.

26 posted on 10/16/2012 9:41:10 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (This is America! Being dead is no excuse not to vote!!!)
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To: libh8er
Romney got mugged by an angry black man on stage.

If Trayvon Martin had a skinny, jug-eared, thin skinned, incompetent,
mulatto communist for a father he would look like Barack Obama.


27 posted on 10/16/2012 9:47:32 PM PDT by Iron Munro (Psalm 109:8 "Let his days be few, and let another take his office.")
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To: snarkytart; All

Same as it ever was. The best thing I noticed was that Mitt was Jobs, Jobs, Jobs. Every time I left the room & came back, he was talking about jobs again.

0bama was counting on people not paying attention, or not remembering, what he said right after Benghazi. It’s too late in the election season for that (imo)
I wonder how many people immediately thought of Fast & Furious when that gal asked about AKs. (Most of these questioners were “undecided” like I’m a size 6)

The thing that ticked me off the most was during the illegal immigration discussion- that little timer box that counted down on the screen to the right (our right) of their heads. Romney *promptly* wrapped it up & yielded. Not only did 0bama go on for over 4 minutes, the little box disappeared after it hit 00:00

Romney did great & 0 didn’t do himself any favors. 0 lied through his teeth & anyone who had been halfway paying attention knew it. (I didn’t think Candy Crowley was too bad, but she was kinda weird)


28 posted on 10/16/2012 9:53:34 PM PDT by KGeorge
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To: FlingWingFlyer
“He really isn't interested in a second term”

I think he is dead set on making this country a socialist moslim state under sharia law!

29 posted on 10/16/2012 9:55:51 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: God luvs America
What made the moderator think she should be correcting a candidate?
30 posted on 10/16/2012 9:57:35 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: snarkytart

Candy inserted herself into the debate and proved herself an idiot, basically. From the debate tonight, Obama proved himself not too smart. I don’t know that he lies as much as he is ignorant of facts and details that would support his positions.

In the future the GOP must stop playing stupid with liberal media debate moderators. The debates are shallow, stupid and activist liberals and they are not serving the public by the format of snarks, snippets and slogans. The presidency is not an american idol televison casting contest.

Debates should educate the public on the issues facing the country; not the issues chatted about by wealthy and disconnected pin heads that people the liberal newsroom.


31 posted on 10/16/2012 9:59:28 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: NewJerseyGOP
And clearly we are looking at a man who cares NOTHING about any American, and cares only about keeping a job he has already shown he does not deserve.

True. Nor does the job seem to interest him very much. How others see him appears more important to him more than properly executing the function committedly. IMHO

32 posted on 10/16/2012 9:59:41 PM PDT by imardmd1 (Let the redeemed of The LORD say so, whom He hath redeemed from the hand of the enemy. (Ps. 107:2))
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To: snarkytart

I know.....what’s up with that?


33 posted on 10/16/2012 10:09:34 PM PDT by Girlene
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To: Shadow44

Well, Candy is the new Obama Girl and she has a crush on him....


34 posted on 10/16/2012 10:23:12 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: SaraJohnson
In the future the GOP must stop playing stupid with liberal media debate moderators.

I agree with that. The only people more idiotic than Crowley are the Republicans who agreed to let her moderate.

35 posted on 10/16/2012 10:33:18 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: God luvs America

bet it killed him to say that


36 posted on 10/16/2012 10:33:57 PM PDT by wardaddy (my wife prays in the tanning bed....guess what region i live in...ya'll?)
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To: Sgt_Schultze

“TheOne looked angry, so angry. He’s going to have to come out more forcefully in the next debate. Chrissy Tingles may call it to racist to notice theOne’s anger, but it was just so palpable.”

Maybe he’s angry enough to come out swinging about racism. Maybe he could turn this whole thing around if, every time Romney scored a point, Zero just said “That’s racist.”


37 posted on 10/16/2012 10:34:44 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: FlingWingFlyer

“He really isn’t interested in a second term.”

That crossed my mind too. In terms of actually doing anything constructive or beneficial, yeah.
Both of them see presidentin’ as a good gig—better pay than him teaching his bizarre notions of constitutional law, they have had the use and enjoyment of a nice home, lots of servants, fabulous vacations, golf—too many perqs, gratuities and emoluments to mention.
And she has been able to lecture interminably the American public and pretend that it’s work, and has further enjoyed cracking the whip over dozens of well-paid people, jumping when she says `frog’.
They’ve both done some serious damage, as well as a lot of mischief, criminal and civil, personally and through agents.
It was an expensive lesson for the great American middle to show how open-minded they were in electing a sort-of-black man who can speak without a Negro accent, or with, (or whatever that was), and it’s certainly past time to send them packing so he can begin making real money competing with the Two C’s for the title `Worst Former President Ever.’ And `Chewbacca’ may want to do a Hillary and plague us for a few more years.
I hope over the holidays someone is taking care to inventory and secure the WH china, silver, furniture, wall hangings, oil paintings, carpets and rugs, fixtures, appliances, drapes, curtains, lawn care implements, lightning rods, satellite dishes, ornamental shrubbery, et cetera.
Remember the Clintons taking off with just about everything that wasn’t nailed down? I remember one of the first gifs I saw here was Hildy flashing WH silver smuggled in her overcoat. And now she’s screwing up on her own, maybe with a little help & advice from Slick. Professional courtesy.

Good riddance, Obamas, if that’s your real name. We’ll miss you like body lice.


38 posted on 10/16/2012 10:36:16 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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To: God luvs America

I’m trying to be fair here.

My opinion is that Mitt Romney is a man of accomplishment and he carries himself that way. He knows how to make and has made tough decisions. Most importantly, he knows how to get things done even when he doesn’t get everything he wants. Mostly Romney strikes me as a man who thinks about the larger picture and will lead that way. With that said, is he a little power hungry? Probably. Is he always telling the truth? Probably not.

Obama on the other hand has always struck me as a man in over his head. He talks about ‘taxing the rich’ but, ‘envy’ is not a serious economic policy in my book and if it is, Obama certainly hasn’t convinced me that raising taxes on the rich will do anything but, annoy rich people.

As an Americn, I don’t care about the rich. I don’t even care about the poor (per se). I care about the American economy. Instead of attacking Romney, how about Obama explaining his policy on entitlement spending...those sorts of things.

Obama also strikes me as a man who never really had to do the hard work of life. He’s gotten by with ‘razzle-dazzle from day one, apparently. This Libya thing is a classic example. I’m not sure why but, Obama has just been dancing and weaving ever since the 9/11/12 attacks. I bet some real embarrassing crap went down (more embarrassing than we even know) which is why Obama has been lying the last five weeks.

Romney may not be the answer but, I am certain Obama is not the aNSWER. I’m giving Romney my vote and I’ll assume he knows how to govern unless and until he proves otherwise.


39 posted on 10/16/2012 10:43:49 PM PDT by Mustangman (The GOP)
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To: God luvs America

The breakdown of the CBS poll was somewhat similar - huge wins for Romney on the issues vs. Obama. The economy was even better on the CBS poll - 65-34% win for Romney.


40 posted on 10/16/2012 11:17:27 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: Republican Wildcat

Having been invited to watch the debate with 3 liberal neighbors, I can tell you that Obama did not win.

They were happy to see Obama fighting a little, but had nothing to say, occasionally hissing at the TV when Romney spoke. One of my neighbors said to me (I’m from MA, watching in Maine) “Hey so you say Romney did a good job as Governor of Maine?” ... I said “yeah, as good a job as you can do with an 87% democrat legislature.”

This neighbor is a former businessman. I think he’s secretly thinking of pulling the Romney lever.

They left with very little to say. I said “hey, the media will call it a tie” just to be nice.

I stayed for desert with the neighbor who is devoutly liberal. I said, to be nice and make conversation, “well, so what do you think, will Obama win” ... she said “I don’t know if he can, I don’t know why he would want to.”

The argument against Romney that followed damned Obama with faint praise: “Maybe what this Romney wants to do is better, but I don’t think we should change the course we’re on ... stay the course.”

Be prepared to counsel your Liberal friends and neighbors. They are truly depressed. Their eyes were also openned in the first debate, and were held open to bright light by this debate. They may not vote for Romney, but the Obama they will vote for is a completely different man than the illusion they bought into, and they know it now.

When liberals remember Obama, the memories will be filled with anger and feelings of betrayal. As far as they’re concerned - he quit on them, leaving them to look like fools in front of the hateful conservative wolves. And of course, he did quit ... and of course ... they were fools.


41 posted on 10/16/2012 11:57:12 PM PDT by HannibalHamlinJr
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To: Iron Munro

It is going to be so boring when Obama is no longer president. Just like Trayvon...... LOL !!!!!


42 posted on 10/17/2012 12:07:34 AM PDT by jdirt
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To: Mustangman
You say "Romney may not be the answer and you explain it this way: "My opinion is that Mitt Romney is a man of accomplishment and he carries himself that way. He knows how to make and has made tough decisions. Most importantly, he knows how to get things done even when he doesn't get everything he wants. Mostly Romney strikes me as a man who thinks about the larger picture and will lead that way."

The above is the quintessential description of a successful businessman.

"With that said, is he a little power hungry? Probably. Is he always telling the truth? Probably not."

Power "hungry" can mean wanting to be in control since being in control IS a position of power, it simply comes with the territory and this is not or should not be viewed as a negative. It is wholly dependent on the reason one wants to be in control. Id it for better or worse? Power for powers sake is not a good thing but power for good is a good thing. A person who has no desire to take the reigns of the most powerful country ever to exist has no business running for president of this country.

As for truth. No one can be said to never lie. There are lies and there are lies. If your wife or girlfriend asks you if the new dress she bought makes her ass look big are you saying you would say yes it does? If the reason for a lie is to keep and hold power, power which is used for personal gain rather than the betterment of the majority then it is problematic, otherwise the performance of the individual in the job is what is most important.

43 posted on 10/17/2012 2:04:25 AM PDT by Lacey2
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To: God luvs America

Is there a link to those numbers? Or was that just read on air?

I can’t find those details on the CNN site. There are details of the similar poll from the first debate.


44 posted on 10/17/2012 2:24:16 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est.)
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To: HannibalHamlinJr

Excellent post! I sympathize. Both of my in-laws are rabid liberals living in Massachusetts. Their entire line of attack on this election entails Romney-bashing clichés. Very little can be positively said about Obama. Underneath all their leftist platitudes there are seething anger and disappointment with the Kenyan Marxist. This explains most of New England being most devoid of Obama yard signs and bumper stickers.


45 posted on 10/17/2012 4:02:38 AM PDT by BlueStateRightist
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To: BlueStateRightist

Yep!

They finally saw that there is no ‘there’ there. Even more than the lazy debate, that was the betrayal. He fooled them. Used them. Scammed them.

Couldn’t happen to a more naive group - perhaps for some, this is the mugging by reality. Stalin couldn’t hope for a more malleable citizenry than Liberal America.

That former Obama voter in the Frank Luntz focus group said it best.

... correction - I meant governor of MA, not Maine ... I’m from MA, currently in Maine ... gets confusing.


46 posted on 10/17/2012 4:57:03 AM PDT by HannibalHamlinJr
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To: Lacey2

Well said.


47 posted on 10/17/2012 5:04:26 AM PDT by Mustangman (The GOP)
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To: American Constitutionalist

-——So Buzzard Crowley’s former job was a bouncer at a bar ?-——

I thought she was a linebacker.


48 posted on 10/17/2012 5:11:59 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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To: FreedomPoster

post #24 in this thread said they saw the internals while the Tea Party facebook page captured the screen shot on CNN: http://www.facebook.com/TheTeaParty.net


49 posted on 10/17/2012 5:22:05 AM PDT by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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To: ilgipper
If he had been allowed to make the charge on terror without interuption, and had scored a big point on that, I think this election wold have been over.

Saw someone on Twitchy point out that since debate #3 is foreign policy and the point about Obama not calling it a terror act has been pre-fact-checked, that Romney can now revisit it with emphasis in the next debate.

50 posted on 10/17/2012 5:25:38 AM PDT by kevkrom (If a wise man has an argument with a foolish man, the fool only rages or laughs...)
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