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Romney rolls into tie with Obama in Ohio [R 47 O 47 D+9]
Washington Times ^ | Saturday, October 20, 2012 | Daniel Doherty

Posted on 10/20/2012 2:50:49 PM PDT by GonzoII

The latest Gravis Marketing poll conducted in Ohio shows Governor Romney and President Obama locked in a virtual dead heat, 47% to 47%. ..

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Governor Romney leads with independents 52 to 33 percent.

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Considering no Republican candidate has ever won the presidency without first winning Ohio, the internals from this survey are rather encouraging. In fact, the ridiculous D/R/I sample breakdown — which is 41/32/27(!) — suggests that despite the obvious skew the Buckeye State is unquestionably up for grabs.

(Excerpt) Read more at times247.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: 2012polls; 2012swingstates; oh2012; poll; polls; romney2012
D +9? Does anybody believe that?
1 posted on 10/20/2012 2:50:52 PM PDT by GonzoII
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To: GonzoII

>>Considering no Republican candidate has ever won the presidency without first winning Ohio<<

I am tired of that meme. Has no one ever heard of “post hoc ergo propter hoc?”


2 posted on 10/20/2012 2:52:51 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (We can’t just leave it (food choice) up to the parents. -- moochele obozo 2/12/2012 (cnsnews))
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To: GonzoII
It's BS. Gravis skewed the number to keep Obama in contention like all the Obama media cronies doing wishful thinking.

Governor Romney leads with independents 52 to 33 percent.

No way Obama is tied or ahead with percentages like this.

3 posted on 10/20/2012 2:55:34 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: freedumb2003

What’s so special about Ohio, besides the fact that it’s a three letter word?


4 posted on 10/20/2012 2:58:52 PM PDT by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: GonzoII
Twice in the last week I have received calls from different polls. Each time they determined I was voting conservative they hung up. I would not believe any of the results they are putting out.
5 posted on 10/20/2012 3:01:43 PM PDT by JIM O
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To: GonzoII

This looks good for Romney. He’s tied with a couple weeks to go. He will seal the deal; I’ve got faith in his campaign.


6 posted on 10/20/2012 3:02:25 PM PDT by goodolemr
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To: Red Steel

Not sure how he could be up so much with independents and only be tied.


7 posted on 10/20/2012 3:04:58 PM PDT by paul544
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To: GonzoII

Gravis Marketing?

Whothehell are they; wherethehell did they come from; whatthehell is their track record?


8 posted on 10/20/2012 3:08:25 PM PDT by Arm_Bears (Re-distribute my work ethic, not my wealth.)
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To: GonzoII

Now they are even making up the polling outfits. Who ever heard of Gravis polls?


9 posted on 10/20/2012 3:11:40 PM PDT by Hattie
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To: Hattie

http://www.yahoo.com/

freep this poll


10 posted on 10/20/2012 3:27:04 PM PDT by bella1 (As it was in the days of Lot.....)
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To: GonzoII

If the affiliation of Ohio voters is 41% Democrat, 32% Republican, and 27% Independent, it means that Democrats and Independents have been voting strongly for Republicans over the past few years.

How else to explain the fact that Ohio’s governor is a Republican and both branches of Ohio’s legislature are controlled by Republicans?

It doesn’t matter if 100% of Ohio voters are registered Democrats if they continue to join Republicans and Independents in putting Republicans into office. And why should we expect Mitt Romney to get any fewer Democratic votes than Republican Governor Kasich got when he won the governorship?


11 posted on 10/20/2012 3:27:08 PM PDT by Bluestocking
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To: Red Steel

This is a 6-point Romney win. I don’t think he can win OH by that much-—I’ve said for a month that he’d get around 52-53% in OH-—but the way they jimmy these samples, you have to think they are keeping their fingers in the dikes for Obama.


12 posted on 10/20/2012 3:31:17 PM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually (Hendrix))
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To: Hattie
"Now they are even making up the polling outfits. Who ever heard of Gravis polls?" I never heard of them either. I found this on the internet:

Gravis Marketing: Polls and Reporting
http://www.angrybearblog.com/2012/09/gravis-marketing-polls-and-reporting-ii.html





13 posted on 10/20/2012 3:35:00 PM PDT by preacher (Communism has only killed 100 million people: Let's give it another chance!)
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To: GonzoII
Rats plus 9 and Osama’s only even??? Hey,Baraq...it's 1-800-MAYFLOWER!
14 posted on 10/20/2012 4:01:34 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Ambassador Stevens Is Dead And The Chevy Volt Is Alive)
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To: Bluestocking
How else to explain the fact that Ohio’s governor is a Republican and both branches of Ohio’s legislature are controlled by Republicans?

And,for that matter,the fact that 13 of the state's 18 House seats are currently held by Republicans.

15 posted on 10/20/2012 4:07:13 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Ambassador Stevens Is Dead And The Chevy Volt Is Alive)
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To: JIM O
I have never received a call from a pollster, but I have a system for unwanted callers.

I keep them talking and waste their time and their dime by letting them think I might be persuaded to buy whatever cr*p they are peddling.

16 posted on 10/20/2012 4:09:01 PM PDT by Churchillspirit (9/11/2001. NEVER FORGET.)
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To: GonzoII

The liberal media and the pollsters must avoid telling the truth about Ohio. They have to prolong the race as long as they can.


17 posted on 10/20/2012 4:11:35 PM PDT by HChampagne
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To: freedumb2003

“I am tired of that meme. Has no one ever heard of “post hoc ergo propter hoc?””

Now nobody will want to hire you to sell mutual funds :)


18 posted on 10/20/2012 4:14:37 PM PDT by ari-freedom
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To: Churchillspirit

I do that too! And I progressively ask stupider and supider questions. They are reluctant to hang up on a potential hooked fish, but they aren’t sure if I am putting them on either. In the end, I am never interested. It can be quite fun, actually.


19 posted on 10/20/2012 5:10:29 PM PDT by fhayek
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To: GonzoII
Regarding the observation "no Republican has ever won the Presidency without first winning Ohio" (an odd locution), Randall Munroe at XKCD provides this cautionary compendium against taking such observations as predictive:

They're also very silly -- sillier when applied to the serious business of politics then when such precedents are cited by sports announcers.

20 posted on 10/20/2012 5:44:29 PM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know...)
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To: JIM O

I’ve heard other people say they were hung up on when they told them how they were voting. This is very interesting. Are these pollsters then marking the ballot as for O? Makes one curious.


21 posted on 10/20/2012 7:05:09 PM PDT by Catsrus (Ma)
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To: HChampagne
The liberal media and the pollsters must avoid telling the truth about Ohio. They have to prolong the race as long as they can.

I'm starting to think that it really is that simple. If the LSM start talking about Ohio going to Romney, given the other states that appear to be going Romney's way, then it truly is over for 0bama.

22 posted on 10/20/2012 11:34:49 PM PDT by sargon
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