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Conservative pundit Dinesh D'Souza steps down from Manhattan evangelical Christian college after
NY Daily News ^ | october 19, 2012 | bill hutchinson

Posted on 10/19/2012 5:24:56 AM PDT by lowbridge

Conservative pundit Dinesh D’Souza was forced to quit as president of an evangelical Christian college in Manhattan after it came to light that he became engaged to a young woman while he was still married.

D’Souza, 51, had brought his 29-year-old fiancée to a religious conference, and they shared a hotel room.

His resignation from The King’s College was announced Thursday by Andy Mills, chairman of the institution’s board of trustees.

A former Ronald Reagan aide, D’Souza is a best-selling conservative author and director of the controversial documentary “2016: Obama’s America” — which cast a critical eye at the President’s upbringing and early influences. The film has grossed more than $33.4 million in the United States, making it the fourth-most successful documentary of all time.

(Excerpt) Read more at nydailynews.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: christians; dinesh; dsouza
Dinesh has denied the part about him and his fiancee sharing the same hotel room, for what its worth.

Full title: Conservative pundit Dinesh D'Souza steps down from Manhattan evangelical Christian college after unholy tryst

1 posted on 10/19/2012 5:25:01 AM PDT by lowbridge
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To: lowbridge
OOops.
“I had no idea that it is considered wrong in Christian circles to be engaged prior to being divorced, even though in a state of separation and in divorce proceedings,” D’Souza wrote.

2 posted on 10/19/2012 5:41:14 AM PDT by Lee N. Field (Come, behold the works of the LORD, how he has brought desolations on the earth.)
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To: Lee N. Field

You must have not followed your lawyer’s advice, bro.


3 posted on 10/19/2012 5:42:32 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: lowbridge

I never trusted him. He has an odd manner about him.


4 posted on 10/19/2012 5:44:05 AM PDT by PghBaldy (Obama in a binder!!!)
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To: PghBaldy

Can’t say that I blame him. He’s not that attractive but she certainly is!


5 posted on 10/19/2012 5:47:57 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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To: lowbridge

Who cares??? What D’Sousa does in his personal life is his business. D’Sousa is not the problem, Communist Barack Hussein Obama is....and D’Sousa has done a maginificent service to his country exposing the farce and America Hater/Destroyer that Obama is!!! End of story!!!


6 posted on 10/19/2012 5:51:10 AM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX ( My only objective is defeat and destroy Obama & his Democrat Party, politically!!!)
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To: JLAGRAYFOX

It matters if you are president of an evangelical college. He has to “practice what they preach.”


7 posted on 10/19/2012 6:02:50 AM PDT by jch10 (America needs some R and R!)
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To: lowbridge

Honest question for evangelicals: why do so many evangelical Christians tolerate divorce when Jesus spoke so clearly about it in the Gospel?

With so much literal interpretation of the Old Testament, it has always seemed odd to me that Protestants view the words of Jesus himself as “negotiable.”


8 posted on 10/19/2012 6:06:13 AM PDT by vonkayel
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To: vonkayel

I have read that divorce rates are about the same for Christians and non-Christians. In Malachi God says “I hate divorce”. Apparently lots of Christians just don’t care.


9 posted on 10/19/2012 6:14:17 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: lowbridge

I guess he was being a big fat liar in this article then:
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/10/17/2016-obama-america-film-maker-am-not-having-affair/


10 posted on 10/19/2012 6:20:56 AM PDT by kimchi lover (Obyebye 2012)
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To: vonkayel

Careful, FRiend: this Protestant Christian and many others takes seriously his vows before God to be faithful to one woman “till death do us part”.


11 posted on 10/19/2012 6:24:27 AM PDT by jagusafr
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To: lowbridge

Two things I see - first, he’d been separated from his ex for two years. This is an affair? Second, Obama and the Thugs are out to get him, and will do whatever they can to bring him down. 2016 was NOT appreciated at the WH. This smells like skunk stink to me.


12 posted on 10/19/2012 6:26:15 AM PDT by bboop (does not suffer fools gladly)
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To: ilovesarah2012

Divorce is probably the single most damaging social phenomenon of our time, and yet many Christians have essentially vacated the field of battle.

I wish that evangelicals would work with Catholics to restore the actual words of Jesus to their proper place of primacy in mainstream Christian theology and social thought.


13 posted on 10/19/2012 6:27:11 AM PDT by vonkayel
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To: jagusafr

Good for you! I know many, many Protestants who agree with you.

My issue is with the church leadership. Why don’t most Protestant churches preach the actual words of Jesus on this issue, when they take a literal view of so much of the rest of the Bible.


14 posted on 10/19/2012 6:32:50 AM PDT by vonkayel
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To: lowbridge

Does not move Obama a whit in the polls.

But it does serve notice to all in the future who might dare to be so cheeky as to make such a movie.

Saul would be so proud.


15 posted on 10/19/2012 6:45:55 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: lowbridge

So he’s not perfect either. But he stepped down and paid the price for his actions. (Nothing he did was illegal)

This is unlike Democraps who continue to proclaim their innocense even though there is no history of cherokee blood in their family OR a valid (not forged) birth certificate.

The fact that he made mistakes in his life DOES NOT change one single fact in his documentary about Obama.


16 posted on 10/19/2012 6:55:04 AM PDT by Mr. K ("The only thing the World would hate more than the USA in charge is the USA NOT in charge")
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To: vonkayel

I agree. I am totally against homosexual “marriage”, but sometimes I wish Christians would work on building up strong heterosexual marriage. A lot of churches now have Divorce Care. They need to work on preventing divorce. It has become too acceptable. I remember growing up when divorce was scandalous. You assumed if a couple divorced, adultery was the reason. Now you can wake up and decide you don’t want to be married any more and get a divorce. No-fault divorce destroyed a lot of families. And children suffer the most.


17 posted on 10/19/2012 7:29:46 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: lowbridge

First, he was already SEPARATED from his wife for nearly two years before he even met his “fiancee”!

Second, “engaged” has no legal meaning. He was in a committed intimate relationship after his marriage had failed. Engagement is a cultural tradition. (And our culture has no suitable word for such an adult relationship without an engagement; “girlfriend” is juvenile, and “partner” is legalistically cold).

Third: The “got around to filing for divorce” only after he introduced her may have plenty of reasons. There are many reasons to delay filing, and they might actually be in the interest of the ex-wife. The wife may in fact have precipitated the divorce. And delaying may have greatly enriched her.

Fourth: I’m fascinated by this story, because I’m in a very similar situation, with the ages and dates almost identical. The only difference is that I met my new gal a week after the divorce was final (Thank you, God!). But because the divorce was a fast one (initiated by her, thankfully) It was uncomfortable when people saw me with my new girl when they hadn’t even heard I was divorced.

Fifth: While I’m waiting for the old Catholic marriage to be declared a nullity under the rules of the church, I have to wrestle with delaying an engagement until no longer married in the eyes of the church.

Sixth: Dinesh’s gal might be nearly as beautiful as mine, but there’s no way she’s as sweet and loving.


18 posted on 10/19/2012 8:17:07 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Hold My Beer and Watch This!)
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To: Mr. K

So he’s not perfect either.


No one is, but I’m not seeing any evidence that he has done anything wrong in ending what I trust was a bad marriage, and starting a good relationship.


19 posted on 10/19/2012 8:32:12 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Hold My Beer and Watch This!)
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To: Beelzebubba

I suspect the husband of Dinesh’s new squeeze may disagree with that analysis.


20 posted on 10/19/2012 9:29:53 AM PDT by Natufian (t)
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To: Natufian

I suspect the husband of Dinesh’s new squeeze may disagree with that analysis.


Where can I learn more about that?


21 posted on 10/19/2012 10:06:19 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Hold My Beer and Watch This!)
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To: Beelzebubba

I’d try the internet if I were you.


22 posted on 10/19/2012 10:22:54 AM PDT by Natufian (t)
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To: Natufian

I tried, and failed to find anything other that repeated rumors, not facts or allegations from any reputable source.

You are probably in defamation territory if this proves untrue.


23 posted on 10/19/2012 11:35:05 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Hold My Beer and Watch This!)
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To: Beelzebubba

Her Facebook timeline says that she got married on 30 December 2011.

https://www.facebook.com/denise.odiejosephii?fref=ts

If she’s claiming it herself, I doubt a defamation case will get very far.


24 posted on 10/19/2012 11:44:26 AM PDT by Natufian (t)
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To: vonkayel

Do you even know the views of Catholics? Do you know what the polling shows, and how they vote pro-abortion, and pro-homosexual, versus the incredibly, massively, social conservative vote of Evangelicals?


25 posted on 10/19/2012 1:32:07 PM PDT by ansel12 (Mitt Romney is a mixture of LBJ and Nixon, Obama is a mixture of LBJ and Jimmy Carter.)
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To: Natufian

Thanks for posting the info. Kinds unusual to be “married” but not identify the lucky guy.


26 posted on 10/19/2012 3:44:00 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Hold My Beer and Watch This!)
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To: vonkayel; ilovesarah2012; lowbridge; jagusafr; little jeremiah
8 posted on Fri Oct 19 2012 08:06:13 GMT-0500 (Central Daylight Time) by vonkayel: “Honest question for evangelicals: why do so many evangelical Christians tolerate divorce when Jesus spoke so clearly about it in the Gospel? With so much literal interpretation of the Old Testament, it has always seemed odd to me that Protestants view the words of Jesus himself as ‘negotiable.’”

You have a valid point.

The difference between evangelical Protestants and traditional Roman Catholics on this issue has been obscured by the massive collapse of marriage in America — and that is not just a Protestant problem, unfortunately. Easy annulments are not exactly unheard of in Roman Catholic circles, though to the credit of Catholics, at least they have maintained a stronger stance on the importance of marriage.

While there are differences about whether marriage is a sacrament and about remarriage after a biblically legitimate divorce (which basically means adultery) the gross tolerance of easy divorce and remarriage is an evangelical scandal.

One of the few good things I can say about evangelical churches on this issue is that the more seriously a denomination or local church takes doctrine, the more likely it is to have a strong emphasis on why divorce is wrong. It's the “loosey goosey” evangelical megachurches and their wannabee little brothers — the types of churches that are more likely to emphasize fun youth groups and loud music, and more likely to offer deep rich cocoa-flavored coffee than deep biblical exegesis from the pulpit — which are not demanding high standards in many areas of people's personal lives.

That problem of low standards for membership and discipleship is bigger than marriage, though it certainly is a big part of the bad fruit brought about by low standards and lack of church discipline.

27 posted on 10/23/2012 10:14:30 AM PDT by darrellmaurina
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To: darrellmaurina

I totally agree. Many churches today are more interested in pleasing the masses than God.


28 posted on 10/23/2012 2:30:38 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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