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It's Time For Romney to Give Benghazi a Rest (Please Change the Subject Alert)
Mother Jones ^ | 10/17/2012 | Kevin Drum

Posted on 10/17/2012 3:36:18 PM PDT by mojito

There's lots of chatter this morning about Mitt Romney's "Benghazi moment" last night, and Ed Kilgore wonders if Romney will keep up the inquisition next week. "Given the extremely narrow nature of Romney's foreign policy critique of Obama last night and throughout the campaign, you do have to wonder what the final debate next week will be like. Will Romney continue to conduct an inquisition of exactly what Obama said when on the Libya killings, treating the incident as a sort of domestic version of Fast & Furious, a key to the Vast Liberal Conspiracy?"

That's pretty much my question too. Adam Serwer has a good rundown of the bickering over whether Obama really referred to Benghazi as an act of terror in his Rose Garden speech the next day, or whether he was just generically referring to acts of terror, and anyway, even if he did, why did he then decline to do it again a few days later, etc. etc. That's all fine, I guess, just part of a tight campaign entering its closing days.

But what I really wonder is: how has this become a serious question anyway? Why does anyone care if it took two weeks to decide that Benghazi was an act of terror?

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
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Golly, Kevin, I just don't know!
1 posted on 10/17/2012 3:36:27 PM PDT by mojito
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To: mojito

There are some family members who are waiting for some answers, Kevin.


2 posted on 10/17/2012 3:38:04 PM PDT by kempster
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To: mojito

There are some family members who are waiting for some answers, Kevin.


3 posted on 10/17/2012 3:38:06 PM PDT by kempster
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To: mojito

Kevin Drum

Political Blogger

The inventor of Friday catblogging, Kevin was a blogosphere pioneer when, after a stint in marketing, he went online as Calpundit in 2003. Prior to joining MoJo, he blogged at the Washington Monthly’s Political Animal. He lives with his wife and two cats in Irvine.


4 posted on 10/17/2012 3:39:39 PM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever.)
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To: mojito

we are just warming up, Kevin.


5 posted on 10/17/2012 3:41:27 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: mojito

Gee, I hope not. I especially liked that he managed to throw in F&F in the mix.


6 posted on 10/17/2012 3:43:27 PM PDT by jersey117
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To: kempster

Kevin. I know the Left could careless about National Security. That includes THE FOREIGNER. But I would like to know who approved a reduction of security personnel in Benghazi after requests to increase it were needed and asked for. It’s a simple question that has not been answered by the regime. Expect Romney to hammer him on it despite what you socialist frauds try to spin.


7 posted on 10/17/2012 3:44:13 PM PDT by spawn44 (MOO)
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To: mojito
the extremely narrow nature of Romney's foreign policy critique of Obama

Then let's broaden that criticism: Barack Obama's foreign policy stinks. It sucks. It reeks. It blows chunks. In fact, Barack Obama HAS no foreign policy, unless you call groveling before every third-world sheet-wearer and tinhorn tyrant a foreign policy. Unless you call apologizing to murderers, savages, and barbarians a foreign policy. Unless you call playing golf while madmen slaughter four of your citizens a foreign policy. In which case, he DOES have one, but it still sucks.

Is that better?

8 posted on 10/17/2012 3:44:43 PM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: mojito

“Will Romney continue to conduct an inquisition of exactly what Obama said when on the Libya killings, treating the incident as a sort of domestic version of Fast & Furious”

I sure hope so. Not really sure how four Americans being murdered in Libya counts as a domestic version of anything, btw.

“Why does anyone care if it took two weeks to decide that Benghazi was an act of terror?”

We CARE because it looks increasingly likely that the administration deliberately and knowingly perpetuated a phony story for those two weeks in order to save their guy’s bacon in the election. I think that’s pretty danged important, you jackwagon. I’m betting it’s important to the friends and family of the four people we lost, too.


9 posted on 10/17/2012 3:46:15 PM PDT by DemforBush (100% Ex-Democrat.)
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To: mojito

Considering that the final debate topic is Foreign Policy, really not time to wrap it up. Particularly since Hillary fell on the sword and Obama pulled her off....but likely only temporarily.


10 posted on 10/17/2012 3:46:22 PM PDT by Sacajaweau (r)
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To: mojito
Why does anyone care if it took two weeks to decide that Benghazi was an act of terror?

I care. The President of the United States lied to the American people. That's why, you moron.

11 posted on 10/17/2012 3:47:02 PM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: mojito
Kevin,
Not going to happen because the next debate is on foreign policy.
12 posted on 10/17/2012 3:47:38 PM PDT by Keen-Minded
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To: mojito
In the same that Woodward and Bernstein should've just given Watergate a rest, I take it? Is there anything on the left that shouldn't be sacrosanct from "politicization", especially as they're the ones who proclaimed that there is no private life, everything is political?
13 posted on 10/17/2012 3:48:03 PM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: kempster

This guy obviously doesn’ t care about dead Americans. It is all about getting Obama re-elected.


14 posted on 10/17/2012 3:48:18 PM PDT by KansasGirl ("If you have a business, you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen."--B. Hussein Obama)
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To: mojito

You dummies would love to give it a rest...I say bring it out and let the whole world know what liars are in the white house..


15 posted on 10/17/2012 3:48:18 PM PDT by PLD
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To: mojito

Yeah, how convenient what with the last debate coming up on Monday dealing solely with foreign affairs...


16 posted on 10/17/2012 3:48:39 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (Resurrect the House Committee on Un-American Activities (HUAC)...before there is no America!)
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To: don-o
Kevin Drum

Political Blogger

The inventor of Friday catblogging, Kevin was a blogosphere pioneer when, after a stint in marketing, he went online as Calpundit in 2003. Prior to joining MoJo, he blogged at the Washington Monthly’s Political Animal. He lives with his wife and two cats in Irvine.

Really, no one was blogging before 2003, seriously? Why not just take credit for inventing it?

He seems a bit testy, is he worried his hero zero is damaged goods? Too late, it looks like a lot of people have seen him for what he really is, a lightweight, average IQ Marxist who has had his way paved his entire life who gets mad when anyone dares question him. I hope Romney really gets under his skin on the last debate and what do you know? It's on foreign policy.

Sorry Kev, I think the issue isn't going away and family members want and deserve honest answers!

I wonder if O really thinks he's done all this on his own merit. Talk about self delusions.

17 posted on 10/17/2012 3:48:39 PM PDT by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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To: mojito

Nixon felt that way about Watergate.

Ford about the pardon.

Carter about the hostages.

Clinton about Monica.


18 posted on 10/17/2012 3:48:50 PM PDT by hadaclueonce (you are paying 12% more for fuel because of Ethanol. Smile big Corn Lobby,)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Much has been made of the ridiculous questions Crowley selected, her constant interruptions, her Libya bailout/lie, her always giving Obama the last word (when a question was posed to Romney Obama got a chance to rebut, but when Obama got a question Romney got a chance a chance to rebut THEN Obama was given ANOTHER chance to rebut Romney)....

but the more interesting question is:

When Romney pressed Obama on Benghazi Obama asked Crowley to check the transcript.....

Why would Candy have that particular transcript right in front of her, and how did Obama know she had it in front of her? Coordination?


19 posted on 10/17/2012 3:49:16 PM PDT by trappedincanuckistan (livefreeordietryin)
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To: mojito

As a personal favor to me (and I know you don’t know me) would you refrain from posing from Mother Jones?

There are some rags I just don’t need to be exposed to, and this is first among them. Finding this here is like stumbling across pornography on a Christian website. It’s shocking to the system and upsetting to the spiritual balance.

OK, so you will say it’s “for research”. That’s the same excuse that I’ve heard trotted out by weirdos caught with porn on their work computers - they were just researching. I don’t need this kind of research.

Have a heart!


20 posted on 10/17/2012 3:50:06 PM PDT by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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To: mojito

Apparently ole Kevin does not see national security concerns as important enough for a President to bother with. Guess he, wife and cats are above harm.


21 posted on 10/17/2012 3:50:13 PM PDT by nclaurel
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To: mojito

Bush 41, read my lips


22 posted on 10/17/2012 3:50:53 PM PDT by hadaclueonce (you are paying 12% more for fuel because of Ethanol. Smile big Corn Lobby,)
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To: mojito
Why does anyone care if it took two weeks to decide that Benghazi was an act of terror?

Hey, Kevin, let me see if I can come up with an answer to that for you...

First off, it's been the official Obama regime policy to adamantly deny any terrorist activity on their watch... The "underware bomber?" No, that was foiled! Well yes it was foiled, but NOT by the government, but by the airline passengers. So the government failed to protect US citizens. Or the "Times Square Bomber." Well, it was "foiled too," but again, without the intervention of a civilian in NYC, it could have been a disaster. Again, the government failed to protect American citizens. Next is the Fort Hood massacre, which the government announced was "workplace violence." Just because the muslim psycho was shouting "Alahu Ackbar" while shooting doesn't make him a terrorist, even if he had been in contact with Al Alaqi (who the Obama regime terminated with extreme predjudice). Nope, who are you going to believe, your lying ears and eye witnesses at Ft Hood, or the Obama regime.

Now, one of the key talking points of the Obama's reelection team is that Al Queda and terrorists are on the run, vanquished, all thanks to Obama, who killed bin Laden with his bare hands. So when the Obama regime sends out both regime members (like Rice and Hillary!) as well as campaign operatives, like Axelrod, to PURPOSELY lie to the American public just weeks before an election, yes, this IS a big thing.

Some important questions... 1) How did the regime know to blame a video that hardly anyone had seen in months, that had nothing to do with the terrorist attack, but magically appeared to cover for the Egyptian riots... False flag anyone? 2) Why is it that the Ministry of Propaganda refuses to release any information about what happened to the ambassador, such as the early reports that he was repeatedly raped and tortured before being slaughtered?

There are simply too many questions on the topic that makes this a big deal, though the Ministry of Propaganda has been working overtime to hide the fact that the Obama regime is the most lawless administration ever to RULE the White House, making the Clintons look like sheer amateurs. Obama has brought the thugs of Chicago and their lack of ethics to Washington, and unleashed them on the world!

Mark

23 posted on 10/17/2012 3:51:58 PM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: mojito

Hmm, if Mother Jones wants Romney to forget Benghazi, I gotta wonder if that makes it time to double down.

And BTW Kevin, the stink is really from O-pussy and the Hildabeast denying requested security well before the attack.

Idiot. Hasn’t figured out that none of these people should have died (or had their dead body sodomized). Wouldn’t have if Obozo wasn’t an incompetent narcissist.

I have said many times and will again and again, the cheapest thing of the least value to liberals is human life.


24 posted on 10/17/2012 3:52:40 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: mojito

It’s long past time for leftists to shut up. You can’t get a straight answer out of this Administration, and the Administration, along with their media supporters like this guy, want the whole thing to go away.

By the way, the Administration keeps changing its story, with no regard to what the reality was. Apparently they think the public is so stupid, they can tell the public anything.


25 posted on 10/17/2012 3:52:40 PM PDT by popdonnelly (The first priority is get Obama out of the White House.)
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To: trappedincanuckistan
When Romney pressed Obama on Benghazi Obama asked Crowley to check the transcript.....

Why would Candy have that particular transcript right in front of her, and how did Obama know she had it in front of her? Coordination?

Holy Moly! I missed that entirely. Is that quote accurate? I don't want to watch the debate again.

That seems awful convenient, great catch!

26 posted on 10/17/2012 3:52:55 PM PDT by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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To: trappedincanuckistan

” Why would Candy have that particular transcript right in front of her, and how did Obama know she had it in front of her? Coordination?”

Obama and Crowley rehearsed this in private.


27 posted on 10/17/2012 3:52:59 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: mojito

Obama lied and Americans died. Radical leftwing politics is worth much more to leftwing scum than American lives. I will be so glad when that whole crew of human debris are flushed from the White House.


28 posted on 10/17/2012 3:53:55 PM PDT by Proud2BeRight
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To: mojito

Um Kevin read this article and then call me in the morning.

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2012/10/16/how_the_russian_reset_explains_obama_s_foreign_policy?page=full


29 posted on 10/17/2012 3:54:50 PM PDT by Snuph ("give me Liberty...")
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To: mojito
Holy Crap! Read the comments at Mother Jones. They are all negative ALL negative against O’Bumbler.

I am a Conservative, I have never been to MOJO before, yet every comment slams the writer and O’Bumbler.

If this is anything like election day, O’Bumbler may be forced to vacate the White Hut the seventh of November and not even get the chance to wait for January.

30 posted on 10/17/2012 3:54:59 PM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Obviously, but how come Rush or Hannity hasn’t picked up on this (that I know of)? TRo me it is proof there is collusion going on.


31 posted on 10/17/2012 3:56:08 PM PDT by trappedincanuckistan (livefreeordietryin)
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To: mojito

Because an act of war on an American embassy last month is not as big a deal as an edited tape at a fund raiser last May?


32 posted on 10/17/2012 3:56:18 PM PDT by AndyTheBear
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To: Jim from C-Town

The “fix” was in....

It is SOOO obvious that the Crowley “fact check” was coordinated with Obama in advance.

At: :14 Romney starts he statement about how Obama did not call the attack terrorism.

At :29 Obama smugly tells Romney to proceed.

At :38 Obama tells Crowley “Get the transcript!”

At: :39 (possibly before the word transcript even completely leaves Obama’s mouth) Crowley states “he did in fact”


33 posted on 10/17/2012 3:57:18 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: mojito

Guess what Mother F***er Jones? The next debate in Florida on Monday is about foreign affairs. What an opportunity to explore the President’s and his employees insistence in saying the whole thing was caused by a stupid movie for three weeks after it happened. Why did they refuse to call it a terrorist attack? By the time the 90 minutes are over the public will know that not only is Obama a disaster with the economy, he’s a utter and complete failure at foreign relations. Sorry Candy or Bob Schieffer can’t run cover for you Obama.
Maybe he can explain his close relationship with the Muslim Brotherhood, what his plans are for Syria, why has he dissed Israel, and does he really think Iran is not close to developing a nuclear bomb? Can’t wait to see the worm squirm.


34 posted on 10/17/2012 3:58:08 PM PDT by Harley (Those that don't engage in politics are destined to be governed by inferiors. -Plato)
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what I really wonder is: how has this become a serious question anyway?

Why?

Because sweeping it under the rug makes it appear as though Obama was complicit in the murder of the Ambassador.

There, I said it.

35 posted on 10/17/2012 3:58:25 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month)
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To: trappedincanuckistan

Please see post 33.


36 posted on 10/17/2012 3:58:29 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: John Valentine

John, I feel your pain, and normally I try to steer clear of MJ, for the very same spiritual reasons you cite.

But this...this was just so outrageous that my better judgment forsook me and I had to post it.

In other words, the devil made me do it.


37 posted on 10/17/2012 3:59:28 PM PDT by mojito (Zero, our Nero.)
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To: mojito
Will Romney continue to conduct an inquisition of exactly what Obama said when on the Libya killings...?

Rhetorical question of the century.

38 posted on 10/17/2012 4:01:55 PM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: mojito
The flak is heaviest when you are over the target!

They didn't give Abu Ghraib a rest. They didn't give Nixon a rest over Watergate... nobody died for either of those screwups...

How about focusing back on Fast & Furious and BENGHAZI!

     


39 posted on 10/17/2012 4:04:26 PM PDT by Bon mots (Abu Ghraib: 47 Times on the front page of the NY Times | Benghazi: 2 Times)
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To: mojito

FUMJ !!


40 posted on 10/17/2012 4:05:19 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: stephenjohnbanker

bttt


41 posted on 10/17/2012 4:10:02 PM PDT by Bradís Gramma (PRAY for this country like your life depends on it......because it DOES!)
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To: hadaclueonce

Thank you for that. Tweeted it to the author.


42 posted on 10/17/2012 4:10:07 PM PDT by John W (Viva Cristo Rey!)
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To: John Valentine

“Mother Jones?”

JONES is code for OBAMA.


43 posted on 10/17/2012 4:10:21 PM PDT by BilLies (The Progressive Liberal American Press will be the death of freedom in this country.)
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To: Lx
I wonder if Kevin is actually Candy in drag ? because for the life of me that's exactly what Candy Crowley tried to do last night in the debate is to move on with another question because she knew Obama was not to comfortable with that Benghazi question.
The reason why Candy Kevin wants Romney to move on is purely political because it makes Obama look really bad and guilty.
Sorry Candy Kevin... Benghazi ain't going away, and guess what Candy Kevin ? you are as just as complicit in this as the rest of the MSM.
44 posted on 10/17/2012 4:13:33 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: mojito
MOTHER JONES ? BITE ME !

Kevin ? NO ONE DIED IN THE WATERGATE SCANDAL AND NO ONE DIED AT ABU-GRAPES THAT THE MEDIA HARPED ABOUT FOR WEEKS ON END 24/7.
45 posted on 10/17/2012 4:18:36 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: stephenjohnbanker

We’re talking about this, but why isn’t Breitbart or Rush or someone all over this?


46 posted on 10/17/2012 4:21:24 PM PDT by trappedincanuckistan (livefreeordietryin)
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To: spawn44

Obama stated the he, assuming a Presidential moment, immediately order hightened security at Benghazi and at all other embassies worldwide.

Where the HELL was this order 24 hours earlier!!!!!

Yes! I closed the barn door after all of the horses were gone. It took such courage that you can never immagine to do what I did not do in a timely and obvious manner. Please re-elect me so that I can further demonstrate my incompetance on a world stage.

Bengahzi is important. So are the lies and liars


47 posted on 10/17/2012 4:22:15 PM PDT by dirtymac
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To: trappedincanuckistan

” We’re talking about this, but why isn’t Breitbart or Rush or someone all over this?”

I think Breitbart is, but evidently, not Rush.


48 posted on 10/17/2012 4:23:42 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: John W

Thanks, after two beers, tweet would get me in trouble.


49 posted on 10/17/2012 4:26:03 PM PDT by hadaclueonce (you are paying 12% more for fuel because of Ethanol. Smile big Corn Lobby,)
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To: Lx

I’m just one of a few that caught it. Look to stephenjohnbanker’s post #33.


50 posted on 10/17/2012 4:32:33 PM PDT by trappedincanuckistan (livefreeordietryin)
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