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Karl Rove: No Candidate Has Ever Lost With Numbers Like Mitt Romney Has Today (Video)
The Gateway Pundit ^ | 10/17/2012 | Jim Hoft

Posted on 10/17/2012 12:46:08 PM PDT by nhwingut

Karl Rove told Megyn Kelly today on America Live that no presidential candidate has ever lost an election leading with over 50 percent of likely voters in mid October. Mitt Romney has 51 percent of likely voters today.

“The Obama campaign has pulled down all of its negative advertising. And is now running virtually all positive ads in the battleground states heralding all the success of the last four years. This is very unusual because they have been constantly beating up on Romney. In recent weeks the president’s negatives have risen and Romney particularly after this debate has moved into a lead. You saw it in the Gallup poll you talked about. Six point lead, 51-45. Yesterday it was 50-46. This is the first time that Romney has hit 50 percent in the Gallup likely voter poll and the president has never hit 50 percent in the likely voter poll. And no candidate who has led in mid-October with 50 percent or more in the likely voter poll has ever gone on to lose.“

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1 posted on 10/17/2012 12:46:13 PM PDT by nhwingut
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To: nhwingut

Interesting about the negative ads going away. We don’t get POTUS adverts in Indiana because it’s not in play this year.


2 posted on 10/17/2012 12:48:40 PM PDT by nascarnation (Defeat Baraq 2012. Deport Baraq 2013)
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To: nhwingut

So is it “Mittmentum” or “Mo’Mittum” ?


3 posted on 10/17/2012 12:50:49 PM PDT by mikrofon (NObama 2012)
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To: nascarnation

Barring some sort of major surprise, this election is a done deal for Romney. It’s going to be a decisive win.


4 posted on 10/17/2012 12:52:47 PM PDT by Oberon (Big Brutha Be Watchin'.)
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To: nascarnation

That is interesting RE: the change from negative to positive ads. Their attacks on Romney have failed because of the two debates. Romney simply cancelled out all that millions in attack ads because he proved to be a decent, well spoken, caring guy.

Romney has also effectively framed the issues on the economy...that we are not in good shape and heading the wrong way under Obama’s policies.

It will be interesting to see if they can reinvent recent history and change the mindset about the last four years.


5 posted on 10/17/2012 12:52:52 PM PDT by ilgipper
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To: nhwingut

Drudge has the poll up on his site now. Looks like the undecideds have decided. Yeaaaaa! Buh bye Barry.


6 posted on 10/17/2012 12:54:07 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: nhwingut

Not surprised. The Food Stamp President’s ads have made him look like a loser compared to Romney. Romney has portrayed the positive and the Food Stamp President and his drooling sidekick idiot Slow Joe have put nothing forward to say how they are going to get people working, business growing, etc. Nothing but negatives and people are getting sick of it.


7 posted on 10/17/2012 12:54:24 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (The law of unintended consequences is an unforgiving and vindictive b!tch!)
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To: nascarnation

From what I understand he has also pulled (ing) out of FL and NC. Completely out of Dixie. Romney can now focus like a B-52 on some pick-off targets.


8 posted on 10/17/2012 12:57:37 PM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: nascarnation

I see some, presumably because we’ve had a Pub governor and Pub senators in the past even though we’re the only state never to go Pub for president since Nixon.


9 posted on 10/17/2012 12:58:14 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: nascarnation

Negative ads influence polling until the candidate appears in a debate vis-a-vis the incumbent, and then people can see for themselves. Last night Romney reinforced the fact that he is presidential and a leader, while Obama is an excuse maker and offers no new direction for the current mess we are in.

As Romney said, if YOU re-elect Obama the next 4 years will be like the last 4 years. And we cannot afford another 4 years of this.


10 posted on 10/17/2012 1:01:22 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (Resurrect the House Committee on Un-American Activities (HUAC)...before there is no America!)
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To: nhwingut
Yeah baby ....

Get those party favors lined up and get ready to fly your American flags for the celebration on election day.......

This Bum is goin' down.....


11 posted on 10/17/2012 1:02:29 PM PDT by thingumbob (I'm a bitter clinger...I dare you to take my gun)
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To: Oberon

The jackasses will stay home on election day. Many will not waste their time for the Bullsh*tter-in-Chief, including hispanics and blacks.

Sound the tsunami warning...


12 posted on 10/17/2012 1:04:44 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (Resurrect the House Committee on Un-American Activities (HUAC)...before there is no America!)
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To: mikrofon

I think it is more like No-mentum.....O even refered to his presidency in the past tense....he knows he is one and done


13 posted on 10/17/2012 1:04:59 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: RetiredTexasVet

No matter what they do now, it all looks desperate... pivoting from one thing to the next to the next, trying to get a grip just makes Obama look desperate, and the antics of a desperate person makes everyone around them feel nervous and uneasy, it makes you want to get away from them... what happens when a couple decides to break up, but one of them refuses, and becomes desperate to stay together... it ain’t pretty. The nation wants to break up with Obama, but he ain’t getting the message... Hey O... it’s OVER!!!


14 posted on 10/17/2012 1:07:18 PM PDT by dps.inspect (rage against the Obama machine...)
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To: nascarnation

Interesting about the negative ads going away.
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Why does this make me nervous? I feel like they must have something coming out that is really negative, so they don’t need trumped up ads.


15 posted on 10/17/2012 1:07:22 PM PDT by kara37
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To: nhwingut
1. I don't like Rove trying to Jinx us. I never thought the Chargers could blow a 24 nothing lead on Monday night, either.

2. We are in totally uncharted territory. Nobody has ever had as much money spent to tear them down as Mitt Romney. Throw in several networks worth of free negative advertising and Romney had a tough campaign to wage. These debates have been the first time a lot of the public would see Romney outside of biased edited coverage. Despite the bias of the moderators Romney has connected.

We really have no way of knowing what will happen until the votes are counted.

16 posted on 10/17/2012 1:07:56 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: nhwingut

I have this sick feeling Obama will pull it out. Please tell me I’m crazy.


17 posted on 10/17/2012 1:08:22 PM PDT by Calpublican
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To: nhwingut

Wasn’t this the same Rove who said in Sept that Romney had no chance of winning?


18 posted on 10/17/2012 1:09:15 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: Calpublican

You’re crazy.


19 posted on 10/17/2012 1:11:25 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: kara37

Changing tactics in the final weeks of the campaign doesn’t sound like a winner to me


20 posted on 10/17/2012 1:13:39 PM PDT by goodolemr
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To: Oberon
"Barring some sort of major surprise, this election is a done deal for Romney."

Under normal circumstances, I would readily agree with you; two things concern me, however:

The Chicago Thug Machine factor, and the inevitable "October Surprise."

Put together, the possibilities are downright scary.

I think these guys will pull out all the stops to hang on to their power.

21 posted on 10/17/2012 1:15:27 PM PDT by daler
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To: Oberon
and the president has never hit 50 percent

This was always the key. Even in September with the press totally and openly in tank, rigging poll and turning Obama missteps into Romney's problem... OBAMA was never over 50%.

22 posted on 10/17/2012 1:17:19 PM PDT by 11th Commandment (http://www.thirty-thousand.org/)
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To: nhwingut

I think most Americans really want a Republican. It’s just that we tend to offer candidates who may be right on most of the issues but end up doing embarrassing things that have nothing to do with the actual issues.

For example, you won’t see Ryan admitting that he was once a witch or that he was once the CEO of a fake wrestling organization. Romney may slip but he won’t make ‘Bushisms’ over and over again. These things have nothing to do with policy but they turn people off.


23 posted on 10/17/2012 1:17:27 PM PDT by ari-freedom
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To: fortheDeclaration

The rat invasion of 06 is partly to blame, but if rove is so great why was the end of Bush’s admin so lame?

And Bush never stood up against the $#1t thrown at him. That bugged me. DHS, TSA, NCLB also SUCK big time.


24 posted on 10/17/2012 1:17:46 PM PDT by bicyclerepair ( REPLACE D-W-S ! http://www.karenforcongress.com)
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To: daler

There is a rumor that the October surprise is zero droning the guy who led the Libya murders. If that’s their October surprise then I think we’re still in good shape.


25 posted on 10/17/2012 1:19:13 PM PDT by Aria ( 2008 wasn't an election - it was a coup d'etat.)
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To: bicyclerepair
Bush washed his hands of the GOP when the grassroots defeated his open border attempt.

He essentially let the GOP lose power because the grassroots defeated what he thought was a sure victory.

I have zero respect for either Bush.

26 posted on 10/17/2012 1:21:24 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: mikrofon

I’m still not resting easy until I see our White House door hit Obama and Michelle in their @sses on their way out. I guess we can expect the usual missing Ms and Rs from the computer keyboards and other trashy, low life, scumbag things like they when the rest of the trailer trash leaves.


27 posted on 10/17/2012 1:21:24 PM PDT by Bitsy
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To: fortheDeclaration
You’re crazy.

Thank you. I needed that.

28 posted on 10/17/2012 1:25:31 PM PDT by Calpublican
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To: nhwingut

Nice try, Karl Rove, but I’m still voting!


29 posted on 10/17/2012 1:26:54 PM PDT by cotton1706
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To: kara37

You are a good way to be.

We need to fight and get as greedy as possible and win everything. Romney will win by 55-45. No doubt. Where our greed comes in is with the Senate predominantly. I think we will get between 52-57 senators but we need to get real greedy and go for 57. That is sooooo critical. We also need to get greedy and take as much of the House.

That you are paranoid that they will try something is not freakish but you need to recognize a clear path to victory when you see it. Expand your vision to the Senate first and then the House. We need to Senate desperately. We can get it. There will be meat on the walls for that fight.

You have fought so long and hard that you have forgotten how to claim your victories. Right now it is as easy as picking low hanging fruit. The Senate is that one last piece of fruit way up high. We can get that one too. Know this well!


30 posted on 10/17/2012 1:27:47 PM PDT by GilGil
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..............Or, they know they can spend money on positive ads because the Unions and NARAL are going to spend 100’s of millions on negative ads for him.


31 posted on 10/17/2012 1:31:00 PM PDT by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig (It is going to be Foot to Ass combat on election day....my foot and a Rat's ass.)
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To: USNBandit
I never thought the Chargers could blow a 24 nothing lead on Monday night, either.

If you look up We really suck in Webster's, it still has a picture of the Houston Oilers team that blew a 35-3 lead to Buffalo in the January 1993 AFC Wildcard game.

32 posted on 10/17/2012 1:32:24 PM PDT by tx_eggman (Liberalism is only possible in that moment when a man chooses Barabas over Christ.)
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To: daler

“and the inevitable “October Surprise.””

I think the “October Surprise” is less and less a factor in elections, with the increase of early voting and absentee voting.

Lots of people have already voted. More vote each day. So much so that we basically have an election month, not an election day.

I don’t actually approve of this, but it does blunt the effectiveness of an October Surprise.


33 posted on 10/17/2012 1:32:36 PM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: Nifster

****O even refered to his presidency in the past tense....he knows he is one and done.****

His puppet masters must be giving him a hard time and he’s decided Bubba Clinton has a pretty good gig: adoring crowds, life-time pension, exotic travel, security, big bucks from memoirs, so-called global initiatives, charities and speeches. Sorta, kinda King of the World. He’s prolly jealous.


34 posted on 10/17/2012 1:33:45 PM PDT by sodpoodle (Life is prickly - carry tweezers.)
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To: TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig

I’m in the camp that the polls looked strong for Romney all along and they’re now just reporting correctly to wipe the egg from their faces.

But I’m voting and encouraging every living soul I know to vote. Not taking a single thing for granted!


35 posted on 10/17/2012 1:37:07 PM PDT by King Hawk
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To: Bitsy
I’m still not resting easy until I see our White House door hit Obama and Michelle in their @sses on their way out.

It will have to be a roll up door for Michelle.

36 posted on 10/17/2012 1:38:07 PM PDT by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig (It is going to be Foot to Ass combat on election day....my foot and a Rat's ass.)
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To: USNBandit

As long as Romney doesn’t hire Norv Turner things should be fine.


37 posted on 10/17/2012 1:38:24 PM PDT by wireman
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To: nhwingut

Shut up Karl.


38 posted on 10/17/2012 1:40:31 PM PDT by DManA
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To: Calpublican

I get the impression you are from california. I can understand your fear.


39 posted on 10/17/2012 1:46:45 PM PDT by painter (Obamahood,"Steal from the working people and give to the worthless.")
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To: nhwingut

“...heralding all the success of the last four years.”

So, they must be focusing on the people, who, like the muslim marxist, hate America and want to see the destruction of it continue.


40 posted on 10/17/2012 1:50:05 PM PDT by waus (FUBO UFCMF, Just in case I stuttered, FUBO)
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To: All

The MSM wants a Dewey beats Truman headline.

Chriss Mathews wants to tingle.

Maddow will switch sides to help obama relax.
anderson cooper will ..whatever, you get the point.

We need more ground troups. We need monster crowds.


41 posted on 10/17/2012 1:53:26 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: daler

“Under normal circumstances, I would readily agree with you; two things concern me, however:

The Chicago Thug Machine factor, and the inevitable “October Surprise.”

Put together, the possibilities are downright scary.

I think these guys will pull out all the stops to hang on to their power.”

This is exactly my feeling also. I won’t rest easy until Romney is inagurated.


42 posted on 10/17/2012 1:54:01 PM PDT by MtBaldy (If Obama is the answer, it must have been a really stupid question)
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To: VanDeKoik

I think he has ceased ads into Southwest Virginia as well. He must depend on the more populous East Virginia to pull it out


43 posted on 10/17/2012 1:55:14 PM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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To: nhwingut

I’m not always a big fan of Rove, but when it comes to crunching the numbers, he has a great way of putting things in perspective. When I saw the 51% in Gallup, I kinda thought that to myself — this is the kind of lead that’s pretty tough to overcome this late in the game. Rove just confirms what I was thinking, and gives me more reassurance that — barring a disaster in the final debate or some major crisis that somehow makes Zero look good — this is all but a done deal.


44 posted on 10/17/2012 1:57:00 PM PDT by lquist1
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To: Oberon

I have daydreams about the look on Moochie’s face when she figures out that her trips/clothes/meal tickets are gonna be cut off.


45 posted on 10/17/2012 1:58:26 PM PDT by Mountain Mary (Pray for our Republic...)
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To: nhwingut
get the women and children out of the aspirin factories this weekend!!!

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46 posted on 10/17/2012 1:58:42 PM PDT by Elle Bee
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The first debate was like two armies racing to a gap in a mountain chain. Obama counted on defining Romney as someone to fear and then cruise through the debates. That failed. Then, Romney simply looked competent at the debate and that was enough.

He isn’t scary, he seems informed, engaged and with energy.

Game over.

People were looking to make a change, just needed reassurance Mitt wasn’t a nutjob. Obama lost the race to define him, and now it is simply hoping Romney makes a colossal error.


47 posted on 10/17/2012 2:03:18 PM PDT by Crimson Elephant
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To: nhwingut
The fact that Obama and Biden are trying to fire up their base says it all. They are no longer seeking the swing voters they need to win. They are focused on hanging onto their base.

When an incumbent is below 50% at this point in the race they are in real trouble.

Turnout will be everything, so please vote!

48 posted on 10/17/2012 2:04:19 PM PDT by Senator_Blutarski
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To: nhwingut

Looks like the debates are finally beginning to awaken the undecided “swing” voters who have been sitting in front of Dancing with the Stars face down in the Doritos for the past four years. Go Romney!!


49 posted on 10/17/2012 2:12:57 PM PDT by tlp2001 (Capitalism is based on human strength, communism is based on human weakness)
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To: USNBandit
I never thought the Chargers could blow a 24 nothing lead on Monday night, either.

obama.....manning.......think

50 posted on 10/17/2012 2:13:18 PM PDT by kingattax (99 % of liberals give the rest a bad name)
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