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French President Hollande vows to ban homework as part of 'education reforms'
Times of India ^ | 10/17/2012

Posted on 10/17/2012 7:33:47 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

French President Francois Hollande has vowed to ban homework as part of wide-ranging reforms to the country's education system.

Hollande has expressed worries over the fact that privileged children benefit from parental assistance on take-home assignments and that disadvantaged children do not have support at home.

"An education program is, by definition, a societal program. Work should be done at school, rather than at home," the New York Daily News quoted Hollande, as saying.

According to a report by France 24, Hollande's extensive education reform plans also include increasing financial aid while combating truancy.

He also intends to provide incentives for teachers in difficult area, the report said.

According to the report, France ranks below most nearby European countries, as well as the United States, on international tests, which has prompted a desire for restructuring.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: fairness; france; hollande; homework

1 posted on 10/17/2012 7:33:52 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

MORE FROM THE WASHINGTON POST:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/answer-sheet/wp/2012/10/15/french-president-pushing-homework-ban-as-part-of-ed-reforms/

French president pushing homework ban as part of ed reforms

EXCERPT:

How do you think this would go over in the United States? French President François Hollande has said he will end homework as part of a series of reforms to overhaul the country’s education system.

And the reason he wants to ban homework?

He doesn’t think it is fair that some kids get help from their parents at home while children who come from disadvantaged families don’t. It’s an issue that goes well beyond France, and has been part of the reason that some Americans oppose homework too.

Hollande’s reform plans include increasing the number of teachers, moving the school week from four days to 4 1/2 days, overhauling the curriculum and taking steps to cut down on absenteeism.

“Education is priority,” Hollande was quoted as saying by France24.com at Paris’s Sorbonne University last week. “An education program is, by definition, a societal program. Work should be done at school, rather than at home,” as a way to ensure that students who have no help at home are not disadvantaged.

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2 posted on 10/17/2012 7:35:19 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Japanese kids spend 80 hours a week,fifty weeks a year.


3 posted on 10/17/2012 7:35:41 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Ambassador Stevens Is Dead And The Chevy Volt Is Alive)
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To: Gay State Conservative

The Jap Kids ain’t got nothing on the Korean kids...


4 posted on 10/17/2012 7:36:32 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

This guy lives in a leftist fantasy land even more than Barack Obama.


5 posted on 10/17/2012 7:36:59 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: SeekAndFind

He gonna ban homework in China too?


6 posted on 10/17/2012 7:38:10 AM PDT by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Yeah, that’s gonna work really well.
France will become a country of lazy, stupid, overconfident imbeciles that drink too much wine and eat cheese that smells like feet.............oh, wait.........


7 posted on 10/17/2012 7:38:23 AM PDT by Red Badger (Is it just me, or is Hillary! starting to look like Benjamin Franklin?.................)
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To: SeekAndFind

Well, he’s right about parental help, but shortening the effective school day by banning homework will just lessen the learning by the students.

So, here’s a socialist solution that Obama would approve of: Ban homework, but make the schoolday several hours longer; kids do what would have been homework in the school, under the supervision of additional teachers that have to be hired at high (in the US, it would be union) wages.

Presto: Problem of smart, helpful parents solved. And, as an additional benefit, the kids get several more hours of state indoctrination a day.

/S, if needed.


8 posted on 10/17/2012 7:38:38 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: SeekAndFind

This is crap. Parents who help their kids with their homework are not helping them. the ones whose parents don’t help them are the lucky ones. They learn the material.


9 posted on 10/17/2012 7:38:48 AM PDT by Daveinyork
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To: SeekAndFind

Bye-bye, cheese-eaters. Your country is beautiful, but it is in a death spiral of your own making.


10 posted on 10/17/2012 7:39:08 AM PDT by originalbuckeye
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To: SeekAndFind

This is good news. This coupled with Hollande’s other policies means that in a 15 years when I’m ready to retire France will be populated by stupid poor people. I should be able to pick up a nice chateau on the riviera for a song.


11 posted on 10/17/2012 7:39:50 AM PDT by pepsi_junkie (Who is John Galt?)
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To: SeekAndFind

A whole article about an avowed socialist banning homework? Is this supposed to be a surprise? Does anyone doubt for one minute that the turdOTUS wouldn’t do this if handed another 4 years? Not attempt...Do! Via EO. Along with a bazillion other EO’s.


12 posted on 10/17/2012 7:41:20 AM PDT by albie ("Work as if you were to live a hundred years. Pray as if you were to die tomorrow." Benjamin Frankli)
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To: SeekAndFind

Well, this is good news for Kumon centers. Doing the work that teachers don’t want to do.


13 posted on 10/17/2012 7:42:49 AM PDT by ari-freedom
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To: Daveinyork
So making them do home work and helping them understand it is crap. I think it is crap that some parents don't get involved in their children's life's.
14 posted on 10/17/2012 7:43:00 AM PDT by riverrunner
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To: pepsi_junkie

No, it will be a basic human right for stupid poor people to live in that chateau even after you buy it.


15 posted on 10/17/2012 7:44:55 AM PDT by ari-freedom
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To: pepsi_junkie
This is good news. This coupled with Hollande’s other policies means that in a 15 years when I’m ready to retire France will be populated by stupid poor people.

Sorry to tell you - but a nation of poor, stupid french-speakers - you have just described Haiti. May not be worth visiting in 15 years....

16 posted on 10/17/2012 7:46:13 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: SeekAndFind

Government needs to ban any attempts at self-improvement. It results in some people being better than others. No dieting, working out, reading, studying, learning, practicing, praying(Moslems exempted, working hard, saving, investing. We should all be equally pathetic.


17 posted on 10/17/2012 7:48:48 AM PDT by all the best (`~!)
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To: SeekAndFind
Yes, to Jacobins/Socialists/Communists & Nazis, education should be controlled by the State. They do not want families to imagine that they should have a role in educating their children.

Also, from the Collectivist perspective, while the children are being systematically indoctrinated in the new order, it is better to keep the parents in the dark, as much as possible, as to what is going on.

This is what we need to understand, perhaps not quite so overtly, is what is really going on in American education, also. It explains how a crackpot, with no real understanding of the American way of life, could become our 44th President.

Conservatives need to understand that Egalitarianism--in any of its vile manifestations--helps no one but demagogues & scoundrels. (Egalitarian Collectivism Sabotages Human Potential.)

William Flax

18 posted on 10/17/2012 7:49:44 AM PDT by Ohioan
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To: riverrunner

Getting involved and helping are two different things.


19 posted on 10/17/2012 7:53:19 AM PDT by Daveinyork
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To: Daveinyork; Pearls Before Swine

RE: This is crap. Parents who help their kids with their homework are not helping them. the ones whose parents don’t help them are the lucky ones. They learn the material.

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Well, what’s troubling is the IMPLICATION of this... What’s the French education police going to do?

Spy on every household with a kid to make sure parents aren’t helping their kids with homework?

Does even North Korea do that?


20 posted on 10/17/2012 7:54:23 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

This is jaw-droppingly stupid.

Because he feels that some children have an unfair advantage, instead of encouraging the poor children to do better, he wants to bring the “privileged” down to their level.

Socialism is a catastrophe.


21 posted on 10/17/2012 8:01:06 AM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia (Be careful of believing something just because you want it to be true.)
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To: ari-freedom
Well, this is good news for Kumon centers. Doing the work that teachers don’t want to do.

If those are even legal. Maybe the homework ban will be extended to after school tutoring because it isn't faaaaaaaair that some parents can afford it and others can't. Kind of like the French government checking parking lots at job sites to see if anyone was exceeding their 35-hour work week.

22 posted on 10/17/2012 8:02:13 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Big Bird is a brood parasite: laid in our nest 43 years ago and we are still feeding him.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

As I said -— if government gets involved in creating “fairness”, it usually ends up going amok.

We of course know that in the name of “fairness” one isn’t allowed to work more than 35 hours a week. If the job requires 40 or more hours of work for instance, the company should then hire someone else to make up for the 5 or more hours the work requires ( all in the name of “fairness”, so that others get the chance to have a job ).

Furthermore, employees may not work for more than 4.5 hours without a break.

Breaks, lasting a minimum of 20 minutes, must be granted to the employees at least every 6 hours. All workers must be allowed a daily rest period of 11 consecutive hours (9 hours in certain cases depending on collective agreements).

The minimum weekly rest period is 35 consecutive hours (11 hours plus a 24 consecutive hour rest period per week). There are waivers for some activities (machine operators, seasonal workers). Sundays are, in general, considered rest days.


23 posted on 10/17/2012 8:07:00 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
An education program is, by definition, a societal program.

And evidently its purpose is to force everyone down to the lowest common denominator, rather than enable individuals to reach their highest potential.

24 posted on 10/17/2012 8:10:09 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the psychopath.)
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To: Ohioan

That’s what I was thinking;if there is no homework, no books go home, parents are kept unaware of the materials. If you have kids in public school, please visit their classrooms, or volunteer in the classroom, and look at the assignments and books. And rememember that you are the employer and boss of these people running the education system.


25 posted on 10/17/2012 8:12:11 AM PDT by Anima Mundi (ENVY IS JUST PASSIVE, LAZY GREED)
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To: Ohioan

That’s what I was thinking;if there is no homework, no books go home, parents are kept unaware of the materials. If you have kids in public school, please visit their classrooms, or volunteer in the classroom, and look at the assignments and books. And rememember that you are the employer and boss of these people running the education system.


26 posted on 10/17/2012 8:13:26 AM PDT by Anima Mundi (ENVY IS JUST PASSIVE, LAZY GREED)
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To: SeekAndFind

Wow, another really great idea from the French socialists—mandatory school detention. I’m sure as much home work (and “help”) will get done there as gets done in detention in American schools. Spitballs, anyone?


27 posted on 10/17/2012 8:14:18 AM PDT by House Atreides
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To: SeekAndFind

I should have said this is Merde, if you will pardon mon Anglais.


28 posted on 10/17/2012 8:16:08 AM PDT by Daveinyork
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To: SeekAndFind

My fourth grader has at least an hours homework a night

Much more than I had

Silly to me


29 posted on 10/17/2012 8:25:23 AM PDT by wardaddy (my wife prays in the tanning bed....guess what region i live in...ya'll?)
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To: Anima Mundi

You are, of course, right. But you will encounter some hostility, if you try to point out to those people, that you are their employer. Many of them haven’t gotten the message that we are supposed to have a Republican form of Government.


30 posted on 10/17/2012 8:26:59 AM PDT by Ohioan
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

“This is jaw-droppingly stupid.”

Couldn’t have been stated better.


31 posted on 10/17/2012 8:49:22 AM PDT by Dennis M.
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To: SeekAndFind

So before long, the prisons should be full of young students who only want to do well academically, and their parents who refuse to surrender their role to the government. Nicely done.

Standard liberal thinking: Close the gap by lowering everybody, achieve equality of outcome. Problem solved.


32 posted on 10/17/2012 9:26:47 AM PDT by DPMD
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To: Daveinyork

No it isn’t. DO you have kids? Are you at all familiar with the method they are using to instruct math these days? I have learned a lot of math at a fairly high level, I couldn’t figure out my daughter’s homework using what she learned in school.

They problems that are long division before the kid has completed the times table. They give division problems with leftover frations, without explaining that as a possible result. They pretend that they have some super secret method that I wouldn’t understand when I complain about it to them. My daughter was failing, I had to unteach “school math” and teach her the way they use to teach it in school, and now she is at the top of her class.

What Francois Hollande is doing is trying to guarantee that everyone has the same access to education. It is a laudable goal, but implementing this would be a nightmare if these were our schools.


33 posted on 10/17/2012 9:51:22 AM PDT by Hawk1976 (It is better to die in on your feet than it is to live as on your knees.)
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To: Daveinyork
This is crap. Parents who help their kids with their homework are not helping them.

Only if they provide answers that the kid should have arrived at on his own.

My father gave up part of his Saturdays to help improve my spellling. It worked. Since it was important to my Dad, it became important to me.

34 posted on 10/17/2012 9:52:44 AM PDT by Max in Utah (A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within.)
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To: Daveinyork
This is crap. Parents who help their kids with their homework are not helping them.

Only if they provide answers that the kid should have arrived at on his own.

My father gave up part of his Saturdays to help improve my spellling. It worked. Since it was important to my Dad, it became important to me.

35 posted on 10/17/2012 9:53:07 AM PDT by Max in Utah (A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Was France Gall available for comment?


36 posted on 10/17/2012 10:13:12 AM PDT by Oratam
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To: Ohioan

Agree, but you don’t point it out to them, you just remember that in your own mind, moving forth.


37 posted on 10/17/2012 12:24:32 PM PDT by Anima Mundi (ENVY IS JUST PASSIVE, LAZY GREED)
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