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Illegal Entry the Only Option for Many Immigrants
KRGV.com ^ | Oct 19, 2012 | KRGV.com

Posted on 10/19/2012 7:17:26 PM PDT by moonshinner_09

WESLACO - Illegal entry into the United States is the only option for many who seek to escape poverty and violence, experts said.

Immigrants put their money, trust and ultimately their lives in the hands of human smugglers. Some of those smugglers are not old enough to hold a driver's license.

One of those smugglers is accused of crashing a van loaded with 17 illegal immigrants near Palmview. Life ended for nine of those immigrants.

"These smugglers are ruthless people," Border Patrol Spokesman Henry Mendiola said.

Mendiola is familiar with the carnage left behind by some of the human smugglers.

"These people reconsider, but by that time it's too late," he said.

The lucky ones to walk away from a wreck may return home to nothing.

"They sold every last goat, every piece of cattle they had, their house, their property," Mendiola said.

(Excerpt) Read more at krgv.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: aliens; immigration; smugglers; texas
I could take the news crew to some ghettos in Houston so shall they see poverty and violence on the same level to what you will see in 3rd world countries.And Southwest Houston looks like a 3rd world.
1 posted on 10/19/2012 7:17:29 PM PDT by moonshinner_09
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To: moonshinner_09

That would ruin their propaganda streak.


2 posted on 10/19/2012 7:18:11 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: moonshinner_09
"Illegal entry into the United States is the only option"?

They should go to Venezuela!

3 posted on 10/19/2012 7:23:34 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: moonshinner_09

Here in northern NJ you can go to the Meadowlands Flea Market (next to Giants Stadium) and see all of the Americans selling their tools to illegal aliens that took those jobs; the illegals are flush with cash, while the Americans are selling their appliances and other belongings along with the tools they used in the past to provide for their families.

Nobodu will ever convince me that illegal immigration has any positive side to it; the legal immigration brings up enough problems. Genuine legal immigration is one thing, but the H1-B program is pure BS to keep tech sector wages down.


4 posted on 10/19/2012 7:24:06 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

But Venezuela wont give them an EBT card!


5 posted on 10/19/2012 7:26:11 PM PDT by sarasmom
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To: kearnyirish2

Only option???????? Stay in your own lousy country and make it better. Freedom isn’t free.


6 posted on 10/19/2012 7:27:10 PM PDT by ogen hal (First amendment or reeducation camp?)
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To: moonshinner_09; Liz

I dont know of any immigrant who had to enter illegally...

but i know of millions of illegal aliens who did...


7 posted on 10/19/2012 7:27:32 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: moonshinner_09

Here is an option: bloom where God planted you.


8 posted on 10/19/2012 7:27:37 PM PDT by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: moonshinner_09
Let's exile the experts.
9 posted on 10/19/2012 7:28:52 PM PDT by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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To: moonshinner_09

Bank robbery is often the only option for those merely trying to get by....

Heroin dealing is often the only option for many...

Prostitution is the only way out of poverty for many people...

Breaking and entering can be a way to get out of working...

I do feel bad that many countries have such toxic politics that the people feel hopeless. But I’d rather help them fix the politics where they live, than invite them here to set up colonies with toxic politics.


10 posted on 10/19/2012 7:29:35 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: moonshinner_09

Illegal entry into the United States is the only option for many who seek to escape poverty

They sold every last goat, every piece of cattle they had, their house, their property,” Mendiola said.
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Seems these illegal aliens dont have a poverty problem at all...

theyre richer than many Americans...


11 posted on 10/19/2012 7:30:46 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: moonshinner_09
Illegal entry into the United States is the only option for many who seek to escape poverty and violence

They're bringing poverty with them and we're constantly told how bad our "brutal gun culture" is. Maybe they would man up and make their own country better if they were to man up and take control of their own lives in their own country.
12 posted on 10/19/2012 7:31:37 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Illegal Entry to Banks the Only Option for Many in Need of Money

Illegal Entry to Cars the Only Option for Many in Need of Transportation

Illegal Entry to Houses the Only Option for Many in Need of Televisions


13 posted on 10/19/2012 7:31:53 PM PDT by Henry Hnyellar
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To: Henry Hnyellar

GMTA! Beecha Tuit! lol


14 posted on 10/19/2012 7:34:39 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: sarasmom

Won’t get a free phone either!


15 posted on 10/19/2012 7:37:24 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: ogen hal

Vicente Fox specifically asked Bush not to close the open border with Mexico because having so many unemployed young men would de-stabilize the country. Bush obliged, and in doing so prevented an overhaul of Mexico (an oil-producing country) that was long overdue.

Rather than fix their countries they come here and in many cases make ours worse.


16 posted on 10/19/2012 7:38:42 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

How about the Pope relocating them to vatican city


17 posted on 10/19/2012 7:41:01 PM PDT by moonshinner_09
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To: moonshinner_09

Or they could man-up and fix their own countries.


18 posted on 10/19/2012 7:41:27 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1368 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Obama, a queer and present danger)
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To: moonshinner_09
I am not sure if they are true refugees. Although I have talked to some that said their town was a shooting gallery run by gangs of narco-terrorists that will shoot people just for amusement.

If that is true maybe we should set up camps along the border to house them while we work on a better solution.
At least they don't intermingle with our citizens and create additional social problems.

19 posted on 10/19/2012 7:43:33 PM PDT by oldbrowser (An empty chair attracts a stadium full of empty chairs.)
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To: kearnyirish2

Amen! I couldn’t agree more.


20 posted on 10/19/2012 7:43:40 PM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: moonshinner_09

escape poverty and violence, go to Detroit


21 posted on 10/19/2012 7:53:02 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: moonshinner_09

In 1979, Deng Xiaoping arrived here on an official visit. China was emerging from the Cultural Revolution, and poised to embark on the capitalist road. When President Carter sat down with Mr. Deng, he told him he was concerned over the right of the Chinese people to immigrate. The Jackson-Vanik amendment, Mr. Carter said, prohibited granting most favored nation trade status to regimes that did not allow their people to immigrate.

“Well, Mr. President,” Deng cheerfully replied, “Just how many Chinese do you want? Ten million. Twenty million. Thirty million?”

Deng’s answer stopped Carter cold. In a few words, the Chinese leader had driven home a point Mr. Carter seemed not to have grasped: Hundreds of millions of people would immigrate to America in an eyelash, far more than we could take in, far more than our existing population of 270 million...

- Pat Buchanan -


22 posted on 10/19/2012 7:54:27 PM PDT by donna (Pray for revival.)
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To: moonshinner_09

Their only option is to stay where they are and straighten out their own country!


23 posted on 10/19/2012 8:00:38 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: moonshinner_09
And in other news...

Armed robbery is the "only option" for many Americans. Same for rape and murder.

24 posted on 10/19/2012 8:07:27 PM PDT by MCH
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To: moonshinner_09

Unemployment in Mexico hangs around 5%, and 5% is considered in the US as full employment, as there are always 5% of the working population unable or unwilling to work.

Since the jobs are in Mexico and not in the US, tell me again why the Mexicans are illegally entering the US??


25 posted on 10/19/2012 8:08:58 PM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: moonshinner_09

The Only Option????

No, not the only option. They have another option. Their grand and great-grand parents chose a much different, much bolder, much more honorable, and much more effective option during the first two decades of the 20th century. Tis a shame their decendents today don’t have the guts to do the same.


26 posted on 10/19/2012 8:12:53 PM PDT by Ed Story
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To: moonshinner_09

Immigration to America is a privilege, not a right. There are literally billions who would like to come here. No country in the world has unlimited immigration.


27 posted on 10/19/2012 8:31:27 PM PDT by kabar
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To: moonshinner_09

“They sold every last goat, every piece of cattle they had, their house, their property,” Mendiola said.”

Betting everything on one roll of the dice is stupid. Sometimes you win but more often than not, you lose.


28 posted on 10/19/2012 8:33:15 PM PDT by Holly_P
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To: moonshinner_09

Making their problem our problem.


29 posted on 10/19/2012 8:47:04 PM PDT by Iron Munro (Psalm 109:8 "Let his days be few, and let another take his office.")
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To: moonshinner_09

“Illegal Entry the Only Option for Many Immigrants”

Huh?

They have another “option”:
STAY HOME.


30 posted on 10/19/2012 8:59:34 PM PDT by Road Glide
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To: moonshinner_09

These people ought to spend as much effort trying to fix their own damned country instead of trying to steal mine


31 posted on 10/19/2012 9:09:44 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: moonshinner_09
"...who seek to escape poverty and violence,"

And end up adding to the same in some US city.

32 posted on 10/19/2012 9:13:12 PM PDT by moehoward
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To: moonshinner_09

Gee, there are hundreds of millions of poor Chinese...should we start ferrying them over?

Just because you can walk across doesn’t make it okay.


33 posted on 10/19/2012 9:18:36 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Democrats are dangerous and evil. Republicans are just useful idiots.)
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To: Fledermaus

We’ve got to turn off the magnet. Open borders and a welfare aren’t compatible.


34 posted on 10/19/2012 9:27:23 PM PDT by umgud (No Rats, No Rino's)
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To: moonshinner_09
... if they stay in their country ... it's a sure thing they're going to be harmed. They're going to be killed,"

Wouldn't that mean everybody that stayed is dead?

35 posted on 10/19/2012 10:43:44 PM PDT by PressurePoint
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Mexico pushes north at a furious pace---throwing its "pressure groups" over the border---salivating to takeover the SW--- financing and coaching their fifth column invasion of US borders.

The wailing and whining invaders' propaganda-----"just here for a better life, to do jobs Americanos won't do"---really "gets" bleeding heart sap-happy liberals.....and vote-crazed US politicians.

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The latino criminal underworld on US soil has more criminal enterprises than you can shake a stick at.

<><>ICE's "documents and benefits fraud task force" found a common practice among "impoverished" illegals is to buy several faked identities for several thousand dollars each----the illegal then votes and rides the US gravy train under several names.

<><> Jose Madrigal---the Washington state rapist---had some 30 identities. And probably voted and collected US benefits under every single identity.

<><>June 26, 2010 An illegal using multiple identities was sentenced to prison and ordered to pay back $3 million in fraudulently obtained unemployment compensation. Manuel Mejia Ordonez, got eight years for conspiracy to commit mail fraud........and identity theft.

<><> Hilderberto Salinas sold state drivers' licenses issued out of the state’s Motor Vehicle Agency in NJ to illegals with multiple identities who did not have the necessary id's....among 40 people who participated in the widespread ring. "Impoverished" illegals paid $2,500 to $7,000 apiece for the licenses.

<><> July 21, 2006----NJ BERGEN RECORD---Pelcastre brothers, Angel and Jorge, Dallas, Texas, were a walking threat to US national security, expert document forgers who, for a few thousand dollars, could give anyone a new identity, NJ L/E authorities said. The Texas brothers were a "one-stop shop" for a myriad of fake US documents, including birth certificates, Social Security cards, driver's licenses----for any state in the US------ passports and resident alien cards, said state police.

The Texas brothers turned a NJ hotel room into a business office and were readying a massive cache of fake Social Security cards for delivery to a local NJ identity broker. Officers happened upon two cars bearing Texas plates in a NJ hotel parking lot. The Texas brothers were followed to a NJ office supply store nearby where they purchased computer supplies. Officers then followed the Texans to a NJ storage facility in Secaucus, NJ, where the Texans loaded several boxes into a car. One of them stood lookout.

After a search, police recovered laminating sheets with built-in security features, pages of blank documents waiting for fake names and information, finished documents, computers and software to create the fake IDs.

All told, the haul was worth about $500,000 on the street when sold to "impoverished illegals." Police also recovered $6,000 in cash, which was the first payment from a NJ fake document broker for a shipment of 500 phony Social Security cards. ####

<><> US Dept of the Treasury Says Illegal Aliens Collecting Billions in Tax Credits According to the US Dept of Treasury’s Inspector General, more than $4.2 billion in additional child credits were paid out in 2010 to illegal immigrants. In 2005, the pay outs totaled $924 million. This program allows low income earners to claim a $1,000 per child credit. $20 billion EITC is estimated to have been paid out to these cunning "impoverished" illegals. Most of them are collecting over and over again-----using multiple identities-----falsifying official apps---claiming children they do not have and/or falsely stating kids are back in their homelands.

REFERENCE March 8, 2012 KENNER, La. -- Kenner police arrested illegal Marvin Baca who sold false W-2 forms to another illegal immigrant for $1,500. Baca sold fraudulent W-2 forms for $1,500 to other Hispanics here illegally.

Police said that on one of the forged W-2 forms had a SS no of a person living in Virginia. Police said illegal Hispanics purchase fictitious W-2 forms and file false tax returns with the government to receive EITC refunds. Baca was charged with one count of ID theft and two counts of forgery.

36 posted on 10/20/2012 10:03:04 AM PDT by Liz ("Come quickly, I'm tasting the stars," Dom Perignon)
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Viscious Mexican gangs and drug cartels are said to operate freely across the border in Austin---the Texas state capital---right under the noses of the pols. Read on.

EDITED Zeta hit man details killings on both sides of border mySA.com | January 24, 2012 | Jason Buch / FR Posted by SwinneySwitch

LAREDO, TEXAS — A hit man for the Zetas Mexican drug cartel calmly related to jurors in a drug conspiracy trial---to his role as a hired killer.

In US District Court. Rosalio Reta pointed to Gerardo Castillo Chavez, 25, and identified him as a fellow Zeta. Reta, 22, told jurors that he had been in a team of hit men headed by Gabriel Cardona, an admitted Zeta, who has pleaded guilty to five murders that occurred in Texas 2005-06.

Reta said he was the triggerman in the murder of Moises Garcia, a Mexican Mafia prison gang member, in Dec 2005.

Reta, a U.S. citizen, received national media attention after the teenager was deported from Mexico in 2006 at age 17. He's known for his distinctive facial tattoos and boasts that he became a killer when he was 13 years old.

Prosecutors say Castillo Chavez was also a sicario, or hit man, in a crew that worked with Cardona's group, gunning down two people at a busy Laredo, Texas intersection in April 2006.

He faces up to life in prison if convicted on firearms and racketeering charges and wide-ranging drug conspiracy charges; prosecutors presented evidence of a decade's worth of Zeta operations in Texas.

Reta said that he fled to Mexico after two murders in Texas, for which he's now serving 70 years in prison, and worked with Castillo Chavez.” In May 2006, Reta testified, a team of killers was dispatched to El Punto Vivo, a nightclub in a suburb of Monterrey, Mexico.

“Hitmen Chema and Chavezs went into the bar,” Reta said. “They shot, they threw some grenades and they killed four people.”

Afterward, the hit squad went to a convenience store for snacks and drinks. Prosecutors played security video showing Reta and three others making purchases.

Jurors also heard Laredo police detective Robert Garcia testify that he linked the sicarios using phone records.

The big break came when an insider---a DEA informant---was tasked by the Zetas with renting a safe house for Cardona's crew. Garcia said he worked with the feds to thwart the Zetas' attempted hits and to gather evidence.

Defense attorneys questioned Reta as to why someone who had shown great care to hideout after killings in the U.S. would so brazenly hang out at a convenience store, even microwave popcorn, after committing a high-profile killing in Mexico.

“In Mexico, the cartels run everything,” Reta replied. “So it doesn't matter if you get caught on video. We are the law over there.

Rosalio Reta.

37 posted on 10/20/2012 10:04:04 AM PDT by Liz ("Come quickly, I'm tasting the stars," Dom Perignon)
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