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Sources: Predator drone was over Benghazi consulate during last hours of attack
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Posted on 10/20/2012 7:39:22 PM PDT by chessplayer

CBS News has been told that, hours after the attack began, an unmanned Predator drone was sent over the U.S. mission in Benghazi, and that the drone and other reconnaissance aircraft apparently observed the final hours of the protracted battle…

But it was too late to help the Americans in Benghazi. The ambassador and three others were dead.

Retired CIA officer Gary Berntsen believes help could have come much sooner. He commanded CIA counter-terrorism missions targeting Osama bin Laden and led the team that responded after bombings of the U.S. Embassy in East Africa.

“You find a way to make this happen,” Berntsen says. “There isn’t a plan for every single engagement. Sometimes you have to be able to make adjustments. They made zero adjustments in this. They stood and they watched and our people died.”


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: absent; absentpresident; benghazi; benghazigate; derelictionofduty; emptychair; garyberntsen; impeach; noshow; shadowwars; shameful; threatmatrix
Well, obama didn't watch. He had to get his sleep so he could campaign in Vegas.
1 posted on 10/20/2012 7:39:29 PM PDT by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer

We need to outlaw videos that offend Muslims. We cant let this happen again, Cant yell fire in a crowded theater, Hillary 2016. She was so heroic.


2 posted on 10/20/2012 7:43:07 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is still a liberal. Just watch him. (Obama-ney Care ))
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To: chessplayer

Thehad a huge SF QRT ready in Southern Italy just 1 hr flight away and while they begged to launch their commanders had them all geared up, just sitting on the tarmac.

While our people died.


3 posted on 10/20/2012 7:46:33 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: chessplayer

Haven’t we all known this for weeks?


4 posted on 10/20/2012 7:46:51 PM PDT by randita
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To: gaijin

Finally! Somebody is talking about the lack of a rescue attempt. To me, this is the real crime of the Obama administration. At the very least, this is dereliction of duty. The families of the embassy people should be screaming bloody murder than not one attempt was made to save these folks. It’s absolutely shameful.


5 posted on 10/20/2012 7:48:31 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX ( The state is the great fiction by which everybody seeks to live at the expense of everybody else. ~)
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To: chessplayer

0bama set Stevens up to be murdered. I would really like to know why.


6 posted on 10/20/2012 7:49:16 PM PDT by The Sons of Liberty ("Get that evil, foreign, muslim, usurping, gay commie bastard out of MY White House!" FUBO!)
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To: sickoflibs

ROFLMAO! In a nutshell.


7 posted on 10/20/2012 7:50:04 PM PDT by doc1019
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To: gaijin

BTW, where did you get your information? I would like to know more about this.


8 posted on 10/20/2012 7:50:49 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX ( The state is the great fiction by which everybody seeks to live at the expense of everybody else. ~)
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To: chessplayer
(an original, feel free to share)
9 posted on 10/20/2012 7:51:13 PM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears (John Roberts did more to endanger the lives of Americans than all 9/11 hijackers combined.)
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To: chessplayer
0bama was notified when the attack was underway and could have seen and heard the live feed from the consulate as it happened.

Our ambassador, two former SEALs in our employ and another diplomatic corps employee were slaughtered in front of his eyes and he says “it wasn’t optimal.”

Col David Hunt transcript: Real-Time Proof of Benghazi Negligence and Cover-up

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Desertion!

For weeks now I have thought that the denial of requests for security were a dereliction of duty. I consider the lies and misdirection about the "video" after the attack to be fraud and malfeasance under the color of authority. I don't consider the inaction during the attack to be any of those.

IMO the failure to act during the attack is the direct equivalent of desertion.

ONE MAN had the authority to act that night.

ONE MAN deserted his post!

10 posted on 10/20/2012 7:53:19 PM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: Pining_4_TX
“You find a way to make this happen,” Berntsen says. “There isn’t a plan for every single engagement. Sometimes you have to be able to make adjustments. They made zero adjustments in this. They stood and they watched and our people died.”

YOU FIND A WAY TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN.

11 posted on 10/20/2012 7:54:48 PM PDT by cyn
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To: chessplayer

bttt


12 posted on 10/20/2012 7:58:00 PM PDT by rdl6989 (January 20, 2013 The end of an error.)
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To: Pining_4_TX
Finally! Somebody is talking about the lack of a rescue attempt. To me, this is the real crime of the Obama administration. At the very least, this is dereliction of duty.

Refusal to provide new security personnel and lack of a rescue. Why do I have the feeling we have a foreign Muslim in the Oval Office?

13 posted on 10/20/2012 7:58:11 PM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: The Sons of Liberty

obama didn’t set him up to be murdered. He just didn’t care if he was killed.


14 posted on 10/20/2012 7:59:00 PM PDT by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer

Mama Jarrett made sure the little boy king was not disturbed


15 posted on 10/20/2012 7:59:52 PM PDT by Doogle ((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: The Sons of Liberty

How ‘bout, Obama set Stevens up to be kidnapped....


16 posted on 10/20/2012 8:00:48 PM PDT by SgtBob (Freedom is not for the faint of heart. Semper Fi!)
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To: doc1019; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; Gilbo_3; NFHale; Impy; ...
RE :”ROFLMAO! In a nutshell.”

Thanks
I am sure the Wise Latino can find a loophole in the first amendment that stops those here from offending Muslims in other countries especially if it saves lives overseas.
Especially in countries where Obama was instrumental in freeing the masses to be a nation in his image true freedom and enlightenment, like Libya.

We need to outlaw videos that offend Muslims. We cant let this happen again, Cant yell fire in a crowded theater, Hillary 2016. She was so heroic
SOL ref at #2

17 posted on 10/20/2012 8:05:38 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is still a liberal. Just watch him. (Obama-ney Care ))
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To: chessplayer

The Eye in the Sky,
Was an Obamadone spy,
While Obama laid down his tired head.

Our Ambassador and three lay dead
While Obama and Hilly lied and said:
“The Media will shield Truth,
‘til the votes have been read.
Those who question or dare to ask why?
Are offensive vermin who just want to politicize.”

The Manuscript Dump and The Spy in the Sky
Find Obama and Hilly without any clothes.
For Romney I’ll vote,
Though I may hold my nose, again.


18 posted on 10/20/2012 8:06:20 PM PDT by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: gaijin

Please don’t write if you can’t write. Thehad ?? SF QRT ?? Wtf is a (an) SF GRT? You bother to specify it’s in SOUTHERN Italy, but we aren’t favored with your further enlightenment...


19 posted on 10/20/2012 8:09:04 PM PDT by Minnesota fox
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To: Pining_4_TX

He was terrified a Black Hawk Down would sink his election so he let them die.

Pray for America


20 posted on 10/20/2012 8:12:47 PM PDT by bray (Islam- A billion medieval savages can't be wrong!)
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To: Minnesota fox

SF QRF, sorry for the typo I’m on a Phone in a chaotic environment and im not suposed to be doing this.


21 posted on 10/20/2012 8:14:10 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: gaijin

SF. Special forces
QRF. Quick reaction force


22 posted on 10/20/2012 8:15:53 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: The Sons of Liberty

I think he set him up for a kidnapping and it went bad on him.


23 posted on 10/20/2012 8:16:20 PM PDT by fudimo
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To: cyn

obama didn’t make it happen


24 posted on 10/20/2012 8:16:24 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: gaijin

My guess is after the first QRF from Tripoli took KIA, command got cold feet and began to imagine a “Desert One” scenario and cancelled the second QRF from Italy.

So they just sat there. So now u c why i say this was Barry’s own blackhawk down —> HAWK BACKDOWN.


25 posted on 10/20/2012 8:21:31 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: rolling_stone; gaijin

NO, he didn’t, and that’s a key concept. Eastwood’s empty chair is an incredibly powerful visual of this absent-in-every-way would-be president.

Any normal human beings watching the situation in Benghazi unfold were beside themselves wanting to ACT.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2943056/posts — interview with Sean Smith’s mother; otw the other parents seem to be holding in their criticism of the administration except for the “politicizing” (!!?) by Romney (!!?) of their sons’ deaths.


26 posted on 10/20/2012 8:33:26 PM PDT by cyn
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To: gaijin

Wow. A very reasoned, thought-out take. And this presents a cold, calculated scenerio that would be on track with the type of things he schemed in the Illinois political realm, and thereafter. Imagine the boy/child and his bobos sitting there watching in real time...


27 posted on 10/20/2012 8:34:12 PM PDT by Minnesota fox
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To: gaijin

Wow. A very reasoned, thought-out take. And this presents a cold, calculated scenerio that would be on track with the type of things he schemed in the Illinois political realm, and thereafter. Imagine the boy/child and his bobos sitting there watching in real time...


28 posted on 10/20/2012 8:34:12 PM PDT by Minnesota fox
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2947297/posts — ‘My son is NOT very optimal... he is very dead’: Mother of U.S. diplomat Sean Smith — from the DAILY MAIL.


29 posted on 10/20/2012 8:40:16 PM PDT by cyn
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To: gaijin

The first QRF was only a small group of Americans who met up with a group of Libyans. Why was there a second QRF? Were they both supposed to rescue and evacuate?


30 posted on 10/20/2012 8:40:44 PM PDT by Girlene
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To: Girlene

Yes the first was just 10 Americans and 30 Libyans from Tripoli and the second was larger, more powerful and from further away, but didn’t end up launching for what i think was political reasons. And they both had the same mission.


31 posted on 10/20/2012 8:47:07 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: Girlene

There were two because the decision was made to evac ALL personel both from the consulate and also the “annex” one mile away.


32 posted on 10/20/2012 8:50:31 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: gaijin

Why wouldn’t they launch at the same time?


33 posted on 10/20/2012 9:02:09 PM PDT by Girlene
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To: chessplayer

0bama is a Leader. As such, he figured by going that day to campaign in Las Vegas, everybody would see he didn’t think it was a big deal... and follow him in that thought.

As for the drone, that was to make the movie, for release by the first couple of days in November, gracing us with his eminent leadership.


34 posted on 10/20/2012 9:14:16 PM PDT by C210N ("ask not what the candidate can do for you, ask what you can do for the candidate" (Breitbart, 2012))
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To: randita

Yes .


35 posted on 10/20/2012 9:30:57 PM PDT by katykelly
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To: Pining_4_TX
Finally! Somebody is talking about the lack of a rescue attempt. To me, this is the real crime of the Obama administration. At the very least, this is dereliction of duty. The families of the embassy people should be screaming bloody murder than not one attempt was made to save these folks. It’s absolutely shameful.

One aspect of the Benghazi situation that has gotten very little attention is the fact that absolutely no attempt was made to send help during the 8 hour attack on the consulate. Romney needs to confront Obama about this point and demand an explanation during Monday's debate.

36 posted on 10/20/2012 9:39:50 PM PDT by GreenHornet
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To: Pining_4_TX

There is a huge difference in the make up of a man who does not respect and feel the duty to protect human life and one who does.

The man who does not respect human life will see the deaths of people without emotion and empathy. It does not matter to him in a deep way if people are killed and he’s not moved to be a hero.

The man who loves his fellow man will go out of his way to protect the lives of others. You see it in life around emergencies...the man who will dive into the water to rescue the stranger whose car when over the bridge versus the man who will just stand there.

Obama is the guy who has distain for people and human life.


37 posted on 10/20/2012 9:57:56 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: chessplayer

Well, no Keeeding!

We came, We Saw, Our Good Men Died...

Film at 11:00....


38 posted on 10/20/2012 10:43:50 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Minnesota fox
Wow. A very reasoned, thought-out take. And this presents a cold, calculated scenerio that would be on track with the type of things he schemed in the Illinois political realm, and thereafter. Imagine the boy/child and his bobos sitting there watching in real time...

For hours- literally for hours. That's an eternity in todays battlefield.

If the whole assault lasted over 6 hours and the military had time to get a slow moving Predator on station and orbit it for “the last several hours” (ie 3+ hours) while the assault was in progress, then there was plenty of time to call in several waves of fast moving attack jets armed with precision JDAM munitions guided by the Predator's targeting system to hit terrorists attacking the Embassy and to provide air support for the Seal relief team coming in and to cover their retreat to the second safe house.

From reports, it seems like just about everybody who was anybody (except, it seems, Obama himself), both in theater and in Washington, was watching the attack unfold from start to finish in real time with both audio and video feeds and the Embassy security chief giving a real time narrative for hours right up until the time he was killed, presumably on screen.

After the Embassy was over run and it was obvious all staff were either dead or had left, the whole Embassy with it's attackers in it should have been bombed until there was nothing left standing to keep all classified information from falling into the hands of the enemy and to save the FBI a wasted trip Libya in a futile effort “to catch the real killer”.

Our people deserve better.

39 posted on 10/20/2012 11:38:49 PM PDT by rdcbn
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears

Ooh, I love it.


40 posted on 10/20/2012 11:40:57 PM PDT by Catsrus (Ma)
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To: gaijin

Chicken Hawk


41 posted on 10/21/2012 2:42:08 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: chessplayer
But it was too late to help the Americans in Benghazi. The ambassador and three others were dead.

I would say that even if they were alive - what would the drone do to save them? Plus, did they even know at that specific time that they were dead?

42 posted on 10/21/2012 3:31:22 AM PDT by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: Pining_4_TX
Deputy Assisstant SoS Charlene Lamb admitted to being in REAL TIME contact.

http://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/2012-10-09-Lamb-Testimony-FINAL1.pdf

Listen to the links provided in this post.(or go to the header and hear the whole interview) Col. Hunt explains the protocols that are followed in such instances.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2944272/posts?page=14#14

43 posted on 10/21/2012 5:39:07 AM PDT by Roccus (ABLE DANGER????.......What's an ABLE DANGER????)
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To: chessplayer

so when the 3AM phone call came, Obama literally went back to sleep?

OMG I hate to say it but HilLIARy actually told the truth once.


44 posted on 10/21/2012 6:27:29 AM PDT by Mr. K ("The only thing the World would hate more than the USA in charge is the USA NOT in charge")
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To: American Constitutionalist

Chicken hawk?


45 posted on 10/21/2012 9:26:31 AM PDT by gaijin
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To: gaijin

They were so chicken to respond to the attacks.


46 posted on 10/21/2012 12:58:15 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: American Constitutionalist

Yes..! Good one. And a chickenhawk is a molester I think.


47 posted on 10/21/2012 1:11:33 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: gaijin

Would not be surprised one bit if that were the case... nothing would surprise us about these clown losers anymore..


48 posted on 10/21/2012 2:14:46 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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