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Billionaire Frank Giustra: Gold Will Be The Final Bubble ^ | 10-18-2012 | Frik Els

Posted on 10/19/2012 4:01:17 AM PDT by blam

Billionaire Frank Giustra: Gold Will Be The Final Bubble

Frik Els
October 18, 2012

Canaccord's Global Resource Conference happening in Miami at the moment featured a lengthy interview with billionaire investor Frank Giustra where he said "he doesn't want to sound apocalyptic," but probably ended up scaring the bejezus out of the audience anyway.

In 2002 Giustra wrote a book called A Tarnished Dollar Will Put the Shine on Gold.

That was back when gold was trading below $300 and quantitative easing wasn't even a glint in Ben Bernanke's eye.

A decade later he's sticking to his guns:

"I don't know when and I don't know how high. But gold is going a lot higher.

"Gold is the bubble of all bubbles. It's the mother of all bubbles. It's the bubble people will go to when they've exhausted all other bubbles.

"Here's why: It is moveable. It is easily transferable across borders in times of crisis. It's a currency. It's liquid. It's easily tradeable.

"I'm a fan of all hard assets, but particularly gold. It's the largest part of my portfolio and it will continue to be until this cycle is over."

The reason for Giustra's confidence about the gold price – and gloom about the financial system – is all about US monetary policy.

While it started with the so-called Greenspan-put in the Nineties, Giustra said the Fed "crossed the Rubicon" when it first embarked on quantitative easing (in December 2008, when gold was worth $830 an ounce).

The Fed has already racked up close to $3 trillion and purchases of $40 billion a month for "at least the next 27 months" by the Fed's own calculations under open-ended QE3 will add another $1 trillion.

"Everyone is frozen with fear. Everyone is in cash," says Giustra.

"The only reason you haven't seen inflation – hyperinflation – yet" with all the cheap money flooding markets is because the velocity of money – the speed at which money changes hands in the economy – is at its lowest since 1959, when it was first measured:

"If it [velocity of money] stays that way, you won't get inflation. But the first whiff of inflation and things can pick up quickly."

Giustra says like in chess the Fed is in an "inescapable trap". It's been cornered by the queen, a rook and a bishop – a triple threat:

It cannot reign in the excess liquidity by raising interest rates because it will destroy what is only a fragile recovery.

With debt through budget deficits on its way to $20–$25 trillion, the US government will be the first in trouble if the Fed tries to normalize rates.

Thirdly, the Fed's own balance sheet is such that it could become insolvent – its debt:equity ratio is 51:1 with the bulk of its holdings in longer maturities which they won't find buyers for.

"It's the beginning of the end for the US dollar. I don't want to sound apocalyptic, but how else does this end? You have to be on the right side of this trade."

Giustra knows what he is talking about.

He made his money in a rare combination of two very different industries – gold mining and movie making. And he has a rare knack for timing the market.

Giustra started out at as mining industry dealmaker in the 1980s and got out when the market turned sour in the early nineties.

He then founded Lionsgate, today the biggest independent Hollywood studio.

By 2001 he was back in mining setting up among others Wheaton River which would morph into what is today the world's number two gold (Goldcorp) and silver (Silver Wheaton) companies with a combined market value of $48 billion.

TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: dollar; feds; gold; investing

1 posted on 10/19/2012 4:01:20 AM PDT by blam
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To: blam

I have found this website to be a very useful source of information on the economy, gold, and silver.

2 posted on 10/19/2012 4:27:33 AM PDT by Silver Sabre
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3 posted on 10/19/2012 4:52:51 AM PDT by phockthis ( ...)
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To: blam

No... Food will be!

4 posted on 10/19/2012 5:04:34 AM PDT by tired&retired
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To: blam

I remember gold selling for $35-36 in the early-60s; I wish I’d had the money to buy a pallet load back then. 20-20 hindsight. Heh.

5 posted on 10/19/2012 5:09:47 AM PDT by carriage_hill (The 0bummer Penguin: I played this country like a harp from hell.)
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To: tired&retired

Ammo and toilet paper.

6 posted on 10/19/2012 5:10:08 AM PDT by CPOSharky (zero slogan: Expect less, pay more. (apologies to Target))
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To: tired&retired
Yes, tilled and fertile soil will be valuable as well.

Not sure if it makes sense but in addition to all kinds of self-canned food, I make wine and have stored away whiskey.

I have a good bit of gold and silver and weapons to defend it but liquor seemed a very liquid (no pun intended) commodity that will be in great demand when the shelves are empty.

7 posted on 10/19/2012 5:13:55 AM PDT by Aevery_Freeman (All Y'all White Peoples is racist!)
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To: blam

Travis McGee had an easy fix for all of this. You can turn your Greenbacks in for Bluebucks where ten Greenbacks equal one Bluebuck. Your mortgage debt will convert 1:1 though.

8 posted on 10/19/2012 5:58:55 AM PDT by Sawdring
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To: blam

imho the fed will be able to solve the problem of increasing velocity of money as the economy improves—not by raising interest rates but rather by flooding the housing market with 2 trillion dollars worth of mortgages they have in their portfolio. that will depress any housing inflation.

9 posted on 10/19/2012 6:28:26 AM PDT by ckilmer
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To: carriage_hill
I wish I’d had the money to buy a pallet load back then...

It was illegal to own bullion in the 60's. IIRC, bullion became legal to own in the 70's.

10 posted on 10/19/2012 8:09:34 AM PDT by Mr. Quarterpanel (I am not an actor, but I play one on TV)
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To: CPOSharky

Precious Metals = Lead & Brass

11 posted on 10/19/2012 10:34:47 AM PDT by tired&retired
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To: blam

The reason we haven’t seen hyperinflation is that they are able to DEFER printing greenbacks, aka Federal Reserve notes.

Instead of printing FRN’s, they print T-bills, bonds, treasuries, whatever with denominations like $25,000,000,000.00 on it.

Eventually, all these hunks of paper out there will try to get converted to real, hard assets.

That isn’t the beginning of the end - that’s the end. That’s like musical chairs, but we’re down to the last chair!

12 posted on 10/19/2012 10:43:07 AM PDT by djf (Political Science: Conservatives = govern-ment. Liberals = givin-me-it.)
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