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Incommunicado (Regime blocks Military from testifying on Benghazi)
WFB ^ | October 19, 2012 | Bill Gertz

Posted on 10/20/2012 7:32:41 AM PDT by Snuph

House Armed Services chairman blocked from getting answers from senior military about threat warnings prior to Benghazi consulate attack...

The chairman of the House Armed Services Committee is demanding answers from four senior United States military officers about whether there was advance warning of terrorist threats and the need for greater security prior to last month’s terrorist attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi.

However, an aide to the chairman, Rep. Howard “Buck” McKeon, (R., Calif.), said the office of secretary of defense Leon Panetta blocked the senior officers from providing the answers last night.

“The chairman is disappointed that the administration won’t respond to this basic request for information,” the aide said.

“It is nearly unprecedented that the office of the secretary of defense would prohibit a member of the uniformed military from answering direct questions posed by the chairman of the House Armed Services Committee.”

Pentagon spokesman George Little told the Free Beacon: “We received the letters last night and are working expeditiously to provide a response.”

The chairman’s letters are dated Thursday. They were sent to Gen. Carter F. Ham, commander of the U.S. Africa Command, which is responsible for military activities in Africa; Adm. William H. McRaven, commander of the U.S. Special Operations Command; Vice Adm. Kurt W. Tidd, director for operations at the Pentagon’s Joint Staff; and Lt. Gen. Michael T. Flynn, director of the Defense Intelligence Agency.

McKeon asked the officers to provide answers to questions about security threats by the close of business Friday.

(Excerpt) Read more at freebeacon.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: duplicate

1 posted on 10/20/2012 7:32:48 AM PDT by Snuph
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To: Snuph

This needs to be shouted from the rooftops. Maybe then the public will pay attention.


2 posted on 10/20/2012 7:36:49 AM PDT by originalbuckeye
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To: originalbuckeye

Agree


3 posted on 10/20/2012 7:38:23 AM PDT by dubyajam ("Life is Hard ... It's Even Harder When you're Stupid" --- John Wayne)
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To: Snuph
COVERUP!
4 posted on 10/20/2012 7:39:32 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty ("Get that evil, foreign, muslim, usurping, gay commie bastard out of MY White House!" FUBO!)
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To: Snuph

Ollie North HAD to testify. This regime has got to be made accountable. A prison in Illinois awaits the whole lot of them.


5 posted on 10/20/2012 7:39:46 AM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Snuph

Regime to military: Cover our asses — oh, and don’t even think about voting.

TREASONOUS BASSTURDS!


6 posted on 10/20/2012 7:42:24 AM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1)
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To: Snuph
Incommunicado
7 posted on 10/20/2012 7:42:29 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: Snuph

Leon Panetta is the second-worst Cabinet Secretary ever, behind only Hillary Clinton; his actions/inaction in this matter are nothing less than ‘high crimes and misdemeanors.’


8 posted on 10/20/2012 7:45:17 AM PDT by delcopatriot
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To: Snuph

This is an alarming, although not entirely unexpected, development. The regime is clearly stonewalling and delaying discussion on matters of security that impact our diplomatic missions abroad. This is very serious stuff.

Mitt needs to seize on this and make the American people aware of what’s going on.


9 posted on 10/20/2012 7:46:16 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: The Sons of Liberty

Paging Matt Drudge. Please post this story Matt.


10 posted on 10/20/2012 7:48:01 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: Snuph

Then arrest Leon Panetta immediately.


11 posted on 10/20/2012 7:52:05 AM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Snuph

12 posted on 10/20/2012 7:54:42 AM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears (John Roberts did more to endanger the lives of Americans than all 9/11 hijackers combined.)
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To: Snuph

Competent Romney ads about this would have Romney ahead of Barry by 10 points. Alas, Romney is too weak to do so.


13 posted on 10/20/2012 8:04:45 AM PDT by pabianice (washington, dc ..)
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To: Snuph
...secretary of defense Leon Panetta blocked the senior officers from providing the answers

************

There's no cover-up here....
....nothing to see...
nothing to see at all....

No one to talk to.....
Move along folks... move along...

[SARCASM = OFF]

14 posted on 10/20/2012 8:05:10 AM PDT by Wings-n-Wind (The main things are the plain things!)
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears

Good post. Humorous yet captures the absurd, if not surreal, political environment we’re in. We simply must turn the ship of state around in November and get this country back on the right course.


15 posted on 10/20/2012 8:06:54 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: Nachum

PING!


16 posted on 10/20/2012 8:07:35 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Snuph

So, congress gets a court order for the generals to testify. Panetta ignores it. What can be done? Who is going to force them to testify? I guess they can be found in contempt like Holder.

I pray Romney gets in then prosecutes everyone of these bastards for treason. They sacrificed four human lives.

If I was in the military or served in a civilian position I’d resign immediately. If Panetta and obama can’t be arrested, neither can anyone else if they stick together.


17 posted on 10/20/2012 8:09:15 AM PDT by Terry Mross
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To: pabianice

Competent Romney ads about this would have Romney ahead of Barry by 10 points.
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A good suggestion but you may be overstating the impact. The country has been dumbed down and “entitleized” to the point where I’m not sure a 10 point gap is possible.


18 posted on 10/20/2012 8:11:44 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: Snuph; Nachum; Cindy; G8 Diplomat; AdmSmith; Dog; nuconvert; Straight Vermonter; dervish; ...

We have an ongoing covert op in Libya that has been partially exposed by the Benghazi attack.

Nothing more is going to be said by our intelligence services to anyone.

Romney has been briefed and neither campaigns are going to add to the discussion.

The Monday night debate will only lightly discuss Libya and only within the context of our overall Mid-east policy.

All of us need to drop this story line. If you see the national media going silent, it is not due to partisan politics.

As much as anyone I want to see the Obama administration tagged for the security failures in Libya but that can’t be done right now and not for months.


19 posted on 10/20/2012 8:16:23 AM PDT by gandalftb (The art of diplomacy says "nice doggie", until you find a bigger rock.)
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To: gandalftb

Would you mind giving us a source for your claim?

The op isn’t covert anymore because you know about it from somewhere.


20 posted on 10/20/2012 8:22:19 AM PDT by dforest
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To: gandalftb

All of us need to drop this story line. If you see the national media going silent, it is not due to partisan politics.
*******
You can’t be serious — on either point. These statements are so misguided its stunning.


21 posted on 10/20/2012 8:45:23 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: dforest

It’s not a claim. Those who have followed my posts over the years know that. I post sources when I can and I am the last person to ask that a story be quashed.

There have been a number of hints in the media about this problem and as I posted, there will be a shift away from this story.


22 posted on 10/20/2012 8:56:39 AM PDT by gandalftb (The art of diplomacy says "nice doggie", until you find a bigger rock.)
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To: gandalftb

So we should just relax in our man pads and be quiet?


23 posted on 10/20/2012 9:01:24 AM PDT by kanawa
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To: Starboard

I am quite serious and have struggled over whether to out this entire mess that Obama created due to his incompetence and islamist leanings.

Additionally, Libya is anarchy and chaos, our good intentions have been degraded because we could not and can not maintain control over events there.


24 posted on 10/20/2012 9:02:58 AM PDT by gandalftb (The art of diplomacy says "nice doggie", until you find a bigger rock.)
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To: kanawa

“So we should just relax in our man pads and be quiet?”

It was Gaddafi’s purchase of the talked-about MPADS 7 years ago that precipitated these events.

We can’t put the horses back in the barn, but further probing by Congress needs to wait.

I can say that the death of Ambassador Stevens was collateral damage. My point is that the media watchers of FR need to take the hint to find something else to talk about for now.


25 posted on 10/20/2012 9:09:48 AM PDT by gandalftb (The art of diplomacy says "nice doggie", until you find a bigger rock.)
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To: gandalftb

there will be a shift away from this story
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You’re behind the curve. Look, this has already happened. The media avoided covering it from the get go. The story is bigger than Libya, we get that, and that’s why it needs to be exposed.


26 posted on 10/20/2012 9:14:57 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: gandalftb
“It’s not a claim.”
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Assuming your information is correct, how do you account for the fact that this request came from the Chairman of the House Armed Services Committee? Would Chairman McKeon not have access to at least the same classified info that you claim to have? Why would he have even made this request if such a request would exopose or jeopardize a classified, ongoing operation?

NOTE: McKeon is on FOX right now being interviewed; so, apparently he and FOX News are not satisfied and are definitely NOT dropping the issue as of this morning.

(I did review your previous posts since the time of the assassination of Ambassador Stevens and you are obviously intelligent; knowledgeable and indicate experience as an Intel analyst in both the military and State Department. That said, you did initially “buy in” to the reports of the crowd demonstrating around the Benghazi conusulate which has since proved to have been untrue. So, isn't it possible that what you have heard is disinformation?) V/r, -Geoff

27 posted on 10/20/2012 9:30:14 AM PDT by Ozymandias Ghost
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To: Starboard

“behind the curve”?

Here’s my preliminary intel report on the attack that I posted on the morning after:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2930051/posts?page=38#38

You are correct that the story is much bigger than Libya and will play out over the next couple of months.


28 posted on 10/20/2012 9:34:54 AM PDT by gandalftb (The art of diplomacy says "nice doggie", until you find a bigger rock.)
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To: gandalftb

We know.
They know we know.
We know they know we know.
What’s there to be quiet about?


29 posted on 10/20/2012 9:36:55 AM PDT by kanawa
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To: Ozymandias Ghost

I am a great fan of Fox. They are less interested in the national security aspects of the story and are driven to further diminish Obama in hopes of getting Romney elected.

A laudable goal. Fox also needs to sell airtime, I do not. National security is more important to me, regarding this story. I think Romney is going to win anyway and piling on with this Libya debacle isn’t justified.


30 posted on 10/20/2012 9:40:16 AM PDT by gandalftb (The art of diplomacy says "nice doggie", until you find a bigger rock.)
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To: kanawa

As I’ve said, the horses that are out of the barn can’t be quieted.

I woke up this morning to a stampede of Benghazi stories and felt I needed to say something that I have been quiet about for the last three weeks. Normally I would be posting daily about an issue like this and felt it was time for everyone to get onto something else for awhile.

The story is going to come out, largely through congressional sources. The intel community is hopping mad at O and Joe.


31 posted on 10/20/2012 9:44:56 AM PDT by gandalftb (The art of diplomacy says "nice doggie", until you find a bigger rock.)
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To: gandalftb

piling on with this Libya debacle isn’t justified
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To the contrary, there are other significant dimensions to this problem and therefore pressing reasons to get to the bottom of this debacle and do so as quickly as possible. I expect that the Chairman of the House Armed Services Committe if fully aware of and appreciates the gravity of them. Those reasons extend beyond just the matter of arms and it’s not hard to figure out what they are.

For whatever reasons, Fox is doing the nation a service.


32 posted on 10/20/2012 9:55:17 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: Snuph
Sounds like a COVERUP!!!

So much for Obama claims that he will "have the most transparent administration ever."

33 posted on 10/20/2012 10:03:57 AM PDT by CodeToad (Padme: "So this is how liberty dies... with thunderous applause.")
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To: gandalftb

“All of us need to drop this story line. If you see the national media going silent, it is not due to partisan politics.”

The story line is weapons tracing through Libya. Big deal. That doesn’t mean we need to sacrifice our foreign service empployees and lie about it later as Obama has.


34 posted on 10/20/2012 10:05:45 AM PDT by CodeToad (Padme: "So this is how liberty dies... with thunderous applause.")
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To: gandalftb
“Fox also needs to sell airtime, I do not.”
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It is not FOX News involvement that is important; it is the fact that Chairman McKeon is still pushing this issue and is definitely not backing off. How does that “square” w/what you proposed in your initial post on this thread?

(NOTE: Per above, I do think Catherine Herridge (sp?) does an exemplary job as an investigative journalist. Brett Baer’s report last night on the events leading up to; and inclusive of, the Benghazi attack did a creditable job of summarizing that chronology for those who hadn't been paying attention or who had become confused by the various conflicting reports. Personally, I am still having problems accepting the explanation for how the DSO assigned to accompany Stevens and Smith in the safe room during the attack became separated from them. I think there are some details there that strain credulity.)

V/r,

-Geoff

35 posted on 10/20/2012 10:14:10 AM PDT by Ozymandias Ghost
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To: Snuph; All

Thank you everyone for the great comments.


36 posted on 10/20/2012 10:53:01 AM PDT by Snuph ("give me Liberty...")
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To: Snuph

COMPLETE CRIMINAL COVERUP. THE ARE SITTING ON SOMETHING VERY VERY DAMAGING. I THINK THAT they might even think that were the Obongo reelected, he could still get impeached over this if the full aspect comes out in the future, and we have a Republican Senate and House. This will be their biggest worry. a complete phyrric victor.


37 posted on 10/20/2012 11:03:05 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Donate, & walk precincts, not for "Parties", but for individual, principled "Candidates" (& for FR)
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To: gandalftb

This is a completely different account from what I saw on Fox last night. Stevens was at the compound when the attack began. He was meeting with a dignitary from Turkey and walked him to the gate.

“Ambassador Stevens with two Marine guards and a visiting USAF communication specialist decided to drive to the consulate to either manage the situation or help evacuate to a nearby safe house. The consulate security was composed of Libyan nationals whom were advised of the travel of Stevens.

It appears that a Libyan security guard was in league with the Shaykh Omar Abdulrahman Brigades and advised them on the ambush timing.

As the ambassador’s vehicle neared the consulate it was hit with an RPG and disabled. Steven’s and the other three then engaged a running gunfight until they could get to the consulate.”


38 posted on 10/20/2012 11:03:50 AM PDT by Raebie (WS)
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To: Raebie

Make no mistake, my report the day after was hazy and the events are much clearer now, that’s why I stopped revising as incoming details became sensitive to other operations. I began this thread stating that Stevens death was collateral, that is obviously a significant revision to my reports the day after.

The reason I reposted was to respond that I have not been “behind the curve”.

Stevens was known to travel without security that was available to him and use local drivers. His hubris contributed to his loss.

Meeting with anyone at an unsecured Mission facility on 9/11 while deadly protests were underway across Africa and the Mid-east, is just flat not good thinking.

The two former SEALS did drive from the safe house to the Mission and were ambushed. Security was compromised by the locals, the essentials of my early report are correct. My naming of Azuz was the first report in the media. Subsequent reports by others naming Ansar al Sharia are mostly wrong.

Fox can report what they want, they are invested and are unable to let go of the story for many reasons. But they will be backing off soon.


39 posted on 10/20/2012 11:40:39 AM PDT by gandalftb (The art of diplomacy says "nice doggie", until you find a bigger rock.)
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To: Ozymandias Ghost

“Chairman McKeon is still pushing this issue”

He can push all he wants but no one from our military or intel services is going to show up and McKeon is not going to issue subpoenas. The investigation will go on hold for at least two months which is a shame as Obama could really get tagged.


40 posted on 10/20/2012 11:45:16 AM PDT by gandalftb (The art of diplomacy says "nice doggie", until you find a bigger rock.)
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To: gandalftb; ASA Vet

Bullshit....people died needlessly...someone needs to be held accountible.


41 posted on 10/20/2012 2:08:59 PM PDT by Dog (Founding member of the Osama Bin Laden was alive the whole time club..)
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To: Snuph

The ongoing covert action will be finished shortly after the Electoral College finishes picking the next President.


42 posted on 10/20/2012 2:16:58 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: gandalftb

I think the cat is already out of the bag. Too late to act like a serious project is still serious.

The most improtant thing, as you claim, is to get rid of idiots like Obama. Out the entire mess if you know it.

It is too late to hide it! You can’t have a mission as you say, half outed. Half outed is all outed!


43 posted on 10/20/2012 2:24:53 PM PDT by dforest
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To: gandalftb

You mean the invasion of drones that everyone is talking about?


44 posted on 10/21/2012 7:12:20 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: nuconvert

No, we’ve had drones all over Libya for over a year.

In fact there is/was a drove overwatch in Benghazi 24/7 mainly to support the many ongoing ops in Libya.

Libya is very fluid tactically and there are significant national security threats there.


45 posted on 10/22/2012 6:27:55 AM PDT by gandalftb (The art of diplomacy says "nice doggie", until you find a bigger rock.)
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To: Snuph

Crazy...Order them to a meeting in executive session, followed by an open session.

NOW


46 posted on 10/22/2012 6:37:11 AM PDT by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: workerbee

Alternatively, the Congress is seeking the already leaked info through legitimate channels.

If it is not forth coming, it will be leaked to reliable press sources for dissemination.

Panetta was given his chance and apparently stonewalled. He can now be bypassed


47 posted on 10/22/2012 6:40:17 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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