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Death And Deceit In Benghazi - Did Obama Admin Try to Hide The Truth?
YouTube/Fox News ^ | Oct 19, 2012

Posted on 10/19/2012 9:37:59 PM PDT by Jeff Head

Fox special, "Death and Deceit in Benghazi," to be re-broadcast at 1AM Eastern Time on Fox.

If you can...watch it.

(Excerpt) Read more at youtube.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 9112012; ambassadorstevens; benghazi; benghazianalysis; benghaziattack; benghazicoverup; benghazigate; bretbaier; brettbaier; deathanddeceit; deathinbenghazi; impeachnow; libya; nobama; waronterror
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Saw this in the earlier broadcast. If you want to learn a lot about what happened to Ambassador Stevens...watch this special.
1 posted on 10/19/2012 9:38:07 PM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: Jeff Head
For those that might find it difficult to view at Fox News, try this Utube full video. Approx. 43 minutes as advertised.
Here.
2 posted on 10/19/2012 9:44:43 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned.)
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To: Jeff Head
I saw it, it is powerful.

Given the total of all the amunition that will destroy Obama, I suspect that there will be a wag the dog kind of thing -- created by Obama -- to cancel the foreign policy debate on Monday. (NOT satire!!!)

3 posted on 10/19/2012 9:45:04 PM PDT by Jackson Brown
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To: Jeff Head

Worth watching. Saw the early show.Brett Baier is a real reporter.


4 posted on 10/19/2012 9:45:08 PM PDT by o-n-money
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To: Marine_Uncle

ping to bookmark


5 posted on 10/19/2012 9:45:50 PM PDT by pollywog ("O Thou who changest not, abide with me.".......)
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To: pollywog

I have already bookmarked it.


6 posted on 10/19/2012 9:49:45 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned.)
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To: Jeff Head

I watched it and it was very hard to watch knowing this could have been prevented.


7 posted on 10/19/2012 9:49:59 PM PDT by sheikdetailfeather (Yuri Bezmenov (KGB Defector) - "Kick The Communists Out of Your Govt. & Don't Accept Their Goodies.")
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To: Jackson Brown

Praying for God’s Protection over America.


8 posted on 10/19/2012 9:50:37 PM PDT by pollywog ("O Thou who changest not, abide with me.".......)
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To: Jeff Head

This is an excellent account of what happened. Wait until next week when more is known about gun running from Libya to Al Queda in Syria. That is when the SHTF.


9 posted on 10/19/2012 9:50:46 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA (The truth hurts)
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To: Jeff Head

I watched it. I just mentioned it in an email to my brother.


11 posted on 10/19/2012 9:58:19 PM PDT by Daaave ("The ship will self-destruct in t-minus, ten minutes.")
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To: o-n-money

totally agree with yu! Bret Baier is the best reporter covering this. He’s just great in general.

I thought the special was great and at the end they touched on The arms shipment so I’m hoping they’ll do a follow up sequence next week when more info can be gathered on that topic, because after all that arms deal is what all the coverup is about.

Btw, ain’t it crazy that Greg Polkot was able to walk around in Benghazi? He’s a brave guy. Braver than any old FBI agents apparently.

Fox is just running circles around all the other news orgs. This is what real reporting used to be like back in the day.


12 posted on 10/19/2012 10:02:09 PM PDT by uncitizen (Religion of Peace my hind end)
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To: Marine_Uncle

Thanks. I had been looking for the video at Fox to give the link to a relative.


13 posted on 10/19/2012 10:03:41 PM PDT by Daaave ("The ship will self-destruct in t-minus, ten minutes.")
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To: Jeff Head

BTTT


14 posted on 10/19/2012 10:04:12 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (The pundits have forgotten the 2010 elections.)
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To: Spunky

bookmark for later viewing.


15 posted on 10/19/2012 10:11:23 PM PDT by Spunky (Those)
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To: Jeff Head

Worth watching


16 posted on 10/19/2012 10:19:33 PM PDT by Brandonmark (2012: Our Hope IS Change!)
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To: Jeff Head
If Romney weaves this right, it should be all over Monday night. . Obama has absolutely no defense. . and then there's the coverup. . the world is a dangerous place.

Pray for America. . and for the voting public to 'see the light.'

17 posted on 10/19/2012 10:30:56 PM PDT by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: Jeff Head

Just watched this on Youtube and oh MY!!! That is devastating!! God HELP US!!!!!


18 posted on 10/19/2012 10:34:44 PM PDT by pollywog ("O Thou who changest not, abide with me.".......)
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To: Jeff Head
Pro-al Qaeda group seen behind deadly Benghazi attack CNN, Sept. 13th

Libyans See al Qaeda Hand in Embassy Attack WSJ, Sept. 17th

The Motive and the Means: Did al-Qaeda Stage the Benghazi Attack? Time, Oct. 2nd

Al Qaeda, ex-Gitmo detainee involved in consulate attack, intelligence sources say Fox News, Sept. 20th

Benghazi: A Sea of Al-Qaeda Flags NRO, November 5, 2011


19 posted on 10/19/2012 10:37:18 PM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: uncitizen; Jeff Head
Bret Baier is the best reporter covering this. He’s just great in general.

I agree! If I could only watch one TV show per day, it would be Bret Baier's "Special Report" at 6pm ET. It is not to be missed...

Also don't miss Bret's online show (including the panel) at 7pm on most Wednesdays, just after "Special Report" signs off the air:

http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/special-report-bret-baier/live-event

Bret (and Greg Palkot reporting from the burned-out Consulate in Benghazi) did an excellent job in "Death and Deceit in Benghazi" tonight.

Thank you for this thread Jeff Head!

20 posted on 10/19/2012 10:39:16 PM PDT by nutmeg (I'm with Sarah Palin and Ted Cruz: Romney / Ryan 2012)
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To: Jeff Head

I felt he didn’t push the right angle. Early on he brings out that State and others were watching IN REAL TIME.....and leaves it there. Col. Hunt has said repeatedly that this was viewed by many, including the WH situation room, but Bret never presses this point.
I found it good as far as the timeline of the reduction of security, the attack and the public statements, but disappointing as to the exposure of the administration’s reaction, or lack thereof, to the events as they happened.


21 posted on 10/19/2012 10:48:20 PM PDT by Roccus
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To: Daaave

Your quite welcome. Hope it can bring you up to date for the most part.


22 posted on 10/19/2012 10:48:53 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned.)
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To: Jeff Head
Why does Hillary say “Let me state very clearly, and I hope it is obvious, that the United States government had absolutely nothing to do with this video,” Clinton said at a press conference in Washington.

Why was it necessary for her to make this statement? Who would even question that she or Obama would have anything to do with making the video?

Obama said on Letterman the film was made by somebody that lives here, sort of a shadowy character and we denounced it and the US government had nothing to do with it. Is the film maker even an American citizen?

Why all the need to repeatedly promote and advertise this video? Yes, I know they do not want to discuss their deliberate neglect, but why would anyone think they president and secretary of state had anything to do with that film?

23 posted on 10/19/2012 10:55:26 PM PDT by Just mythoughts (Please help Todd Akin defeat Claire and the GOP-e send money!!!!!)
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To: Jeff Head

apparently the lurid stuff being passed around about Ambassador Stevens being raped was just nonsense.

glad that some semblance of truth on his death is finally
being released..


24 posted on 10/19/2012 11:04:50 PM PDT by RitchieAprile (Gentle but bold...)
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To: Just mythoughts
Hillbilly repeated that publically several times. 0bama repeated that same bizarre denial at the UN. Watch from 1:17 - 1:34 on this video.

U.S. President Speaks to U.N. About YouTube Video

25 posted on 10/19/2012 11:15:42 PM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: RitchieAprile
From McClatchy:

A Libyan emergency room doctor who treated Stevens said Libyan security guards brought him to the hospital at 1 a.m., his lips black and his body reeking of smoke.

He was officially pronounced dead at 1:45 a.m. from smoke inhalation and carbon monoxide poisoning, but the doctor who tried to revive him, Ziad Bouzaid, 31, said Stevens was dead on arrival. Bouzaid said the body bore no other signs of injury.

http://www.star-telegram.com/2012/09/13/4256936/no-protest-before-benghazi-attack.html

26 posted on 10/19/2012 11:16:31 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: RitchieAprile

That all stemmed from one early report from the Libyan street the day after the attack. It never had much credibility.


27 posted on 10/19/2012 11:21:00 PM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: TigersEye
It makes no sense whatsoever, since nobody accused them of having any part of the making of that video. Absolving themselves was their first and only priority, next was blaming an offensive video that nobody ever heard/saw.
28 posted on 10/19/2012 11:28:17 PM PDT by Just mythoughts (Please help Todd Akin defeat Claire and the GOP-e send money!!!!!)
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To: Just mythoughts

And consider the fact that on Youtube there are 1000s if not hundreds of 1000s of anti-islamic movies that could be considered a million times more offensive and they’ve been up for years. And all of a sudden this one particular video is singled out? The fact is it was all an excuse by the Islamo Nazis and the Islamo Marxist in the WH.


29 posted on 10/19/2012 11:29:00 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Someday our schools we will teach the difference between "lose" and "loose")
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And consider the fact that on Youtube there are 1000s if not hundreds of 1000s of anti-islamic movies that could be considered a million times more offensive and they’ve been up for years. And all of a sudden this one particular video is singled out? The fact is it was all an excuse by the Islamo Nazis and the Islamo Marxist in the WH.

These people speak in a parsed language... remember 'depending on the meaning of the word is'? So why the continued and repeated need to disassociate themselves specifically from having any part in making that video? Nobody accused them of having any thing to do with the film. It is beyond bizarre to make themselves part of the response to the video, deny a terrorist attack, blame a video that they specifically had no part in making.

30 posted on 10/19/2012 11:36:47 PM PDT by Just mythoughts (Please help Todd Akin defeat Claire and the GOP-e send money!!!!!)
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To: Just mythoughts
I know. It struck me as odd the first time I heard it then it was repeated numerous times with clock-like precision in each speech. Add to that 0bama's statements on Letterman about the film maker being a "shadowy character." More accurately he was a gov snitch on probation who had been given a pass on his check kiting rap. His partner in the film was in even deeper with the Feds.


31 posted on 10/19/2012 11:42:29 PM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: Marine_Uncle
Thanks for the link. I just finished watching it and quite frankly it is damning evidence of just one more failure of this administration.

Something I picked up on and had missed during the last debate (although I am sure it was discussed here) was Barack telling Candy to "get the transcript"!

Just wow. Talk about collaboration. Makes it very clear she knew/he knew this would be discussed and she was to "cover his back"

32 posted on 10/19/2012 11:47:37 PM PDT by gettinolder (Smashed lips save ships.)
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To: Just mythoughts
Interesting that Nakoula the film maker is also a FedMob stooge.

Producer Of Anti-Islam Film Was Fed Snitch
L.A. man began cooperating after 2009 fraud bust

Interesting that Nakoula's websites track back to connections with 0bama.

Proof Positive - In My Opinion (who created Innocence of Muslims)(Obama)

Interesting that Nakoula's partner in the film was a palestinian Muslim with terrorist connections who was also watched by the Feds for three decades but never arrested and frequently bailed out by the Feds.

Why is the Coptic Christian filmmaker partners in crime with Coptic Christian hater?

Innocence of Muslims made by Terrorists

Nikoula and Eiad may have made the film.
Someone else has been handling distribution and promotions.

33 posted on 10/19/2012 11:53:58 PM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: TigersEye
I know. It struck me as odd the first time I heard it then it was repeated numerous times with clock-like precision in each speech. Add to that 0bama's statements on Letterman about the film maker being a "shadowy character." More accurately he was a gov snitch on probation who had been given a pass on his check kiting rap. His partner in the film was in even deeper with the Feds.

You have done an excellent job of summing up the beyond bizarre circus Obama and Hillary put in motion. I have not been able to figure out who exactly they are talking to. But there is a reason why these two repeatedly told US and the world they had nothing to do with the making of that video.

34 posted on 10/20/2012 12:05:28 AM PDT by Just mythoughts (Please help Todd Akin defeat Claire and the GOP-e send money!!!!!)
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To: Just mythoughts

There is a reason for that and it’s a complete mystery. Why did they feel the need to work so hard to distance themselves from the idea that the U.S. gov (obviously them specifically) had something to do with making the “video?” As you ask, “who are they trying to convince?” Not the American people that would be too weird. I can’t see why the Arab Street, as they call it, would think it either and would the muzzies give a rat’s patoot if they did think so?


35 posted on 10/20/2012 12:18:47 AM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: uncitizen

What’s the chance that the Punk will return for an interview with Bret Baier soon? How about ever? LOL Bob


36 posted on 10/20/2012 12:28:58 AM PDT by alstewartfan ("I'm a graduate of rock&roll, Class of '58!" Al Stewart)
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To: Jeff Head

Thanks, Jeff!

Bump for later read.


37 posted on 10/20/2012 12:52:11 AM PDT by meyer (It's 1860 all over again - the taxpayer is the new "N" word)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Well, judging by the photographs of his body being paraded triumphantly along the street while the Libyans snapped cell phone photos of it, I’d say the “no other injuries” part is a lie.

Maybe the other injuries didn’t kill him, but he clearly has scrapes and bleeding all over him.

I suspect that what happened is that the Libyans dragged him out, hauled him around and possibly attempted to sodomize him (probably with a stick or some object) to express disrespect, or at any rate abused his body if he was already dead, and then as they were jubilantly parading him along the street, some armed party arrived with a car and got his body away from them and brought him to the hospital.

Even if he had been alive when they dragged him through that opening in the wall, he was clearly dead in the later photographs (where some of the Libyans can be seen hopping up and down and grabbing their crotches in a gesture of contempt). And since he was dead, he was no longer of any use to them, so when somebody on our side appeared, they dumped his body and it was taken to the hospital.

In my opinion, that would account for the initial confusion over how he was brought to the hospital and the victory-lap photos that we have seen.


38 posted on 10/20/2012 2:46:13 AM PDT by livius
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To: Jeff Head
Mark for later.

Pray for America. Pray for His protection over our election.

39 posted on 10/20/2012 4:12:05 AM PDT by Jane Long (Soli Deo Gloria!)
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To: PuzzledInTX

bfl


40 posted on 10/20/2012 4:49:19 AM PDT by PuzzledInTX
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To: Jeff Head

Thanks!


41 posted on 10/20/2012 4:52:39 AM PDT by GonzoII (Quia tu es, Deus, fortitudo mea...Quare tristis es anima mea?)
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To: Jeff Head

I saw the first broadcast last night, too. My only criticism is of the compound piece that Jeff (Palcott?) walked us through. They went too fast through many movements and actions throughout their timeline. I’d have slowed that down a bit or found some other way to help people keep the details together. I’ll have to watch it a few times, because the actual defense of compound and murders timeline is an important understanding.

The bottom line is that it lasted long enough that one wonders if a readiness team from the military couldn’t have reached there if someone watching “real time” at a higher level had given the order to save those guys’ lives.

Charlene Lamb admits to watching real time, and if she had the authority to send immediate relief and didn’t do so immediately, since she already knew Stevens was begging for security, then she should be legally charged with gross dereliction or drummed out of service at a minimum. If she did pass it up the chain, and THEY didn’t send immediate aid, then they need to be tried for dereliction.


42 posted on 10/20/2012 4:52:56 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: TigersEye; Just mythoughts

It DOES sound stupid for them to repeatedly declare that the government had nothing to do with the video. But there’s clearly some kind of method to their madness.

Your question of “who are they trying to convince”...ie WHO are they aiming for when they utter this denial, is on target, and in your reasonings you seem to discount every possibility and so, are left with a mystery.

I’m thinking it might be simply a generalized denial...what does the world think of us (even though “the world” isn’t likely to think they were complicit in the video), what is in the media that we need to answer, etc. In other words, general PR. But that has to be tied in with the fact that they are claiming - and this is key - they are CLAIMING that the Arab street is aflame BECAUSE of the video. Therefore as a government (engaged in that fictitious claim about the video) they think it’s pro forma, it’s expected of them to deny the U.S. government had anything to do with it.

I put it in the same category as their tv ads on arab media apologizing about the video. And condemning...don’t ever forget...CONDEMNING the video. And sympathizing with the poor little Muslims who have their feelings hurt by the video. All their actions are part of the same piece. I doubt they thought they were talking to anyone in particular when they denied complicity with the video.

It was part of their phony “narrative” that they wanted to get out there, for one and all.

It was that apologetic attitude they took, that caused Mitt Romney to come out with his statement...because the State Dept. people in Cairo issued a very apologetic statement in response to the violence on our embassy there, soon to be followed by Steven’s death in Benghazi from a military assault.

And in all of it, the video was being held culpable. Which is hogwash.

But it IS being used for propaganda and to whip crowds up after mosque worship services. And, ayman al zawahiri has issued a call for all Muslims to attack America everywhere in revenge for that video. That is true, he has done that.

But it’s the tail wagging the dog, at this point.


43 posted on 10/20/2012 5:59:03 AM PDT by txrangerette ("HOLD TO THE TRUTH...SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR." - Glenn Beck)
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To: xzins

Greg Palcott.


44 posted on 10/20/2012 6:01:22 AM PDT by txrangerette ("HOLD TO THE TRUTH...SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR." - Glenn Beck)
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To: txrangerette

I would love to know the details of the elevation of that childish, silly video from total obscurity to national security status.

Who in the administration, state, or intelligence first knew about the video? then who elevated it?

The video remains a puzzle. Arresting the artist in a police sweep also seems odd given we now know it was not the precipitating cause of the attack.

Also, General Dempsey’s publicized call to Pastor Jones in Florida really sets my alarms off, given that he, too, would have known there was no connection to the video.

They better retire him soon if they lose this election, because he’ll be ordered to appear and explain.


45 posted on 10/20/2012 6:24:11 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: xzins

In the case of Susan Rice the UN ambassador and all her media appearances about the video...I saw something and can’t recall where...that in her defense it’s being claimed an initial intel report said something about the video. Not any later ones, but maybe the very first one, but don’t know who the intel was from. And that Susan Rice is going to always claim that she was going by THAT single reference in a single early report. The others can claim that as well.

General Dempsey had no business intruding upon that area...it’s not his area and he should know it.

In any investigation, even if necessary to have private sessions not public, at first, to get at the truth, investigators need to focus on demanding that the supposed initial intel report that did mention the video, be offered up as PROOF that Susan Rice, Hillary, Dempsey, Obama, Jay Carney etc have any defense for claiming they went on early intel when they started blabbing.

As for the video itself, apparently it was on the internet but so were many many others that were anti Islam available on the net. This one was so dumb and obscure it had gotten very little attention. The attention our government gave it could well have been intentional and they could well have known the maker of it was on federal parole for past crimes and could be isolated as “the cause” and could be arrested for his parole violations, thereby making it look to the world that we had cracked down on the video. Appeasement to radical Muslims, IOW.

When you say something is “now known”, that depends on the meaning of “is”, I think.


46 posted on 10/20/2012 6:48:34 AM PDT by txrangerette ("HOLD TO THE TRUTH...SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR." - Glenn Beck)
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To: Jeff Head

Bump for later.


47 posted on 10/20/2012 6:55:35 AM PDT by Amntn
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Trick question. Thanks Jeff Head.


48 posted on 10/20/2012 7:57:41 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: xzins
Charlene Lamb admits to watching real time, and if she had the authority to send immediate relief and didn’t do so immediately, since she already knew Stevens was begging for security, then she should be legally charged with gross dereliction or drummed out of service at a minimum. If she did pass it up the chain, and THEY didn’t send immediate aid, then they need to be tried for dereliction.

Do you believe that Lamb was the ONLY one watching?
Do you believe that there weren't many more offices, including the WH situation room that were also watching at the same time?

Why Bret, and others here, do not push this point is laughable were it not so serious. The administration PANICKED when its little October Surprise took a bad turn. Just as J F'n Kerry sat speechless for 45 minutes on 9/11/01, the administration FROZE as it watched their little plan go down the tubes.

49 posted on 10/20/2012 8:09:00 AM PDT by Roccus
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To: Roccus

It is inconceivable to me that someone called a “commander”, as in commander in chief, does not have in place a standard procedure that requires serious situations to be immediately reported to him, the CJCS, the NCA, and whatever situation room he maintains.

It’s like assuming that a general in the field allows his brigade and battalion commanders to undergo an attack and not report it up the chain to him, much less get him personally messaged, radioed, called, etc.

A general would never dream of allowing the standard operating procedure to be: “Get in touch with me when you damn well feel like it.”


50 posted on 10/20/2012 8:18:36 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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