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How Romney Should Address the Libya Debate Question
Vanity | 10/21/12 | Me

Posted on 10/21/2012 5:43:58 PM PDT by PAR

When Schieffer asks the question (regardless how he puts it or how he might try to frame it in order to help Obama), I think he should start out by saying the following:


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Romney has an opportunity blow this campaign wide open if he plays it right tomorrow night regarding Benghazi. Given his recent rise in the polls, it might be tempting to play it safe. I say that is a big mistake. Obama’s negligence regarding security, the resulting American deaths, and his subsequent dishonesty regarding what happened has the potential to impact the voting decisions of undecided low information voters. There will be millions of people watching on Monday night who have not been following this scandal closely and, who, if Romney holds Obama accountable, could turn decisively against Obama. Do you go for the kill shot or do you sit back and hope the other guy doesn’t get lucky?

Romney could play it safe, soft pedal the issue, and not hold Obama accountable. I don’t believe this course of action makes sense under any scenario, but it could be argued that if he had a commanding lead in the battleground states that a relatively conservative approach might be preferable. It goes without saying that he does not have a commanding lead in all of the battleground states. The second choice is to aggressively hold Obama accountable for both the lack of security in Benghazi and the resulting cover-up. The question is how to go about successfully accomplishing the latter choice without coming across as boorish or overly aggressive and off-putting.

When Schieffer asks the question (regardless how he puts it or how he might try to frame it in order to help Obama), I think he should start out by saying the following:

“Well, Bob, as you are aware, what happened at Benghazi continues to receive a lot of attention in the media well over a month after the incident not only because this was the first time since 1979 that one of our Ambassadors was murdered but also because the Administration’s account of what happened has been subject to continued modification, leading many Americans and many in the news media to believe that a cover-up has taken place. (now cite several media sources, preferably progressive media outlets that have discussed the possibility of a cover-up).”

“In order to understand why some are alleging a cover-up, let’s briefly review the facts so we can better understand how we got to where we are today.”

1) (Cite the several security breaches (and their dates) that occurred in the last 12 months.)

2) (Cite the various people/times that additional security was requested, but denied – always say that “the administration” refused or removed “necessary” security)

3) “On 9/11, I REPEAT, ON 9/11 a terrorist attack took place on our Benhazi facility that resulted in the deaths of 4 Americans, including our Libyan Ambassador, Chris Stevens.

4) “On 9/12 and even before then, the CIA and other sources within the State Department made the administration aware that the attack was not related to any demonstration (there was no demonstration) and that attack was a terrorist attack”

5) On 9/12, President Obama gave a speech where he decried a youtube video, made a comment about 9/11/01, and made a generic comment that “No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation”. Note that, contrary to the President’s contention in the last debate, he did NOT, during this speech specifically label the Benghazi attack a “terror attack”

6) The American people were led to believe by the President’s spokesperson Jay Carney, Susan Rice, the President himself and other surrogates that the attack resulted from a spontaneous demonstration stemming from a youtube video. The President himself was asked several times – on the View and on David Letterman whether the attack was a terror attack. He refused to say that it was. Also, he mentioned the youtube video multiple times when he addressed the U.N.

7) It was only after x days and after incontrovertible testimony from x,y, and z that the administration was forced to admit that the attack was in fact a terrorist attack.

Given these facts, here is the question American people should demand and answer to: Did President Obama call it an act of terror in the last debate and then mislead the country for two weeks by claiming that it was a spontaneous reaction to the anti-Muslim movie? Or did he not call it terror on Sept. 12 and lie to the voters during the second debate when he claimed that he did refer to the attack as a terror attack in his Sept. 12 speech?

Any way you look at it, it appears the President has been dishonest. The question is why? What would the motivation be to deceive the American people regarding the true nature of the attack on Benghazi on 9/11/2012? There are two reasons:

1) First, the Ambassador and several others had indicated multiple times that additional security was needed and there was ample evidence in the form of several security breaches to back up their request. The administration refused these requests for additional security and now 4 Americans are dead as a result. We have 4 Americans dead because this administration refused the security necessary to insure their safety

2) A successful terror attack immediately on the heels of the democratic convention undermines the President’s claims regarding his “successful” foreign policy initiatives, particularly as it relates to Osama bin Laden and Al Qaeda.”

As I have said before, Romney needs to make sure that he gets the last word in on this issue. He should be able to do this – he has the facts on his side. If necessary in order to not appear overly pushy or aggressive, he should say “Bob, that is a very important question and I will get to it shortly, but because the nature of the Libya issue is so vitally important for Americans to fully understand, I must respond….” Then he MUST point out how Obama has not addressed the specific issues he has raised and he must say “The American people have to decide for themselves why their President won’t give them a straight answer to a straight question”.

1 posted on 10/21/2012 5:44:08 PM PDT by PAR
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To: PAR

It’s a matter of gross negligence. Negligence kills.


2 posted on 10/21/2012 5:47:33 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: PAR

How about - - Now, Mr. President, as I was saying before I was so rudely interrupted at the end of our last debate, you’ve now stated - twice - that on the day after the Libya attack which killed four Americans including our Libyan ambassador you called it a terrorist act, a fact since confirmed by the CIA and State Department. Can you explain then to the American people, indeed the people of the world, why you went before the United Nations two weeks later and six times told us that this outrage was actually caused by some obscure videotape which apparently very few had even seen?


3 posted on 10/21/2012 5:52:07 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: PAR

Obama has been employing an “I said this. No, I said that. We knew this. No, we knew that” strategy to purposefully confuse the voter. His media buddies are in on it. I have faith that Romney will be prepared to succinctly and plainspokenly destroy this odious, demagoguing, embarrassment of a president.


4 posted on 10/21/2012 5:53:33 PM PDT by BlueStateRightist
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To: Gene Eric

This is way too long. Better to let this kind of detail play out in the public square.

That’s not to say Benghazi does not deserve attention at the debate, just not the kind of comprehensive attention you propose. Something pithier and directly accusatory of administration incompetence. I’d focus on the withdrawal of the security attachment in the days leading up to the attack, despite pleas that the security not be withdrawn.


5 posted on 10/21/2012 5:53:37 PM PDT by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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To: Intolerant in NJ

He needs to clearly state:
Americans, do you feel safer today than 4 years ago?


6 posted on 10/21/2012 5:56:40 PM PDT by jonose
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To: John Valentine; PAR

>> I’d focus on the withdrawal of the security attachment in the days leading up to the attack,

Agreed; hence, my short comment regarding negligence.

>> This is way too long. Better to let this kind of detail play out in the public square.

I suppose you meant to address PAR.


7 posted on 10/21/2012 5:57:37 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: PAR

great points.


8 posted on 10/21/2012 5:59:44 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie
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To: PAR
As a businessman, Romney knows there is a hot button.

He will tap it to see if Obama bites.

If Obama doesn't bite...Romney will move on.

Successful bidness is based on Sun Tzu's Art of War.

It is logical...not emotional.

Obama on the other hand...is all emotion. Narcissism is based on emotion...and Obama is a pathological narcissist. He will bite the bait...and he will lose.

His mental illness is not an asset...it is a handicap.

9 posted on 10/21/2012 6:01:13 PM PDT by RoosterRedux (Obama: "If you've got a business -- you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen.")
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To: PAR

“It wasn’t a lack of intelligence it was a lack of common sense”....thats all he has to say, repeat as necessary.

Same can be said of Egypt...allowing free elections to moslums without thinking they would turn out like they did next door in Gaza or Lebanon.


10 posted on 10/21/2012 6:01:44 PM PDT by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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To: PAR

He should say he will not deceive the American people like was done in Benghazi. To blame a military attack on a video was the height of arrogance.

Pray for America


11 posted on 10/21/2012 6:04:54 PM PDT by bray (Islam- A billion medieval savages can't be wrong!)
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To: TomasUSMC

If Zero answers first, which would be the correct order, Romney needs to First ask Zero if that is his “Optimal” answer then proceed as above.


12 posted on 10/21/2012 6:05:33 PM PDT by Snuph ("give me Liberty...")
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To: Gene Eric
Mitt needs to ask the follow up question:

Why do you call the Ft Hood shooting
"workplace violence" and not TERRORISM" ??


13 posted on 10/21/2012 6:06:03 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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To: PAR

We need a LEADER who is not afraid to say ‘terrorist attack’. We need a LEADER who doesn’t play word games like “The future does not belong to those who insult Islam”. Further, we need a LEADER WHO WOULD NEVER SAY SOMETHING LIKE THAT! We need a LEADER who RETAINS NOT REMOVES all references to Islam from counter-terrorism manuals. We need a LEADER who realizes that the only way to FIGHT the war on terror is to ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THERE IS ONE and CLEARLY IDENTIFY WHO THE ENEMY IS (LIKE BUSH DID). We need a LEADER who understands that the ‘Muslim Brotherhood’ is a TERRORIST ORGANIZATION and that Egypt and Libya are WORSE OFF than before. We need a LEADER who DOESN’T wage wars without consent from Congress. We need a LEADER who promotes PEACE THROUGH STRENGTH, not the failed ideology of PEACE THROUGH SURRENDER like 0bama did in Iraq and Afghanistan.


14 posted on 10/21/2012 6:10:15 PM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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To: Snuph

The phrase “bump in the road” needs to be worked into the discussion, too.


15 posted on 10/21/2012 6:13:23 PM PDT by BlueStateRightist
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To: PAR

what about the fact that to this day, the FT HOOD shooting has been labeled a “workplace act of violence” rather than terror, even though the accused has stated it was an act of Jihad.


16 posted on 10/21/2012 6:14:02 PM PDT by BereanBrain
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To: Intolerant in NJ
and he might as well conclude with....Bob....run the tapes!!........let the American people decide if he called it a terrorist attack the day after and for many days after!
17 posted on 10/21/2012 6:17:15 PM PDT by M-cubed
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

Well said. Also include the billions in aid to Countries that harbor and support terror.


18 posted on 10/21/2012 6:17:42 PM PDT by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

I actually watched Lindsey Graham on Fox News Sunday with Wallace.

I’ll tell you what, I’m not a big LG fan, but he laid out the details of Libya into a scathing story. I thought, ‘damn, if Romney does something like that it’s over for O’.


19 posted on 10/21/2012 6:17:46 PM PDT by BuckeyeGOP
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To: BereanBrain

Americans won’t tolerate a loser.....(a little George Patton lingo).


20 posted on 10/21/2012 6:18:37 PM PDT by Kahuna
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To: UriĀ’el-2012
I wrote an entire paragraph and missed your excellent point.. Mitt MUST talk about the Ft. Hood terrorist attack being labeled 'workplace violence' by 0bama & Co. Major Hasan's personal calling card had 'SoA' on it (Soldier of Allah). It's pretty clear he wasn't a soldier of ours.

Political correctness of the 0bama administration got Ambassador Stevens killed. Hillary's 'showing normalcy in Benghazi' instead of ramping up security was the PC that cost Stevens his life.

21 posted on 10/21/2012 6:18:48 PM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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To: BereanBrain

Maybe work in the fact that it is impermissible to say “war on terror” but no there is no problem with “war on women”


22 posted on 10/21/2012 6:19:07 PM PDT by PAR
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To: BuckeyeGOP

I watched it too.. I could tell Lindsey had that speech memorized but Mitt can too.


23 posted on 10/21/2012 6:20:35 PM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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To: PAR

Is the maker of said video still in jail?


24 posted on 10/21/2012 6:22:28 PM PDT by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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To: PAR

Did you read this last Friday that the 0bama White House IMMEDIATELY issued a ‘terrorist attack’ statement.. FOR THE CAR BOMBING IN BEIRUT. I think 0bama reserves that term only when it’s Muslims that get killed but not Americans? And I say that seriously.


25 posted on 10/21/2012 6:22:43 PM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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To: TomasUSMC

Yes. Almost one month and counting. Ssshhhh. Media isn’t talking about it. His next court date is 3 days AFTER the election. Sssshhhh...


26 posted on 10/21/2012 6:24:54 PM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

Yes I saw that - thought about working it into my post, but it was getting overly long as it was. If Romney can work it in I think he should.


27 posted on 10/21/2012 6:25:06 PM PDT by PAR
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To: PAR

Also, as part of the Cover Up, Obama had an American arrested for criticizing “the prophet Mohammed.”


28 posted on 10/21/2012 6:28:32 PM PDT by UnwashedPeasant
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To: PAR

Good point. Romney needs to frame it as “AMERICA HAS BEEN DESPERATE FOR YOU NOT TO DRAG YOUR FEET WHEN IT COMES TO SAYING ‘WAR ON TERROR’!!.. OUT WITH IT, MR. PRESIDENT.. SAY IT.. SAYYYYYYY ITTTT!!!!”


29 posted on 10/21/2012 6:29:12 PM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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To: BuckeyeGOP

When Lindsey Graham is on your side he is very, very good. But, he can really rile us when he holds the opposite view.

But, today he was great.


30 posted on 10/21/2012 6:31:04 PM PDT by WHATNEXT?
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to me, Romneys gotta pound the fact that the British had pulled out...the Red Cross had pulled out.I mean..cmon, theres your clue right there. Id love to have someone interview the Britsh Ambassador,,surely him and Stevens talked. Could be devastating. You just know theres more really being covered up. This attack lasted 6 hours...bet they were pleading for help. Treasonous.


31 posted on 10/21/2012 6:34:25 PM PDT by basalt
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To: Intolerant in NJ
" How about - - Now, Mr. President, as I was saying before I was so rudely interrupted at the end of our last debate "

BINGO !

Put the Benghazi issue back in Obama's lap and at the same time put the spotlight on the media's bias and collusionary efforts to help Obama get re-elected..
32 posted on 10/21/2012 6:36:10 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

maybe the maker of the movie about the killing of George Bush should be talked about?


33 posted on 10/21/2012 6:37:21 PM PDT by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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To: PAR
I think Mr Romney should use humor to show Zero's lack of experience. While showing his own charm, he should assure the American people that He and Ann will not be taking separate jets to the same destination. Romney should use all of the blunders from Zero and The Dims in his answers in a humorous way. Describe Zero as asleep at the wheel if he is even at the wheel and not out on the back 9. Promise the American people he will attend the security briefings rather than be surfing on his Ipad/blackberry.

Romney should subtly remind Americans how lame and amateurish Zero is and how dangerous that is for America and Americans.

34 posted on 10/21/2012 6:37:29 PM PDT by Snuph ("give me Liberty...")
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To: Intolerant in NJ

“How about - - Now, Mr. President, as I was saying before I was so rudely interrupted at the end of our last debate, you’ve now stated - twice - that on the day after the Libya attack which killed four Americans including our Libyan ambassador you called it a terrorist act, a fact since confirmed by the CIA and State Department.”

I think he would be rudely interrupted by Hussein and the “moderator” to prevent him from saying this.

Then Hussein and the “moderator” spend 10 minutes repeating the earlier lies and blaming Hillary without admitting anything that would alienate the hardcore leftists.


35 posted on 10/21/2012 6:39:39 PM PDT by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: Gene Eric

You may have good points to put forward in a speech... but, in a debate — you must be simple and clear. Make things complicated and you just confuse people.


36 posted on 10/21/2012 6:40:48 PM PDT by vortigern
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To: PAR
Have read a couple accounts where our men called for help for EIGHT hours instead of the initially reported six. This is inexcusable! Romney needs to bring this up. We had the assets. But we had no CIC.

During the NATO bombing of Libya we had so many aircraft parked on Sicily that a small dog could not have walked between them. Now we can't even muster two fast movers to assist our people? Something really stinks here.

37 posted on 10/21/2012 6:49:35 PM PDT by donozark (I was a Vietnam Veteran before it was popular...)
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To: PAR

Excellent Post. One of the best I’ve read on here in a long time. Hope the Romney campaign sees this.


38 posted on 10/21/2012 6:58:00 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: PAR

You have some good ideas.

He was pretty lame the last debate. He better be PREPARED this time and go in for the kill.

All Obama has to do is kill another week+ and he is home. Now is the time.


39 posted on 10/21/2012 7:00:02 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is still a liberal. Just watch him. (Obama-ney Care ))
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To: PAR

He can maybe add in something about budgeting for Chevy Volts and charging stations in Austria as being a higher priority in the State Department’s budget. If 0bama tries to say that that was outside his control, Romney can then ask why 0bama hasn’t demanded public hearings on the matter and a very public firing of the State Department employee responsible for misallocating the resources.

We all know 0bama is the “brains” behind this snafu and he needs to go down for it, then get prosecuted. He thinks he’ll be retiring in Hawaii, but I want his @ss in Kansas. Fort Leavenworth to be specific.


40 posted on 10/21/2012 7:16:06 PM PDT by Two Kids' Dad (((( America or 0bama. You can't choose both. ))))
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To: Two Kids' Dad
"He can maybe add in something about budgeting..."

How about no federal budget passed at all.

41 posted on 10/21/2012 7:56:04 PM PDT by hummingbird (Lather, Rinse........BUT DO NOT REPEAT - REPEAT IS A WASTE - A SCAM!)
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To: WHATNEXT?

light in the loafers lindsey is just ticked off because Obama didn’t give aid to his down low brother...imo


42 posted on 10/21/2012 7:58:11 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: PAR

The main points I would cover:

1. Loss of life
2. Loss of intelligence
3. Loss of IDs and passport making equipment
4. Exposure of/death of any assets that were assisting us
5. Makes recruiting of other assets in other locations much more difficult, because they can’t be assured that their id will be safeguarded

In light of bradley manning/wikileaks/libya embassy/egyptian embassy, I doubt we could recruit anyone with any sense to help us.


43 posted on 10/21/2012 7:59:55 PM PDT by ChiefJayStrongbow
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To: PAR

I would ask why two Countries the US liberated, Egypt and Liyba, and have poured billions of dollars into those countries, have now turned on the US.

0bama maintains his run of picking losers


44 posted on 10/21/2012 8:00:36 PM PDT by Steven Tyler
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To: Gene Eric

Try this on for size..
Mr President, I believe the reason your administration is in a box is because YOU now know, we had no business being involved in Libya or the Arab spring in the first place, and now the whole place has blown up in our faces.. It will take me years to straighten out when I replace you in Jan 2013


45 posted on 10/21/2012 8:05:15 PM PDT by carlo3b (Less Government, more Fiber..)
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To: PAR

When Obama jumps in touting his ‘investigation’ Mitt needs to nail him by pointing out the FBI didn’t go to Bengahzi until two weeks later, because they didn’t think it was safe for them there. It wasn’t hard for them to figure out. Not they were being pushed there very hard. Multiple news organizations searched the site before the FBI arrived. I wish in the last debate Mitt had complemented Candy for ‘her side’ getting there before the FBI. I don’t that line would work with CBS’s Schieffer.


46 posted on 10/21/2012 8:20:13 PM PDT by JohnBovenmyer (Obama been Liberal. Hope Change!)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
If I recall correctly, that was a Christian area in Beirut, not a Muslim area.
47 posted on 10/21/2012 9:40:46 PM PDT by dglang
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To: PAR

Here’s a question Romney should ask President Obama....http://movieclips.com/S3nE-witness-for-the-prosecution-movie-a-chronic-and-habitual-liar/66.8/76.51/


48 posted on 10/21/2012 9:50:36 PM PDT by Beave Meister (Die Hard Cubs Fan.....if it takes forever.)
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