Skip to comments.Death And Deceit In Benghazi - Did Obama Admin Try to Hide The Truth?
Posted on 10/19/2012 9:37:59 PM PDT by Jeff Head
Fox special, "Death and Deceit in Benghazi," to be re-broadcast at 1AM Eastern Time on Fox.
If you can...watch it.
(Excerpt) Read more at youtube.com ...
Given the total of all the amunition that will destroy Obama, I suspect that there will be a wag the dog kind of thing -- created by Obama -- to cancel the foreign policy debate on Monday. (NOT satire!!!)
Worth watching. Saw the early show.Brett Baier is a real reporter.
ping to bookmark
I have already bookmarked it.
I watched it and it was very hard to watch knowing this could have been prevented.
Praying for God’s Protection over America.
This is an excellent account of what happened. Wait until next week when more is known about gun running from Libya to Al Queda in Syria. That is when the SHTF.
I watched it. I just mentioned it in an email to my brother.
totally agree with yu! Bret Baier is the best reporter covering this. He’s just great in general.
I thought the special was great and at the end they touched on The arms shipment so I’m hoping they’ll do a follow up sequence next week when more info can be gathered on that topic, because after all that arms deal is what all the coverup is about.
Btw, ain’t it crazy that Greg Polkot was able to walk around in Benghazi? He’s a brave guy. Braver than any old FBI agents apparently.
Fox is just running circles around all the other news orgs. This is what real reporting used to be like back in the day.
Thanks. I had been looking for the video at Fox to give the link to a relative.
bookmark for later viewing.
Pray for America. . and for the voting public to 'see the light.'
Just watched this on Youtube and oh MY!!! That is devastating!! God HELP US!!!!!
Pro-al Qaeda group seen behind deadly Benghazi attack CNN, Sept. 13th
Libyans See al Qaeda Hand in Embassy Attack WSJ, Sept. 17th
Al Qaeda, ex-Gitmo detainee involved in consulate attack, intelligence sources say Fox News, Sept. 20th
Benghazi: A Sea of Al-Qaeda Flags NRO, November 5, 2011
I agree! If I could only watch one TV show per day, it would be Bret Baier's "Special Report" at 6pm ET. It is not to be missed...
Also don't miss Bret's online show (including the panel) at 7pm on most Wednesdays, just after "Special Report" signs off the air:
Bret (and Greg Palkot reporting from the burned-out Consulate in Benghazi) did an excellent job in "Death and Deceit in Benghazi" tonight.
Thank you for this thread Jeff Head!
I felt he didn’t push the right angle. Early on he brings out that State and others were watching IN REAL TIME.....and leaves it there. Col. Hunt has said repeatedly that this was viewed by many, including the WH situation room, but Bret never presses this point.
I found it good as far as the timeline of the reduction of security, the attack and the public statements, but disappointing as to the exposure of the administration’s reaction, or lack thereof, to the events as they happened.
Your quite welcome. Hope it can bring you up to date for the most part.
Why was it necessary for her to make this statement? Who would even question that she or Obama would have anything to do with making the video?
Obama said on Letterman the film was made by somebody that lives here, sort of a shadowy character and we denounced it and the US government had nothing to do with it. Is the film maker even an American citizen?
Why all the need to repeatedly promote and advertise this video? Yes, I know they do not want to discuss their deliberate neglect, but why would anyone think they president and secretary of state had anything to do with that film?
apparently the lurid stuff being passed around about Ambassador Stevens being raped was just nonsense.
glad that some semblance of truth on his death is finally
A Libyan emergency room doctor who treated Stevens said Libyan security guards brought him to the hospital at 1 a.m., his lips black and his body reeking of smoke.
He was officially pronounced dead at 1:45 a.m. from smoke inhalation and carbon monoxide poisoning, but the doctor who tried to revive him, Ziad Bouzaid, 31, said Stevens was dead on arrival. Bouzaid said the body bore no other signs of injury.
That all stemmed from one early report from the Libyan street the day after the attack. It never had much credibility.
And consider the fact that on Youtube there are 1000s if not hundreds of 1000s of anti-islamic movies that could be considered a million times more offensive and they’ve been up for years. And all of a sudden this one particular video is singled out? The fact is it was all an excuse by the Islamo Nazis and the Islamo Marxist in the WH.
These people speak in a parsed language... remember 'depending on the meaning of the word is'? So why the continued and repeated need to disassociate themselves specifically from having any part in making that video? Nobody accused them of having any thing to do with the film. It is beyond bizarre to make themselves part of the response to the video, deny a terrorist attack, blame a video that they specifically had no part in making.
Something I picked up on and had missed during the last debate (although I am sure it was discussed here) was Barack telling Candy to "get the transcript"!
Just wow. Talk about collaboration. Makes it very clear she knew/he knew this would be discussed and she was to "cover his back"
Producer Of Anti-Islam Film Was Fed Snitch
L.A. man began cooperating after 2009 fraud bust
Interesting that Nakoula's websites track back to connections with 0bama.
Interesting that Nakoula's partner in the film was a palestinian Muslim with terrorist connections who was also watched by the Feds for three decades but never arrested and frequently bailed out by the Feds.
Nikoula and Eiad may have made the film.
Someone else has been handling distribution and promotions.
You have done an excellent job of summing up the beyond bizarre circus Obama and Hillary put in motion. I have not been able to figure out who exactly they are talking to. But there is a reason why these two repeatedly told US and the world they had nothing to do with the making of that video.
There is a reason for that and it’s a complete mystery. Why did they feel the need to work so hard to distance themselves from the idea that the U.S. gov (obviously them specifically) had something to do with making the “video?” As you ask, “who are they trying to convince?” Not the American people that would be too weird. I can’t see why the Arab Street, as they call it, would think it either and would the muzzies give a rat’s patoot if they did think so?
What’s the chance that the Punk will return for an interview with Bret Baier soon? How about ever? LOL Bob
Bump for later read.
Well, judging by the photographs of his body being paraded triumphantly along the street while the Libyans snapped cell phone photos of it, I’d say the “no other injuries” part is a lie.
Maybe the other injuries didn’t kill him, but he clearly has scrapes and bleeding all over him.
I suspect that what happened is that the Libyans dragged him out, hauled him around and possibly attempted to sodomize him (probably with a stick or some object) to express disrespect, or at any rate abused his body if he was already dead, and then as they were jubilantly parading him along the street, some armed party arrived with a car and got his body away from them and brought him to the hospital.
Even if he had been alive when they dragged him through that opening in the wall, he was clearly dead in the later photographs (where some of the Libyans can be seen hopping up and down and grabbing their crotches in a gesture of contempt). And since he was dead, he was no longer of any use to them, so when somebody on our side appeared, they dumped his body and it was taken to the hospital.
In my opinion, that would account for the initial confusion over how he was brought to the hospital and the victory-lap photos that we have seen.
Pray for America. Pray for His protection over our election.
I saw the first broadcast last night, too. My only criticism is of the compound piece that Jeff (Palcott?) walked us through. They went too fast through many movements and actions throughout their timeline. I’d have slowed that down a bit or found some other way to help people keep the details together. I’ll have to watch it a few times, because the actual defense of compound and murders timeline is an important understanding.
The bottom line is that it lasted long enough that one wonders if a readiness team from the military couldn’t have reached there if someone watching “real time” at a higher level had given the order to save those guys’ lives.
Charlene Lamb admits to watching real time, and if she had the authority to send immediate relief and didn’t do so immediately, since she already knew Stevens was begging for security, then she should be legally charged with gross dereliction or drummed out of service at a minimum. If she did pass it up the chain, and THEY didn’t send immediate aid, then they need to be tried for dereliction.
It DOES sound stupid for them to repeatedly declare that the government had nothing to do with the video. But there’s clearly some kind of method to their madness.
Your question of “who are they trying to convince”...ie WHO are they aiming for when they utter this denial, is on target, and in your reasonings you seem to discount every possibility and so, are left with a mystery.
I’m thinking it might be simply a generalized denial...what does the world think of us (even though “the world” isn’t likely to think they were complicit in the video), what is in the media that we need to answer, etc. In other words, general PR. But that has to be tied in with the fact that they are claiming - and this is key - they are CLAIMING that the Arab street is aflame BECAUSE of the video. Therefore as a government (engaged in that fictitious claim about the video) they think it’s pro forma, it’s expected of them to deny the U.S. government had anything to do with it.
I put it in the same category as their tv ads on arab media apologizing about the video. And condemning...don’t ever forget...CONDEMNING the video. And sympathizing with the poor little Muslims who have their feelings hurt by the video. All their actions are part of the same piece. I doubt they thought they were talking to anyone in particular when they denied complicity with the video.
It was part of their phony “narrative” that they wanted to get out there, for one and all.
It was that apologetic attitude they took, that caused Mitt Romney to come out with his statement...because the State Dept. people in Cairo issued a very apologetic statement in response to the violence on our embassy there, soon to be followed by Steven’s death in Benghazi from a military assault.
And in all of it, the video was being held culpable. Which is hogwash.
But it IS being used for propaganda and to whip crowds up after mosque worship services. And, ayman al zawahiri has issued a call for all Muslims to attack America everywhere in revenge for that video. That is true, he has done that.
But it’s the tail wagging the dog, at this point.
I would love to know the details of the elevation of that childish, silly video from total obscurity to national security status.
Who in the administration, state, or intelligence first knew about the video? then who elevated it?
The video remains a puzzle. Arresting the artist in a police sweep also seems odd given we now know it was not the precipitating cause of the attack.
Also, General Dempsey’s publicized call to Pastor Jones in Florida really sets my alarms off, given that he, too, would have known there was no connection to the video.
They better retire him soon if they lose this election, because he’ll be ordered to appear and explain.
In the case of Susan Rice the UN ambassador and all her media appearances about the video...I saw something and can’t recall where...that in her defense it’s being claimed an initial intel report said something about the video. Not any later ones, but maybe the very first one, but don’t know who the intel was from. And that Susan Rice is going to always claim that she was going by THAT single reference in a single early report. The others can claim that as well.
General Dempsey had no business intruding upon that area...it’s not his area and he should know it.
In any investigation, even if necessary to have private sessions not public, at first, to get at the truth, investigators need to focus on demanding that the supposed initial intel report that did mention the video, be offered up as PROOF that Susan Rice, Hillary, Dempsey, Obama, Jay Carney etc have any defense for claiming they went on early intel when they started blabbing.
As for the video itself, apparently it was on the internet but so were many many others that were anti Islam available on the net. This one was so dumb and obscure it had gotten very little attention. The attention our government gave it could well have been intentional and they could well have known the maker of it was on federal parole for past crimes and could be isolated as “the cause” and could be arrested for his parole violations, thereby making it look to the world that we had cracked down on the video. Appeasement to radical Muslims, IOW.
When you say something is “now known”, that depends on the meaning of “is”, I think.
Bump for later.
Trick question. Thanks Jeff Head.
Do you believe that Lamb was the ONLY one watching?
Do you believe that there weren't many more offices, including the WH situation room that were also watching at the same time?
Why Bret, and others here, do not push this point is laughable were it not so serious. The administration PANICKED when its little October Surprise took a bad turn. Just as J F'n Kerry sat speechless for 45 minutes on 9/11/01, the administration FROZE as it watched their little plan go down the tubes.
It is inconceivable to me that someone called a “commander”, as in commander in chief, does not have in place a standard procedure that requires serious situations to be immediately reported to him, the CJCS, the NCA, and whatever situation room he maintains.
It’s like assuming that a general in the field allows his brigade and battalion commanders to undergo an attack and not report it up the chain to him, much less get him personally messaged, radioed, called, etc.
A general would never dream of allowing the standard operating procedure to be: “Get in touch with me when you damn well feel like it.”
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