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CIA documents supported Susan Rice’s description of Benghazi attacks (Obama CYA leaks)
The Washington Post ^ | Friday, October 19, 2012 | David Ignatius

Posted on 10/19/2012 8:20:06 PM PDT by kristinn

...Romney campaign may have misfired with its suggestion that statements by President Obama and U.N. Ambassador Susan Rice about the Benghazi attack last month weren’t supported by intelligence,...

“Talking points” prepared by the CIA on Sept. 15, the same day that Rice taped three television appearances, support her description of the Sept. 11 attack on the U.S. Consulate as a reaction to Arab anger about an anti-Muslim video prepared in the United States. According to the CIA account, “The currently available information suggests that the demonstrations in Benghazi were spontaneously inspired by the protests at the U.S. Embassy in Cairo and evolved into a direct assault against the U.S. Consulate and subsequently its annex. There are indications that extremists participated in the violent demonstrations.”

The CIA document went on: “This assessment may change as additional information is collected and analyzed and as currently available information continues to be evaluated.” This may sound like self-protective boilerplate, but it reflects the analysts’ genuine problem interpreting fragments of intercepted conversation, video surveillance and source reports.

The senior intelligence official said the analysts’ judgment was based in part on monitoring of some of the Benghazi attackers, which showed they had been watching the Cairo protests live on television and talking about them before they assaulted the consulate....

...“It was a flash mob with weapons,” is how the senior official described the attackers. The mob included members of the Ansar al-Sharia militia, about four members of al-Qaeda in the Maghreb, and members of the Egypt-based Muhammad Jamal network, along with other unarmed looters.

...official said the only major change he would make now in the CIA’s Sept. 15 talking points would be to drop the word “spontaneous” and substitute “opportunistic.” He explained that there apparently was “some pre-coordination but minimal planning.”

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KEYWORDS: benghazi; benghazicoverup; christopherstevens; cia; ciabenghazi; ciastationchief; davidignatius; libya; libyaciachief; libyaciastationchief; obama; petraeus; petraeusbenghazi
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The clown car cover up continues.

Amb. Rice on ABC's This Week on September 16:

But our current best assessment, based on the information that we have at present, is that, in fact, what this began as, it was a spontaneous -- not a premeditated -- response to what had transpired in Cairo. In Cairo, as you know, a few hours earlier, there was a violent protest that was undertaken in reaction to this very offensive video that was disseminated.

We believe that folks in Benghazi, a small number of people came to the embassy to -- or to the consulate, rather, to replicate the sort of challenge that was posed in Cairo. And then as that unfolded, it seems to have been hijacked, let us say, by some individual clusters of extremists who came with heavier weapons, weapons that as you know in -- in the wake of the revolution in Libya are -- are quite common and accessible. And it then evolved from there.

We'll wait to see exactly what the investigation finally confirms, but that's the best information we have at present.

Contrary to this CIA leak and Rice's statement, there was no demonstration in Benghazi. And the administration knew that in real time on September 11.

1 posted on 10/19/2012 8:20:16 PM PDT by kristinn
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To: kristinn

That’s the real point. It really doesn’t matter why the consulate was under attack starting 9pm local time. The point is that 100s of American watchstanders at State, the Pentagon, CIA, and the White House (if they cared) were watching and hearing the attack in real time.

But only one man could order a rescue or do anything involving American force, either from Tripoli, southern Italy, or ships at sea, and that man, Obama, instead of a rescue mission, dreamed up the video story to cover his ass.


2 posted on 10/19/2012 8:26:43 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: kristinn

I do not believe the washingtom compost.

They have their collective heads so far up owebama’s arse they can see pinch sulzberger’s ankles.


3 posted on 10/19/2012 8:26:53 PM PDT by 43north (BHO: 50% black, 50% white, 100% RED)
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To: kristinn

Oh my god they are building a cover up right before our eyes in PLAIN SIGHT and the media is complicit! WOW!


4 posted on 10/19/2012 8:28:15 PM PDT by Castigar
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To: kristinn

Nothing there to indicate that there had been warnings FOR MONTHS that trouble was brewing and the Ambassador had been begging for more security. He got less.

We knew here a year ago that Benghazi was a center of al Queda and had been a main source for fighters in Iraq. Are we supposed to believe that the CIA was not aware of this?
Should the Agency join FR in order to get an idea about what it happening?


5 posted on 10/19/2012 8:28:44 PM PDT by arrogantsob (The Disaster MUST Go. Sarah herself supports Romney.)
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To: kristinn

It appears that different stories are being “leaked”...Hannity had information that is quite different from what is being “leaked” here. What Romney should focus on is Obama’s handling of the crisis....when did he talk PERSONALLY with his National security council? Axlerod would not answer a direct question about this. If he is saying he identified the attack as “terror,” why not meet with State and CIA, etc. to nail it down?
We know the answer....he went to Las Vega...he “phoned” it in like he does everything...


6 posted on 10/19/2012 8:31:24 PM PDT by t2buckeye
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To: kristinn

Hold on a second, they claimed the mob was caused by the video which is false.


7 posted on 10/19/2012 8:32:22 PM PDT by Perdogg (Vote like the US Constitution depends on it - it does!!)
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To: kristinn
"a flash mob with weapons." Right. Nobody but a stonecold liar or an incompetent retarded idiot would make this statement, given that the CIA watched the entire operation in real time over satellite link.

In Obama's CIA I couldn't rule out either possibility.

9 posted on 10/19/2012 8:33:30 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: kristinn

Mr. Obama....
http://movieclips.com/S3nE-witness-for-the-prosecution-movie-a-chronic-and-habitual-liar/66.8/76.51/


10 posted on 10/19/2012 8:36:13 PM PDT by Beave Meister (Die Hard Cubs Fan.....if it takes forever.)
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To: kristinn

Thanks to Fox News for the special. It would be helpful to give the times in Benghazi time and in Washington, D.C. Time. “This happened at 10:15pm Benghazi time and ??:?? Washington, D.C. Time.” Gives us a reference.


11 posted on 10/19/2012 8:36:42 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: kristinn

Gee, I don’t know—a WaPo-viewed 9/15 “CIA [unattributed] report” vs. sworn testimony from real-time observers and actual tapes. That’s a tough one. Bret Baier’s report didn’t come a moment too soon.


12 posted on 10/19/2012 8:37:34 PM PDT by Mach9
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To: blueunicorn6

IIRC, Libya six hours ahead of D.C.


13 posted on 10/19/2012 8:40:05 PM PDT by kristinn (Dump the Chump in 2012)
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To: kristinn

If the cia will paint iranian nukes as an issue of the past in 2007 to prevent bush from having evidence to act, why wouldn’t it be possible they would write talking points to make obama look less pathetic?

And this seems to differ with other reports which stated they knew the next day that it wasn’t the video. I watched the video, by the way. I thought it was spot on.


14 posted on 10/19/2012 8:42:52 PM PDT by GodfearingTexan
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To: kristinn

What?! So did Issa and Chaffetz get to look at those docs in the closed door sessions prior to the public hearings? If not, who’s withholding them?
Time for a subpoena. Let Bambi invoke exec privilege.


15 posted on 10/19/2012 8:43:45 PM PDT by rfp1234
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To: Travis McGee

As long as folks focus on the attack being monitored in real time by the Obama administration, the rest will become clear.


16 posted on 10/19/2012 8:44:55 PM PDT by kristinn (Dump the Chump in 2012)
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To: kristinn

Aiding and abetting TREASON. (thanks for posting, kristinn)


17 posted on 10/19/2012 8:46:49 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: kristinn

If career CIA agents are willing to sacrifice for this guy, one, he’s got more power than I even thought and two, this nation is officially over. All that has to happen now is someone turn out the light.


18 posted on 10/19/2012 8:47:42 PM PDT by Terry Mross
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To: kristinn
Libyan President disagrees.
19 posted on 10/19/2012 8:48:37 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: kristinn
You're trying too hard, compost.

My current best assessment is that you'd kick the truth to the bottom of a well to help your chosen presidential candidate who just can't quite seem to get his campaign up lately.

You ****ing syphilitic whores.

20 posted on 10/19/2012 8:49:23 PM PDT by Dr.Deth
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To: kristinn
Romney better know this whole topic like the back of his hand before the next debate. He better understand without hesitancy what the facts are and where the misinformation is planted.
21 posted on 10/19/2012 8:50:54 PM PDT by Just mythoughts (Please help Todd Akin defeat Claire and the GOP-e send money!!!!!)
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To: kristinn

Are they really trying to make the CIA out to be a bunch of politically influenced buffoons?

I would expect a grand exodus of these buffoons out the door any day now. Either they are incompetent or they are incompetent liars.


22 posted on 10/19/2012 8:53:33 PM PDT by petitfour
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To: kristinn
"demonstrations in Benghazi"

There were no demonstrations in Benghazi. There were demonstrations in Cairo Egypt. Not Benghazi. Benghazi had no demonstrations.

23 posted on 10/19/2012 8:54:05 PM PDT by GloriaJane (Pro Choice = Pro Death - Pro Life = Pro LIFE!)
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To: kristinn

Did all the German people hate the Jews? I don’t think so. How could the German people ignore the abuse and slaughter of the Jews? Many have tried to blame it on the influence of strict Prussian obedience. I don’t think so. Germany was thought to be the most liberal and progressive nation in the world at that time by many people. Hitler and the National Socialists sold the German people on a Nazi paradise. Yeah, maybe some Jews were getting hurt and killed, but the Nazis were going to have a socialist utopia in Germany. It was for the higher calling. Didn’t I hear that phrase today, “higher calling”? Wasn’t it about Obama? That’s where the US media is today. Yeah, the Democrats lie and steal and have policies that kill hundreds of thousands of people, but they’re answering a higher calling. They’re going to give us paradise here in America.

The media refuse to look in the mirror at themselves. The Washington Post is providing cover for the liars, thieves and killers in the Democrat party. But it’s OK because the Democrats tell them that there’s a few bad things, but they’re really trying to create a paradise. And so the media in Cambodia said that the plastic bags the Khmer Rouge used to suffocate people were just a spiffy new fashion accessory handed out for free by the loving Khmer Rouge. The American press are a bunch of suckers and cowards.


24 posted on 10/19/2012 8:54:49 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: kristinn
"Some precoordination but minimal planning?" As evidenced by the previous incidents going back to April involving IEDs thrown into the compound, the attack on the British convoy, and the last message from Sean Smith about the Libyan guards photographing the compound? And the multiple warnings from Amb. Stevens, including his own freaking diary?

Just d@mn...A shovel ready project is underway by Satan's engineers. Hades is forced to expand its Circle of Traitors. It may take decades but they'll get there eventually.

25 posted on 10/19/2012 8:58:04 PM PDT by rfp1234
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To: kristinn
We have to remember that David Ignatius was a spear-catcher for Clinton during the impeachment wars.

What a tool - the rear end of the Obama human centipede.

26 posted on 10/19/2012 8:58:37 PM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: hinckley buzzard
According to this link: Petraeus

Al Qaeda Took Advantage of Libyan Protest, CIA Chief Says
27 posted on 10/19/2012 8:58:37 PM PDT by Girlene
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To: GloriaJane

This is an opinion piece. Anybody can get an opinion piece wrong.


28 posted on 10/19/2012 8:59:38 PM PDT by GloriaJane (Pro Choice = Pro Death - Pro Life = Pro LIFE!)
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To: kristinn

The lame stream media got their talking points to try to take the heat off Bambi before Monday’s debate.


29 posted on 10/19/2012 9:01:47 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: Castigar
Oh my god they are building a cover up right before our eyes in PLAIN SIGHT and the media is complicit! WOW!

Incredible! Unbelievable! Flabberghasting!
Who in a million years would ever believe the Democrat "mainstream" newsrooms could sink this low!?

/sarc

30 posted on 10/19/2012 9:09:21 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Just mythoughts
How could Romney possibly keep up with all the lies and obfuscations that are getting leaked hour by hour? The Obaminions must be prepping their talking points and selected transcripts for Bob Schieffer right now.

Too late for the election, it will take a new Congress in 2013. Only a Congressional investigation, followed by an independent prosecutor, could ever unravel this pile of crap. Boehner's desk must be flooded by letters from citizens demanding some action.

31 posted on 10/19/2012 9:11:22 PM PDT by rfp1234
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To: Just mythoughts
How could Romney possibly keep up with all the lies and obfuscations that are getting leaked hour by hour? The Obaminions must be prepping their talking points and selected transcripts for Bob Schieffer right now.

Too late for the election, it will take a new Congress in 2013. Only a Congressional investigation, followed by an independent prosecutor, could ever unravel this pile of crap. Boehner's desk must be flooded by letters from citizens demanding some action.

32 posted on 10/19/2012 9:11:22 PM PDT by rfp1234
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To: kristinn
In addition, the statement that they were monitoring and hearing these ROP jihadis watching and discussing the Egyptian protests. Discussion for a period of time = premeditation.

And why would they be monitoring non-jihadis? Answer: The wouldn't. They were trying to find out what happened to the disappeared missiles, and they would have been monitoring jihadi type suspects.

Maybe the White Hut occupants told the CIA what they wanted the report to say? Maybe the CIA was just lying to give cover to what they were really doing?

Whatever they are selling - I am not buying.

33 posted on 10/19/2012 9:15:42 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: rfp1234
It would not surprise me one bit that the Obama camp have polled to find out what the general public knows about Libya. There is a reason why all liberal outlets are flooding the media world with so many threads over the events of September 11, 2012.

Romney gets briefings now. He also can speak to the members of Issa’s committee that held that hearing. He needs to know what he can say and what he cannot say. This is a Clinton style cover-up operation now. Plant/leak all manner of things in every liberal JonStewart media source to muddy the waters. Confusion and deception.

I spoke to a person a few hours ago in WI. This person described a radio show that interview college students, I am totally guessing it was at the University of Madison, and some of those interviewed had no clue about an American Ambassador getting killed in a terrorist attack. My ‘guess’ is that is why Obama did the JonStewart news show to inform the liberal college students.

34 posted on 10/19/2012 9:21:01 PM PDT by Just mythoughts (Please help Todd Akin defeat Claire and the GOP-e send money!!!!!)
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To: GloriaJane
"This is an opinion piece."

And we all know, that opinions are like a$$holes. Everybody has one.

35 posted on 10/19/2012 9:21:28 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: Just mythoughts
Good points, thank you. I sincerely hope that Romney can make a compelling case that this administration is incompetent and the POTUS is an empty chair that cannot protect its diplomats, much less ordinary citizens. But it may all go over the heads of the skulls full of mush.

Regardless of this election's outcome, it's good to see the MSM getting bashed and it must continue. Boycotts would help. I canceled my Comcast cable in early 2008 and don't miss it.

36 posted on 10/19/2012 9:32:12 PM PDT by rfp1234
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To: Just mythoughts
Good points, thank you. I sincerely hope that Romney can make a compelling case that this administration is incompetent and the POTUS is an empty chair that cannot protect its diplomats, much less ordinary citizens. But it may all go over the heads of the skulls full of mush.

Regardless of this election's outcome, it's good to see the MSM getting bashed and it must continue. Boycotts would help. I canceled my Comcast cable in early 2008 and don't miss it.

37 posted on 10/19/2012 9:32:12 PM PDT by rfp1234
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To: Castigar

I agree and wonder just why they think that they can do this and remain anywhere credible! It’s amazing but really I think that they think that the public is so stupid that they can’t follow it. Maybe they think that FOX news reveling the actual facts can be ignored. Strange things going on.

I wonder if these folks expect to be in business in 5 years or are just hoping for a government handout.


38 posted on 10/19/2012 10:07:11 PM PDT by Deagle (quo)
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To: kristinn

CIA is not likely going to lie down for Chicago:

From AP:

The CIA station chief in Libya reported to Washington within 24 hours of last month’s deadly attack on the U.S. Consulate that there was evidence it was carried out by militants, not a spontaneous mob upset about an American-made video ridiculing Islam’s Prophet Muhammad, U.S. officials have told The Associated Press.


39 posted on 10/19/2012 10:08:14 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: kristinn
That's not believable. Witnesses in Cairo deny that the "video" had anything at all to do with the protests there. In spite of the Cairo embassy, lead by Hillbilly Clinton, doing all it could on Twitter to promote that hoax.

Brian Lilley: The MSM is lying about the muslim riots Sept. 15th video report 12:01

Excellent report that debunks "anti-muslim video" scam with interviews on the street in Cairo.

40 posted on 10/19/2012 10:14:04 PM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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WOW...DOUBLING DOWN ON THIS STORY...UNREAL. i want them to explain all the prior attacks...the British pulled out...the Red Cross pulled out. In the testimony of Col Wood...’WE WERE THE LAST FLAG FLYING”. The sad part of all this is that Gen David Petraeus is up to his neck in this.


41 posted on 10/19/2012 10:30:47 PM PDT by basalt
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To: kristinn
individual clusters of extremists who came with heavier weapons, weapons that as you know in -- in the wake of the revolution in Libya are -- are quite common and accessible.

And the reason for that is because the 0bama administration helped create the chaos which allowed extremists to get access to these weapons. Libya was an ally who had supposedly gotten rid of their WMD, and now extremist elements have filled the vacuum created by the US-backed overthrow of Khaddafi. That is the basis on which the 0bama Mideast/Libya policy should be criticized.

I expect Romney to be thoughtful, deliberate, and skillful in his criticism of 0bama's foreign policy, and I also expect him to offer an alternative vision of his own with respect to Mideast policy as well as foreign policy in general. Romney can probably make the best points with respect to his and 0bama's significantly different visions regarding Israel and Iran.

42 posted on 10/19/2012 10:51:01 PM PDT by sargon
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To: basalt

Petraeus should have known better and resigned in protest before becoming part of this charade. I wonder what dirt the thugs have on him.


43 posted on 10/19/2012 11:26:16 PM PDT by rfp1234
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To: kristinn

complete garbage.


44 posted on 10/19/2012 11:37:36 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: hinckley buzzard

Hillary and obama planned a fake kidnapping of the ambassador which would give them cover to exchange the blind sheik for the ambassador. That is why no one was dispatched to help. There was unexpected intervention by Navy Seals in the area and the whole thing went South.

there were no “demonstrations” and printing a bunch of lies in different newspapers will not change the truth.


45 posted on 10/19/2012 11:41:30 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: GodfearingTexan; ntnychik; FARS; devolve; Fred Nerks; little jeremiah
If the cia will paint iranian nukes as an issue of the past in 2007 to prevent bush from having evidence to act, why wouldn’t it be possible they would write talking points to make obama look less pathetic?

The calls for more security were many and all unheeded in the run-up.

In six hours (per Col. David Hunt to Howie Carr) hundreds at the WH Situation Room, the Pentagon, CIA, Counter-Terrorism Center, State Department, and elsewhere watched while no principal of the executive branch, not the president, the Secretary of State, no commander of military or special forces authorized action to save American lives.

Are the dead less dead if one of the hundred fifty "flash mob" with mortars and RPGs had a sign or shouted a slogan?

Had we had some journalists in the Embassy to be drug through the street, raped and murdered, would we be carrying water for the Twelfth Imam from Chicago?


46 posted on 10/19/2012 11:47:02 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Fakistan)
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To: kristinn
Everybody knows now that Romney was right about the Rose Garden transcript.

The WH and MSM have got 3 days to come up with something to make "Romney's fault" before the foreign policy session on Monday.

Thus, these WaPo attempts to pitch it back toward Romney.

47 posted on 10/20/2012 12:00:47 AM PDT by what's up
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To: kristinn

So now the video is — once again — the cause of Benghazi? But didn’t Obama just say in this week’s debate that he *never* said Benghazi had *anything* to do with the video? Candy, get the transcript!


48 posted on 10/20/2012 12:07:43 AM PDT by kevao (Is your ocean any lower than it was four years ago?)
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To: rfp1234
Boehner's desk must be flooded by letters from citizens demanding some action.

And given Boenher's track record as Speaker these past two years, all those letters went straight into the circular file.

49 posted on 10/20/2012 12:12:45 AM PDT by kevao (Is your ocean any lower than it was four years ago?)
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To: kristinn

The CIA has talking points?.

I thought talking points was a political thing.

That’s not even mentioning that I didn’t see a named source.

Get on with your bad selves, Obama shills.


50 posted on 10/20/2012 12:14:43 AM PDT by dixiechick2000 (I can see November from my house! dc2k circa 2010)
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