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Was “Undecided” Questioner Catherine Fenton Former Media Coordinator of CodePink Long Island?
The Volokh Conspiracy ^ | Oct 17, 2012 | Jim Lindgren

Posted on 10/16/2012 9:44:13 PM PDT by Darnright

How good was Gallup’s vetting of the questioners at the 2d Presidential debate held at Hofstra on Long Island?

One explicitly feminist question was asked by undecided voter Catherine Fenton:

And it’s Katherine Fenton, who has a question for you. QUESTION: In what new ways to [do] you intend to rectify the inequalities in the workplace, specifically regarding females making only 72 percent of what their male counterparts earn?

By a strange coincidence, there happens to be a Catherine Fenton who in 2008 identified herself as the Media Coordinator of CodePink Long Island.

Is she the same Catherine Fenton? Presumably we will be able to determine this over the next few days. For now, it is worth noting that the CodePink Fenton discussed whether feminists in March 2008 should support Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, or a third-party candidate:

As a liberal, I believed and still do believe, that after the complete and abject failure of conservatism, we should have been heralding in a President Al Gore, or if not, then a President John Edwards. Barack Obama is not my first choice. But as he did vote yes on banning cluster bombs in civilian areas, and speak out against this war before it happened, perhaps he is the better choice. Perhaps a third party candidate is a better choice for you. These are matters of individual conscience. But Hillary is not the answer.

And I’m not turning my feminist card in.

A BUZZFLASH READER CONTRIBUTION

Catherine Fenton Media Coordinator CODEPINK Long Island

The CodePink Fenton seems to argue that Hillary Clinton is not reliably left wing enough for her tastes.

More here and here.

UPDATE: Because probably few people who supported McCain in 2008 are undecided today, Gallup had a problem coming up with unbiased undecideds. Indeed, CNN admitted that almost all of the audience had voted for Obama in 2008.

There may be a partial solution to this problem: pick a majority of people who supported Bush in 2004. 2004 was a close election, so it shouldn’t have been hard to find undecideds today who voted for Bush in 2004. Next, CNN (or the debate commission) could have picked a Republican-leaning reporter to be a moderator.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012debates; codepink; debate; duplicate; ringer
This is a theory, but Catherine Fenton isn't all that common a name. I am sure, if she is the actual "undecided voter", she will be found out.
1 posted on 10/16/2012 9:44:14 PM PDT by Darnright
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To: Darnright

Bump


2 posted on 10/16/2012 9:47:05 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (The pundits have forgotten the 2010 elections.)
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To: Darnright

Here is an article by her:
http://www.truth-out.org/buzzflash/commentary/item/4192-real-sheroes—catherine-fenton


3 posted on 10/16/2012 9:48:10 PM PDT by PMAS (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing)
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To: Darnright

Totsl plant.

They likely fed Obama the pre scripted questions as well.

Crowley was giving Obama two extra minutes to lie for the first hour on every question.


4 posted on 10/16/2012 9:49:52 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: PMAS

She’s a dyed-in-the-wool true believer, isn’t she?


5 posted on 10/16/2012 9:50:53 PM PDT by Darnright ("I don't trust liberals, I trust conservatives." - Lucius Annaeus Seneca)
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To: Darnright
Catherine Fenton isn't all that common a name.

You might be surprised by how many there are.

Go to Google mages and enter her name.


6 posted on 10/16/2012 9:53:58 PM PDT by Iron Munro (Psalm 109:8 "Let his days be few, and let another take his office.")
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To: Darnright

We’ve assumed “undecided” meant they were undecided between Romney and Obama.

Most of this crowd seemed to be undecided between Obama, Rosanne Barr and that guy from the Socialist Workers Party.


7 posted on 10/16/2012 9:56:46 PM PDT by PressurePoint
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To: Darnright

Yeah, she’s undecided, undecided between Obama and the Green Party.


8 posted on 10/16/2012 9:57:41 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: Iron Munro

>You might be surprised by how many there are.<

If she’s a Code Pinkster, what do you want to bet some enterprising Breitbartian will come up with a photo of her at one or more of their protests?


9 posted on 10/16/2012 9:58:40 PM PDT by Darnright ("I don't trust liberals, I trust conservatives." - Lucius Annaeus Seneca)
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To: Darnright

I called that a plant the second she finished her question.


10 posted on 10/16/2012 10:09:34 PM PDT by ConservativeStatement (Obama "acted stupidly.")
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To: All

Nah, she looks way too young to be the same 5 years ago. Probably a product or current student at a liberal college, or is that repetitive!


11 posted on 10/16/2012 10:11:36 PM PDT by USAFJeeper (Who Dat Nation - Loving the Manning Face!)
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To: Darnright
Well,...ought to be checked out....

A related thread:

A reminder about the last plant-infested, CNN-run town hall debate

12 posted on 10/16/2012 10:12:40 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Darnright

This question, and a couple others, sounded like they were written by the Obama campaign team. Unbelievable that they let them ask such one-sided questions.


13 posted on 10/16/2012 10:25:44 PM PDT by mtrott
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To: PressurePoint
We’ve assumed “undecided” meant they were undecided between Romney and Obama.

I wouldn't be exactly surprised to find the crowd was mostly cooked, as opposed to largely cooked. But there did seem to be some real questioners in there who had some pretty darned unfriendly questions for Zippy—I'm thinking of that middle-aged black guy. He was not a happy camper, and he made 0bummer look bad.

For "undecideds," isn't a roomful of Democrats about what one would expect? Everyone else figured out the disaster a long time ago. You'd expect people who are undecided because they were attached to 0bummer, but now they're mad at him. And that's supposed to be why most undecideds break for the challenger, right?

There were a probably enough plants in that crowd to make a greenhouse, so I wouldn't say they were actually representative, but I thought the debate went very well. Candy was a typical narcissist hag-reporterette, but Romney seemed more than equal to the task. He had forceful ideas and figures at his command—while Zippy was flailing around, recycling the same four or five lame generalities.

A lot of people were watching, and I'll bet most of them were impressed with Romney a second time. Man, what a great line he had, pointing out that another four years with 0bummer would be just like the first four.

14 posted on 10/16/2012 10:26:22 PM PDT by SamuraiScot
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To: Darnright

You gotta hand it to Code Pink in that they get where they want to go.


15 posted on 10/16/2012 10:27:13 PM PDT by des
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To: Darnright

Is she the one who kind of stumbled on her question and 0bama jumped in and said “you’re doing good.” And he knew that because ... he wrote the question?


16 posted on 10/16/2012 10:30:46 PM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: Darnright

You realize that Gallup is being sued by the DOJ.

Gallup better pony up for Zero or cough up hundreds of thousands in legals expenses.


17 posted on 10/16/2012 10:35:06 PM PDT by NoLibZone (I know what it is to be Black. More so than Whoppi does. I am a Republican.)
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To: Darnright

Then again, refuting the premise of the question with logic and facts wouldn’t have played well.


18 posted on 10/16/2012 10:40:02 PM PDT by Eagles6 (DNC 2012 Convention: Celebrating infanticide and sodomy. Denying God.What could possibly go wrong?)
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To: des

That they do.


19 posted on 10/16/2012 10:40:14 PM PDT by Darnright ("I don't trust liberals, I trust conservatives." - Lucius Annaeus Seneca)
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To: Darnright
There are 5 Catherine Fenton's in New York state.

I got it from switchboard.com

20 posted on 10/16/2012 10:41:54 PM PDT by Slyfox
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To: Darnright

I noticed Obama making head motions and other indications that he was connecting with someone in the audience, on the stage. At one point, it looked like he was nodding his head, as if to say, ok, I got it. Right in the beginning when he came on stage, he wiggled his fingers, hello to someone.


21 posted on 10/16/2012 10:45:53 PM PDT by Eva (Obama and Hillary lied, Americans diedI)
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To: Slyfox

Interesting. Thanks for looking that up. The Catherine Fenton associated with Code Pink lived in Holbrook at least in 2005, according to the Newsday article she authored here:

http://www.newsday.com/opinion/500-words-or-less-1.530685

Doe that help narrowing the 5 women down to the debate participant?


22 posted on 10/16/2012 10:56:57 PM PDT by Darnright ("I don't trust liberals, I trust conservatives." - Lucius Annaeus Seneca)
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To: Eva

Moderator gave the _resident the questions beforehand to reduce the number of Uhs in the debate.


23 posted on 10/16/2012 10:59:28 PM PDT by Dryman (Define Natural Born Citizen)
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To: Darnright
Here's a MUCH better question: Why have the "Republican" members of the Commission on Presidential Debates allowed liberal moderators, liberal news organizations, liberal topics, and liberal plants in debate after debate, decade after decade?

Well, here's one answer: The two Republicans you might actually know on the CPD are Alan "Go Along to Get Along" Simpson, and John "I never met a Democrat I didn't like" Danforth.

Tonight's "debate" was a disgrace. It's time to get some actual Republicans on the CPD.

24 posted on 10/16/2012 11:14:29 PM PDT by FredZarguna (Maybe he was a neutrino for most of the jump.)
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To: Darnright

Perhaps one is an aunt and the other is her niece.


25 posted on 10/17/2012 12:20:36 AM PDT by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order.)
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To: FredZarguna

You are absolutely correct. I have been saying this very thing. I also wrote the RNC that they should get new republicans on the commission. I’m not sure how all that works but I assume the RNC has some influence over that.


26 posted on 10/17/2012 12:36:14 AM PDT by liberalcide1
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To: FredZarguna
Tonight's "debate" was a disgrace. It's time to get some actual Republicans on the CPD.

With the rise of Romney Republicanism, perhaps the species is extinct.

By the way, they announced at the first ObamaRomney show that the newest member of the CPD is none other than Fr. John Jenkins, the man who brought Obama to Notre Dame and heaped him with honors.

There wasn't a single actual conservative anywhere near this debate process, in any capacity. Including the debaters, of course.

27 posted on 10/17/2012 12:37:27 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (The only wasted vote is one that doesn't represent you.)
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To: Darnright
...Katherine Fenton ... QUESTION: ... females making only 72 percent of what their male counterparts earn?

When I worked in software engineering we have a female worker complain that she and a male worker had started on the same day but after about 7 years she was making less than the male. She had to be reminded that she had taken three 1-year leaves of absences when her children were born, and thus had 3 years less experience.

Also, when the clock struck 4:30 she left, period. Most of us stay later. During crunch times I'd go home at 6 PM, get something to eat and be back by 7 PM and stay until 10 PM. Then start all over the next morning at 7 AM. These things do in fact affect your salary.

28 posted on 10/17/2012 2:21:34 AM PDT by libertylover (The problem with Obama is not that his skin is too black, it's that his ideas are too RED.)
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To: liberalcide1

“....I also wrote the RNC that they should get new republicans on the commission....”
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The RNC has given us what we have now—someone like Jim DeMint should be the one designated to name the Republican representatives.

The RNC is clueless.


29 posted on 10/17/2012 3:02:50 AM PDT by House Atreides
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To: FredZarguna

Biggest point to be made. And fixed once and for all. If there is a way to get a Dem presidential candidate in front of a REAL moderator, they would go down in flames.


30 posted on 10/17/2012 3:45:46 AM PDT by SueRae (See it? Hell, I can TASTE November from my house!)
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To: libertylover

That 72% myth has been around for at least forty years. Rad feminists and lib pols repeat it endlessly, but it doesn’t make it any less false. It’s still fundamentally a dishonest statement. The “experts” think Romney was right not to mention the myth because it might turn off female voters. I don’t understand how telling the truth about something would turn off voters.


31 posted on 10/17/2012 3:58:18 AM PDT by driftless2
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To: Darnright

The GOP is run by crooks and idiots.


32 posted on 10/17/2012 4:06:48 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Corollary - Electing the same person over and over and expecting a different outcome is insanity)
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To: Dryman

Seriously? The questions were bad enough, as it was. Did she really give the questions to Obama?


33 posted on 10/17/2012 6:55:40 AM PDT by Eva (Obama and Hillary lied, Americans diedI)
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To: Darnright
It was this question that made me stop watching. The phoney format is bad enough -- it's NOT a debate -- but they didn't even try to fake the "random, undecided" audience questions.
34 posted on 10/17/2012 6:58:20 AM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1)
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To: Darnright

Which question did she ask ?


35 posted on 10/17/2012 7:57:26 AM PDT by PMAS (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing)
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To: Darnright

Which question did she ask ?


36 posted on 10/17/2012 7:57:30 AM PDT by PMAS (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing)
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To: Darnright
Fenton
37 posted on 10/17/2012 9:46:02 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: Darnright

I’m hoping that Breitbart or some other organizations with the required resources are now vetting last nights questioniers.


38 posted on 10/17/2012 9:51:02 AM PDT by tanknetter
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