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Dan McGrath: Voter ID: 'It should be easy to vote, but hard to cheat'
pioneer press ^ | 10-20-12 | dan mcgrath

Posted on 10/21/2012 8:46:19 AM PDT by TurboZamboni

Most Minnesotans are probably not aware that our state has recently seen more convictions for voter fraud than any other state since 1936.

The overwhelming majority of those convictions stemmed from felons (rapists, murderers, gangsters, drug dealers, et al) voting while still under the supervision of the Department of Corrections.

Thanks to a non-governmental organization, we brought some ineligible voters to justice, with 200 convictions since the 2008 election.

Prosecuting felons who willfully voted while ineligible is difficult to do under Minnesota's election laws, since it must be proven not only that the person voted while ineligible, but also that he or she knew it was a crime to do so. Most provable cases of voting by ineligible people went unprosecuted after the contentious 2008 election, simply because the ineligible voters said, "I didn't know." The convictions, however, were of people who were proven in courts of law to have deliberately committed fraud.

Convictions are just the tip of the iceberg.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Minnesota
KEYWORDS: felons; franken; fraud; id; minnesota; voter
Remember pre-2003 when Minnesotans were considered by the left to be too stupid to handle carrying firearms?

Now the left claim we’re MORE HONEST than any other state! We have no need for voter ID like other states!

1 posted on 10/21/2012 8:46:26 AM PDT by TurboZamboni
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To: TurboZamboni

I’ve seen the following called voter suppression:

1. Requiring a picture ID

2. Signs warning fraud is illegal

3. Poll watchers.

4. Not letting illegal aliens and felons vote

2 posted on 10/21/2012 8:53:21 AM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: TurboZamboni
Isn't Minnestoa the place where they elected AN ACTUAL CLOWN to The Senate?

Minnesota Senator Al Franken

3 posted on 10/21/2012 8:55:59 AM PDT by Mr. K ("The only thing the World would hate more than the USA in charge is the USA NOT in charge")
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To: TigerClaws

NY Democrats Go On Trial For Massive Voter Fraud Case

So far four democrats have pleaded guilty in the case. The Times Union reported:

12 former officials indicted for voter fraud

Ind. Dem quits in fake-signature flap

Activist Nativo Lopez pleads guilty to voter fraud

ACORN leader avoids prison for voter fraud conspiracy

Van Hollen charges five with election fraud

Oh, this can’t be. It’s impossible and could NEVER happen here...

4 posted on 10/21/2012 8:57:55 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: TurboZamboni

With the computer techonology available today it shouldn’t be hard to keep the voter registration roles purged of felons, deaths, name changes, address changes, etc. The persons name who is involved could be sent to the voter registrar for checking against the registered voter roles and appropriate actions taken if found to be registered. It would take some time to set the system/process up but once done it would help immensely in keeping the roles purged. JMO

5 posted on 10/21/2012 9:03:36 AM PDT by deport
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To: deport

3 dropped as voter registration workers after felonies flagged

apparently WI figured out how to do it...

6 posted on 10/21/2012 9:10:22 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: TigerClaws

Simple solution.

Voter ID.

Purple ink on index finger.

No early voting.

Would be no fraud.

7 posted on 10/21/2012 9:13:37 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: Mr. K

Not exactly. Franken won the recount, with the assistance of a scumbag Minnesota Sec. of State and several boxes of ballots that were “found” in Democratic stronghold districts after the election.

8 posted on 10/21/2012 9:14:05 AM PDT by Flatus I. Maximus (OVERTHROW OBAMA!)
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To: TurboZamboni

Its already too easy to vote.

9 posted on 10/21/2012 9:14:45 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: TurboZamboni

How can “I didn’t know” work as an excuse. I would be VERY surprised if they weren’t warned when released or paroled “You are not eligible to vote until this date: _____”

If such warnings aren’t provided, then the Dept of Corrections is VERY stupid.

Their release papers should clearly put it down in writing — “You are eligible to begin voting on ______ . You will be breaking the law if you vote before then and will be subject to arrest and conviction for voter fraud. s/ _____________ . “

How hard is it to do that?

10 posted on 10/21/2012 9:16:51 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: TurboZamboni; Hunton Peck; Diana in Wisconsin; P from Sheb; Shady; DonkeyBonker; Wisconsinlady; ...

Minnesota lesson for Wisconsin on voter fraud.

FReep Mail me if you want on, or off, this Wisconsin interest ping list.

The lesson here is to vote straight Republican down ticket to give Scott Walker the resources to change our voting laws.

1) Expunge registration at the polls.

2) Restore photo voter ID.

3) Replace the GAB.

11 posted on 10/21/2012 11:14:45 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: TurboZamboni; MplsSteve
Photo ID alone will not fix the felon problem, but the amendment does. The eligibility verification requirement means we'll use available databases to prevent felons and other ineligible voters, such as non-citizens, from voting. The felon problem is just the tip of the iceberg, and the Voter ID amendment is designed to address the iceberg itself.
12 posted on 10/21/2012 3:15:11 PM PDT by rhema ("Break the conventions; keep the commandments." -- G. K. Chesterton)
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13 posted on 10/23/2012 8:57:59 PM PDT by MplsSteve (General Mills is pro-gay marriage! Boycott their products!)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

I’ve noticed that’s the new Dem talking point here in MN.
Dems only count a person voting while impersonating another as “fraud” now.

Felons voting doesn’t seem to matter to them now (we have Dems actually trying to pass laws here to allow felons to legally vote)

My conclusion is they think it’s fine to allow felons to vote NOW, otherwise they’d tighten the law to exclude being able to claim
Ignorance of the law as a valid claim to avoid prosecution.

How many laws have you ever heard of where you can avoid prosecution by claiming “I didn’t know it was illegal” ?

14 posted on 10/25/2012 11:01:58 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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