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Moraga: Gay teen denied Eagle Scout submits petition asking Boy Scouts to change policy
mercury news ^ | 10/19/2012 | rick hurd

Posted on 10/20/2012 3:41:29 PM PDT by redreno

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1 posted on 10/20/2012 3:41:35 PM PDT by redreno
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To: redreno

Call it anything you want....the kid is solicitating for homos.


2 posted on 10/20/2012 3:45:57 PM PDT by Sacajaweau (r)
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To: redreno

A Boy Scout is Clean and Articulate.


3 posted on 10/20/2012 3:48:43 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: redreno

Why don’t homosexuals establish their own organizations instead of trying to soil traditional ones? They are trying to force their perversion on normal people at every opportunity.


4 posted on 10/20/2012 3:49:22 PM PDT by txrefugee
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To: redreno

Note he is not petitioning to get his award, but to open the door for homosexuality in the boy scouts. Evil to the core...


5 posted on 10/20/2012 3:50:28 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: redreno
“Gay” teens are the victims of child abuse. They turn around and become abusers themselves. That’s why I think homosexuality is a form of Stockholm Syndrome.
6 posted on 10/20/2012 3:50:58 PM PDT by Varda
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To: redreno

Ironically enough (or perversely enough), this is happening at the same time as BSA is being dumped on for the “perversion files”.

The homosexuals argue that not all homosexuals are pedophiles. That’s true — but, it’s also true that all male on male pedophiles are homosexual men.


7 posted on 10/20/2012 3:54:03 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: redreno
I commend this kid for the effort he made towards attaining Eagle Scout; it's a shame he forgot the ideals that go with Scouting. It was obviously far more important for him to make a social political/political correctness statement than to adhere to the principals that have guided the BSA for many decades. The BSA was forced to release names of adults (makes me sick to call them leaders) that prescribe to the life style this young man chose to follow. I don't understand why people of his persuasions do not start their own organization and enjoy life as they choose. I wish him a happy life but hope the BSA rejects his petition.
8 posted on 10/20/2012 3:54:33 PM PDT by wvnavyvet
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To: redreno

There is no good reason for the BSA to change their policy


9 posted on 10/20/2012 3:55:33 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: redreno

I wonder who his mentor was, you know, the guy that convinced the kid he was a homosexual..........


10 posted on 10/20/2012 3:56:33 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Jab him with a harpoon.....)
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To: Sacajaweau

5% of scouts attain Eagle Scout status. It takes, on average, 4.5 years to earn it. The average age upon award is 15.5 years. My understanding is that the cutoff age is 18. If you are that age aren’t we talking about mixing foxes with chickens, especially if the fox is thinking he’s gay? The assumption is that a “clean” scout is celibate. Methinks this young man needs to put away childish things and move on.


11 posted on 10/20/2012 3:57:54 PM PDT by Procyon (Decentralize, degovernmentalize, deregulate, demonopolize, decredentialize, disentitle.)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

Maybe he collected the 400,000 signatures to get a merit badge.../s

Sorry not willing to let young boys go out into the woods alone away from their family with other gay scout leaders or boy scouts. I wonder if NAMBLA is working behind the scenes to make this happen. It would give them access to young boys if the members applied to be scout leaders. I know its even sickening to even go there but in this day and age nothing surprises me anymore.


12 posted on 10/20/2012 4:00:13 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: redreno

Too bad. Either you and your mom want to brag about how you like to play in poop with your sick perversions or you can work toward a noble goal.

You can have your crap and eat it too, but not as a Scout.


13 posted on 10/20/2012 4:01:21 PM PDT by soycd
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To: jsanders2001

I say go ahead and give him his damn Eagle Scout designation but not change any of the policies about admitting them. If they give it to him and it’s not enough then we will know his true agenda


14 posted on 10/20/2012 4:03:06 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: redreno
What part of "and keep myself...MORALLY STRAIGHT" don't they understand??? If they don't like it, then they can create their own gay organization that caters to them. I've had it with them shoving their agenda and "values" down my throat.
15 posted on 10/20/2012 4:04:46 PM PDT by Biff55 (A furore Normanorum libera nos, O Domine!)
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To: Procyon

I earned my Eagle Scout at 12 in 1963; exception waiver given by Hon Pres, JFK, on Nov 20th, 2 days before he was assassinated. I still carry my dated, laminated BSA Eagle wallet card, and have my ES Certificate, God & Country, Order of The Arrow Certs in my office.

Let the homo/pervert kid join something else; the BSA is a private organization and can refuse membership. Screw the United Way etc funds; we can fund it independently and preserve the morals I pledged to, in my Eagle Ceremony.


16 posted on 10/20/2012 4:07:38 PM PDT by carriage_hill (The 0bummer Penguin & Bidet Joker: We played this country like a harp from hell.)
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To: redreno

And yes, I earned my Eagle rank back in 1976.


17 posted on 10/20/2012 4:08:18 PM PDT by Biff55 (A furore Normanorum libera nos, O Domine!)
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To: txrefugee

Why don’t homosexuals establish their own organizations instead of trying to soil traditional ones? They are trying to force their perversion on normal people at every opportunity.

Your second sentence answered the first. It’s about recruiting


18 posted on 10/20/2012 4:09:21 PM PDT by Figment
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To: Hot Tabasco

I agree with you....We never hear about what is likely “statutory rape”.


19 posted on 10/20/2012 4:09:38 PM PDT by Sacajaweau (r)
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To: redreno

Oh for Heaven’s sake....here we go again with one more Communist step.....get rid of morals along with religion. Lets have names of his supporters....Leave this BSA troop alone.....form your own group and do as you wish...adequate has nothing to do with it.


20 posted on 10/20/2012 4:10:43 PM PDT by yoe (Vote for the Real American whose love for his country was NEVER in question.)
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To: Biff55

They understand that it’s easy to get what they want by redefining the language involved. Thus “Morally Straight” becomes “Gay is a moral choice and you are a homophobe bigot for claiming anything contrary”.

The MSM rants and raves endlessly, fence sitters capitulate to stop hearing the whining and the definition of morality is sacrificed on the PC altar.

Once Gay is propagandized sufficiently as a ‘normal’ aspect of what society considers moral, the BSA/ military et all cannot use it as an argument because, as we all know “Gay is a moral choice”.

Sickening, but that’s the way libs work.


21 posted on 10/20/2012 4:12:40 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: wvnavyvet

I don’t understand why people of his persuasions do not start their own organization and enjoy life as they choose

Because they want to increase their ranks of deviants. If all you’re hanging out with is other queers, you can’t recruit fresh meat


22 posted on 10/20/2012 4:12:59 PM PDT by Figment
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To: jsanders2001
I say go ahead and give him his damn Eagle Scout designation

They can't.

He publicly renounces the Scout Oath and Law. If they give him an Eagle Badge - in fact, if they don't kick him .out - they are flushing the whole organization down the toilet.

He is not qualified to be an Eagle Scout, by his own words.

23 posted on 10/20/2012 4:14:04 PM PDT by Jim Noble (Diseases desperate grown are by desperate appliance relieved or not at all.)
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To: redreno

At least, he’s petitioning instead of denouncing or suing.


24 posted on 10/20/2012 4:14:57 PM PDT by Tanniker Smith (Rome didn't fall in a day, either.)
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To: redreno

It ain’t gonna happen kid.


25 posted on 10/20/2012 4:15:16 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: Biff55

I earned mine in ‘78...signed by Jimmah Caarta.


26 posted on 10/20/2012 4:15:46 PM PDT by SgtBob (Freedom is not for the faint of heart. Semper Fi!)
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My son’s is signed by ... Barry Soetoro ;-).


27 posted on 10/20/2012 4:17:55 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("You know I'm always there for you," he told her, as he hurried out the door.)
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To: Tanniker Smith

That’ll come next, right after National telss him NO.


28 posted on 10/20/2012 4:18:37 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: Tanniker Smith

That’ll come next, right after National tells him NO.


29 posted on 10/20/2012 4:18:51 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: Biff55

On my honor, I will do my best
To do my duty to God and my country and to obey the Scout Law;
To help other people at all times;
To keep myself physically strong, mentally awake and morally straight.


30 posted on 10/20/2012 4:19:20 PM PDT by SgtBob (Freedom is not for the faint of heart. Semper Fi!)
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To: Varda

Stories such as this never mention when the kid had his first homosexual encounter that convinced him he was homosexual. Nor do they mention that the likelyhood of that first encounter was with a homosexual adult........They are mentored, pure and simple.


31 posted on 10/20/2012 4:20:12 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Jab him with a harpoon.....)
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To: jsanders2001

I would say the gays have already gotten more than they have a right to expect from the white hetero guilt train, but it’s up to the moderator whether I have the right to say it.


32 posted on 10/20/2012 4:22:22 PM PDT by Tuanedge (The buffalo hates the tiger, but the tiger loves the buffalo.)
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To: Varda

As a side note, how many of the Jerry Sandusky victims who came forward to testify against him are now homosexuals?


33 posted on 10/20/2012 4:23:01 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Jab him with a harpoon.....)
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To: txrefugee

They will say that they don’t want to force the Boy Scouts to change out of one side of their face and then ask them to do exactly the opposite.


34 posted on 10/20/2012 4:23:14 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied.)
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To: redreno

When I was a Boy Scout, we never had these issues. No one cared, but then again, no one would come out and say they were a flamer either.


35 posted on 10/20/2012 4:24:00 PM PDT by Sarajevo (Don't think for a minute that this excuse for a President has America's best interest in mind.)
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Gay teen denied Eagle Scout submits petition asking Boy Scouts to change policy

Look weenie-boy;

Unless you've been on another planet for the last week, you should damn-well know, from the news, that we've had more than enough experience with you disease-ridden, boy-raping whackjobs.

We're all set here, take your crazy talk somewhere else.

36 posted on 10/20/2012 4:26:47 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month)
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I’ve seen all the Scouts in your brood, and I think it’s fantastic!

I figured long ago, it matters not the signators on your certificate...what does matter is keeping the motivation, and work ethic that drove you to earn it.

Congrats to your wonderful son!


37 posted on 10/20/2012 4:28:50 PM PDT by SgtBob (Freedom is not for the faint of heart. Semper Fi!)
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To: redreno

Just ask the kid “How do we know you’re gay?”


38 posted on 10/20/2012 4:31:36 PM PDT by struggle (http://killthegovernment.wordpress.com/)
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To: redreno

Ryan Andresen of Moraga marched into the front office of the Mt. Diablo Silverado Council on Ellinwood Way along with his parents and a former member of the same Boy Scout troop who came out as gay two weeks ago.
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Kinda makes me wonder if Ryan helped this other kid come out. That’s why Scouts do not need young perverts in their ranks..


39 posted on 10/20/2012 4:32:06 PM PDT by Venturer
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From the article, Ryan says: By asking me to lie about who I am, the Scouts are going against their own values of being trustworthy.

Here is the center of his flawed logic. Nobody is asking him to lie about who he is - he can be a person who suffers from same-sex attraction, and it may in fact be something with a physiological root. However, having same-sex attraction does not imply that one must identify as "homosexual" or embrace the "gay" lifestyle. That is the part that goes against the ideals of Scouting.

The best witness that he can give to the ideals of Scouting is the same as I would say that a Christian with SSA can give: embrace a celibate lifestyle instead of the gay lifestyle. There are groups like Courage to help support people as they struggle to build the habits to live chastely.

40 posted on 10/20/2012 4:36:42 PM PDT by GCC Catholic
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please love me, i’m a butt pirate, please accept me and tell me i’m wonderful and great just the way i am. also by doing so you’ll admit you’ve been wrong all along.


41 posted on 10/20/2012 4:37:23 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: redreno

Joining is voluntary.

If you don’t like the rules of the organization, go to another organization.


42 posted on 10/20/2012 4:41:04 PM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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To: redreno

Also, let’s just enjoy the irony or hypocrisy that homosexuals are pushing to loosen the rules of perverts in the BSA in the same week that the BSA files of abuse are released to the public.


43 posted on 10/20/2012 4:42:21 PM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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To: Hot Tabasco

Homosexuals target boys who are troubled. They’ve been known to hang around them for years before making an overt move. Studies show that homosexuals targeting boys is the norm among them. So I think pin pointing a first homosexual encounter wouldn’t be possible.


44 posted on 10/20/2012 4:45:10 PM PDT by Varda
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To: redreno

He can’t be an Eagle but it seems to me he is qualified to be a Bluebird.


45 posted on 10/20/2012 4:45:57 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Dumb or Dumber? Biden or Obama?)
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe

Yes, CNN was trashing the scouts hard because of those files.

Wonder how many lives they plan to ruin.


46 posted on 10/20/2012 4:47:52 PM PDT by Pikachu_Dad (Impeach Sen Quinn)
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To: SgtBob

Bill’s a heck of a Scout ;-). #2 son will have his Eagle project underway before the end of this year, and then we have a long break because the next son is only 10 (Webelos 2, “Ice Dragons Patrol”).

Boy Scouts is a great organization for the whole family. We only wish that, as in most countries, boys and girls did parallel programs within the same organization. Practically everyone I know with Girl Scouts experience would like to have Packs or Troops of girls doing the same program as the boys!


47 posted on 10/20/2012 4:48:08 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("You know I'm always there for you," he told her, as he hurried out the door.)
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To: redreno

No


48 posted on 10/20/2012 5:24:29 PM PDT by Shaka
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To: redreno
"I did get a chance to ask what I wanted. I didn't choose my sexuality, just like he didn't choose his."

You do choose your behavior though.

49 posted on 10/20/2012 5:29:43 PM PDT by circlecity
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They’ve been known to hang around them for years before making an overt move

Very interesting since I had a similar experience when I was 15......I'll relay it when I have more time.

50 posted on 10/20/2012 5:35:13 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Jab him with a harpoon.....)
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