Skip to comments.Romney has already won Debate 3, and Obama knows it
Posted on 10/19/2012 9:47:12 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
In the game of poker its called a tell. A player raises his left eyebrow or licks his lower lip or makes some other unintentional but revealing gesture every time he draws a third jack or, alternatively, bluffs. A skilled opponent uses this to his advantage.
In Monday nights third and final presidential debate, we will see whether Mitt Romney is skilled enough to read Barack Obamas tell on Benghazi. He already used it, tipping his hand in Debate 2, but Romney either missed it or failed to call the president out on it.
See if you can pick it up. Here is the official White House transcript of the president speaking at a campaign rally in San Francisco on Oct. 9:
Now, four years ago, I made a few commitments to you. I told you Id end the war in Iraq, and I did. I said Id end the war in Afghanistan, and we are. I said wed refocus on the people who actually attacked us on 9/11and today, al Qaeda is on its heels and Osama bin Laden is no more.
Here he is two days later in Miami. Again, the source is the White House website:
Four years ago, I told you we’d end the war in Iraqand we did. I said that we’d end the war in Afghanistanand we are. I said that we’d refocus on the people who actually attacked us on 9/11and today, al Qaeda is on its heels and Osama bin Laden is dead.
Now compare both excerpts from his standard prefabricated stump speech with his claim during the debate last Tuesday:
[W]hen it comes to our national security, I mean what I say. I said Id end the war in Libyainin Iraq, and I did. I said that wed go after al-Qaeda and bin Laden, we have.
Did you notice the difference? Its subtle but substantive. The line about al Qaeda being on its heels has been modified to the more modest claim that wed go after al Qaeda.
This was no slip of the tongue. Obama didnt inadvertently omit a boast he meant to make. The day after the debate he said in Mount Vernon, Iowa (again, according to the official White House summary of his remarks):
Four years ago, I told you wed end the war in Iraqand I did. I said wed end the war in Afghanistanand we are. I said wed focus on the terrorists who actually attacked us on 9/11and we have, and bin Laden is dead.
His spiel has been carefully reconfigured to match the revised administration narrative about what happened in Benghazi on Sept. 11. Early on, the president and his spokesmen clung to a plausible-sounding explanation for the attackthat it was a mob response to an anti-Islamic video. Even after House testimony clarified that that was not what went down, he dispatched his U.N. ambassador, Susan Rice, to five (count em, five) news shows the following Sunday to perpetuate the party line, which the president repeated himself on late night TV.
As it became increasingly obvious to the American public that this was a planned, coordinated terror attack, likely orchestrated by Osama bin Ladens successor and specifically pre-determined to coincide with Sept. 11, Obama grudgingly accepted the truthwhich he probably knew on Sept. 12, the day he made his Rose Garden speech.
If he tries to weasel out of his obvious politicization of the attack in Debate 3, as he did in Debate 2, Romney will be ready. And Obama knows it.
As far as debates go, he [Romney] won the first two.
All 0bama has to do is go out and lie,
and call everything Romney says a lie,
and the “moderator” and the media will cover for him.
Obama can (easily) be made to look like a dishonest boob. Because he is one.
Given what’s come out in the last 24-hours about Libya, courtesy of McClatchy News (whodda thunk), Zero may not even show up for the third encounter with Romney.
The Coup De Grace next week, polls will show Romney solidly ahead in Ohio, Wisconsin, Iowa, NH and coming on in Pa, NJ, Michigan, Mn. Watch for Obama debate #1 to show up, ....addled, tired and listless. Obama is about to open the bunker doors and head down under the Reichstag. It’s over.
Romney also won at the Al Smith dinner. I am amazed how well he delivered his one-liners. Not professional, but damned good for an amateur. Some have suggested that DENNIS MILLER HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH IT. If so, then Miller is also a damn good coach. Hope the campaign takes him along to juice up Romneys stump speeches.
That’s counterproductive thinking.
The debate isn’t over until it’s OVER.
Even though that Traitor spends all his time in these debates lying through his sh*t eating grin, he still is LOSING VOTES and Romney is STILL gaining them.
The 3rd debate, IMO, will be more of the same. And the fact that it’s focus is on Foreign Affairs, I pray Romney gets in more jabs and points regarding Obama’s foreign policy and the lackof and complete failure therein.
” In Monday nights third and final presidential debate, we will see whether Mitt Romney is skilled enough to read Barack Obamas tell on Benghazi. He already used it, tipping his hand in Debate 2, but Romney either missed it or failed to call the president out on it.”
What is this guy smoking?
The “fix” was in.
This election isn’t about foreign policy. Since Romney isn’t going to say, “I’m going to nuke Iran come January!” nobody will be swayed enough to not vote for him.
Debate #4 took place last night at the Al Smith dinner. Obama cannot recover from that evisceration. This will carry on to Boca Raton Monday night
The shorts are — Prepare to meet your doom Mr 0 and get Wookie to start packing for the sunny golf courses of Oahu. B___h you will have all the time in the world to shoot hoops with Reggie. My prediction is 5 years from now we will see a snap of Bammy at a Hawaii ice cream shop weighing 250 lbs
Since it now has become 100% irrefutable that Benghazi was, in fact, a pre-planned terrorist attack and not a spontaneous eruption caused by a video critical of Mohammed, how can Obama minimize the damage done by his several weeks of lying?
I saw some attempts at spinning this, notably by Bob Beckel on The Five, and I would bet big bucks that this is the road Obama will take at the final debate:
“Yes, it was clearly a pre-planned terrorist attack. But one of the root causes of that attack was that horrible video, which inflamed Muslims so much that the attack became the natural consequence. In other words, when I said the video caused the attack, I meant that the video was the underlying cause of a pre-planned attack.”
Or some such drivel. Apparently, instead of studying the Constitution, Obama took Parsing 101.
How about Obama referring to when he WAS president?
zero is going to want to talk about what we do now because our options become narrowed as zero’s policies have failed. mitt should discuss how we end up in the mess we are because of those failed policies
I don't think Romney will get points for having a better foreign policy than Obama (although, of course, he does). But I think Romney should focus on Obama's character -- he can humiliate and belittle Obama as a leader by focusing on Obama's foreign policy screw-ups. The point isn't (so much) the screw-ups, the point is that Obama is in way over his head.
People want a competent leader -- in hopes that one could revive our economy. Romney needs to use every opportunity to show that Obama is not a competent leader.
Obama and the media wanted the Libya story to go away (after a couple of days beating up on Romney for criticizing the apology to the mob in Cairo). That it is being talked about again is not what Obama wanted.
My guess is that hussein will be a no show for the third debate. He will be much too busy in his superman cape , personally directing the raids on the bad guys that killed our Americans in Benghazi. Somehow, I think the American people will see right through that one, too.
How in the Hell did she just happen to have the transcript from the Rose Garden speech? Why in the world would a debate moderator have that transcript at their fingertips during the debate?
The very fun and ironic thing is that this has forced the discussion of the Benghazi debacle to be front and center for many more days. It's even more fun to see how the lie is being exposed more every day, this moderator's attempt to bolster Bambi has only heightened the problem for him.
0bama is arming Al Qaeda in Syria, by some accounts.
” How in the Hell did she just happen to have the transcript from the Rose Garden speech? Why in the world would a debate moderator have that transcript at their fingertips during the debate?”
Pre arranged by O and Crowley well before the debate.
“All 0bama has to do is go out and lie,
and call everything Romney says a lie,
and the moderator and the media will cover for him.”
But. . . the American likely voter doesn’t seem to be buying it this time.
There is no way she could have brought that transcript with her unless it was done by collaborating with Bambi.
I'm not much for tin foil hat thinking, but there is no other explanation for what happened.
” I didn’t (insert lie)
“Romney should focus on Obama’s character”
Absolutely! Maybe he should ask Bozo what he meant about telling the Russians he would have more “Flexability” after the election.
” There is no way she could have brought that transcript with her unless it was done by collaborating with Bambi.”
Correct. They collabarated on everything beforehand. Obama had all of the questions, and Crowley and he rehearsed it all. Crowley is an outspoken feminist/leftist, so I’m sure she saw nothing wrong with any of it.
“Romney also ‘won’ at the Al Smith Dinner.”
I actually consider the Dinner to be Debate #3, in a way — and Mitt definitely won it. He looked good in every way, including “presidential”.
Obama’s tell? If he moves his lips, he’s lying or condescending or both.
I would love to run in to her on a beach somewhere now that I know what she looks like.
The Fourth of July fireworks would be tame if that were to happen...........if she gets unlucky enough to run in to me she might have to go hide in her basement for a few years.
0bama’s stategy for the last debate is to act like his
microphone isn’t working...
...for an hour and a half.
Obama spent his round on Debate 2. He was desparate to avoid going 0 for 2. Romney is on to Obama’s game now and will be on him like white on rice on Monday.
Romney should ask the president this one very painful question, “Why did you, Mr. President, on day 2 of the UN Meeting in NYC announce to the world in your comments that the person who produced the YouTube Video was arrested/detained?”, and (part 2), “Mr. President why would an American innocent of no crime in this Country, exercising his right to free speech, be detained and then you personnaly publicize it to the world?” It seems to me and everyone else that along with your Twitter/Social Media proclaimations throughout the world blaming this this State Department Publica Affairs the attacks on the Video....
I saw the omission at the time and replayed it to make sure I saw what I saw. It seemed to me the AQ line was actually on the teleprompter but he took a bit of a stutter-step and skipped it. It’s gotta be really hard to go against his own TOTUS?
Romney is running a much better campaign than I thought he could, or would.
I don’t think this story is going away, and Crowley has lost all credibility as a journalist. She can’t hide at the CNN building 24/7.
I’d really love to see Romney nail Zero again on his energy policy because it does involve foreign Policy...
Like Zero having to answer why his EPA has cut permits by 40+ percent on Oil Wells on Federal Lands and offshore but Sent Billions of American Tax Dollars to Countries like Brazil so they could drill and sell gas to their citizens for 40 cents a gallon.
I agree. Let us see if Romney is allowed to speak at all. After Crowley, we can’t be sure : )
Or Better yet, Mr. President can you say for a fact that the weapons used to Assassinate our Ambassador, 2 former Seal Team members and a IT professional in Libya was not provided to terrorists in Syria with any American involvement?
He’d soil himself!
Connect the dots People. These animals turned on us after we supplied weapons and funding the “freedom fighters” in Syria, sources that came thru Quatar and Saudia Arabia.
I hope so, but that debate has yet to be had.
Plenty of things could go wrong.
And, by “wrong”, I mean;
-Liberal moderator intervention on behalf of the Democrat candidate.
-Planted audience and questioners.
You know, the usual.
Yeah, and the fat "lady" sings!
Romney is giving Lil Barry enough rope to hang himself. The Won is digging his own political grave.
Howard is forgetting that Obama owns the third debate moderator as he has in the first 2 debates. Accordingly, the moderator of the third debate may unilaterally rule that Bengahzi has already been dicussed in previous debates and so is out of scope for this debate.
Obama also needs to be hammered on the comment he made to the Russians about having more freedom the second term. Call him on it and make him explain without a teleprompter.
That wookie looka like a man.
“My prediction is 5 years from now we will see a snap of Bammy at a Hawaii ice cream shop weighing 250 lbs”
Maybe he’ll hire Monica Lewinsky to help out so that she can stop feeling sorry for herself and her inability to find employment. If so, the snap would show the pair of them weighing in collectively at 500 lbs....
All that is needed in that respect is to continue to hammer at how Obama considers “lead from behind” to be a noble course of action.
The world NEEDS leadership from America, even though they fuss and fume about that at times - they realize it. When America FAILS TO LEAD, as we have during the last 4 years, it invites some other entities to fill the leadership void.
Americans can simply listen to Romney making such a statement, quickly consider what has occurred over the last couple years, and most of us will nod our heads in agreement.
and the moderator and the media will cover for him.
And just as with this latest debate, it won't matter.