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Romney has already won Debate 3, and Obama knows it
Hotair ^ | 10/19/2012 | BY HOWARD PORTNOY

Posted on 10/19/2012 9:47:12 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

In the game of poker it’s called a “tell.” A player raises his left eyebrow or licks his lower lip or makes some other unintentional but revealing gesture every time he draws a third jack or, alternatively, bluffs. A skilled opponent uses this to his advantage.

In Monday night’s third and final presidential debate, we will see whether Mitt Romney is skilled enough to read Barack Obama’s “tell” on Benghazi. He already used it, tipping his hand in Debate 2, but Romney either missed it or failed to call the president out on it.

See if you can pick it up. Here is the official White House transcript of the president speaking at a campaign rally in San Francisco on Oct. 9:

Now, four years ago, I made a few commitments to you. I told you I’d end the war in Iraq, and I did. I said I’d end the war in Afghanistan, and we are. I said we’d refocus on the people who actually attacked us on 9/11—and today, al Qaeda is on its heels and Osama bin Laden is no more.

Here he is two days later in Miami. Again, the source is the White House website:

Four years ago, I told you we’d end the war in Iraq—and we did. I said that we’d end the war in Afghanistan—and we are. I said that we’d refocus on the people who actually attacked us on 9/11—and today, al Qaeda is on its heels and Osama bin Laden is dead.

Now compare both excerpts from his standard prefabricated stump speech with his claim during the debate last Tuesday:

[W]hen it comes to our national security, I mean what I say. I said I’d end the war in Libya—in—in Iraq, and I did. I said that we’d go after al-Qaeda and bin Laden, we have.

Did you notice the difference? It’s subtle but substantive. The line about al Qaeda being “on its heels” has been modified to the more modest claim that “we’d go after al Qaeda.”

This was no slip of the tongue. Obama didn’t inadvertently omit a boast he meant to make. The day after the debate he said in Mount Vernon, Iowa (again, according to the official White House summary of his remarks):

Four years ago, I told you we’d end the war in Iraq—and I did. I said we’d end the war in Afghanistan—and we are. I said we’d focus on the terrorists who actually attacked us on 9/11—and we have, and bin Laden is dead.

His spiel has been carefully reconfigured to match the revised administration narrative about what happened in Benghazi on Sept. 11. Early on, the president and his spokesmen clung to a plausible-sounding explanation for the attack—that it was a mob response to an anti-Islamic video. Even after House testimony clarified that that was not what went down, he dispatched his U.N. ambassador, Susan Rice, to five (count ‘em, five) news shows the following Sunday to perpetuate the party line, which the president repeated himself on late night TV.

As it became increasingly obvious to the American public that this was a planned, coordinated terror attack, likely orchestrated by Osama bin Laden’s successor and specifically pre-determined to coincide with Sept. 11, Obama grudgingly accepted the truth—which he probably knew on Sept. 12, the day he made his Rose Garden speech.

If he tries to weasel out of his obvious politicization of the attack in Debate 3, as he did in Debate 2, Romney will be ready. And Obama knows it.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012debates; debate; foreignpolicy; obama; romney
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1 posted on 10/19/2012 9:47:13 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

As far as debates go, he [Romney] won the first two.


2 posted on 10/19/2012 9:49:01 AM PDT by sport
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To: SeekAndFind

All 0bama has to do is go out and lie,
and call everything Romney says a lie,

and the “moderator” and the media will cover for him.


3 posted on 10/19/2012 9:50:51 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: SeekAndFind
I agree. The Benghazi topic is unwinnable for Obama. Romney has to hammer him on that. And any other topic that comes up where Obama is whitewashing the truth -- unemployment? Who knows what the figures are?? Maybe the folks covering Benghazi are also calculating the unemployment rate! Oil permits on federal land?? Are the Benghazi people counting those ... because the figures that the president is talking about ... I just don't know ...

Obama can (easily) be made to look like a dishonest boob. Because he is one.

4 posted on 10/19/2012 9:53:29 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Global Warming is a religion, and I don't want to be taxed to pay for a faith that is not mine.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Given what’s come out in the last 24-hours about Libya, courtesy of McClatchy News (whodda thunk), Zero may not even show up for the third encounter with Romney.


5 posted on 10/19/2012 9:53:37 AM PDT by Arm_Bears (Re-distribute my work ethic, not my wealth.)
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To: MrB

The Coup De Grace next week, polls will show Romney solidly ahead in Ohio, Wisconsin, Iowa, NH and coming on in Pa, NJ, Michigan, Mn. Watch for Obama debate #1 to show up, ....addled, tired and listless. Obama is about to open the bunker doors and head down under the Reichstag. It’s over.


6 posted on 10/19/2012 9:54:46 AM PDT by pburgh01
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To: sport

Romney also “won” at the Al Smith dinner. I am amazed how well he delivered his one-liners. Not professional, but damned good for an amateur. Some have suggested that DENNIS MILLER HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH IT. If so, then Miller is also a damn good coach. Hope the campaign takes him along to juice up Romney’s stump speeches.


7 posted on 10/19/2012 9:59:05 AM PDT by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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To: SeekAndFind

That’s counterproductive thinking.
The debate isn’t over until it’s OVER.


8 posted on 10/19/2012 10:01:47 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: MrB

Polls show Obama surging into 2nd place-
Romney next to last!

9 posted on 10/19/2012 10:01:53 AM PDT by Baynative
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To: Baynative

Love it.


10 posted on 10/19/2012 10:03:30 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: MrB

Even though that Traitor spends all his time in these debates lying through his sh*t eating grin, he still is LOSING VOTES and Romney is STILL gaining them.

The 3rd debate, IMO, will be more of the same. And the fact that it’s focus is on Foreign Affairs, I pray Romney gets in more jabs and points regarding Obama’s foreign policy and the lackof and complete failure therein.


11 posted on 10/19/2012 10:06:03 AM PDT by Lucky9teen (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading.~Thomas Jeffer)
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To: SeekAndFind

” In Monday night’s third and final presidential debate, we will see whether Mitt Romney is skilled enough to read Barack Obama’s “tell” on Benghazi. He already used it, tipping his hand in Debate 2, but Romney either missed it or failed to call the president out on it.”

What is this guy smoking?

The “fix” was in.


12 posted on 10/19/2012 10:07:30 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: SeekAndFind

This election isn’t about foreign policy. Since Romney isn’t going to say, “I’m going to nuke Iran come January!” nobody will be swayed enough to not vote for him.


13 posted on 10/19/2012 10:10:43 AM PDT by Shadow44
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To: SeekAndFind

Debate #4 took place last night at the Al Smith dinner. Obama cannot recover from that evisceration. This will carry on to Boca Raton Monday night

The shorts are — Prepare to meet your doom Mr 0 and get Wookie to start packing for the sunny golf courses of Oahu. B___h you will have all the time in the world to shoot hoops with Reggie. My prediction is 5 years from now we will see a snap of Bammy at a Hawaii ice cream shop weighing 250 lbs


14 posted on 10/19/2012 10:11:48 AM PDT by dennisw (Government be yo mamma - Re-elect Barack Obama)
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To: SeekAndFind
Obama will be prepared for Romney's comments on Libya. Besides, Obama’s failures there are being pretty widely discussed in the media. Romney might make more points attacking other areas of foreign policy failure, and there are numerous examples.
15 posted on 10/19/2012 10:12:33 AM PDT by LOC1 (Let's pick the best, not settle for a compromise.)
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To: ClearCase_guy; SeekAndFind

Since it now has become 100% irrefutable that Benghazi was, in fact, a pre-planned terrorist attack and not a spontaneous eruption caused by a video critical of Mohammed, how can Obama minimize the damage done by his several weeks of lying?

I saw some attempts at spinning this, notably by Bob Beckel on The Five, and I would bet big bucks that this is the road Obama will take at the final debate:

“Yes, it was clearly a pre-planned terrorist attack. But one of the root causes of that attack was that horrible video, which inflamed Muslims so much that the attack became the natural consequence. In other words, when I said the video caused the attack, I meant that the video was the underlying cause of a pre-planned attack.”

Or some such drivel. Apparently, instead of studying the Constitution, Obama took Parsing 101.


16 posted on 10/19/2012 10:12:39 AM PDT by TruthShallSetYouFree (Benghazi murders due to spontaneous riot over a video. Or terrorism. Depends on the day.)
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To: SeekAndFind

How about Obama referring to when he WAS president?


17 posted on 10/19/2012 10:15:14 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: SeekAndFind

zero is going to want to talk about what we do now because our options become narrowed as zero’s policies have failed. mitt should discuss how we end up in the mess we are because of those failed policies


18 posted on 10/19/2012 10:16:39 AM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: Shadow44
I agree that foreign policy doesn't carry so much weight this time, because people are really focused on jobs. That's fine. Romney has the economic stuff sewed up pretty tight.

I don't think Romney will get points for having a better foreign policy than Obama (although, of course, he does). But I think Romney should focus on Obama's character -- he can humiliate and belittle Obama as a leader by focusing on Obama's foreign policy screw-ups. The point isn't (so much) the screw-ups, the point is that Obama is in way over his head.

People want a competent leader -- in hopes that one could revive our economy. Romney needs to use every opportunity to show that Obama is not a competent leader.

19 posted on 10/19/2012 10:16:45 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Global Warming is a religion, and I don't want to be taxed to pay for a faith that is not mine.)
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To: sport

Obama and the media wanted the Libya story to go away (after a couple of days beating up on Romney for criticizing the apology to the mob in Cairo). That it is being talked about again is not what Obama wanted.


20 posted on 10/19/2012 10:17:31 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: SeekAndFind

My guess is that hussein will be a no show for the third debate. He will be much too busy in his superman cape , personally directing the raids on the bad guys that killed our Americans in Benghazi. Somehow, I think the American people will see right through that one, too.


21 posted on 10/19/2012 10:18:42 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: stephenjohnbanker
The “fix” was in.

How in the Hell did she just happen to have the transcript from the Rose Garden speech? Why in the world would a debate moderator have that transcript at their fingertips during the debate?

The very fun and ironic thing is that this has forced the discussion of the Benghazi debacle to be front and center for many more days. It's even more fun to see how the lie is being exposed more every day, this moderator's attempt to bolster Bambi has only heightened the problem for him.

*Fail*

22 posted on 10/19/2012 10:21:22 AM PDT by Lakeshark (I don't care for Mitt; the alternative is unthinkable)
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To: SeekAndFind

0bama is arming Al Qaeda in Syria, by some accounts.


23 posted on 10/19/2012 10:21:27 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie ( “Obama, Obama, there are still a billion Osamas” - Cairo Protesters, 9/11/2012)
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To: Lakeshark

” How in the Hell did she just happen to have the transcript from the Rose Garden speech? Why in the world would a debate moderator have that transcript at their fingertips during the debate?”

Pre arranged by O and Crowley well before the debate.


24 posted on 10/19/2012 10:25:36 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker
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To: MrB

“All 0bama has to do is go out and lie,
and call everything Romney says a lie,

and the “moderator” and the media will cover for him.”

But. . . the American likely voter doesn’t seem to be buying it this time.


25 posted on 10/19/2012 10:27:11 AM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: stephenjohnbanker
My questions were rhetorical.

There is no way she could have brought that transcript with her unless it was done by collaborating with Bambi.

I'm not much for tin foil hat thinking, but there is no other explanation for what happened.

26 posted on 10/19/2012 10:28:41 AM PDT by Lakeshark (I don't care for Mitt; the alternative is unthinkable)
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To: All

Crowley

” I didn’t (insert lie)


27 posted on 10/19/2012 10:30:15 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ((God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.))
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To: ClearCase_guy

“Romney should focus on Obama’s character”

Absolutely! Maybe he should ask Bozo what he meant about telling the Russians he would have more “Flexability” after the election.


28 posted on 10/19/2012 10:30:24 AM PDT by SWEETSUNNYSOUTH (Liberalism is a mental disease.)
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To: Lakeshark

” There is no way she could have brought that transcript with her unless it was done by collaborating with Bambi.”

Correct. They collabarated on everything beforehand. Obama had all of the questions, and Crowley and he rehearsed it all. Crowley is an outspoken feminist/leftist, so I’m sure she saw nothing wrong with any of it.


29 posted on 10/19/2012 10:33:39 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ((God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.))
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To: RobbyS

“Romney also ‘won’ at the Al Smith Dinner.”

I actually consider the Dinner to be Debate #3, in a way — and Mitt definitely won it. He looked good in every way, including “presidential”.


30 posted on 10/19/2012 10:34:54 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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To: SeekAndFind

Obama’s tell? If he moves his lips, he’s lying or condescending or both.


31 posted on 10/19/2012 10:38:57 AM PDT by omega4412
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To: stephenjohnbanker
She supposedly owns a place near here as a summer haven.

I would love to run in to her on a beach somewhere now that I know what she looks like.

The Fourth of July fireworks would be tame if that were to happen...........if she gets unlucky enough to run in to me she might have to go hide in her basement for a few years.

32 posted on 10/19/2012 10:42:32 AM PDT by Lakeshark (I don't care for Mitt; the alternative is unthinkable)
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To: SeekAndFind

0bama’s stategy for the last debate is to act like his

microphone isn’t working...

...for an hour and a half.


33 posted on 10/19/2012 10:46:49 AM PDT by Leep (Forward! to serfdom)
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To: SJSAMPLE

Obama spent his round on Debate 2. He was desparate to avoid going 0 for 2. Romney is on to Obama’s game now and will be on him like white on rice on Monday.


34 posted on 10/19/2012 10:51:58 AM PDT by sportutegrl
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To: SeekAndFind

Romney should ask the president this one very painful question, “Why did you, Mr. President, on day 2 of the UN Meeting in NYC announce to the world in your comments that the person who produced the YouTube Video was arrested/detained?”, and (part 2), “Mr. President why would an American innocent of no crime in this Country, exercising his right to free speech, be detained and then you personnaly publicize it to the world?” It seems to me and everyone else that along with your Twitter/Social Media proclaimations throughout the world blaming this this State Department Publica Affairs the attacks on the Video....


35 posted on 10/19/2012 10:53:40 AM PDT by Jumper
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To: sport

I saw the omission at the time and replayed it to make sure I saw what I saw. It seemed to me the AQ line was actually on the teleprompter but he took a bit of a stutter-step and skipped it. It’s gotta be really hard to go against his own TOTUS?


36 posted on 10/19/2012 10:53:52 AM PDT by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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To: SeekAndFind
I am kinda surprised that Obama has run such an anemic, misguided campaign, but in retrospect I guess it isn't really a big surprise.

Romney is running a much better campaign than I thought he could, or would.

37 posted on 10/19/2012 11:00:57 AM PDT by GSWarrior
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To: Lakeshark

I don’t think this story is going away, and Crowley has lost all credibility as a journalist. She can’t hide at the CNN building 24/7.


38 posted on 10/19/2012 11:04:24 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ((God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.))
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To: stephenjohnbanker

I’d really love to see Romney nail Zero again on his energy policy because it does involve foreign Policy...

Like Zero having to answer why his EPA has cut permits by 40+ percent on Oil Wells on Federal Lands and offshore but Sent Billions of American Tax Dollars to Countries like Brazil so they could drill and sell gas to their citizens for 40 cents a gallon.


39 posted on 10/19/2012 11:22:47 AM PDT by VRWCarea51
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To: VRWCarea51

I agree. Let us see if Romney is allowed to speak at all. After Crowley, we can’t be sure : )


40 posted on 10/19/2012 11:25:02 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ((God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.))
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To: Jumper

Or Better yet, Mr. President can you say for a fact that the weapons used to Assassinate our Ambassador, 2 former Seal Team members and a IT professional in Libya was not provided to terrorists in Syria with any American involvement?

He’d soil himself!

Connect the dots People. These animals turned on us after we supplied weapons and funding the “freedom fighters” in Syria, sources that came thru Quatar and Saudia Arabia.


41 posted on 10/19/2012 11:31:56 AM PDT by VRWCarea51
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To: sportutegrl

I hope so, but that debate has yet to be had.
Plenty of things could go wrong.
And, by “wrong”, I mean;

-Liberal moderator intervention on behalf of the Democrat candidate.
-Fixed questions.
-Planted audience and questioners.

You know, the usual.


42 posted on 10/19/2012 12:00:55 PM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: SJSAMPLE
"The debate isn’t over until it’s OVER."

Yeah, and the fat "lady" sings!


43 posted on 10/19/2012 12:04:46 PM PDT by Slump Tester (What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh -Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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To: SeekAndFind

Romney is giving Lil Barry enough rope to hang himself. The Won is digging his own political grave.


44 posted on 10/19/2012 12:04:47 PM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: SeekAndFind

Howard is forgetting that Obama owns the third debate moderator as he has in the first 2 debates. Accordingly, the moderator of the third debate may unilaterally rule that Bengahzi has already been dicussed in previous debates and so is out of scope for this debate.


45 posted on 10/19/2012 12:06:42 PM PDT by Rockitz (This is NOT rocket science - Follow the money and you'll find the truth.)
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To: MrB

Obama also needs to be hammered on the comment he made to the Russians about having more freedom the second term. Call him on it and make him explain without a teleprompter.


46 posted on 10/19/2012 12:11:01 PM PDT by voicereason (The RNC is the "One-night stand" you wish you could forget.)
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To: voicereason

That wookie looka like a man.


47 posted on 10/19/2012 12:28:39 PM PDT by bicyclerepair ( REPLACE D-W-S ! http://www.karenforcongress.com)
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To: dennisw

“My prediction is 5 years from now we will see a snap of Bammy at a Hawaii ice cream shop weighing 250 lbs”

Maybe he’ll hire Monica Lewinsky to help out so that she can stop feeling sorry for herself and her inability to find employment. If so, the snap would show the pair of them weighing in collectively at 500 lbs....


48 posted on 10/19/2012 2:32:54 PM PDT by DrC
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To: ClearCase_guy

All that is needed in that respect is to continue to hammer at how Obama considers “lead from behind” to be a noble course of action.

The world NEEDS leadership from America, even though they fuss and fume about that at times - they realize it. When America FAILS TO LEAD, as we have during the last 4 years, it invites some other entities to fill the leadership void.

Americans can simply listen to Romney making such a statement, quickly consider what has occurred over the last couple years, and most of us will nod our heads in agreement.


49 posted on 10/19/2012 7:35:21 PM PDT by AFPhys ((Praying for our troops, our citizens, that the Bible and Freedom become basis of the US law again))
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To: MrB
All 0bama has to do is go out and lie, and call everything Romney says a lie,

and the “moderator” and the media will cover for him.

And just as with this latest debate, it won't matter.

50 posted on 10/19/2012 7:40:47 PM PDT by wolf24
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