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Obama: Why Yes, I Am Happy to Drive Us Off the Fiscal Cliff
Townhall.com ^ | October 18, 2012 | Katie Pavlich

Posted on 10/18/2012 10:40:44 PM PDT by Kaslin

According to the Washington Post and administration officials, President Obama is willing to take the country right off the fiscal cliff for short term political gain - with or without reelection.

Freed from the political and economic constraints that have tied his hands in the past, Obama is ready to play hardball with Republicans, who have so far successfully resisted a deal to tame the debt that includes higher taxes, Obama’s allies say.

In the days after the November election, the tables will be turned: Taxes are scheduled to rise dramatically in January for people at all income levels, and Republicans will be unable to stop those automatic increases alone.

If he wins reelection, Obama may finally be able to dictate the terms of a bipartisan debt-reduction deal. And if he loses to Republican Mitt Romney, Obama could make sure that tax rates rise before he hands over the keys to the White House on Inauguration Day in late January.

First off, the looming fiscal cliff situation is typical of Washington politics, waiting until the very last minute to even talk about putting a bandaid on the crisis at hand however, President Obama had months to address this issue with Congress yet failed to do so. Now, Obama seems to be willing to put his own class warfare politics ahead of the country's fiscal health and ahead of all American families who will see a tax increase of thousands of dollars on January 1 if nothing is done. He is willing to punish everyone in order to vilify those he believes make and have too much money. We've been over this before, even if the government confiscated 100% of what millionaires and billionaires have, we would still have a severe financial crisis on our hands with nobody to pay the bills or to create jobs.

If Obama loses in November, which is what the polls are now showing will likely happen, is he really willing to leave behind a legacy of a horrible economy and raising taxes on middle class families for short term political gain? Not to mention, regardless of who wins on Election Day, Paul Ryan will still be the Chairman of the House Budget Committee. Get ready for an interesting lame duck session regardless of who wins the White House.

 


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: barackobama; budgetandgovernment; election2012; fiscalcliff; lameduck; mittromney; paulryan

1 posted on 10/18/2012 10:40:49 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

2 posted on 10/18/2012 10:44:01 PM PDT by Charles Henrickson (Obama gives me trauma, Honey Boo Boo!)
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To: Kaslin

My Hero!

3 posted on 10/18/2012 10:50:44 PM PDT by Brandonmark (2012: Our Hope IS Change!)
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To: Kaslin

And given his pettiness. . . I can see Obama giving us all a final “F*ck You!” by letting it happen when he loses.

The fact that it will make the Democrats radioactive for decades to come is irrelevant: it’s all about HIM.

Then he’ll just retire to his Hawaiian palace, smoke “choom” all day, and be “Bathhouse Barry” at the local hangouts. .


4 posted on 10/18/2012 10:55:08 PM PDT by Salgak (Acme Lasers presents: The Energizer Border. I **DARE** you to cross it. . . .)
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To: Kaslin

Thanks for including the indentation in your post. Many FReepers neglect/don’t know how to do that and their post doesn’t make sense as a result.


5 posted on 10/18/2012 11:07:04 PM PDT by upchuck (Porn, cheaper than dating.)
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To: everyone


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6 posted on 10/18/2012 11:13:00 PM PDT by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: Kaslin
Now you know why they were extended ONLY until the end of the year....leverage.

Clever or stupid?????

7 posted on 10/19/2012 12:14:11 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (r)
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To: Kaslin

He is tbe destroyer of capitalist colonialist America. I daresay he has accomplished his vision to bury the country and promote class warfare. It is not accidental nor inexperience. The agenda of this Manchurian Candidate has been aided and abetted by a ship of liberal fools.


8 posted on 10/19/2012 12:19:57 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: Kaslin

The rememdy?

On Nov. 7, President elect Romney announces that he, the House, and the new Republican majority Senate will be retroactively cancelling the tax increases in January. Meanwhile, non-defense cuts can remain in place.


9 posted on 10/19/2012 2:58:08 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: F15Eagle

If he loses I bet he will leave some Easter eggs behind for Romney to deal with. He should be prosecuted and his deeds exposed if he attempts to create chaos and problems on the way out. A lot of people are predicting that he will be a saboteur on his way out.


10 posted on 10/19/2012 3:38:51 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: SampleMan

Sounds perfect to me


11 posted on 10/19/2012 3:39:34 AM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: F15Eagle

That is why ozero is saying he needs four more years to “finish the job”.
No one presses him on just what the job is.

Not hard to figure out.


12 posted on 10/19/2012 4:15:16 AM PDT by Texas resident (Let's elect an American this time.)
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To: jsanders2001

Like what Clinton did to George Bush.
Clinton left Bush 9/11.
Firewalls and all that.


13 posted on 10/19/2012 4:17:10 AM PDT by Texas resident (Let's elect an American this time.)
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To: Kaslin; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; DoughtyOne; Gilbo_3; Impy; stephenjohnbanker; NFHale; ...
RE :”According to the Washington Post and administration officials, President Obama is willing to take the country right off the fiscal cliff for short term political gain - with or without reelection.
Freed from the political and economic constraints that have tied his hands in the past, Obama is ready to play hardball with Republicans, who have so far successfully resisted a deal to tame the debt that includes higher taxes, Obama’s allies say.
In the days after the November election, the tables will be turned: Taxes are scheduled to rise dramatically in January for people at all income levels, and Republicans will be unable to stop those automatic increases alone.
If he wins reelection, Obama may finally be able to dictate the terms of a bipartisan debt-reduction deal. And if he loses to Republican Mitt Romney, Obama could make sure that tax rates rise before he hands over the keys to the White House on Inauguration Day in late January.”

Republicans got themselves into this position, playing this game of chicken.

1) Knowing the tax cuts expire at the end of Os first term they (Republican House and McConnel) last year insisted on a debt limit increase deal that included certain delayed budget cuts that they are now claiming are catastrophic, to take place at the same time as the tax increases. ( I am skeptical that these cuts are anywhere near that bad.) They apparently thought this would be a great election issue.

2) The prior R minority leadership in congress (2009 to 2010 under Pelosi/Reid congress) , same people as now, saw it as a great victory to get Obama to extend all those tax cuts in late 2010, the middle of Obama’s term. So thanks to that he has used that as a major talking point against Romney and others which wouldnt have sounded so good now if he ‘won’ and got taxes went up. I always said that that was the last thing O wanted at that point, taxes to go up before his (re-)election.
It would be truly ironic if this ends in Obama being able to keep taxes going up after his re-election when he doesnt have to worry about another.

Finally:

a) If O wins then he will not give in on taxes this time, he has the upper hand.

b) Even if MR wins he still has to get an extension through the Senate and he wont have 60, in fact Reid may still be Senate leader. And apparently he wants to reverse the automatic budget cuts that Rs like Ryan called a major historic victory just last year at the same time.

14 posted on 10/19/2012 6:02:08 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is still a liberal. Just watch him. (Obama-ney Care ))
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To: upchuck

You’re welcome


15 posted on 10/19/2012 6:11:25 AM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: sickoflibs; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; DoughtyOne; Gilbo_3; Impy; stephenjohnbanker; NFHale

This is all verbatim correct, and it makes me sick to my stomach!!!! I have posted many times that even if Romney wins, Obama will do untold damage to America before he leaves. In this particular case, all he has to do is put his feet up on his desk, and smile.


16 posted on 10/19/2012 9:22:12 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; DoughtyOne; Gilbo_3; Impy; NFHale
RE :”This is all verbatim correct, and it makes me sick to my stomach!!!! I have posted many times that even if Romney wins, Obama will do untold damage to America before he leaves. In this particular case, all he has to do is put his feet up on his desk, and smile.”

While there are many here warning that a MR POTUS will not be all roses I was pretty much alone here warning that a Boehner House would bring a bunch of problems. Look at the baggage that Ryan acquired last year (debt limit deal) that is being thrown at him.

If Pelosi was still speaker any one of the R candidates could beat O, even Cain with his wimmin problems.

17 posted on 10/19/2012 9:36:50 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is still a liberal. Just watch him. (Obama-ney Care ))
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To: sickoflibs

” I was pretty much alone here warning that a Boehner House would bring a bunch of problems.”

I was with you every time.

” Look at the baggage that Ryan acquired last year (debt limit deal) that is being thrown at him.”

believe me, I looked.

” If Pelosi was still speaker any one of the R candidates could beat O, even Cain with his wimmin problems. “

Correct.


18 posted on 10/19/2012 9:58:07 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: jsanders2001

Perhaps, if by “on his way out” you mean, “since he was elected”


19 posted on 10/20/2012 5:34:36 AM PDT by bt_dooftlook (Democrats - the party of Amnesty, Abortion, and Adolescence)
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To: Kaslin

Blah blah blah..... Obama is already a lame duck.

Harry Reid has the power. He will be the driver of the bus going over the cliff. At present, he is probably dithering and won’t know what to do for several weeks.


20 posted on 10/20/2012 5:39:21 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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To: Kaslin

Blah blah blah..... Obama is already a lame duck.

Harry Reid has the power. He will be the driver of the bus going over the cliff. At present, he is probably dithering and won’t know what to do for several weeks.

If he loses the Senate, it can all be undone right a way.


21 posted on 10/20/2012 5:40:10 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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