Was the attack on Benghazi an "October Surprise" gone bad?

JEFFHEAD.COM ^ | 19 October 2012 | Jeff Head

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

Watched the Britt Baer Special on Bengahzi tonight....very well done.

Learned about the compound...and the attack and more ...

Repeat on Foxnews at 1 AM EST.

He spend some time with Col Wood....and had a timeline for the time line after the event.

[Jeff Head]

See my post at 79

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2947212/posts?page=79#79

After the Special by Brett Baier on Fox tonight we know a lot more details about the attack.

[Jeff Head]

They may not have thought he was in the building...now that we have a much more detailed account form those who were there. See:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2947212/posts?page=79#79

They then burned the building and that fire and smoke is what killed the Ambassador.

[MHGinTN]

Thanks for the details, Jeff.

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

Based on what I saw in the Brett Baer special tonight ....I think we can discard "the attempted hostage gone bad"" theory.

The Seals were at the annex...the militants attacked the consultant first and came with diesel fuel and fired everything up without finding Stevens and Smith and an agent in the safe room.

some hours later they attacked the CIA annex and that is where the two Seals were killed.

The Special report is reasonably detailed in the attacks progressing thru the compound.

[Jeff Head]

Agreed. See my post 79.

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

Based on the Foxnews special ,....the two Seals were at the CIA Annex....which was attacked some hours after the consultant was lit up and Stevens and Smith died from smoke inhalation in the safe room.

The pictures of Stevens were not shown in the report.

[Marine_Uncle]

Like I said earlier on. Zee plot thickens. For those Freepers that may not be able to watch the Fox News Special Edition, it can be found here.

[MHGinTN]

Well, if the ambassador died a couple of hours before the vermin realized he was in the safe room, then it is likely what we are seeing in the pictues is rigor mortis. I tend to agree the left arm crooked is an indication of rigor. Of course the autopsy will never be available to anyone outside of foggy bottom, so the insults to his body will not be made public thus protecting the false narrative that most Libyans in Benghazi are peaceful mooselimbs don'tchaknow, not necromancing degenerates.

I feel We The People are going to remove this lying bastard boy playing ay President. What saddens me immensely is that the pubbies lack the patriotism to prosecute many of the criminal enterprise who have been running America into the shitter for four years.

[MHGinTN]

Well, if the ambassador died a couple of hours before the vermin realized he was in the safe room, then it is likely what we are seeing in the pictures is rigor mortis. I tend to agree the left arm crooked is an indication of rigor. Of course the autopsy will never be available to anyone outside of foggy bottom, so the insults to his body will not be made public thus protecting the false narrative that most Libyans in Benghazi are peaceful mooselimbs don'tchaknow, not necromancing degenerates.

I feel We The People are going to remove this lying bastard boy playing ay President. What saddens me immensely is that the pubbies lack the patriotism to prosecute many of the criminal enterprise who have been running America into the shitter for four years.

[cookcounty]

"Do not forget, Fast and Furious was an attempt at gun control likely by executive order, and it went horribly wrong."

I was inclined to think it's just too crazy until I thought of F&F..... Still, there needs to be some strong supporting evidence.

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

My comments are based on what I saw from the Foxnews special tonight.

It would be interesting to know what materials and sources they used in putting together the report.

For example the video tape you mention.

Based on what we heard from Col hunt....There are likely multiple copies of the video tapes from the various command centers.

If they are editing a tape and passing it off as unedited....I imagine that will be exposed at some time.

[Fred Nerks]

...What saddens me immensely is that the pubbies lack the patriotism to prosecute many of the criminal enterprise who have been running America into the shitter for four years.

As an Australian, that's something that really stands out to me and is impossible to understand. From here, it looks like you don't have, maybe never did have, an effective Opposition. Compared to your system, our Prime Minister walks on egg-shells. Every move, every word is open to scrutiny, and misteps are on the Nightly News in an instant. I expect that's a benefit of being a small country.

[MHGinTN]

Well, the media was seen by our founders as a fourth branch of the original governing body. In our day, the media would be all over any misstep by a republican president or his administration (witness the Scooter Libby media crucifixion) but these same vermin, no longer a fourth estate have become the fifth column tool of the DNC anti-American agenda. It is why I keep saying guillotines from orbit, it’s the only way to clean up the infestation.

[Marine_Uncle]

RE: "some hours later they attacked the CIA annex and that is where the two Seals were killed."
Assuming the report is accurate in the tracing of the armed vehicle leaving the consulate area and making it's way northwestward to the "Annex".
Just for the record. I traced the route shown in this video and stopped it at the arrival point. The "Annex", that I had brought up with TigerEye yesterday.
Claims continue to be made that the "Annex" was about a mile away.
For the record. As I switch carefully between the Fox Report video stopping the video at various parts along the way performed by the armed vehicle destined for the "Annex", then switching into the google "Live Earth" web site, zeroed in on this area....
The final destination being the "Annex" was found after I did a "crows fly" line path from point x to y as being approx: 0.43 miles.
But to be fair. A bit of a mile over by the roads taken.

A mute point. I have been wondering just where the "Annex" was, and how many security/US (military personnel ?) might have been stationed.
I was dismayed at how few American or say British security and military, other, M6, CIA, where actually left in the land of the leader that loved his little green book.
And we are barely moving into what the whole deal's underlining mission(s) might have been, eg. recovery of the huge numbers of shoulder launched missiles and the now exposed facts coming out that the US team may have been there to expedite those weapons to some of the Syrian goons that are trying to unseat Basher Assad.
I'll leave it go at that. Tis late on the east coast. I really do have to get some sleep.
In leaving. Off course the tens of millions of those on the Federal freebies, and millions of ill informed Democrats in general, will never view and investigate what we do.

Hope and change is their earnest desire. Fools rush in where wise women and men never go.

[nutmeg]

God grant that we can get to the bottom of this and avenge the deaths and enact justice against all involved, wherever that may lead.

Amen, Jeff...

[airborne]

I have very little faith that the parasites currently infesting the White House and Congress will “get to the bottom of this”.

[Elle Bee]

bump for later

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[Fred Nerks]

Whoops! I almost forgot...your media-fifth-column. It’s not in the News if no one reports it, or it spins to the Left. At least we still get both sides of the story...most of the time. The moment the Prime Minister opens her mouth, the Leader of the Opposition gets to say his piece.

[Lady Heron]

OK see if this link works, I am not very good at doing this. Sorry.

http://hillbuzz.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/551723_10151063840055954_1056722107_n.jpg?cda6c1

When I saw the picture it was a lot larger. Maybe you can find it elsewhere, it took me a while to find it.

It is not about convincing you. I do not really care, I am just questioning. There has been some talk that he was alive when pulled out from the rumor mill in the Middle East and that day this administration was saying he was pulled out dead.

I just looked at the pictures and saw a few things that I thought indicated he was alive. When the pictures are blown up you can see the muscle well, and no blood in the picture then the one in the hospital with the arm raise there is some blood when that picture is blown up.

I can not tell you one way or the other...those were just my observations, which could be way off in left field.