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Boy Scouts' 'perversion files': Confidential files go public today
LA Times ^ | 10/18/2012

Posted on 10/18/2012 10:36:52 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd

Decades of confidential sexual abuse allegations from within the Boy Scouts of America will spill into public view later today when more than 1,200 of the organization’s “perversion files” are released by order of the Oregon Supreme Court.

The files will offer the public an unprecedented look at how suspected molestations were handled by one of the nation’s leading youth organizations from the early 1960s through 1985, a time when awareness of sexual abuse was evolving rapidly.

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The abuse reports to be released today played a key role as evidence in a landmark Oregon lawsuit in 2010 that resulted in the largest judgment ever against the Scouts in a molestation case. A jury awarded nearly $20 million to a man who was molested by an assistant scoutmaster in the early 1980s, ruling that the Scouts had failed to protect him.

Afterward, the Boy Scouts petitioned to keep the files closed, a move opposed by media outlets seeking their full disclosure. In June, the Oregon Supreme Court sided with the Oregonian newspaper, the Associated Press, the New York Times, Oregon Public Broadcasting and other outlets and ordered their release after victim information had been redacted.

In recent months, The Times has published a series of stories analyzing an overlapping set of files -- nearly 1,900 cases, opened between 1970 and 1991, given to the newspaper by a Seattle attorney. Among other things, the analysis found that hundreds of allegations of sexual abuse were never reported to law enforcement, and Scouting officials repeatedly helped alleged molesters cover their tracks.

FULL COVERAGE: Inside the 'perversion files'

As The Times reported Wednesday, the files show a clear pattern of “grooming behavior” that allegedmolesters used to seduce their victims, and often to ensure their silence.over their handling of alleged abuse.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimesblogs.latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: boyscouts; bsa; homonaziagenda; homosexualagenda; homosexualgrooming; homosexuallifestyle; homosexualpederasts; homosexualpedophiles; homosexualperverts; homosexualpredators; homosexualrecruiting; perversionfiles; perverts; scouting
The left. Using whatever they can to attack the Boy Scouts.
1 posted on 10/18/2012 10:36:52 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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To: Responsibility2nd

And yet they attack the boy scouts for trying to keep the perverts out.


2 posted on 10/18/2012 10:43:46 AM PDT by edcoil (It is not over until I win.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Sounds like they really need to allow flamers to be scout leaders /s


3 posted on 10/18/2012 10:44:49 AM PDT by wolfman23601
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To: Responsibility2nd

That’s okay. It shows why the boy scouts banned homos.

I know of one bearded homo who managed to die before being outted by a bunch of males he molested. He had a ring going on and the pervs in the scouts would try to get molested boys, who were raised by the pervs to leadership positions, to molest other boys for the homo molestation ring.

Evil exposed to light is the best we can hope for. Don’t be afraid of it. Read it and expose how the homos operate. You might save some public school boys.


4 posted on 10/18/2012 10:52:20 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: Responsibility2nd

Yep——and to force homosexuals to be in charge of young boys like Germany allowed in the late 1800’s, which led to homosexual orgies in the woods with the boys. It was no wonder homosexuality became the National Vice of that country and the Weimar Republic was the most decadent vulgar culture to be spawned from such evil, dysfunctional behavior which gave way to Hitler.

Why would the Left want to force homosexuality into the Boy Scouts and Military?—It will collapse the culture. Vice destroys Virtue when it is forced into any organization. It is like putting a rotten apple into a barrel.

Just governments have to promote Public Virtue. Virtue is excellence—and there is nothing positive about sodomy. It is a Vice and evil and should still be a felony because of the intimate, destructive nature of the activity. And it ALWAYS includes the boys, since it is learned behavior, like the little Afghani boys prove.


5 posted on 10/18/2012 10:52:35 AM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: Responsibility2nd

The Boy Scouts don’t allow heterosexuals to be alone with Scouts. They don’t risk any potential liability.


6 posted on 10/18/2012 11:00:41 AM PDT by popdonnelly (The first priority is get Obama out of the White House.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Activity that LA Times honchos would legalize utilized to undermine an organization diametrically opposed to their perverted worldview.

Typical Alinskyite and communist tactic.


7 posted on 10/18/2012 11:11:56 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: Responsibility2nd
Please.

From James Brady to Stephen Breyer to Sherrod Brown, Mike Dukakis and Lloyd Benson and other Eagle Scouts ruining out nation to the incidents of scouts being taken on trips to die... The Boy Scouts get what they deserve.

8 posted on 10/18/2012 11:33:02 AM PDT by newzjunkey (Osama's dead... and so is our ambassador - Coulter.)
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To: popdonnelly

Yep, it is called 2 deep leadership. Background checks have also been put into place. In my son’s troop as with all troops, there must be two men present at all times with Scouts (unless it is the dad’s son). The Boy Scouts have also instituted Youth Protection. It helps Assistant Scoutmasters recognize signs of abuse. However, as with most situations, it is impossible to insure that no problems will occur in a given situation. If a pervert is determined to become an adult leader in Boy Scouts, he will find a way. Sort of like seat belts in a car. Car manufacturers can install seat belts. But if a person is determined to drive without one, he will.


9 posted on 10/18/2012 11:33:14 AM PDT by drinktheobamakoolaid (How do you replace an empty suit? Vote on November 6, 2012)
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To: newzjunkey

Wow! That’s a lot of hate you have here against the Boy Scouts.

Perhaps YOUR name is included in their Perversion Files? Maybe YOU were molested by a scout leader and they did nothing.


10 posted on 10/18/2012 11:52:43 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

I exposed a scoutmaster in 1972, I think it was

The kid who was the child told me later he stuck by his story

I had to tell the state police and his dad what I had heard, it was my testimony that outed him

I dont know if he is alive anymore, but in my home town, it was hushed up


11 posted on 10/18/2012 12:04:42 PM PDT by RaceBannon (When Chuck Norris goes to bed, he checks under it for Clint Eastwood!)
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To: popdonnelly; Scoutmaster; ScubieNuc; TheGunny; Delhi Rebels; HopeSprings

Boy Scouts ping.

pop makes this statement. “The Boy Scouts don’t allow heterosexuals to be alone with Scouts. They don’t risk any potential liability.”

Is that right.

Also in this thread... “The Boy Scouts get what they deserve.”

I’m guessing a certain FReeper SUPPORTS homo scout leaders.


12 posted on 10/18/2012 12:05:26 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Five stories about this, and not one used the word “Homosexual” or “Gay”, even though virtually every one of the claims has been of homosexual child abuse.


13 posted on 10/18/2012 12:05:37 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: RaceBannon

I dont know if he is alive anymore, but in my home town, it was hushed up

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I would hope it was hushed up to spare the boy and his family from pain and embarrassment.

And I would hope the perv went to jail for a long time.


14 posted on 10/18/2012 12:09:02 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Yes, but isn’t it nice they use the term “Perversion Files” when it comes to describing the actions of sick gay homosexuals.


15 posted on 10/18/2012 12:11:29 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

no, there was no prosecution, for the reasons you said


16 posted on 10/18/2012 12:16:12 PM PDT by RaceBannon (When Chuck Norris goes to bed, he checks under it for Clint Eastwood!)
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To: newzjunkey

As a father of a soon-to-be Eagle Scout, your post is offensive as hell!

Keep your hatred and bigotry it to yourself.


17 posted on 10/18/2012 12:22:51 PM PDT by TexanByBirth (Free Republic: where they may agree with the message, but they love to shoot the messenger!)
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To: newzjunkey

As a father of a soon-to-be Eagle Scout, your post is offensive as hell!

Keep your hatred and bigotry to yourself.


18 posted on 10/18/2012 12:23:51 PM PDT by TexanByBirth (Free Republic: where they may agree with the message, but they love to shoot the messenger!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

“Is that right.”

Yes. Every adult leader or parent that accompanies kids on outings is required to annually qualify for youth protection. That includes detailed descriptions of the “two deep policy.”

I like the policy. It means I’m protected against crazy accusations because there is always another adult witness. It makes merit badge counseling harder because you need another adult there.


19 posted on 10/18/2012 12:27:31 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: Responsibility2nd

From what I know about the scouts (my son is working on his Eagle Scout) they make sure that no scout is alone with a single adult. They must have two or more leaders with scouts or individuals.

I suspect it is to keep the chance for sexual molestation limited.

I read the tripe from the “boy scouts get what they deserve” idiot too. I wonder if he is a gay who was trying to become a leader. I work with an old queen that says pretty much the same. He hates the BSA because of their stance on letting gays be leaders.

Looks like someone just “outted” themselves on FR.


20 posted on 10/18/2012 12:29:22 PM PDT by History Repeats (sic transit gloria mundi)
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To: ModelBreaker

Thanks for that info.

It makes sense. Better safe than sorry.

But isn’t it sad that this is a necessary precaution?

Isn’t it sad that queers have brought America down to this level?


21 posted on 10/18/2012 12:30:38 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: newzjunkey
The Boy Scouts get what they deserve.
That sounds like San Francisco Values.
22 posted on 10/18/2012 12:59:41 PM PDT by SmithL
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To: SmithL; newzjunkey

GAY TROLL

Spewed a hate comment against the Boy Scouts, and for over an hour, has made no response to any return comments.

A look at (it’s) homepage reveals the individual doesn’t want anyone to know what state (he/she/?) lives in, and the only other thing on the page is HI.

Wonder if it stands for Homosexual Infiltrator ?

CAT GOT YOUR TONGUE NOW, NEWZJUNKEY ?


23 posted on 10/18/2012 2:21:58 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 ( If you think I'm crazy, just wait until you talk to my invisible friend.)
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To: newzjunkey

Wow that is just brilliant...


24 posted on 10/18/2012 2:48:59 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
pop makes this statement. “The Boy Scouts don’t allow heterosexuals to be alone with Scouts. They don’t risk any potential liability.”

Is that right.

The Boy Scouts have a policy of two-deep leadership. However, as with any rule, some people don't follow the rules.

For example, the Boy Scouts limit certain high adventure activities to Scouts fourteen years of age or older. However, there are Troops that permit younger Scouts to engage in those high adventure activities.

25 posted on 10/18/2012 3:25:19 PM PDT by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Just proves that there are homos in the Scouts - shouldn’t the moonbats be happy about that?


26 posted on 10/18/2012 3:27:28 PM PDT by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Still bitterly clinging to rational thought despite it's unfashionability)
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To: Responsibility2nd

These are justifications why you keep the homos and pedos and pervs out of the Scouts. They’ll lie and connive to get at young impressionable boys.

Get them out, keep them out.


27 posted on 10/18/2012 4:51:59 PM PDT by A_Former_Democrat
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To: CharlesWayneCT
Five stories about this, and not one used the word “Homosexual” or “Gay”, even though virtually every one of the claims has been of homosexual child abuse.

Well, since there probably aren't any females involved, the proper term for them is "pederasts"...either that or disease-ridden, boy-raping faggots.

28 posted on 10/18/2012 5:01:52 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month)
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To: wolfman23601

Now if the Catholic Church would just ban homos from being priests...


29 posted on 10/18/2012 5:16:04 PM PDT by turn_to
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To: Responsibility2nd; popdonnelly; drinktheobamakoolaid; ModelBreaker; History Repeats; Scoutmaster
15. Yes, but isn’t it nice they use the term “Perversion Files” when it comes to describing the actions of sick gay homosexuals.

Actually, BSA uses the term "ineligible volunteer" files.

6. The Boy Scouts don’t allow heterosexuals to be alone with Scouts. They don’t risk any potential liability.

9. Yep, it is called 2 deep leadership. ...

19. Every adult leader or parent that accompanies kids on outings is required to annually qualify for youth protection. That includes detailed descriptions of the “two deep policy.” I like the policy. ...

20. From what I know about the scouts ... they make sure that no scout is alone with a single adult. They must have two or more leaders with scouts or individuals.

25. ... The Boy Scouts have a policy of two-deep leadership. However, as with any rule, some people don't follow the rules.

Below is a message from a volunteer Scouter who sits on his council's (St. Petersburg, FL) executive board. I read elsewhere several months ago (can't find the source right now) that the UMC's national governing committee was considering putting the BSA's quasi-DADT membership policy on its agenda for a meeting in early 2013. The UMC barely defeated a measure back in May 2012 which would have re-defined marriage to include homosexuals.

http://www.scouter.com/forums/viewThread.asp?threadID=370998
Posted: Thursday, 10/18/2012: 1:49:08 PM
by Tokala
Senior Forum Member
Registered: 5/5/2008
Location: St. Pete, FL

We had our Council Executive Committee meeting today. Found out from our Membership VP that the United Methodist Churches will be holding up all recharters starting January 1, 2013. With the numerous lawsuits concerning abuse, they have concerns about liability. There is some agreement that they expect the Council to sign in order to have charters at any UMC in our Council. Apparently, this will go state-wide today throughout Florida. Obviously, we'll just being forwarding this to National since it's not something the Council can agree to and must be dealt with at a National level between the BSA and UMC. Shouldn't take long for this to spread throughout the country and cross over into the other chartering organizations.

30 posted on 10/18/2012 5:28:02 PM PDT by MacNaughton
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To: savagesusie

We’ve long ago lost the definition to Leftwing obsequiousness and homosexuality. Vir - man and virtus = manliness.

VIRTUE, n. vur’’tu. [L. virtus, from vireo, or its root. See Worth.] The radical sense is strength, from straining, stretching, extending. This is the primary sense of L. vir, a man.]

1. Strength; that substance or quality of physical bodies, by which they act and produce effects on other bodies. In this literal and proper sense, we speak of the virtue or virtues of plants in medicine, and the virtues of drugs. In decoctions, the virtues of plants are extracted. By long standing in the open air, the virtues are lost.

2. Bravery valor. This was the predominant signification of virtus among the Romans.

Trust to thy single virtue.

[This sense is nearly or quite obsolete.]

3. Moral goodness; the practice of moral duties and the abstaining from vice, or a conformity of life and conversation to the moral law. In this sense, virtue may be, and in many instances must be, distinguished from religion. The practice of moral duties merely from motives of convenience, or from compulsion, or from regard to reputation, is virtue, as distinct from religion. The practice of moral duties from sincere love to God and his laws, is virtue and religion. In this sense it is true,

That virtue only makes our bliss below.

Virtue is nothing but voluntary obedience to truth.

4. A particular moral excellence; as the virtue of temperance, of chastity, of charity.

Remember all his virtues.

5. Acting power; something efficacious.

Jesus, knowing that virtue had gone out of him, turned - Mark 3.

6. Secret agency; efficacy without visible or material action.

She moves the body which she doth possess,

Yet no part toucheth, but by virtue’’s touch.

7. Excellence; or that which constitutes value and merit.

- Terence, who thought the sole grace and virtue of their fable, the sticking in of sentences.

8. One of the orders of the celestial hierarchy.

Thrones, dominations, princedoms, virtues, powers.

9. Efficacy; power.

He used to travel through Greece by virtue of this fable, which procured him reception in all the towns.

10. Legal efficacy or power; authority. A man administers the laws by virtue of a commission.

In virtue, in consequence; by the efficacy or authority.

This they shall attain, partly in virtue of the promise of God, and partly in virtue of piety.


31 posted on 10/18/2012 7:04:17 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Putting homos and boys together is a certain recipe for sexual predation. Just ask the Catholics what the homo infiltration did for them. It is the lifestyle portion still hidden in the gay closet.


32 posted on 10/18/2012 7:07:47 PM PDT by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Funny how queers are always telling us homosexuality & pedophilia aren’t related, & yet we hear so many child molestation cases coming from their “community”


33 posted on 10/18/2012 9:24:30 PM PDT by NerdOfReason
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To: Responsibility2nd
No quarrels with that. If you are interested, you can take the boy scout youth protection training online.

http://www.scouting.org/Training/YouthProtection.aspx It's pretty comprehensive and the troops I know about are serious about it.

34 posted on 10/18/2012 9:41:04 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: MacNaughton

“We had our Council Executive Committee meeting today. Found out from our Membership VP that the United Methodist Churches will be holding up all recharters starting January 1, 2013. With the numerous lawsuits concerning abuse, they have concerns about liability. There is some agreement that they expect the Council to sign in order to have charters at any UMC in our Council. Apparently, this will go state-wide today throughout Florida. Obviously, we’ll just being forwarding this to National since it’s not something the Council can agree to and must be dealt with at a National level between the BSA and UMC. Shouldn’t take long for this to spread throughout the country and cross over into the other chartering organizations.”

That’s depressing. Sounds like we’re going to be needing to find different places to meet here soon. I know the scouts will make do.

It’s ironic that the people who caused the problem (homosexuals) have successfully forced the boy scouts out of the mainstream by exposing their own wrongdoing and blaming it on the scouts.


35 posted on 10/18/2012 9:43:56 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: Responsibility2nd

Why can’t they just be honest and call them the “homo files.”


36 posted on 10/18/2012 11:34:44 PM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: drinktheobamakoolaid

Dont confuse two deep leadership with no one on one contact.

Two deep leadership means there are two adults present at all troop level events, at least one of whom is BSA Youth Protection Trained and 21 years of age or older, and the other may be the parent or guardian of a scout present. The second adult can also be another BSA Adult Leader who is youth protection trained, but may be under 21. It does not mean that everywhere a scout goes when on a scout outing there are two adults present. There is also no limit to the number of scouts two adults can take on a troop level event, and one of the adults can be female.

No one one one contact means an adult scouter cannot ever be alone with an individual scout. Even scoutmaster conferences need to be held in open view, like in a quiet corner of a meeting room or off to the side during a camping trip.

Boys can still do day events on their own, like hikes and service projects, with no adults present. But patrol overnight camping is no longer allowed without two adults present, one of whom is a registered, youth protection trained adult.

http://www.scouting.org/Training/YouthProtection.aspx


37 posted on 10/19/2012 10:07:30 PM PDT by MrNeutron1962
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