Posted on 10/18/2012 9:27:27 PM PDT by TigerClaws
His number was 300. That’s a fact. He was covered by that lottery. Had he been deferred to that point by student or other legitimate deferments he would gave been draft-able after they expired. With a 300 he never would have been touched. I’m nearly his age and I pulled a 325.
You ignored that entire post 100.
The draft evading Romney did not come up for that lottery until years after he had been evading the draft.
The draft doesn’t have anything to do with a man serving his country anyway.
Mitt was unwilling to serve his nation, it is an unbroken family tradition that his line has never strayed from, and that includes his five boys.
Romneys run for Commander in Chief, for wealth and power and prestige, but we have never gotten one to put on the uniform of soldier.
I ignored nothing, you’re projecting because you paid no attention to what I said. If he had legitimate student or religious deferments and they expired upon graduation or return from his mission then he would have been 1-A for one year. With a 300 in the lottery he never would have been drafted. Vietnam was the most disastrous bit of bipartisan foreign policy in the history of the nation; I don’t blame anyone for not volunteering.
As I said, Mitt evaded the draft for years the best way was his 30 month Mormon deferment “the lottery came years after Romney came of military age and avoided military service first with student deferments, and then with a special [30 month] deferment from the Mormon church, from his dad’s ward, which sent him to France while his father campaigned as an anti-war candidate, a deferment that was not available to black Mormons, and which the government banned after national uproars and legal challenges to the Mormons being in charge of passing out deferments to their young males.”
Eventually Mitt escaped the threat of serving his country when he got a high number in the 1969 lottery.
Vietnam was a war fought overwhelmingly by volunteers, unlike WWII, a war that many millions of us volunteered for, there was no reason for a patriot to evade and avoid service from 1964 to the late 1970s like Mitt Romney did.
Why has no man in his line ever served in their 170 year history? Why do you denigrate military service for the decade of Vietnam and support the anti-military types like Mitt?
I too was well above draftable age when the draft lottery was held but it’s the lottery that decided my fate as well as Romney’s as regards the Vietnam war. I certainly don’t denigrate those who served but I’m well aware no positive good whatsoever came out of it other than it taught me and millions more to NEVER trust the government again.
As regards 170 years of genealogy, I was unaware we were all responsible for our great-great grandparents behaviour.
Romney simply avoided military service as a cowardly draft evader, for years before the 1969 lottery.
Evidently you chose to avoid serving us as well as you continue to denigrate America and veterans of the era when you avoided service.
The lottery definitely did not decide Mitt’s fate, it didn’t even decide yours, lack of patriotism seems to have been the motivation for you two individuals.
I can see why you grovel before the Romney’s perfect 170 year record of no service.
Your using the excuses that a war was going on, or that the draft was not widespread enough to snag you, is lame, but then so is Mitt and his families lack of patriotism.
I don’t have a clue who this is, but he’s a poor deluded soul if he believes anyone cares about his little hissy fit - and making fun of Tagg Romney’s name - how 7th grade!
I’m curious, is he always this unhinged?
Stop snorting your meds. I won’t respond to your pitifully miscrafted strawmen. I suggest you try to enumerate all the benefits that came to the US as a result of the Vietnam war. What did the 57K American lives lost win us? Name one benefit. Just one. Try.
Now quit trying, there weren’t any. Those lives were pissed away by politicians; pointing that out is not a denigration of soldiers, it’s an indictment of over-reaching government. I thought people knew that thirty years ago.
You really are a pitiful excuse for a Freeper. Anything that comes out of your mouth is pure garbage. I hope Romney wins just so I can laugh at your tears.
LOL, changing the subject to cover for your and Mitt’s lack of patriotism and your desire to avoid military service only reveals the shame that haunts you, and which makes you bitter and obviously angry.
We don’t need to know your politics or view of various wars to know that Mitt Romney evaded military service while supporting the war for others, even while his father campaigned to run the war as president, primarily by pulling strings to get a deferment not available to black Mormons, his sons are just like him, and his entire line has made it a firm rule to never wear the uniform.
Sorry, couldn’t get to that part. Hard to watch.
What a pitiful post, being nothing but a childish outburst and personal attack, there just isn’t anything to answer.
I don’t know what your complaint is, did you think the Romneys were an old patriotic family, or what?
I’m not bitter or angry just a bit amused to see just much “courage” and “fighting spirit” there is this side of 1975.
Thanks by the way for admitting you can find no reason for the US to have been in Vietnam. It leaves unanswered your apparent fondness for unprovoked killing but that’s on you.
I don't get your point since I am the only one that you are posting to and I already told you that I enlisted during the war. It is clear that you can't discuss presidential candidate Romney in regards to military service, because you seem ashamed and bitter of your own 1960s history, and keep trying to change the topic to the massively complex history of South East Asia, Communism and everything else that goes into discussing a war and about 40 to 60 years of complicated global history, evidently this is how you cope with some internal issue, because the topic is Romney, and the candidate's family accomplishment of a 170 year unbroken record of refusing to serve, not you, nor your opinion that it was wrong to serve in the American military during his (and your) decade long period of eligibility.
I have many opinions on the era, but they don't have anything to do with the Romneys, and Mitt, and his sons, and his disgraceful draft evading and their obsession with avoiding serving.
Why were we there? What did we get out of it?
Is this a joke? You are a freeper and while defending the anti-military Romneys, you also want freepers to explain why patriotic Americans enlist in the military?
I don’t know why the Romneys are so dead set against serving their country, but they have worked hard enough at it that since coming here to personally serve the cult leader Joseph Smith in 1842, after joining the cult in England, no Romney in Mitt’s direct line has served our nation in uniform.
The Romneys not only have never served, but they actually left the United States, since they came back because of the physical danger in their new country, they have still refused military service, but have run two generations straight for the prestigious and powerful presidential job.
At PMSNBC, it must be a challenge to see who can say the stupidest/most insane thing on a daily basis.
What was gained? Nothing
What was lost ? 57K good men
Why did I oppose it? Does anyone need to ask?
Stop trying to phrase it in terms of soldiers’ honor;it was as issue of politicians’ lies. It was Gallipoli on a multi-year, grand scale.
Quit trying to change the subject, and frankly, no one cares about you, you are merely the type of punk that wasn’t going to serve, and didn’t, it has nothing to do with which decade it was or is, try to get off your own inadequacies, out of yourself, and stay with a topic that interests people, Mitt Romney, the presidential candidate.
Just like the Romneys, they have never served in their 170 years history, they don’t care what decade it is, they just are not going to enlist.
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