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Suspect in Libya Attack, in Plain Sight, Scoffs at U.S.
NYTimes ^ | October 18, 2012 | DAVID D. KIRKPATRICK and STEVEN ERLANGER

Posted on 10/18/2012 10:07:14 PM PDT by Steelfish

Suspect in Libya Attack, in Plain Sight, Scoffs at U.S. By DAVID D. KIRKPATRICK Published: October 18, 2012

BENGHAZI, Libya — Witnesses and the authorities have called Ahmed Abu Khattala one of the ringleaders of the Sept. 11 attack on the American diplomatic mission here. But just days after President Obama reasserted his vow to bring those responsible to justice, Mr. Abu Khattala spent two leisurely hours on Thursday evening at a crowded luxury hotel, sipping mango juice on a patio and scoffing at the threats coming from the American and Libyan governments.

Libya’s fledgling national army is a “national chicken,” Mr. Abu Khattala said, using an Arabic rhyme. Asked who should take responsibility for apprehending the mission’s attackers, he smirked at the idea that the weak Libyan government could possibly do it. And he accused the leaders of the United States of “playing with the emotions of the American people” and “using the consulate attack just to gather votes for their elections.”

Mr. Abu Khattala’s defiance — no authority has even questioned him about the attack, he said, and he has no plans to go into hiding — offered insight into the shadowy landscape of the self-formed militias that have come to constitute the only source of social order in Libya since the fall of Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 20120911; ahmedabukhattala; ahmedkhattala; benghazi; impeachnow; khattala; libya; nationalsecurityfail; waronterror

1 posted on 10/18/2012 10:07:17 PM PDT by Steelfish
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To: Steelfish

Hussein is waiting for the most advantagsuous politcal moment.


2 posted on 10/18/2012 10:12:41 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: BenLurkin

“Hussein is waiting for the most advantageous political moment.”

But, if he sends in a drone or sniper to kill this puke, Obama’s base will complain that he was executed without a trial.

Killing him might offend our new allies in Libya and only make them hate us more.


3 posted on 10/18/2012 10:18:31 PM PDT by garjog (We do not want another four more years of the last four years.)
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To: BenLurkin

o’bidens isn’t going to do anything. He has lost the election and is just biding his time. He could care less.


4 posted on 10/18/2012 10:20:21 PM PDT by gotribe (He's a mack-daddy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AV415yit7Zg)
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To: Steelfish

A sniper needs to take his monkey behind out to meet allah, otherwise known as the devil.


5 posted on 10/18/2012 10:43:25 PM PDT by vpintheak (Occupy your Brain!)
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To: vpintheak

This guy knows he’s untouchable. If Obama starts wacking any of these guys, the others will spill the beans about what really happened (or rather, what was supposed to happen but went awry) in Benghazi.


6 posted on 10/18/2012 10:55:18 PM PDT by kevao (Is your ocean any lower than it was four years ago?)
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To: kevao

I believe you are correct. What happened in Benghazi was not the expected outcome. I don’t know what was, but judging by the response, the Hussein regime expected something else to go down, something they thought they were in control of..


7 posted on 10/18/2012 11:06:49 PM PDT by cardinal4 (Barack Hussein Obama, America's 21st century Edsel..)
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To: garjog

The easiest solution for Obama is to have a list of conservative nation builders developed for Libya, target the top several on the list, demonize them in the press as terrorists, then place them on a drone kill list, then claim to be a hero for killing terrorists accountable for the Benghazi attack.

Yes, trial is appropriate to issue a righteous judgment. Capital punishment would be an appropriate sentence for the guilty and then when executed, the drone attack would be appropriate. Until then, without a Congressional declaration of war, killing random people is equally classifiable as unjust killing, possibly murder.

IMHO, I wouldn’t trust Obama with the responsibilities of a platoon commander in a war zone, but would not be surprised if he simply ordered killings of anybody convenient to satiate his emotions at a whim if he felt he could forcibly influence the willpower of others not to hold him accountable for murder. That’s why we need trials in this situation or else a declaration of war.

It is obvious that 12 years of war on terror has been reversed by this administration from victory to a loss, encouraging the will of our adversaries to attack us again.


8 posted on 10/18/2012 11:10:18 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Cvengr
Until then, without a Congressional declaration of war, killing random people is equally classifiable as unjust killing, possibly murder.

You meant that as a joke right?

9 posted on 10/18/2012 11:50:06 PM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: Cvengr
Until then, without a Congressional declaration of war, killing random people is equally classifiable as unjust killing, possibly murder.

The US military has engaged in hundreds of armed conflicts. Exactly five of those were after formal Declarations of War, the last one of those in 1941.

Was the military committing murder in every one of those undeclared conflicts?

10 posted on 10/19/2012 12:22:50 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Steelfish
"But Mr. Abu Khattala insisted that he had not been part of the aggression at the American compound. He said he had arrived just as the gunfire was beginning to crackle and had sought to break up a traffic jam around the demonstration. After fleeing for a time, he said, he entered the compound at the end of the battle because he was asked to help try to rescue four Libyan guards working for the Americans who were trapped inside. Although the attackers had set fire to the main building, Mr. Abu Khattala said he had not noticed anything burning."

"Still, he said, “we have a very good relationship” with the leaders of Benghazi’s largest militias — which constitute the only security force for the government — from their days fighting together on the front lines of the revolt against Colonel Qaddafi. He even pointedly named two senior leaders of those big brigades, whom he said he had seen outside the mission on the night of the attack."

"Mr. Abu Khattala as a leader of Ansar al-Shariah, whose trucks and fighters were seen attacking the mission. Mr. Abu Khattala praised the group’s members as “good people with good goals, which are trying to implement Islamic law,” and he insisted their network of popular support was vastly underestimated by other brigade leaders who said the group had fewer than 200 fighters.

“It is bigger than a brigade,” he said. “It is a movement.”

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Then this guy is in that 'rescue video' and there is a truck seen in that video, too. With 3 men. There are gunshots heard in the video and at the start of the video you can hear someone tell another--"I bet they kill him". Sheesh! And American Special Operations forces are to create and train an elite Libyan commando force, out of these depraved and evil monsters?!! How many deaths will it be before it is not optimal?

11 posted on 10/19/2012 3:04:39 AM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: cardinal4

Stupid Obama, he made a deal with the devil and was surprised when the devil went back on the deal.


12 posted on 10/19/2012 3:12:01 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (If Obama is an empty chair, then Biden is the whoopee cushion.)
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To: TigersEye

How do you Constitutionally discern between murder and warfare?


13 posted on 10/19/2012 5:43:17 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Cvengr

How do you discern between the 0bama-NATO sacking of Libya in 2011 and a hypothetical attack in the future?


14 posted on 10/19/2012 6:09:59 PM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: TigersEye

I considered both as unlawful incursions and minimally simply unjust without legitimate authority. Burden of proof should be on those seeking to launch the attack without declaration of war. If they are enforcing international law, then that also bears international recognition before the hostilities.


15 posted on 10/19/2012 6:15:24 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Cvengr

Fair enough. Your previous statement seemed to infer that 0bama wasn’t capable of committing forces to undeclared un-Constitutional actions. I took it the wrong way.


16 posted on 10/19/2012 6:40:01 PM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: TigersEye

During the assault on the compound, an attack could be launched in self defense of US soil. It might even be justified after the attack, in response to that violation of international law, but a prudent position would still respect international law and our Constitution, properly informing those legitimate authorities involved.

IMHO, I’d still like to see a trial involved, simply to afford due process, showing not only the charged, but the public that we really were going after the guility party, not simply a politically demonized target to answer mob psychology.


17 posted on 10/19/2012 8:36:34 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Cvengr

It still sounds like you expect 0bama to start obeying the law. Personally I’m more interested in charges brought against him than I am chasing down jihadis all across the African desert after we left the barn door open.


18 posted on 10/19/2012 9:14:22 PM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks Steelfish.
Ahmed Abu Khattala one of the ringleaders of the Sept. 11 attack on the American diplomatic mission here... smirked at the idea that the weak Libyan government could possibly do it... no authority has even questioned him about the attack, he said, and he has no plans to go into hiding...

19 posted on 10/20/2012 9:52:16 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks Steelfish.
Ahmed Abu Khattala one of the ringleaders of the Sept. 11 attack on the American diplomatic mission here... smirked at the idea that the weak Libyan government could possibly do it... no authority has even questioned him about the attack, he said, and he has no plans to go into hiding...

20 posted on 10/20/2012 9:55:28 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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