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Billy Graham buys election ads after Romney meeting
CNN ^ | October 18, 2012

Posted on 10/19/2012 2:29:36 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper

The most famous and revered pastor in America, Billy Graham, is calling on voters to cast a ballot for their faith in full-page ads in the Wall Street Journal, USA Today and other newspapers.

Graham’s picture appears prominently in the ads, next to copy that reads, “As I approach my 94th birthday, I realize this election could be my last.”

It continues, “I believe it is vitally important that we cast our ballots for candidates who base their decisions on biblical principles and support the nation of Israel. I urge you to vote for those who protect the sanctity of life and support the biblical definition of marriage between a man and a woman. Vote for biblical values this November 6, and pray with me that America will remain one nation under God.”

The ad hit the prominent papers Wednesday and Thursday, and could hit a dozen more newspapers...

(Excerpt) Read more at religion.blogs.cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012; ads; billygraham; christianvote; donors; endorsement; evangelicals; religion; romney
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God bless you, Reverend Graham.
1 posted on 10/19/2012 2:29:41 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper

Nice to see him taking a public stand. I wish he had done it in earlier years, but, rather late than never.


2 posted on 10/19/2012 2:33:10 PM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: SoFloFreeper

I would want a president who is a man of faith to honor this man when we have to lay this man to rest.


3 posted on 10/19/2012 2:33:27 PM PDT by crz
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To: SoFloFreeper

Ditto.


4 posted on 10/19/2012 2:36:45 PM PDT by fhayek
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To: crz

“A man of faith”?

Neither Obama or Romney worship the trinitarian Yahweh God of the Holy Scriptures.

Obama thinks he “IS” a god.

Romney thinks he’ll “become” a god.


5 posted on 10/19/2012 2:41:39 PM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Graham is very very well connected, with lots of people, very powerful people. Harvey MacKay wrote about him in an extemely impressive fashion.

The media doesn’t discuss another thing about Romney, and that is the power behind the mormon church.


6 posted on 10/19/2012 2:43:10 PM PDT by Professional
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To: SoFloFreeper

“’Vote for biblical values this November 6, and pray with me that America will remain one nation under God.’”

Amen, Reverend Graham. Amen and Amen.


7 posted on 10/19/2012 2:44:04 PM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills and none dare call it treason)
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To: fishtank

But sadly, we are stuck with these two canidiates.

A third party canidiate will only get us Obama again.

For all the issues I have with Mitt Romney because he is a Mormon, at least he will not run this country into the ground. I am more worried if Obama gets re-elected, it is lights out for the USA.


8 posted on 10/19/2012 2:45:54 PM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: crz

The lds-org denies that Jesus is the Creator, that everything was created THROUGH Him, BY Him and FOR Him.

They deny that Jesus created even the angels out of nothing.

They do NOT teach the truth about Jesus.

9 posted on 10/19/2012 2:46:06 PM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

How any Christian can support Dems is way beyond me. It’s more than abortion and marriage. The heart of the jackass party is envy, jealousy, bitterness and coveting other people’s money. And idolatry. It”s all about replacing God with government. They want people to look to and rely on gov rather than God.
I wish more Christians would get this.


10 posted on 10/19/2012 2:48:38 PM PDT by all the best (`~!)
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To: Biggirl

Romney is ahead in the polls.

He’s picking up likely voters left and right.

If he governs the nation as a conservative, maybe I’ll vote for him in 2016.

But right now, I really don’t trust him, and I will put my trust in God, not in the 2-party system.


11 posted on 10/19/2012 2:48:53 PM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: fishtank

What you say may be accurate, but I have come to the conclusion that I will vote for Mitt Romney just like I voted for George Bush Sr. who is a good man, professes a belief in God, but may not actually have a personal relationship with Christ.

If the criteria is to only vote for a born-again Christian, then we may only seldom vote. What about other candidates for other offices?

Yes, Mitt Romney is a Mormon, but how is that any different from any non-believer who runs for office? I see no Biblical command to only vote for Christ followers, although of course it would be great to have many more such options.


12 posted on 10/19/2012 2:52:37 PM PDT by Obadiah (The corrupt MSM is the enemy of the American people.)
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To: fishtank
If he governs the nation as a conservative, maybe I’ll vote for him in 2016.

If lots of people think like you Romney won't be running in 2016, we'll be fortunate to HAVE and election in 2016.

13 posted on 10/19/2012 2:53:06 PM PDT by madison10
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To: madison10

and=an *rolling eyes*


14 posted on 10/19/2012 2:55:06 PM PDT by madison10
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To: Obadiah

I don’t trust the GOP-e, and I don’t trust the SLC-org, either.

Name one nationally known conservative lds politician, other than the recent woman who just got elected (I forget her name).

You’ve got the Hatches, the Reids, the Udalls, the Romneys. All LIBS.

Look at my tagline. I designed it for Rush Limbaugh, who seems to think that lower taxes is the only thing that defines conservatism.

My tagline ALSO should be a defining conviction for Romney.

I am NOT NOT NOT convinced he’s a “conservative”.


15 posted on 10/19/2012 2:59:21 PM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: Persevero

” I wish he had done it in earlier years, but, rather late than never.”

We never had an America-hating Muslim Marxist as POTUS before.


16 posted on 10/19/2012 3:00:17 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ((God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.))
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To: fishtank
“A man of faith”?

Neither Obama or Romney worship the trinitarian Yahweh God of the Holy Scriptures.

The poster did not say evangelical, or Catholic, or orthodox, or Jewish... He said a "man of faith". We do not have to believe that his religious beliefs are true and correct to recognize that Romney is indeed a "man of faith"...

17 posted on 10/19/2012 3:00:30 PM PDT by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: fishtank

I will vote for Mitt Romney as will my husband. Was he our first choice? No. But we believe that we are just as accountable to the Lord for not voting as we are accountable for who we vote for.

I refuse to let my absence at the polls translate into a vote for Obama. And Biden. And Holder. And Napalitano. And Sebelius. And Clinton (although I guess she plans to quit).


18 posted on 10/19/2012 3:07:41 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (Don't be afraid to see what you see. -- Ronald Reagan)
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To: fishtank

I’m not convinced Romney is a conservative, either. He says he can be. I am willing to give him a chance to show me. I am convinced Obama is a communist. He has said as much, and is showing us. I am not willing to give him another turn. We are not on a Christian crusade here, although it would be nice if we had that choice. I believe we are here to hire one of 2 applicants for a job.


19 posted on 10/19/2012 3:09:33 PM PDT by Quickgun (Second Amendment. The only one you can put your hands on.)
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To: Quickgun

turn=term


20 posted on 10/19/2012 3:10:26 PM PDT by Quickgun (Second Amendment. The only one you can put your hands on.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

There’s a reason my 17 month old has the middle name Graham.


21 posted on 10/19/2012 3:12:10 PM PDT by personalaccts (Is George W going to protect the border?)
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To: fishtank

Romney thinks he’ll “become” a god.
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Really? What EXACTLY as led you to this conclusion? No generalties please, just facts to substantiate your statement. What specifically has Romney said that would lead you to make this assertion or is this just your unsubstantiated opionion? Please be honest.


22 posted on 10/19/2012 3:12:31 PM PDT by Starboard
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To: fishtank
So--you want me to vote for Obama?

Or NOT vote, and essentially do the same thing by default?

We are a democracy--not a theocracy, and I will vote for the man who can best lead the governance of my country, not my eternal soul!

23 posted on 10/19/2012 3:16:55 PM PDT by milagro (There is no peace in appeasement.)
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To: fishtank

Your statements are false.


24 posted on 10/19/2012 3:18:31 PM PDT by Dan(9698)
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To: Quickgun

I’m not convinced Romney is a conservative, either. He says he can be. I am willing to give him a chance to show me.
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God willing, Romney may wind up saving the country from the destructive path its on. For that, he doesn’t have to be the prefect conservative.

And the sad reality is that he and his family will pay a terrible personal price as the left will attack him visciously and relentlessly. Who among us would be willing to endure that personal ordeal? Rather than us giving him a chance, if you think about it he’s giving us a chance.


25 posted on 10/19/2012 3:23:05 PM PDT by Starboard
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To: fishtank

IIRC, Jimmy Carter was a “born again” Christian. So much for that guideline for voting.


26 posted on 10/19/2012 3:25:58 PM PDT by JudyinCanada
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To: fishtank
I am NOT NOT NOT convinced he’s a “conservative”.

I agree, I'm not convinced he is conservative either, but I am also convinced that Obama is not only a communist, but that he is not an American.

This election comes down to a choice between capitalism and comunism.

Sit out and you are telling the world that you would rather have 4 more years of communism than a capitalist who happens to be a RINO Republican running things.

It's as simple as that.
27 posted on 10/19/2012 3:30:04 PM PDT by OneVike (I'm just a Christian waiting to go home)
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To: fishtank

You must have a real problem with the Jews then.


28 posted on 10/19/2012 3:31:39 PM PDT by crz
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To: JudyinCanada
IIRC, Jimmy Carter was a “born again” Christian.

After leaving office, Carter dropped being a Southern Baptist, and formally left them.

29 posted on 10/19/2012 3:45:56 PM PDT by ansel12 (Mitt Romney is a mixture of LBJ and Nixon, Obama is a mixture of LBJ and Jimmy Carter.)
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To: Starboard

Bishop Romney does believe that he will become a God, as does Harry Reid, both are Temple Mormons, many think that Mitt has already received the “second anointing”.

Here is the Catholic description of the polytheistic cult.

*””Mormonism teaches that we are all children of God the Father, and that we were first born in Heaven as spirits. Like all people, these spirits come down to earth to inhabit the bodies of babies just being born, where after they grow, learn, and return to God. During this “compression” into the infant state, the memories of their pre-existence are “veiled.” Even God was once a Man like ourselves who evolved into a god.

By following all the rules and ordinances of God here, Mormon men and women have the potential of also becoming gods (by first becoming a good Mormon, paying a full ten percent tithe to the Mormon church, and follow various laws and ordinances of the church). “As god once was, man is. As God is, man may become” (Joseph Smith’s words). Mormons believe that there are many worlds and many gods. Each god is similar to God the Father, having the same powers and omnipotence, and even being able to create their own worlds. “Heavenly Father” is only the name of the god who rules over this world.””


30 posted on 10/19/2012 3:52:49 PM PDT by ansel12 (Mitt Romney is a mixture of LBJ and Nixon, Obama is a mixture of LBJ and Jimmy Carter.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Bill Clinton wasn’t a conservative either..yet,the pubs dragged him kicking and screaming to do the right thing.
Most of the good that came out of Clinton Admin,that he now takes credit for, wasn’t his doing.


31 posted on 10/19/2012 3:59:19 PM PDT by Leep (Forward! to serfdom)
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To: ansel12

Thank you for that “unbiased” clip from www.catholicapologetics.info.

I see they also they are not too charitable to Protestants or other religions.


32 posted on 10/19/2012 4:07:56 PM PDT by Starboard
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To: fishtank

SCENARIO: Your church is burning down and there are two firemen. One wants to see it burn down and the other wants to put the fire out. Neither belong to the church. Do you ask the fireman who wants to help to put the fire out or do you simply walk away and let the church burn down? Maybe a stupid analogy but WE NEED YOUR VOTE! ;o))
Have you watched this? It is awesome and brought me to tears!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kV_5qvRTDUc


33 posted on 10/19/2012 4:11:20 PM PDT by Sea2ShiningSea
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To: OneVike

Absolutely!
Mitt may not be perfect, but he’s a darn sight better than 0.


34 posted on 10/19/2012 4:15:05 PM PDT by kimchi lover (Obyebye 2012)
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To: Sea2ShiningSea

Maybe a stupid analogy
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Not stupid at all. In fact, its very well put. In a very real sense, we are on the precipice of an unthinkable national disaster that will destroy out children’s future. We simply must get Obama out of office.


35 posted on 10/19/2012 4:17:45 PM PDT by Starboard
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To: JudyinCanada

Please tell us what guidelines you use for voting. A person can well be born again, believing that Jesus is Lord, and that God raised Him from the dead, and yet still be mistaken in other matters. That still does not nullify that he is indeed born again.


36 posted on 10/19/2012 4:30:46 PM PDT by righttackle44 ( I may not be much, but I raised a United States Marine . . .)
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To: fishtank

Yep, I’m totally with you on that. And, I know when elected that Romney will stab Conservatives in the back (and the front). But what’s the alternative? The premature destruction of the USA? Sort of a Hobson’s choice here.


37 posted on 10/19/2012 4:40:57 PM PDT by Obadiah (The corrupt MSM is the enemy of the American people.)
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To: Starboard

Protestant denominations are not a different religion, they are different Christian denominations.

All Christian denominations agree that Mormonism is a different, non-Christian religion, the Orthodox, the Protestants, and the Catholics all agree on that.

Besides, I thought that your question was about whether Romney expects to become a God, not to mock Christians.

Are you a Mormon, or just anti-Christian?


38 posted on 10/19/2012 4:43:57 PM PDT by ansel12 (Mitt Romney is a mixture of LBJ and Nixon, Obama is a mixture of LBJ and Jimmy Carter.)
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To: fishtank
If he governs the nation as a conservative, maybe I’ll vote for him in 2016.

Can not believe that you prefer obama. You must be very young or just confused.

39 posted on 10/19/2012 4:45:47 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: righttackle44

Voting for someone who claims to be “Christian” means nothing. President Obama makes such a claim. I think he makes that claim because he knows it is helpful if you want to win elections.

Jimmy Carter was a Democrat - I don’t remember that much about him, but as a Democrat, I would assume he was pro abortion, but, I could be wrong.

Can a born-again Christian support abortion, homosexual behaviour, etc? Personally, I don’t think so.


40 posted on 10/19/2012 4:53:15 PM PDT by JudyinCanada
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To: Obadiah
... I know when elected that Romney will stab Conservatives in the back ...

And how might you know that? Did you have a vivid dream one night?

41 posted on 10/19/2012 5:01:55 PM PDT by ken in texas (I was taught to respect my elders but it keeps getting harder to find any.)
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To: all the best

Well said!


42 posted on 10/19/2012 5:11:22 PM PDT by Donnafrflorida (Thru HIM all things are possible.)
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To: fishtank
I am NOT NOT NOT convinced he’s a “conservative”.

You don't have to be convinced. He's running against a satanic beast who will take our guns, outlaw freedom of speech, and take the U.S. into third world status. Guaranteed you won't have a chance to tell people how convinced you are if Obama gets back in.

If you don't vote for Romney, you're helping the evil one, like it or not. You can spin it anyway you want but that's the bottom line.

43 posted on 10/19/2012 5:17:50 PM PDT by Kenny (<p)
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To: fishtank

Same here.

First and second, always, always, put one’s trust in God/Jesus Christ, not on mere human beings, includling politicos.


44 posted on 10/19/2012 6:00:47 PM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: SoFloFreeper; Colofornian

May God have mercy on Billy Graham, he had become an apostate in the past, and he is proving it now by making any claim or connection of the Mormon Romney to actually being aligned rightly with God.

Both Romney and Obama have followed a ‘god’ that is directly condemned in Scripture: Mormonism and Islam.

Gal 1:6 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:
Gal 1:7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
Gal 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
Gal 1:9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any [man] preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.


45 posted on 10/19/2012 6:01:59 PM PDT by RaceBannon (When Chuck Norris goes to bed, he checks under it for Clint Eastwood!)
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To: fishtank

Whose beliefs on the issues we face lines up more with the Bible?

Hint: His name does not start with “O.”


46 posted on 10/19/2012 6:02:50 PM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears (John Roberts did more to endanger the lives of Americans than all 9/11 hijackers combined.)
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To: fishtank
What do you become when you die and are resurrected? I am not a Mormon, but I find this thinking you become a God criticism odd.

Jesus said to call him brother and God Abba (father).

I don't think we become pets or Angels. If that is the case, what becomes of us?

47 posted on 10/19/2012 6:09:41 PM PDT by FreeAtlanta (christian.bahits.com)
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To: fishtank

If Obama wins because people like you sit home, and he gets to appoint pro-abort, pro-gay marriage, socialist Supreme Court justices, you can pat yourself on the back for how pious you were.

And you can brag to your grandchildren that they lost their liberty and Constitutional rights because you were so smart and principled and sat home.

God does not command us to duck our responsibility, and by sitting home, you are guaranteeing Obama has a better chance of destroying my country.

You should be ashamed of yourself.


48 posted on 10/19/2012 6:10:18 PM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears (John Roberts did more to endanger the lives of Americans than all 9/11 hijackers combined.)
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To: RaceBannon

Take a hike.

Even Paul recognized civil authority, the pagan civil authority of Rome. He used that authority to his benefit, even if he did not acknowledge the godless religion of the men who headed that government.

We are facing the end of our Republic with Obamugabe. Graham is doing the right thing.


49 posted on 10/19/2012 6:12:27 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: RaceBannon

I remember you. You are the one who pirated Dinesh D’Souza’s “2016: Obama’s America” and posted it it here, effectively robbing Dinesh from box office profits. Until YouTube took it down.

And now you castigate Billy Graham for supporting a man whose values and policies are ABSOLUTELY more in line with the Bible that Israel-hating, baby-murdering, America-hating, whitey-hating, pro-gay-marriage Obama?

Color me unimpressed.


50 posted on 10/19/2012 6:23:35 PM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears (John Roberts did more to endanger the lives of Americans than all 9/11 hijackers combined.)
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