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To some, Obama is the 'wrong' kind of Christian
CNN ^ | October 21, 2012 | By John Blake

Posted on 10/21/2012 5:48:02 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

...Historians may remember Obama as the nation’s first black president, but he’s also a religious pioneer. He’s not only changed people’s perception of who can be president, some scholars and pastors say, but he’s also expanding the definition of who can be a Christian by challenging the religious right’s domination of the national stage.

Obama is a progressive Christian who blends the emotional fire of the African-American church, the ecumenical outlook of contemporary Protestantism, and the activism of the Social Gospel, a late 19th-century movement whose leaders faulted American churches for focusing too much on personal salvation while ignoring the conditions that led to pervasive poverty.

No other president has shared the hybrid faith that Obama displays, says Diana Butler Bass, a historian and author of “Christianity after Religion.”

“The kind of faith that Obama articulates is not the sort of Christianity that’s understood by the media or by a large swath of Christians in the U.S.,” says Bass, a progressive Christian. “He’s a different kind of Christian, and the media and the public awareness needs to reawaken to that fact.”

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1 posted on 10/21/2012 5:48:11 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
"he’s also a religious pioneer."

First TOTUS with "his Muslim Faith".

2 posted on 10/21/2012 5:49:48 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Jack of all trades and master of none?

Naw, he’s not even a good jack.


3 posted on 10/21/2012 5:51:59 AM PDT by CPOSharky (zero slogan: Expect less, pay more. (apologies to Target))
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Obama is a progressive Christian

Pfffft. Which is to say, he's no Christian at all. Christianity is one of the reasons he hates America.

4 posted on 10/21/2012 5:54:02 AM PDT by libertylover (The problem with Obama is not that his skin is too black, it's that his ideas are too RED.)
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To: CPOSharky

Wow, now he’s Martin Luther.


5 posted on 10/21/2012 5:54:18 AM PDT by HannibalHamlinJr
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Obama is a muzzie


6 posted on 10/21/2012 5:54:46 AM PDT by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Obama is a progressive Christian...WOW! Words fail me.


7 posted on 10/21/2012 5:55:14 AM PDT by FES0844
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“The kind of faith that Obama articulates is not the sort of Christianity that’s understood by the media or by a large swath of Christians in the U.S.,”

Now there is an understatement worth its weight in ...something. Just when you think the media narrative couldn’t possibly get any more ridiculous, they manage to find a way.

I doubt that Christians are going to add the shahada to their daily prayers any time soon,


8 posted on 10/21/2012 5:55:39 AM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills and none dare call it treason)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

>> “He’s a different kind of Christian, and the media and the public awareness needs to reawaken to that fact.”

That he is! Different in the sense that he is a Christian without Christ, a communist using the “Christ brand” to market his ideology of poverty and death. In the Christian terminology, he is a “false teacher” at best, anti-christ at worst. (That’s small-a anti-christ, not The Antichrist. Even Satan wouldn’t use an incompetent tool like Obama.)


9 posted on 10/21/2012 5:55:39 AM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

First “black” president? Recall that he who controls the meaning of words controls the outcome of the discussion.

In the context of Critical Race Theory, just what, exactly, is meant by “race” and thus “racism”, “racist” and even “black”? We have a prominent case of “race” in that BHO told us in his own autobiography that in his youth he struggled with his racial identity and finally chose to be ‘black”. However, he also tells us that his mother was Caucasian and his father was from Kenya but listed as part Arab. In 1988, none other than Bill Clinton was called our “first black president” by Nobel poet Tony Morrison.

If a Caucasian man can be “black”, and a person with a Caucasian mother can decide to be black despite the fact his biological father may be more Arab than black or something else, then what, exactly is meant by “black”?

When Bill Maher, during a panel discussion on HBO complains that Obama’s policies are “half-assed” “because he’s only half black.” and that “if he was fully black, I’m telling you, he would be a better president.”, and that “there’s a white man in him holding him back”, than what is “black”?

CNN’s Soledad O’Brien writes of a private meeting in 2007 with Jesse Jackson in her book, “The Next Big Story.” During the meeting, Jackson complained to O’Brien, whose mother is a black woman from Cuba, that there weren’t any black anchors on CNN. She wrote, “He looks me in the eye and reaches his fingers over to tap a spot of skin on my right hand. He shakes his head. “You don’t count,” he says.” She closed the section with “[t]he arbiter of blackness had weighed in. I had been measured and found wanting.”

Finally, Dr. Cornel West, whose official web site describes him as “a prominent and provocative democratic intellectual”, was the subject of an article in the May 18, 2011 Washington Post. Reporter Krissah Thompson opened with, “Scholar Cornel West’s scathing critique of President Obama’s liberal bona fides in a series of recent interviews has ignited a furious debate among African American bloggers and commentators.”

These are all facts that anyone can verify on Google in 0.8 seconds.

References to race, racism and especially to “black”, in all these contexts, is clearly not about “race”. It is about ideology, socialist ideology. The problem is not how black all these people may be, but how RED. With that in mind, to a person who equates “black” with socialist, then “racism” and “racist” is only about people who reject socialism and socialists.


10 posted on 10/21/2012 5:56:21 AM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: FES0844

Can you say “Oxymoron”?


11 posted on 10/21/2012 5:58:58 AM PDT by NotTallTex
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

There’s only one kind of Christian that I know of. One that loves Jesus Christ and works hard to follow the 10 commandments and to do right by his family friends and neighbors. This turdOTUS makes no attempt at any of this.


12 posted on 10/21/2012 6:00:01 AM PDT by albie ("Work as if you were to live a hundred years. Pray as if you were to die tomorrow." Benjamin Frankli)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

MAJOR BARF ALERT!!!


13 posted on 10/21/2012 6:01:44 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Obozo is a wolf in sheep’s clothing plain and simple. A false believer who is about to get exposed royally. All that follow and support him are guilty of his sins.


14 posted on 10/21/2012 6:01:52 AM PDT by DarthVader (Politicians govern out of self interest, Statesmen govern for a Vision greater than themselves)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

He’s the only “Christian” I know who supports abortion to the point that babies who manage to be born alive are left to die.

He also supports two people of the same gender “marrying” each other. That is not Christian.

If the definition of “progressive Christian” means saying you’re a Christian for the purpose of progressing in your political ambitions, then, yes, that’s what he is.


15 posted on 10/21/2012 6:02:06 AM PDT by JudyinCanada
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To: patriot08
Damn straight.

No one confuses their faith. ("My Muslim faith...")

A Christian doesn't cover up the images of Christ when entering a place to speak. (Georgetown University)

A Christian does not require religions like the Catholic Church, or any Christian/Jewish faith for that matter, to choose against their beliefs in legislation. (HHS Mandate for Obama care.)

16 posted on 10/21/2012 6:02:24 AM PDT by Northern Yankee (Where Liberty dwells, there is my Country. - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: theBuckwheat
The problem is not how black all these people may be, but how RED.

Yep, see tagline.

17 posted on 10/21/2012 6:03:33 AM PDT by libertylover (The problem with Obama is not that his skin is too black, it's that his ideas are too RED.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I most certainly understand Rev Wright’s church of GOD DAM AMERICA.


18 posted on 10/21/2012 6:03:33 AM PDT by IC Ken
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I most certainly understand Rev Wright’s church of GOD DAM AMERICA.


19 posted on 10/21/2012 6:03:39 AM PDT by IC Ken
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Ah yes, the "Progressives" once again trying to convolute the meanings of words!

They can't touch this one.

20 posted on 10/21/2012 6:04:44 AM PDT by sirchtruth (Freedom is not free.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Obama is a Muslim who uses the cloak of a Black Racist “church” to cover his personal “jihad”. HE chose “Barack Hussein” as his name. It wasn’t his birth name. Hussein is the “Hidden Imam” and Buraq is the name of Mohammad’s flying horse.,


21 posted on 10/21/2012 6:04:47 AM PDT by ZULU (See video: http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2012/09/the-first-siege-of-vienna.html)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

And then again, to some, he’s no kind of Christian at all.


22 posted on 10/21/2012 6:06:29 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Diseases desperate grown are by desperate appliance relieved or not at all.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
“Obama is a progressive Christian who blends the emotional fire of the African-American church, the ecumenical outlook of contemporary Protestantism, and the activism of the Social Gospel, a late 19th-century movement whose leaders faulted American churches for focusing too much on personal salvation while ignoring the conditions that led to pervasive poverty. “

No he isn't. He's a godless, calculating, self serving, lying jackass. Conservative don't somehow ‘own’ religion, GOD does, and conservatives get with Him. That's why it's called “The Right’. Hence reports of blacks re thinking their support for obozo vis a vis deviant marriage.

23 posted on 10/21/2012 6:07:23 AM PDT by TalBlack (Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Yeah, the phony kind who believes Jesus is just a historical figure, that Jesus is NOT the only way to salvation, that believes in same sex marriage and post-birth infanticide.

Suck it CNN commie bastards who spit on the faithful.

Ted Turner openly mocked Catholics with Ash Wednesday crosses in the newsroom.


24 posted on 10/21/2012 6:08:30 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Obama likes to claim credit for getting Osama. Why hasn't he tried Khalid Sheikh Mohammed yet?)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
When I read this passage in Matthew 7, I consider many so-called "Christians":
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23* And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

Jesus says "I NEVER knew you"--not that he "used to know", but "never." And the preceding verses remind be precisely of Obama:

15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. 16* Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? 17* Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. 18* A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. 19* Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. 20* Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

During this presidential election Obama's opposition wants to focus on his "fruits", yet he wants to shift the focus from what he's done (or has not done) and focus on what he wants to do (what he says)--more deceptive promises. Jesus says that a CORRUPT TREE cannot bring forth GOOD FRUIT.

What characterizes the progressive "Christian" is what he thinks he knows. He has replaced the gospel with a social gospel, an incomplete gospel. There is only one gospel (Galatians 1). All the others are false and cannot save.

25 posted on 10/21/2012 6:09:18 AM PDT by nonsporting
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To: ZULU

If Obama be a Christian, then I be da Pope.

The jackass is a Muslim through and through, A Muslim on the Down Low.

Christians don’t wait to go to Church until an election comes up. Christians go to Church at Christmas.
Christians do not wear Muslim rings.
Christians do not have Ramadan dinners at the White House while ignoring the Day of Prayer.
Christians are not in love with hearing the Muslim call to prayer.


26 posted on 10/21/2012 6:11:24 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
It does not occur to these people that Obama’s “Christianity” is not Christianity at all. It's a front for political purposes. “New kind”, “progressive”, seriously? Fools, all of them!
27 posted on 10/21/2012 6:12:38 AM PDT by ryan71
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To: Oldeconomybuyer; Larry Lucido; F15Eagle

One thing for sure, he’s not Latvian Orthodox.


28 posted on 10/21/2012 6:14:17 AM PDT by Gamecock
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

He’s only Society’s Child.


29 posted on 10/21/2012 6:15:00 AM PDT by HomeAtLast (Please proceed, Governor. To the White House.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Yes, he is the wrong king of Christian. The one who gives no evidence of his faith.

By their fruits, we shall know them.


30 posted on 10/21/2012 6:15:49 AM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: FES0844
CNN doesn't believe their own claptrap. Stalinists lie always.

The secular left despises the "superstitious" Christians. They openly mock the notion of God as Creator. They openly mock "your friend in the clouds!", "your invisible friend Jesus".

But the Democrats have come to realize that they will ALWAYS LOSE if they can't win over any religious voters. So they grit their teeth and try to win them over to the argument of "socialist justice". The Democrats started talking about the God Gap after the 2004 loss.

They don't even have to get the majority of religious minded voters to vote Rat, if they can do as they did in 2006 and convince some religious conservatives NOT TO VOTE because of the homosexuals in the GOP ranks ("oooh, culture of corruption!").,

31 posted on 10/21/2012 6:15:49 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Obama likes to claim credit for getting Osama. Why hasn't he tried Khalid Sheikh Mohammed yet?)
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To: nonsporting

Mohammed and Obama are antiChrist figures. They both acknowledge Jesus Christ yet they try to lead the flock astray with denials of His divinity.


32 posted on 10/21/2012 6:16:55 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Obama likes to claim credit for getting Osama. Why hasn't he tried Khalid Sheikh Mohammed yet?)
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To: Paladin2

You better believe I understand his Christian faith. He belongs to the “Undercover Muslim” church.


33 posted on 10/21/2012 6:17:18 AM PDT by JustaCowgirl (Fred Thompson said Obama is treating terrorists "as if they robbed a liquor store.")
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

When he starts going to church with his family, instead of playing Sunday basketball games with his body-man Reggie Love, then I’ll believe it.


34 posted on 10/21/2012 6:18:32 AM PDT by icwhatudo (Low taxes and less spending in Sodom and Gomorrah is not my idea of a conservative victory)
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To: ryan71

I ain’t down with Jeremiah Wright’s church of Goddamn AmeriKKKa.

Barack Obama is a vile human being. Even Oprah left the hate filled Wright’s church because she couldn’t take it anymore.


35 posted on 10/21/2012 6:18:51 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Obama likes to claim credit for getting Osama. Why hasn't he tried Khalid Sheikh Mohammed yet?)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

They can write and spin all they like, but in the end, obama like everyone else will be known by his acts.


36 posted on 10/21/2012 6:23:49 AM PDT by Kakaze (I want The Republic back !)
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To: TalBlack

you credit him with too much. he’s just an average doufous with a team of handlers who keep him on target ~ otherwise he’d be an EEO affirmative action sales rep for Georgia Pacific selling paper for office printers.


37 posted on 10/21/2012 6:25:17 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
I thought I'd heard everything a few weeks ago.

But then I learned that islamo...phobia was the greatest threat to world peace.

Then I knew for a fact I'd heard everything.

But I was wrong.

“He’s a different kind of Christian, and the media and the public awareness needs to reawaken to that fact.”

... and Hitler was just a different kind of Jew.

Ok, now, this time, for the last time, I really really have heard everything.

... reawaken to that fact

Where does the 're' in 'reawaken' come from, were we once awake to that fact and are no longer? Perhaps we were once awake at the time he visited Wright's church for 20 years, but then fell asleep to that fact when Wright mysteriously disappeared from the face of Obama's Earth, after Obama told him, in an apparent reawakening of Christian awareness "Your problem is that you have to be honest."

public awareness needs to reawaken

I also was previously unaware that 'awareness can reawaken' ... awareness is by definition a state of being awake and alert, I had thought. My cat is now not sleeping. Can I re-awaken her? Or even awaken her? I'm learning so much.

Is my mind just becoming clearer, or is the intelligence on the Earth becoming duller? I must re-awaken my and the media's awareness of this fact, for I seek to be an entirely new sort of Christian, unbound by the petty constraints of Christianity, and in transcending Christianity's suggestions, become it's embodiment. Don't need to eat some cracker (dog whistle) to ingest the Body of Christ ... just ignore the tenets entirely, and you're good to go.

How far things drift in 4 years ...

38 posted on 10/21/2012 6:26:39 AM PDT by HannibalHamlinJr
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Black Liberation Theology is based in Marxism.


39 posted on 10/21/2012 6:28:14 AM PDT by MNnice
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
“The kind of faith that Obama articulates is not the sort of Christianity that’s understood by the media or by a large swath of Christians in the U.S.,” says Bass, a progressive Christian

Of course we "understand" it you supercilious twit. We've been doing this for two thousand years now.

We even have a name for his kind of faith: apostasy!

40 posted on 10/21/2012 6:33:29 AM PDT by papertyger (Why did Obama frame private Americans for Benghazi.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Barack Obama is not a Christian, or anything else.

He only worships the guy in the mirror.


41 posted on 10/21/2012 6:34:44 AM PDT by Mrs.Z
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

No No No, God Damn America. White folks greed runs a world in need. All that for a Damn flag.

That President? That Christian?


42 posted on 10/21/2012 6:38:22 AM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: HannibalHamlinJr

Yes, he’s the new kind. The kind that supports throwing a living baby into a trash can.

Allah Akbar.... The kind that celebrates Rahmadan. The kind that hides in Hawaii on a beach so people can’t see him celebrate the birth of Jesus. That kind.

The kind that is raised memorizing the koran.


43 posted on 10/21/2012 6:46:07 AM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

He’s not a Christian. He is a communist (”no God”) and a black separatist with strong sympathies for the middle-eastern ideology cleverly disguised as a religion.


44 posted on 10/21/2012 6:46:07 AM PDT by I want the USA back
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

So are they saying he really took to heart all those hate-filled Wright sermons that previously he was said to have been sleeping through?


45 posted on 10/21/2012 6:46:28 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
I thought I was witnessing CNN slowly circling and eyeing the demographic Fox News recently abandoned -- those on the political right.

But apparently not.

There is a business opportunity out there for a gutsy person.

46 posted on 10/21/2012 6:49:01 AM PDT by Lazamataz (The Pravda Press has gone from 'biased' straight on through to 'utterly bizarre'.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I doubt Obama is a believer because he (and his mentor Wright) cannot say with certainty that Jesus is the only way. There are several quotes to be found where he hem hawed around this acid test of faith: Jesus is the way, the truth, and the life...and every other way isn’t.

This permeates all Scripture. It transcends the gnostic claptrap found in discussions about “right wing” or “progressive” Christianity. Everyone needs the Lord as he really is, not as our intellectual flesh might wish him to be.


47 posted on 10/21/2012 6:51:07 AM PDT by avenir (I'm pessimistic about man, but I'm optimistic about GOD!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I doubt Obama is a believer because he (and his mentor Wright) cannot say with certainty that Jesus is the only way. There are several quotes to be found where he hem hawed around this acid test of faith: Jesus is the way, the truth, and the life...and every other way isn’t.

This permeates all Scripture. It transcends the gnostic claptrap found in discussions about “right wing” or “progressive” Christianity. Everyone needs the Lord as he really is, not as our intellectual flesh might wish him to be.


48 posted on 10/21/2012 6:51:07 AM PDT by avenir (I'm pessimistic about man, but I'm optimistic about GOD!)
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To: Venturer

Muslim on the down low.... That’s funny!!!


49 posted on 10/21/2012 6:52:03 AM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

A hybrid Christian....
CNN and this writer just need to go out of business and just go away!


50 posted on 10/21/2012 6:53:10 AM PDT by conservativesister
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