Skip to comments.New details emerge of deadly attack on US Consulate in Libya
Posted on 10/21/2012 7:23:24 AM PDT by maggief
A credible witness tells Fox News that, prior to the attack, he heard a mob approaching the missions front gate, chanting blood-thirsty slogans, before they broke in. He said it was less like a demonstration and more like a warm-up to battle.
This could explain how others thought, including some I spoke with, that the attack started as a protest.
There were several closed-circuit camera installations.While attackers targeted some, they appear to be intact and could already be supplying key video evidence regarding the start of the attack and the movement of the mob.
What Fox News did hear though, throughout the visit, was the unmistakable hum of surveillance aircraft circling over Benghazi. Some folks most assuredly are listening, watching, waiting and trying to make sense of the still muddled scene down below.
(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...
ABC, last night, went back to the protest angle... saying it was a bunch of angry film critics who spilled over from Egypt. The protesters just happened to be Al Queda-linked with heavy artillery. -ABC’s Luiz Martinez, reporting.
If anyone missed the FOX special on LIbya, it's on Real Clear Politics..
“This could explain how others thought, including some I spoke with, that the attack started as a protest.”
Yeah, everyone brings shoulder fired weapons to a protest.
...creating more peril for Romney in the debate. He walks a fine line in characterizing Libya...
At this point, he should stick to why the Embassy was not protected.
Too much criticism of the President at a time of crisis never plays well, even though Obama has failed miserably in his planning for 9-11 and his response to total failure.
I agree. These reports coming out this weekend are purposeful, to confuse Romney, and get him off his talking points. He need not get into the weeds and create a narrative that Romney “jumped the gun” again.
Just focus on the fact that security was missing (on 9/11) and that the story has changed, almost daily, and no one is coming clean. And that Obama went to Vegas and Letterman etc.
If he becomes accusatory, it could backfire.
Yes, Baier did a good job. He did gloss over a few points though.
Important Revisit: Benghazi Compound Post Attack September 14th
Question: Is there a verified hit counter on the YouTube movie 'clip' (preview, section, snippet) they claim 'went viral'? Some are saying the 'viral' viewership was under 300 hits.
Play the video then.
I do not believe Obama, or anyone in his administration or any news outlet.
Play the video of the attack unedited and let us see for ourselves what happened.
Otherwise I’m going to believe that the president of the united states is a ***damn filthy liar.
That procedure, or rite, isn’t new to Islamic battle. In Macbeth, Shakespeare introduced a brand new word to English: assassinate. The word was taken from the Arabic word for hashish, the drug taken by Islamic killers to give them courage before they raided the camp of the enemy to kill or kidnap its leader. On their way to such an “assassination,” they chanted their intentions. Kipling also referred to it, but my old brain can’t remember where.
“A crowd of 125 heavily armed, community-organized, al-Qaeda movie critics just happened to show up at the US consulate . . .. a ‘5 mortars’ rating.”
Great job..thanks for the links..
can you document that?
Just got this in an email. Don’t know if it is true, but at least I have now heard the names of the real hero’s. The Navy seal’s.
Subject: Bengazhi: Boldly Into the Breach
Boldly Into The Breach
Posted on September 21, 2012
Will the real life story of incredible bravery, and the extreme courage of warriors Glen Doherty and Tyrone Woods be lost just because of Machiavellian politics ?
Updates as more information is coming through. Even if the true story of their heroism casts an uncomfortable light of truth upon the lies told by President Obama and his administration we will tell it. They deserve it.
President Obama implied, quite intentionally, in his Weekly Address that Glen Doherty and Tyrone Woods were part of Ambassador Christopher Steven’s security detail:
“Glen and Tyrone had each served America as Navy SEALs for many years, before continuing their service providing security for our diplomats in Libya. They died as they lived their lives - defending their fellow Americans, and advancing the values that all of us hold dear.
-President Obama (Weekly address)
Sounds good, the only problem is this statement is a total fabrication.
Yes, they were both former Navy Seals, but neither Tyrone nor Glen were part of the Ambassadors official security detail.
No. The truth is: they heard the attack, they heard the gunfire, and despite the danger to themselves they rushed into the breach taking weapons from the frightened Libyan security officials to help protect the American Consulate, Ambassador Stevens and his embassy aide Sean Smith. Both Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty were under no obligation to assist, protect or defend Stevens. They could have bugged out, they didn’t...They ran into the breach. It was, and is, an important enough distinction such that two U.S. officials quickly wanted to tell the truth.
They told the Guardian:
[...] they feared the Obama administration’s scant description of the episode left a misimpression that the two ex-Navy SEALs might have been responsible for the ambassador’s personal safety or become separated from him.
“Woods and Doherty weren’t part of the detail, nor were they personally responsible for the ambassador’s security, but they stepped into the breach when the attacks occurred and their actions saved others lives - and they shouldn’t be lumped in with the security detail,” ...
According to what scant actual information is available the former seal team members, Glen Doherty and Tyrone Woods, appear to have been in Libya because they were contracted by another intelligence office, probably the CIA, to track down the missing surface-to-air missiles from the initial rebel uprising.
During the Gadaffi overthrow massive stockpiles of Libyan weapons including MANPADS and other surface to air missiles were looted from the military storage facilities. Estimates put the number of missing missiles around 20,000.
It appears Doherty and Woods were in Libya to track down those weapons. As a consequence of their visit they were crashed at an annex to the US consulate grounds using it as a safe place to meet, coordinate, and evaluate their ongoing intel. Their location was approximately a half mile from the main consulate compound area.
They were inside an annex building when the main consulate complex came under attack from the Libyan al-Qaeda terrorists. They heard the distant shots and responded to a call for help from the compound itself. Both Woods and Doherty evaluated the assassination attempt, and immediately took up arms to defend Ambassador Stevens.
Their heroism is incredible when you consider what they were facing. Doherty and Woods reached the main compound of the Consulate and evacuated approximately 20 employees. Unfortunately, Ambassador Steven’s aide Sean Smith was already dead when they arrived. Woods and Doherty fought through
the firefight, and took the consulate employees back to the annex building where again they came under another wave of attacks.
Between the initial firefight at the Main Consulate, and at the annex building, for over two hours they were able to fight back against approximately 200 al-Qaeda terrorists, who pre-planned and coordinated the attack to occur in two stages.
The second wave of attacks at the annex brought even more firepower upon them. Yet they held their position providing time for the 20 consulate employees to be rescued. In total for over two hours they held off upwards of 200 attackers, under heavy fire from RPGs, mortars, and at least one 23mm Anti Aircraft gun firing on their position(s) around the consulate grounds and the annex building.
This story must be told. The heroism of Doherty and Woods MUST surface. They deserve it. Unfortunately, because the truth represents a risk to the manipulated narrative of the White House and State Department, it will be up to outsiders to keep the pressure on and force the truth to the surface. If we leave it up to the Administration and the State Department we will probably never know the TRUTH and the heroism of Woods and Doherty will not be fully recognized or appreciated.
These guys died while defending US interests because they were brave patriots who put country ahead of self. We will not let their courage be hidden or diminished. I promise to do all I can to keep their story in the spotlight and provide their family the full measure of appreciation for their bravery.
They deserve it. We will not forget, and will keep fighting for the recognition they deserve.
Brandon Webb is a former Navy SEAL, author of a memoir, “The Red Circle,” and editor-in-chief of SOFREP (Special Operations Forces Report). He served with his best friend, Glen Doherty, at SEAL Team 3, where they were sniper students together. They had just completed a book together, “Navy SEAL Sniper,” which is due out in January.
He Penned this farewell to his friend:
I still can’t believe you punched out early on me, but glad to hear from the guys that you fought like a hero-no surprise there.
You should know, your efforts resulted in the rescue of over 20 Department of State personnel. They are alive today because of yours and Ty’s heroic action.
I know you hate funerals as much as I do but, the service in Winchester was humbling and inspiring. The people of Boston are amazing. I had to choke back the tears as me and the boys rolled through town, and thousands of people lined the streets to honor a hero and our friend and teammate. Seeing American citizens united around a hero, if only for a brief moment, restored my faith in humanity and that there’s other things more important in life than killing each other.
Your family is and was amazing. Their poise, patience and the dignity they displayed was incredible to witness. Your mom, Barbara, stood by stoically for hours to ensure she greeted everyone who came to pay their respects. She was an inspiration to everyone who watched. Seeing your dad, his sadness and how proud he was of you, made me give him a big hug, and reminded me to work harder at patching things up with my own father.
Greg delivered one of the best talks I’ve ever heard under the most difficult of situations. What an amazing brother; I hope to get to know him better. His speech made me reflect on my own life choices and how important
our relationship with friends and family are. I’m going to work harder at embracing my friends and family the way you always did.
Katie gave such an awesome toast at the wake with all the Bub lessons to live by, I smirked secretly to myself knowing that I’ve heard them all before and will never forget. “Drive it like it’s stolen!” and “Kids don’t need store-bought toys, get them outdoors!” and all the rest.
Your nephews are amazing and so well-behaved. Great parents of course.
F.Y.I., I told them I’d take them flying when they come out west. They were beaming when I described all the crazy flying adventures me and their uncle went on. I told them how you and I would fly with my own kids and take turns letting them sit on our laps to get a few minutes at the controls. I’ll do it up right and let them each have a go at the controls.
Sean has been steadfast in his support role and has handled everything thrown at him. Helping him this last week really showed me why he was such a close friend of yours. He’s solid, and I look forward to his friendship for
years to come. You chose well having him execute your will, he’s solid. We are all dedicated, as you explicitly indicated to us all, to throw you the biggest eff-ing party we can, and to celebrate your life as well as our own. Done deal; Sean and I are on it.
Most of SEAL Team 3 GOLF platoon showed up in Boston. It was great to see how guys like Tommy B. just made stuff happen, no matter what was needed. Things just got handled like men of action handle them, no questions asked and no instructions needed - just get it done in true SEAL fashion.
One by one the Tridents were firmly pounded into to the mahogany as the guys paid their respect. Mike and I handed the plank to your mom, choked back tears, and kissed her on the cheek. We both told her how much you’ll be missed by us all.
Afterwards, the Team Guys, Elf, Steve, Sean and others tipped a few back in our honor. In good Irish fashion we drank whiskey from Sean’s “What Jesus Wouldn’t Do” flask, hugged each other like brothers and said goodbye, each in our own way.
We are planning the yearly surf trip to Baja in your memory. We share Steve Jobs’ philosophy on religion and tolerance, but if you can arrange it, please talk to whomever and fire up a good south swell for me and the boys.
My kids will miss their Uncle Glen. I told them it’s O.K. to cry (we all had a good one together) and to be sad but not for too long. You wouldn’t want that. They will grow older, and like the rest of us, be better human beings for having known you.
You definitely lived up to the words of Hunter S. Thompson:
“Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming “Wow! What a ride!”
When I skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke myself I’ll expect to see your smiling face handing me a cold beer. See you on the other side, brother.
You are missed by many, my brother.
Early news reports claimed that an anti-Muslim movie sparked the violence. This could not have legitimately been the cause of spontaneous riots. That evening, some 15 hours after the Egyptian protests began, the Innocence of Muslims YouTube trailer, posted way back in July, had garnered only 1,000 views. It should have been viral by then, but it is doubtful that many Muslims had even heard of the film.
At around 6 a.m. on September 11th, well before any protests were launched, the U.S. Embassy in Cairo issued the following statement, now disavowed by the State Department:
The Embassy of the United States in Cairo condemns the continuing efforts by misguided individuals to hurt the religious feelings of Muslimsas we condemn efforts to offend believers of all religions. Today, the 11th anniversary of the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks on the United States, Americans are honoring our patriots and those who serve our nation as the fitting response to the enemies of democracy. Respect for religious beliefs is a cornerstone of American democracy. We firmly reject the actions by those who abuse the universal right of free speech to hurt the religious beliefs of others.
They sent out supporting tweets at 5:53 and 6:10 a.m. stating, Respect for religious beliefs is a cornerstone of American democracy, and US Embassy condemns religious incitement.
I googled an excerpt and hit the Conservative Treehouse (again, see post above).
There were protests going on in Cairo on Sept 11th, CNN interviewed and had video of it. The protests were over The Blind Sheikh. There are signs, flags and banners to prove there was an organized protest for the release of the Blind Sheikh. CNN decided not to give us that proof and video but our Canadian neighbor gave it to us:
What happened in Libya had nothing to do with the video-NOTHING.
OUR GOVERNMENT AND MEDIA CAUSED MOST ALL OF THIS BY RUNNING WITH A KNOWN LIE. Embassies of ours and others were attacked, people hurt and killed, tons of property damage, shame brought to us— all over a stupid dam* lie.
Very sad...but they are in a wondrous place now.
That’s Medal of Honor stuff right there.
Yeah, and they always go out with those weapons to protest a film after dark.
Thanks for posting this excellent informative report by Greg Palkot.
The truth lies among all 20 of those people who were saved. Someone is going to have to break and tell the truth. They would not be alive if it were not for Tyrone and Glen. Someone will talk!
You are welcome. It’s important to keep this story up front, and post any new details as they come available.
There was a hint this morning on FOX about Stevens in on some kind of ARMS deal!! hmmmmmmm
Will we EVER know the TRUTH??
OMG!! Kind of puts to lie that Steven died of SMOKE INHALATION!!!
The real catalyst for the global Islamic riots remains Obama and the DNC bragging about bagging Osama.
(A quick Blackberry grab off the web)
By ED HUSAIN
Published: September 19, 2012
“Obama, Obama, we are all Osama” the crowd chanted outside the U.S. Embassy in Cairo on Sept. 11. The slogan also found its way to Tunis, where a mob attacked the embassy as well, and the chant was taken up in Qatar and other Muslim countries.
The MB and AQ in Egypt fomented the Sept 11, 2012 mob riots to provide cover for the paramilitary assault on the US Consulate in Benghazi, which had been under observation for some time before 9-11-2012.
After the first news of the North African riots the rest of the Islamic world followed in kind as they always have. Mindless savages taking bloody minded offense at cloud formations.
I’ve deflated several local Dems who have some small remnant of integrity and followed up by web searches of their own to find some truth.
It’s important to keep slamming the with this first lie by the Administration from which the remainders of the cover up stem.
Of course any reason is useless against those that hold the idea that Big Bird’s lady parts are under assault.
I only guessed at the "5 mortar" movie rating, so the answer is 'no'.
are there any Americans among the 20 saved? Are there any reports of their nationalities at all? Is the press asking about these 20 people?
Not sure who’s blood covers the toilet, or bloody hand print smeared down the wall. Disturbing as hell, isn’t it? Who’s DNA?
Did the FBI do a DNA sample on the blood on the toilet and bidet??? Makes me think that Stevenes did NOT die os Smoke Inhalation!!!!
It;s curious that the reporter found his diary in his bedroomsitiing on the chair and the bedroom is hardly messed up....certainly not like the other rooms.....weird.....hmmmmm.
it says they were State Department Personnel... at least SOME of them should be Americans, and regardless, if somebody saves your LIFE, and you don't acknowledge it, in my opinion, their effort was wasted!