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The tea party is helping Democrats
Washington Post ^ | October 19, 2012 | by Dana Milbank

Posted on 10/19/2012 11:30:14 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

There are those who say that the tea party is fading in influence, but nothing could be further from the truth. In fact, the movement is on the cusp of achieving what once seemed nearly impossible: keeping the Senate Democratic.

A year ago, famed political handicapper Charlie Cook gave Republicans a 60 percent to 70 percent likelihood of capturing control of the Senate; now, he tells me the likelihood of it remaining Democratic is 60 percent.

The switch in fortunes can be attributed to many causes — a slate of lackluster Republican candidates high among them — but one thing is beyond serious dispute: If not for a series of tea party upsets in Republican primaries, the Republicans would be taking over the Senate majority in January.

There is a deep irony here: The tea party faithful, who claimed they wanted to shake up Washington, have wound up perpetuating the old system. In fighting for ideological purity in primaries regardless of the consequences, they have set back their own cause of limited government and expanded freedom.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012issues; charliecook; election2012; influence; milbank; teaparty; wishfulthinking
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1 posted on 10/19/2012 11:30:19 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

PUKE!


2 posted on 10/19/2012 11:31:14 AM PDT by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

........and night is day and the sun circles the earth.


3 posted on 10/19/2012 11:31:41 AM PDT by PhiloBedo (You gotta roll with the punches and get with what's real.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The GOP-e are already trying to set up the Tea Party as the scapegoat.


4 posted on 10/19/2012 11:32:21 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Getting rid of RINOs is not a vice.


5 posted on 10/19/2012 11:33:36 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Dana Milktoast.


6 posted on 10/19/2012 11:33:56 AM PDT by JaguarXKE (If my Fluffy had a puppy, it would look like the puppy Obama ate!r)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Double-plus untrue!


7 posted on 10/19/2012 11:34:08 AM PDT by Jumpmaster (Defund the Left!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Bull....


8 posted on 10/19/2012 11:34:14 AM PDT by Gator113 (I would have voted for NEWT, now it's Ryan and the other guy.~Just livin' life, my way~)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Consider the source; the ComPost.


9 posted on 10/19/2012 11:35:12 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: US Navy Vet

Dana Millbank is a Leftist PUKE from way back. Here with this article we see his Tokyo Rose side.


10 posted on 10/19/2012 11:35:24 AM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: 2banana
"Getting rid of RINOs is not a vice."

The goal is not to put the GOPe in control as they have been instrumental in National fiscal mismanagement.

12 posted on 10/19/2012 11:35:47 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Down is up.


13 posted on 10/19/2012 11:37:28 AM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Welcome to Libville in the State of Denial.

Pray for America


14 posted on 10/19/2012 11:37:56 AM PDT by bray (Islam- A billion medieval savages can't be wrong!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
From the author of "The Teabagging of America".

Next.

15 posted on 10/19/2012 11:39:05 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Yuh. I remember how much the TEA Party helped the Democrats in 2010. Helped more than 600 of them out of office in elections at every level of government, from US Senate to local dogcatcher.


16 posted on 10/19/2012 11:39:27 AM PDT by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Milbank cites Todd Akin.

Akin was not a Tea party pick. He was the Christian Right/Huck pick. The Tea Party picks (Brunner and Steelman) split the vote and giving the win to Akin.


17 posted on 10/19/2012 11:39:40 AM PDT by nhwingut (Sarah Palin 12... No One Else)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“by Dana Milbank”

A super loon.


18 posted on 10/19/2012 11:40:08 AM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

You mean tea-party candidates like Thompson and Allen?
/sarc


19 posted on 10/19/2012 11:40:21 AM PDT by rhinohunter
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

DemocRATS doubling down on purple koolaid. They are all going down with Lil Barry “Epic Fail and Loser” Soetoro. The tea party is smacking DC silly.


20 posted on 10/19/2012 11:40:58 AM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

He always appeared to be a credible/unbiased source of information (rolling eyes)

21 posted on 10/19/2012 11:41:58 AM PDT by BookmanTheJanitor
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To: taxcontrol
The GOP-e are all deep into the 'reach around' philosophy ~ which is why Dana is running this hit-piece for them.

What in the world is Romney going to do when he goes to the Senate with his RINO appointees and there's nobody there?

22 posted on 10/19/2012 11:43:21 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: rhinohunter
You forget that when George Allen was first elected to office the idea someone would homeschool their kids was considered abnormal, but certainly Conservative.

Most of his critics point to his voting record ~ which, like almost any voting record, will seem to have him voting against interests you hold near and dear ~ but that's an artifact of the number of times Senators' vote plus the result of negotiations and swaps.

Unless you follow the debates and multiple votes you can't really tell what these guys are doing.

George is, in general, more Conservative than most Republican members of the Senate for the last century, and it's hard to find someone more Conservative than that.

23 posted on 10/19/2012 11:47:39 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: taxcontrol

Yep, nothing to do with the fact that we have Romney at the helm. I warned people that they would blame Ryan and the tea party if they lose, and credit themselves if they win.


24 posted on 10/19/2012 11:47:48 AM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Texas, Texas, Whisky)
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To: Perdogg

Tom Smith in Pa. has a chance to unseat Bob Casey in the Senate race.


25 posted on 10/19/2012 11:49:19 AM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

There may be something to this - I think it is true that RINOs and the GOPe are more likely to betray OUR candidates who win primaries than we are to betray theirs.

The RINO/GOPe - GOPt breakdown varies state by state.

If we lose Indiana or Texas, this will need some serious discussion. In 2010, the witch never had a chance but a better candidate than Sharon Angle would have retired Harry Reid.

I have given up on “taking over” the GOP and I think starting a conservative party whose explicit mission is to destroy the existing GOP has more promise.


26 posted on 10/19/2012 11:49:41 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Diseases desperate grown are by desperate appliance relieved or not at all.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
You keep lying to yourself dana... your messiah obama lies to you about everything so it seems natural for you to lie to yourself!

LLS

27 posted on 10/19/2012 11:50:26 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (OUR GOVERNMENT AND PRESS ARE NO LONGER TRUSTWORTHY OR DESERVING OF RESPECT!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

i would rather have 40 Jim DeMints than 60 Susan Collins’


28 posted on 10/19/2012 11:50:53 AM PDT by Snuph ("give me Liberty...")
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To: Perdogg
if you'd bothered watching the Mourdock/Lugar debate, and read up on their positions over a period of years you'd have quickly discovered the big difference was Mourdock doesn't smile as often as Lugar.

Most of the dispute was hype from the Intramountain West crowd who wanted Hatch to become the senior ranking Republican. Lugar stood in his way. They didn't really care about Mourdock, just that Lugar was removed.

29 posted on 10/19/2012 11:52:09 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Uh, please correct headline to “after defeating RINOS, the tea parties could help elect Democrats.”


30 posted on 10/19/2012 11:54:02 AM PDT by zerosix (Native sunflower)
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To: Jim Noble
I have given up on “taking over” the GOP and I think starting a conservative party whose explicit mission is to destroy the existing GOP has more promise.

You have to be kidding. How on earth can you ever get enough votes to win anything if you splinter the party? It would mean perpetual victories for Democrats. There is only one way to do this and that is to win incrementally through the primaries but it is also folly to make kooks like "I am not a witch" as the candidate. They must have broad appeal.

31 posted on 10/19/2012 11:57:09 AM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Yup,it’s helping the Rats.Yet,in spite of that,Republicans and Independents are willing to crawl over broken glass to get to the polls this year whereas Rat voters show no sign of being willing to put down their crack pipes for an hour.


32 posted on 10/19/2012 11:57:50 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Ambassador Stevens Is Dead And The Chevy Volt Is Alive)
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To: Snuph

That won’t work. We MUST have 51 Republicans in whatever combination possible. I’m good with 51 DeMints.


33 posted on 10/19/2012 11:58:55 AM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

That’s a shocker that the Compost Milktoast would want to write an anti-Tea Party article. What’s the matter little Dana, the Tea Party got rid of some of your favorite RINO’s? Are you scared that there is finally a group of citizens who who hold Republicans’ feet to the fire in terms of shrinking the size of government? This started during the midterm election when several Senate seats were kept by Democrats because the Tea Party candidate won the Republican primary. But in the long run, I bet that it is much healthier having Republicans act like it instead of turning liberal the minute they get into office. After all, what’s the point of electing a Republican Senate if they act like Democrats?


34 posted on 10/19/2012 11:59:17 AM PDT by winner3000
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

That’s a shocker that the Compost Milktoast would want to write an anti-Tea Party article. What’s the matter little Dana, the Tea Party got rid of some of your favorite RINO’s? Are you scared that there is finally a group of citizens who who hold Republicans’ feet to the fire in terms of shrinking the size of government? This started during the midterm election when several Senate seats were kept by Democrats because the Tea Party candidate won the Republican primary. But in the long run, I bet that it is much healthier having Republicans act like it instead of turning liberal the minute they get into office. After all, what’s the point of electing a Republican Senate if they act like Democrats?


35 posted on 10/19/2012 11:59:32 AM PDT by winner3000
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Washington ComPost!


36 posted on 10/19/2012 11:59:45 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
"If not for a series of tea party upsets in Republican primaries, the Republicans would be taking over the Senate majority in January. "

We'll see about that when ALL 10 of them win

37 posted on 10/19/2012 11:59:50 AM PDT by Mr. K ("The only thing the World would hate more than the USA in charge is the USA NOT in charge")
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

If Willard and his GOP-e didnt try to kill off our Conservative Senate candidates we might have been well placed to win the Senate...

So now the GOP-e want to blame the TEA Party ...

Typical RINO behavior...

Look up “passing blame” in any dictionary...

Tjhere’ll be a pic of a Rhino...

Look up “political scapegoat”

There’ll be a pic of a TEA Pot...

:(


38 posted on 10/19/2012 12:00:31 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

It turns out that it’s really hard to achieve both of the conservative movement’s objectives: replace left leaning Republicans with real conservatives and gain political power with those solid conservatives. Milbank is correct about what happened in 2010. It remains to be seen if he is correct about the fate of the Senate this year.

It irony is that it all depends on Romney. If he continues the way he is going, he is going to have coattails and those coattails may win the Senate. Romney, no conservative for sure, may put conservatives back in power.


39 posted on 10/19/2012 12:01:05 PM PDT by centurion316
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Ridiculous article.

Todd Akin & Tommy Thompson are having trouble and neither were tea party candidates - in Akin's race tea party support split 3 ways, and Thompson is establishment all the way and only a big push by DeMint & Club for Growth stopped the tea party candidate from winning that primary. Rick Berg has had some difficulty in NoDak and he's establishment all the way.

Mourdock should be fine. Milbank cites Dick Lugar's undercutting of Mourdock as if that's the tea party hurting GOP electoral chances, which is unusually obtuse even for the MSM.

2010 was a wreck, though, with more electable conservatives rejected in Nevada and Colorado, costing us two seats. Blame the Tea Party Express group for the Nevada disaster at least. Ken Buck's loss was more due to a hatchet job by the media, but Jane Norton would've won. (I don't care about Mike Castle's loss.)

40 posted on 10/19/2012 12:02:25 PM PDT by Skulllspitter
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To: Jim Noble
George Romney led a walkout on the Republican National Presidential Convention ~ talk about a RINO!

Some people imagine Obama was raised up in a leftwing, even Communist, home environment ~ (Grandma was a banker ~ so could be, eh ~ first ones in line for their Obama money as I recall), and the point there is that chilluns' raised around people like that soak up that ideology and can never get beyond it.

Some do manage to struggle out of the Red Diaper Baby stage, and there are books about it ~ David Horowitz wrote one, but are there books from RINO raised chillun who talk about walking it back into a society of real Americans?

I doubt it ~ the RINO condition seems to be one of those things that once you've tried it, you don't go back.

The fact that RINOism can't be escaped should concern us all, but it should also spur action to make sure that as we rid ourselves of RINOs we keep their heirs out of the Republican party as well.

They can, of course, continue to make donations, and that should satisfy them.

41 posted on 10/19/2012 12:05:03 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: nhwingut

Akin is probably going to win.


42 posted on 10/19/2012 12:08:15 PM PDT by Perdogg (Vote like the US Constitution depends on it - it does!!)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
How on earth can you ever get enough votes to win anything if you splinter the party?

It's my view that the party is splintered beyond repair already.

Let's chat after Missouri and Indiana are done. If Mourdock and Akin lose, it's proof that winning a GOP primary is meaningless to our GOPe enemies - they are more afraid of us than they are of the Democrats.

Since I believe this to be the case, I think the "splintering the party" is already done - and not by us.

Let's move on.

43 posted on 10/19/2012 12:09:09 PM PDT by Jim Noble (Diseases desperate grown are by desperate appliance relieved or not at all.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

besides PA, Rep.Linda McMahon in CT has 4-6pt lead over Dem Murphy. She is spending 1m/wk while the DSCC is spending 300k/wk for Murph. If CT and PA switch, then despicable Harry Reid will not longer be Leader of the Senate.

Last night Salerno zito on JohnBachelorshow said Smith was up over Casey by 4pts. another speaker said in the collar counties around Philly the yard signs are 10:1 Romney.

Charle Cook and Dana Milbank are singing in a vacumn of their a-holes from the beltway.


44 posted on 10/19/2012 12:09:41 PM PDT by tomd2
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To: Skulllspitter
Ken Buck lost because of Tom Tancredo’s stupid remark about Obama.
45 posted on 10/19/2012 12:09:54 PM PDT by Perdogg (Vote like the US Constitution depends on it - it does!!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Conservatives who have said that they won’t vote for Romney (I understand that they have valid reasons) will be helping Hussein and the Democrats.


46 posted on 10/19/2012 12:11:35 PM PDT by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

why yes, let’s talk about the Coffee Party or OWS! What? Nothing?

let’s talk about “binders” - it was big news on Tuesday!

They FEAR the Tea Party, because for the 2nd time in 2 years, riled-up conservatives are going to help kick leftist @SS at the voting booth.


47 posted on 10/19/2012 12:13:04 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

looks like Dana stood downwind again of a DEA burn event... again


48 posted on 10/19/2012 12:14:08 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer; All

Hogwash, Dana Milbank

If it was not for the Tea Party...those races would not be competitive. Conservatives would have stayed home, period, if RINOs like Dick Lugar were running.

The Tea Party may not be perfect (Marco Rubio in FL, Sarah Steelman instead of Todd Akin in MO), but gets it right most of the time

The GOP wins elections when it runs conservative candidates...because it brings out the base. The myth of “Moderates bring in independent voters” is a myth


49 posted on 10/19/2012 12:16:34 PM PDT by SeminoleCounty (Political maturity is realizing that the "R" next to someone's name does not mean "conservative")
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Is it any wonder that the Tea Party is hated, detested, reviled in Washington, D.C. - America's only remaining boom town in the Age of Obama?

Tea Party candidates are the only ones who promise to reverse the cash flowing from the rest of the country into the nation's capital. The horror!

50 posted on 10/19/2012 12:20:20 PM PDT by andy58-in-nh (Cogito, ergo armatum sum.)
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