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10.17.12 | Chickensoup

Posted on 10/17/2012 4:30:32 PM PDT by Chickensoup

I have had a website for the past 12 years. A nice website that needs a revamping. I plan on firing her up and having fun next quarter.

I found a nice local guy who can revamp it onto a wordpress softwear package and he had some nice ideas to add to the design. Price of the revamp is resonalbe I think, in the 3K range but I do have to move to his host site. and I will be moving the content over onto wordpress once the skeleton is in place. It includes the training. I have about 150 pages.

I have a logo. It isnt very clear. The tech says he needs the original which was a 8x10 ssilhouette of me that was shrunk down to logo size (I was so cute!) He says I need to come up with the silhouette in order to upgrade it, it is a little murky. I have not been able to find the silhouette original. Is there a way that the current silhouette can be enhanced?


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I have had a website for the past 12 years. A nice website that needs a revamping. I plan on firing her up and having fun next quarter.

I found a nice local guy who can revamp it onto a wordpress softwear package and he had some nice ideas to add to the design. Price of the revamp is resonalbe I think, in the 3K range but I do have to move to his host site. and I will be moving the content over onto wordpress once the skeleton is in place. It includes the training. I have about 150 pages.

I have a logo. It isnt very clear. The tech says he needs the original which was a 8x10 ssilhouette of me that was shrunk down to logo size (I was so cute!) He says I need to come up with the silhouette in order to upgrade it, it is a little murky. I have not been able to find the silhouette original. Is there a way that the current silhouette can be enhanced?

1 posted on 10/17/2012 4:30:41 PM PDT by Chickensoup
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To: Chickensoup

He also says google analyticals are the best. Opinion?


2 posted on 10/17/2012 4:32:15 PM PDT by Chickensoup (STOP The Great O-ppression)
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To: Chickensoup

Google analyticals are good if you don’t mind Google getting information about you which they then do whatever with.

How much does the guy want to host your site? Key consideration. Why must hosting be part of the deal? Why does “revamping your website” have to include “host your site on my server?”

“Enhancing” your logo without the original image is going to be tough.


3 posted on 10/17/2012 4:35:39 PM PDT by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: Chickensoup; Lazamataz

Have you asked Laz?


4 posted on 10/17/2012 4:36:32 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: Chickensoup

I would have to see it but it sounds like an old photo, correct? If it’s just a shadowed silhouette, you could use the low quality version as a template and redraw in a vector format or bring into Photoshop and basicaly redraw a better quality, larger version with some effects.

But really, it depends on what you mean by silhouette. When I think silhouette, I think black against white type image.


5 posted on 10/17/2012 4:36:32 PM PDT by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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To: Steely Tom

I think that he probably makes some monies out of the hosting and he is on call and will do minor work and fixes on the site that he hosts.


6 posted on 10/17/2012 4:38:08 PM PDT by Chickensoup (STOP The Great O-ppression)
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To: Chickensoup

Look into Clover. Good and cutting edge do-it-yourself stuff.


7 posted on 10/17/2012 4:38:10 PM PDT by jettester (I got paid to break 'em - not fly 'em)
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To: Steely Tom

Not “his” server, but the server he is contracted with.


8 posted on 10/17/2012 4:39:01 PM PDT by Chickensoup (STOP The Great O-ppression)
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To: Chickensoup

Google Analytics is tracking you right now. Here on FR, now. For some reason, Jim is OK with this.


9 posted on 10/17/2012 4:39:08 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: Cyber Liberty

No. Why?


10 posted on 10/17/2012 4:39:40 PM PDT by Chickensoup (STOP The Great O-ppression)
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To: Chickensoup

$3K is a bit much if he’s just creating a Wordpress template and you do the loading. Wordpress is available for free, and comes pre-installed on many hosting sites, including GoDaddy. Many templates available for free.


11 posted on 10/17/2012 4:40:13 PM PDT by frankenMonkey (will do graphics for food...)
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To: riri; Chickensoup
You can vectorize an image at VectorMagic. You get to do two free, then you have to pay. It's $7.95/mo, three months minimum, all-you-can-eat. At least that's what it was last time I checked.
12 posted on 10/17/2012 4:40:58 PM PDT by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: Chickensoup; Lazamataz

Laz is a world-class web designer is why. He’s a bit off, but so are all artists.


13 posted on 10/17/2012 4:42:00 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: riri

I cannot make the sillohete paste here.


14 posted on 10/17/2012 4:42:07 PM PDT by Chickensoup (STOP The Great O-ppression)
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To: Cyber Liberty

from what I understand the bots are everywhere and whther or not I get the analytics, google already has them.


15 posted on 10/17/2012 4:43:40 PM PDT by Chickensoup (STOP The Great O-ppression)
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To: Chickensoup
Not “his” server, but the server he is contracted with.

OK, so how much?

The service I've been with for several years has a "personal plan" for $10/month. I say that by way of a point of reference.

16 posted on 10/17/2012 4:44:23 PM PDT by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: Steely Tom

I just did this and it is sharp but I lost my lips.


17 posted on 10/17/2012 4:47:37 PM PDT by Chickensoup (STOP The Great O-ppression)
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To: Chickensoup
I just did this and it is sharp but I lost my lips.

Yeah, that's why it's "tough." It's hard to replace information once it's gone.

Could you just draw it yourself? I use MS Paint for all kinds of drawing stuff. Maybe you can do it from memory.

18 posted on 10/17/2012 4:50:06 PM PDT by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: Steely Tom

Which format should I download it in: PDF, EPS SVG, PNG? It was in GIF


19 posted on 10/17/2012 4:51:30 PM PDT by Chickensoup (STOP The Great O-ppression)
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To: Steely Tom

The one I have now is 15 per month. His is about 280 a year


20 posted on 10/17/2012 4:53:45 PM PDT by Chickensoup (STOP The Great O-ppression)
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To: Chickensoup

VectorMagic will take pretty much any pixel-based format and return an SVG (there are some other output formats they provide but that’s the one I’ve used).

If you have an SVG it’s already “vectorized.” If you have an SVG of the original, you’re set.


21 posted on 10/17/2012 4:55:24 PM PDT by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: Chickensoup

Also remember I am a technical idiot and will need some handholding. I know enough to make me dangerous.


22 posted on 10/17/2012 4:55:30 PM PDT by Chickensoup (STOP The Great O-ppression)
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To: Steely Tom

Thank you. I will play with it. It is perfect except for the lips.


23 posted on 10/17/2012 5:01:05 PM PDT by Chickensoup (STOP The Great O-ppression)
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To: Chickensoup

What has to be done is to trace what picture you have in either illustrator or flash in vector format. Once that is done, you can make it any size you want.


24 posted on 10/17/2012 5:01:06 PM PDT by numberonepal (First they came for Sarah, then they came for Herman.....e)
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To: Chickensoup

3K for a Wordpress site? Crazy, he is going to modify a template (limited and restrictive to changes). I program every line from scratch (borrow some code for dynamic content). Second, you would be foolish to allow someone to hold your domain and content hostage. I make clients pay for their own hosting accounts which costs them around $8.00 a month. Every single item is their property and control (domain and content).

This way the client always has the option to hire someone else if they are not satisfied. I want them to have the security of firing me. Web designers that force you to use them for hosting want to give you the feeling of being trapped. The hardest thing about taking on a new job is getting the domain and content from the old designer in a lot of cases.

As far as the image is concern anyone that can not sharpen a silhouette is not a graphic designer. There are several ways to sharpen the image in Photoshop and since it is a silhouette it is easy to make it a vector image in Illustrator.


25 posted on 10/17/2012 5:02:31 PM PDT by BushCountry (I hope the Mayans are wrong!)
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To: numberonepal

It did it at vector magic but no lips. I need lips


26 posted on 10/17/2012 5:04:05 PM PDT by Chickensoup (STOP The Great O-ppression)
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To: Chickensoup
The one I have now is 15 per month. His is about 280 a year

That's a little high but not outrageously so. Of course, it depends on how much bandwidth (how many hits) your website gets.

Does he give you the password to the folder with your index.html file? If not, he owns you; you'll have to go through him for every change/update. $$$.

27 posted on 10/17/2012 5:04:08 PM PDT by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: Steely Tom

Yes because once I am trained I am up and running I change and manage the site add pages, change content, upload download and have fun.

I will be looking for sponsors too! Cute ones.


28 posted on 10/17/2012 5:07:20 PM PDT by Chickensoup (STOP The Great O-ppression)
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To: Chickensoup
Yes because once I am trained I am up and running I change and manage the site add pages, change content, upload download and have fun.

I will be looking for sponsors too! Cute ones.

So you gotta get the password from him. No password no deal.

I'm not very cute, I'm sorry to say.

29 posted on 10/17/2012 5:09:48 PM PDT by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: Steely Tom

The only password he will get is to Wordpress content management to allow him make small changes to the content but not change the theme or have control over his files.


30 posted on 10/17/2012 5:16:27 PM PDT by BushCountry (I hope the Mayans are wrong!)
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To: Steely Tom

I expect to control everything. I did before...

he came up with some good ideas on makeing the first page look good. He also is the first person who didnt try to talk me into a dynamic database but instead let me have alll my pages.

Actually I am hoping to find a couple of sponsers and keep the site clean of most ads. I really admire FR and its clean content provision. I would like to do somewhat the same, and sponsoers may be the way to work.

Just got a letter from someone who wants to use the content on their web show.


31 posted on 10/17/2012 7:01:10 PM PDT by Chickensoup (STOP The Great O-ppression)
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To: Chickensoup
I use Just Host for hosting.

I use Rapidweaver for developing websites.

Example: Taos Fine Art Photography


32 posted on 10/17/2012 7:02:17 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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To: UriĀ’el-2012

Nice site. beautiful art too!


33 posted on 10/17/2012 7:07:34 PM PDT by Chickensoup (STOP The Great O-ppression)
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To: Chickensoup; Cyber Liberty

Lossy compression and the shrinking of an image (which results in great data loss) makes these sort of things dicey at best. I would instead recommend a new approach: If you are revamping your website, this might be an ideal time to revamp your logo. Think outside the box!


34 posted on 10/17/2012 7:11:22 PM PDT by Lazamataz (CNN's Candy Boo Boo Child hosed the 10/16 debate. What an Obama-licker!)
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To: Lazamataz

Laz, you want me to re-vamp my face? I had someday hoped to tighten up the chin a bit but...

So when things are made small, data is lost. Didnt know that.

You make a good point. I am going to have to think of what else would work....

Thanks Laz


35 posted on 10/17/2012 7:22:01 PM PDT by Chickensoup (STOP The Great O-ppression)
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To: Chickensoup
If the image is "up" on your website, just use this format:

<img src="http://YourImageURL">

to post it here.

Or, if you don't want to do that, send me the URL via FReepMail, and I'll see what can be done with it in Canvas -- a high-end graphics system with powerful vector AND bitmap manipulation capabilities.

No charge. I'll consider it a challenge and an exercise and a courtesy to a fellow FReeper.

36 posted on 10/18/2012 12:07:16 AM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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To: UriĀ’el-2012
Curious! Your website displays as nothing but solid black, with a little white text -- partially offscreen on the left side -- when viewed with Safari.

Does it depend on Java, Javascript or Flash?

37 posted on 10/18/2012 12:19:35 AM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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To: UriĀ’el-2012
Hmmm... Tried it again and got images. Nice work!

I still get your text and thumbnails displaying half-off the screen on left and right. And changing screen magnification doesn't fix it.

Are you, perchance, using iFrames in HTML5?

If you care to discuss this further, let's take it to FReepMail...

38 posted on 10/18/2012 12:30:38 AM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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To: TXnMA
I am not sure there is a url. I have it on my computer and it wont copy.
39 posted on 10/18/2012 8:12:57 AM PDT by Chickensoup (STOP The Great O-ppression)
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To: TXnMA
I am not sure there is a url. I have it on my computer and it wont copy. I get it you are saying that it has its own url at my website. I am not sure I can find that out yet
40 posted on 10/18/2012 8:13:49 AM PDT by Chickensoup (STOP The Great O-ppression)
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To: BushCountry

The only password he will get is to Wordpress content management to allow him make small changes to the content but not change the theme or have control over his files.

_________________________________

From what I understand, I am purchasing the wordpress and it is mine. I own it all. Whether I manage it is another story, but I own it all. Passwords and all.


41 posted on 10/18/2012 8:15:39 AM PDT by Chickensoup (STOP The Great O-ppression)
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To: TXnMA
I still get your text and thumbnails displaying half-off the screen on left and right. And changing screen magnification doesn't fix it.

Thanks for the insight.

I moved the text & thumbnails to a different page.

Updated the site.


42 posted on 10/18/2012 9:57:38 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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To: Chickensoup

Gotta go to the pixel level for details. I’m not talking about letting the programs trace a bitmap.


43 posted on 10/18/2012 3:46:36 PM PDT by numberonepal (First they came for Sarah, then they came for Herman.....e)
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To: Chickensoup

FReepMail for you — and a “restored” profile silhouette via e-mail...


44 posted on 10/18/2012 9:17:24 PM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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To: Chickensoup; riri; Steely Tom; numberonepal
Here is one method of doing an "approximated restoration" of a degraded profile (done in "Canvas").



  1. Left Image: Original: low resolution RGB with severe "aliasing" (AKA "jaggies")

  2. Center Image: Processing Steps:

    1. Increased resolution

    2. Converted to grayscale

    3. Used "Gaussian Blur" filter to interpolate between "jaggies" to approximate original contour data.

  3. Right Image: Adjusted "threshhold" to "trim" the profile by removing lighter grays to approximate the original contour.

It may be possible to produce a higher-fidelity, smoother restoration by "tweaking" the value of the gray level used for "trimming". Also, a different gaussian blur pixel range might produce a better approximation of the contour...

This is a first attempt; WYSIWYG! '-)

45 posted on 10/19/2012 6:36:35 PM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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To: TXnMA

Wow!


46 posted on 10/19/2012 7:05:13 PM PDT by Chickensoup (STOP The Great O-ppression)
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To: TXnMA

Wow!


47 posted on 10/19/2012 7:05:21 PM PDT by Chickensoup (STOP The Great O-ppression)
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To: Chickensoup
Here's what VectorMagic did with the right-most image you posted:


48 posted on 10/20/2012 3:48:26 PM PDT by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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