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Proposition 37: Mandatory labeling of genetically engineered food
KABC TV Los Angelos ^ | 10/05/2012 | Robert Holguin

Posted on 10/21/2012 8:06:01 PM PDT by RushingWater

GLENDALE, Calif. (KABC) -- Proposition 37 is a measure to require mandatory labeling of genetically engineered food. There are two sides to this contentious issue.

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I would vote for Proposition 37. Scary stuff. This article is interesting but FR wouldn't let me post it since its from Huff Post (I'm no fan either of Huff Post). It states Russia has suspended all imports of GMO corn: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ocean-robbins/gmo-california-vote_b_1955563.html
1 posted on 10/21/2012 8:06:09 PM PDT by RushingWater
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To: RushingWater

YAY!!!!
Go SoCal!

We would VERY MUCH LIKE TO KNOW EXACTLY WHAT WE ARE EATING!!

As California goes, especially in this case...so goes the Country!

F**k Michael Taylor !
Head of the FDA and Former scumbag DEM contibutor from scum sucking virus/fungal/bacteria producing MONSANTO seed!

Did I make myself clear?

These are EVIL people!


2 posted on 10/21/2012 8:12:04 PM PDT by acapesket
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To: RushingWater
Poll finds Prop. 37 is likely to pass

Consumers should be provided relevant information about the products that are for sale. I hope it passes.

4 posted on 10/21/2012 8:23:03 PM PDT by Will88
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To: RushingWater

How has Greenpeace and Fiends of Earth so brain washed even people on FR? Mainly, again, it based on emotion and not science. It not a coincidence that all the left wing websites and the MSM are promoting this proposition. Very sad that we have FR people promoting it.


5 posted on 10/21/2012 8:25:02 PM PDT by Aussiebabe
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To: bboop

I was interested in the response from FR - part of me is laissez faire but I do believe there needs to be some food regulation laws that generally keep sellers honest. I don’t believe Monsanto is interested in healthy food and this is one way to push back on their ruthless monopoly.


6 posted on 10/21/2012 8:25:48 PM PDT by RushingWater
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To: bboop

I believe that people should have a choice in terms of what they consume.

I believe that all products should list “Country of origin”.
I believe that ,since there are several biological tests showing possible side effects of Genetically Modified Foods by independent laboratories, they should be identified as such .


7 posted on 10/21/2012 8:27:55 PM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt
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To: bboop
This may be one area where “regulation” is good. That is mandating labeling of products. Let the consumer decide if he wants to buy cheaper GMO products vs. more expensive non-GMO or organic products.
8 posted on 10/21/2012 8:29:01 PM PDT by joe212
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To: Aussiebabe

You should watch Food Inc where Monsanto shuts down a local seed cleaner. It is a tragedy, went all the way to the supreme court. Again, Monsanto has spent $7.1 million. Why doesn’t Monsanto test their GMO food longer than 90 days?

Are you aware that one GMO process is to produce food that produces its own insecticides which you then in turn ingest and they can call it “natural”?


9 posted on 10/21/2012 8:30:07 PM PDT by RushingWater
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To: RushingWater

Our family is voting NO NO NO! NO more GOVERNMENT control!


10 posted on 10/21/2012 8:33:42 PM PDT by pollywog ("O Thou who changest not, abide with me.".......)
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To: pollywog

Either I screwed up or my post has been deleted...shocking not!

You may choose to feed your “family” whatever you wish, choice is an American value.

Nowhere in the Constitution of the United States of America is there an “article” claiming that we the People must consume genetically modified/bacteria/fungal pesticidal food grown from seed that comes from a Company that has been systematically overtaking the “seed “ industry since the late 70’s.

We just want to know what’s in our food and have a choice.

You feed your family and I will feed mine, both knowing what we are doing.


11 posted on 10/21/2012 9:08:06 PM PDT by acapesket
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To: Aussiebabe

I believe in transparency. Labeling of foods is a good idea. I want to know the country of origin and what is in it.


12 posted on 10/21/2012 9:10:09 PM PDT by BipolarBob (G Orwell was an optimist it seems.)
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To: RushingWater

“Operation Soylent Green”?


13 posted on 10/21/2012 9:12:07 PM PDT by BipolarBob (G Orwell was an optimist it seems.)
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To: acapesket

Vote Yes on 37


14 posted on 10/21/2012 9:30:05 PM PDT by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: pollywog

on this one you need to vote yes. Monsanto is a bigger monster than the government. Do a bit of research into what they are doing to independent farmers


15 posted on 10/21/2012 9:33:40 PM PDT by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: Aussiebabe
How has Greenpeace and Fiends of Earth so brain washed even people on FR? Mainly, again, it based on emotion and not science. It not a coincidence that all the left wing websites and the MSM are promoting this proposition.

Exactly. The last thing we need right now is for the price of food to go up even more... This will raise the costs and any producer on the edge will be declaring bankruptcy, or simply not selling to CA.

16 posted on 10/21/2012 9:38:00 PM PDT by SCalGal (Friends don't let friends donate to H$U$, A$PCA, or PETA.)
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To: RushingWater; All

Have you all lost your minds, falling for the communist enviro-nazis scare tactics which serve no other purpose than to kill free enterprise and the economy?!

That’s what this is.

http://www.noprop37.com/


17 posted on 10/21/2012 9:59:01 PM PDT by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: RushingWater

“I don’t believe Monsanto is interested in healthy food and this is one way to push back on their ruthless monopoly.”

You sound like an “occupy-wall-street”-er.

Get the evil capitalists! Let’s redistribute the wealth! Long live the proletariat!


18 posted on 10/21/2012 10:01:45 PM PDT by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: Innovative

No offense.. but you sound like an employee of Monsanto.


19 posted on 10/21/2012 10:05:48 PM PDT by acapesket
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To: RushingWater

Here are the recommendations as listed on the CA GOP website for all the propositions:

http://www.cagop.org/newsdetails.asp?artId=5E5F58

They recommend NO on Prop37


20 posted on 10/21/2012 10:06:23 PM PDT by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: Innovative

REALLY?

They are not getting campaign donations from Monsanto are they?

Cause we all know how POWERFUL the GOP is in CA.!

Kinda like Gloria Allred and Meg Whitman...
oh yeah..
I am buying me some of that! Not.


21 posted on 10/21/2012 10:11:16 PM PDT by acapesket
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To: acapesket

I am someone who is not falling for the phony “protect the environment and protect the children” slogans that mask an attack on capitalism and our economy, giving the government more and more control over our lives.

People who want to have government control everything and “take care of them” should move to Cuba, China, Venezuela, or N Korea or could stay here and vote for Obama.


22 posted on 10/21/2012 10:11:49 PM PDT by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: SCalGal

Reading some of the posts of people, claiming to be conservatives, clamoring for more government control in our lives boggles my mind.

http://www.noprop37.com/


23 posted on 10/21/2012 10:14:21 PM PDT by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: Aussiebabe

Alinsky tactic Aussiebabe.

Makes me thin the people behind this proposition are correct.


25 posted on 10/21/2012 10:16:12 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: Aussiebabe

Alinsky tactic Aussiebabe.

Makes me think the people behind this proposition are correct.


26 posted on 10/21/2012 10:16:22 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: RushingWater
Here's the rub, there are “exceptions” to everything and this supposed Food Safety Act picks winners and losers, just like Obama does.

Are we now worried about what we buy in the Grocery Store, yet we wolf down a Big Mac without giving it a second thought? Since I do not spend my days tripping over dead bodies clutching opened packages of food containing GMO’s (Genetically Altered Organisms), I have to wonder why this is a burning issue. Then I remember, I live in Commiefornia and it all becomes crystal clear.

If people really want this intrusion, I have to think that they believe there are Companies out there with a business model that includes killing their own customers for fun, profit and maximized returns to their Shareholders. That's if their Shareholders haven't already succumbed.

27 posted on 10/21/2012 10:19:11 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (How do you insult an Obama Voter? Call them an Obama Voter.)
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To: Innovative

BTW.

That website is your proof?

Let’s talk “scare mongering”.
Give us a break.


28 posted on 10/21/2012 10:19:28 PM PDT by acapesket
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To: acapesket

Michael Taylorr is the head of the FDA? News to the rest of us.


29 posted on 10/21/2012 10:19:35 PM PDT by artichokegrower
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To: acapesket

Why don’t you educate yourself and listen to both sides, instead of buying into the leftist propaganda?

I already poste the link, but here it is again:

http://www.noprop37.com/

Are you a believer in global warming too? Why don’t we just shut down all our factories, ban all cars, kill all livestock because the claim is that they all contribute to global warming?

In the meantime China will merrily pollute the planet, while the US will go back to the stone ages.


30 posted on 10/21/2012 10:19:42 PM PDT by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: Kickass Conservative
Oops...

GMO = Genetically MODIFIED Organisms.

31 posted on 10/21/2012 10:23:27 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (How do you insult an Obama Voter? Call them an Obama Voter.)
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To: artichokegrower

He works for Bambi at the FDA and was a first hire.


32 posted on 10/21/2012 10:23:45 PM PDT by acapesket
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To: Innovative

You are an anti American.

To know if someone is putting something into the food supply that may harm you or your family is part of the ‘transparency’ that goes along with a free society.

You sound like a consumate socialist who approved of the BSE contaminated meat produced by SOCIALIST policies in the UK that flew against any common sense farmers held decades before.

You see socialist producers want profit at any cost to the consumer and look towards the government to ensure the free individual citizens have no right or say in the marketplace.

And by the way, contamintated food supply helps the socialist to establish control and get rid of the excess postulation they established as a goal in UN Agenda 21 signed by George Herbert Walker Bush in 1991.

You sound like one of the Republican party corrupters that enable the anti sovereigns and socialists in this country.


33 posted on 10/21/2012 10:25:22 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: acapesket

Deputy Commissioner for Foods at FDA..flying under the radar so to speak.


34 posted on 10/21/2012 10:25:54 PM PDT by acapesket
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To: RushingWater

I don’t trust either side on the issue. That is why I want the ingredients DISCLOSED on the ingredients list.

Whether to ban GMO is a separate issue.


35 posted on 10/21/2012 10:28:14 PM PDT by UnwashedPeasant
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To: RushingWater

http://www.noprop37.com/facts/

Proposition 37 would ban the sale of tens of thousands of perfectly-safe, common grocery products only in California unless they are specially repackaged, relabeled or made with higher cost ingredients. Prop 37 is a deceptive, deeply flawed food labeling scheme that would add more government bureaucracy and taxpayer costs, create new frivolous lawsuits, and increase food costs by billions — without providing any health or safety benefits. That’s why Prop 37 is opposed by a broad coalition of family farmers, scientists, doctors, business, labor, taxpayers and consumers.

PROP 37 CONFLICTS WITH SCIENCE

Biotechnology, also called genetic engineering (GE), has been used for nearly two decades to grow varieties of corn, soybeans and other crops that resist diseases and insects and require fewer pesticides. Thousands of common foods are made with ingredients from biotech crops. Prop 37 bans these perfectly safe foods only in California unless they’re specially relabeled or remade with higher cost ingredients.

PROP 37 MEANS MORE BUREAUCRACY AND TAXPAYER COSTS

Prop 37 forces state bureaucrats to administer its complex requirements by monitoring tens of thousands of food labels at tens of thousands of grocery stores, retail outlets, farms and food companies. In fact, it sets no limit on how many millions would be spent on bureaucracy, red tape and lawsuits. It’s a blank check… paid by taxpayers.

PROP 37 AUTHORIZES SHAKEDOWN LAWSUITS

Prop 37 was written by a trial lawyer to benefit trial lawyers. Its primary sponsor is a trial lawyer whose firm and organization have made more than $3 million suing under the terms of another proposition he helped write. Prop 37 creates a whole new class of “headhunter lawsuits,” allowing lawyers to sue family farmers and grocers without any proof of harm. It subjects farmers, grocers and food companies to huge litigation costs and lawyer payouts.

PROP 37 MEANS HIGHER FOOD COSTS

Prop 37 forces farmers and food companies to implement costly new labeling, packaging, distribution, recordkeeping and other bureaucratic operations that will cost billions of dollars to implement. Or, companies will be forced to switch to higher-priced, non-GE ingredients, like organics, in order to sell food in California. Economic studies show this would increase food costs for the average family by hundreds of dollars per year – a hidden food tax that would especially hurt seniors and low-income families who can least afford it.


36 posted on 10/21/2012 10:28:57 PM PDT by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: hedgetrimmer

Your gullibility of swallowing the leftist propaganda hook-line-and-sinker, as they say, is beyond belief.


37 posted on 10/21/2012 10:30:52 PM PDT by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: SCalGal

That’s globalist BS.

The last thing we need is carte blanche for a transnational (meaning they have NO allegiance to any country) corporations to add any thing, drug, poison whatever to our food supply with absolutely no oversight.

But those who hate America and our independence love this proposition.

How about getting rid of the ethanol mandate instead of truth in labeling?

You would prefer that all our food came from China, I’m sure, because country of origin labeling falls foul of the globalist agenda as well.


38 posted on 10/21/2012 10:31:36 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: Innovative

You sound like someone who is funding Occupy Wall Street to beat down Americans with individual thoughts and opinions.

Nice Alinsky move there, but it outed you.


39 posted on 10/21/2012 10:34:58 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: RushingWater

This is the latest effort of the Nanny Left to tell us what to eat. It requires foods that contain any ingredients resulting from biotechnology advances to carry the scary warning: “GENETICALLY ENGINEERED.” There is not a shred of evidence that biotechnology is the least bit dangerous - it often reduces the need for pesticides. To avoid branding their products with the Scarlet Warning, food processors would have to prove that every scrap and crumb in their fare is devoid of biotechnology or face crushing lawsuits. Grocery prices high enough yet?
http://www.tommcclintock.com/blog/tom-on-the-california-2012-propositions


40 posted on 10/21/2012 10:35:29 PM PDT by 1035rep (Obama: "I killed Bin Laden" ...you didn't do that. Somebody else made that happen.)
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To: SCalGal
"The last thing we need right now is for the price of food to go up even more"

They already have to list ingredients on the package. The new law will just mean they cannot hide the GMO on the existing ingredient list. Virtually zero cost to do this.

41 posted on 10/21/2012 10:35:38 PM PDT by UnwashedPeasant
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To: hedgetrimmer

Post 33: “You are an anti American.

To know if someone is putting something into the food supply that may harm you or your family is part of the ‘transparency’ that goes along with a free society.”

Post 38: “But those who hate America and our independence love this proposition.”

Your post 33 and 38 are totally contradictory.

So which is it?


42 posted on 10/21/2012 10:38:35 PM PDT by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: Innovative

Free enterprise does not mean socialist programs supported or hidden by the government, as much as that would please you.

A person who believes that they alone own their own body, also believes they should be able to decide what they ingest.

That view is antithetical to the socialist doctrine you espouse.

That is why you are trying to Alinsky the discussion away from conservatives.


43 posted on 10/21/2012 10:40:09 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: Innovative

There is no GOP in California.

That ‘they’ threw Tom McClintock under the bus to elect Arnold the Austrian Socialist to the governorship is proof positive.


44 posted on 10/21/2012 10:42:06 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: acapesket

Why be afraid to offend? These people don’t care about the conservative view point and freely use Alinsky tactics to shut us up.

They will not afford you the same courtesy.


45 posted on 10/21/2012 10:43:58 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: acapesket
I'm so tired of you idiots thinking that all GMOs are eeevil frankenfoods.

Let me give you an example of a benign GMO product: One can now buy stone fruit and pomme fruit trees that bear virtually any month of the summer you wish. One can even get grafted trees that have three to four bearings on them such that you have fresh fruit most all the time without too much fruit at any one time. It reduces the load on the tree too. Control of and spreading out time of harvest is very important to farmers, who can then arrange their production in such a way that averages out the price they get. It means you get locally grown food for a longer time period. It also reduces their risk that a weather anomaly will take out the entire crop.

The only purpose for the modification was date of harvest; the fruit itself is absolutely NO DIFFERENT. The only reason they use recombinant technology to produce these trees is that it is cheap, accurate, and reliable compared to classic hybridization. Do you really want to punish those people because you are so terrified of Monsanto that you don't have a clue about what is or is not healthful about a particular modification? Why not subscribe to a service you trust to make those determinations if you are so worried about it?

Look at what Prop 65 did re cancer causing chemicals. The labels are everywhere to the point that they are meaningless. Did it work?

46 posted on 10/21/2012 10:44:19 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (Islam offers us choices: convert or kill, submit or die.)
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To: Innovative

Nice! You get overtime for working late on Sunday night!


47 posted on 10/21/2012 10:46:14 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: hedgetrimmer
The last thing we need is carte blanche for a transnational (meaning they have NO allegiance to any country) corporations to add any thing, drug, poison whatever to our food supply with absolutely no oversight.

If you want oversight, pay for the service. If you trust the government to do it for you, well, you should know better.

48 posted on 10/21/2012 10:46:43 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (Islam offers us choices: convert or kill, submit or die.)
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To: hedgetrimmer; 1035rep; RushingWater; acapesket

Did you read post 40 by 1035rep?

Funny you should mention Tom McClintock. 1035rep quotes him in post 40, with the link:

“This is the latest effort of the Nanny Left to tell us what to eat. It requires foods that contain any ingredients resulting from biotechnology advances to carry the scary warning: “GENETICALLY ENGINEERED.” There is not a shred of evidence that biotechnology is the least bit dangerous - it often reduces the need for pesticides. To avoid branding their products with the Scarlet Warning, food processors would have to prove that every scrap and crumb in their fare is devoid of biotechnology or face crushing lawsuits. Grocery prices high enough yet?

http://www.tommcclintock.com/blog/tom-on-the-california-2012-propositions

Do you consider Tom McClintock a socialist and a student of Alinsky — as you have been accusing those who oppose this proposition?


49 posted on 10/21/2012 10:47:35 PM PDT by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: Innovative
"I am someone who is not falling for the phony “protect the environment and protect the children” slogans that mask an attack on capitalism and our economy, giving the government more and more control over our lives.

People who want to have government control everything and “take care of them” should move to Cuba, China, Venezuela, or N Korea or could stay here and vote for Obama."

Actually, the corrupt companies against this legislation are Crony Capitalists, like the kind they have in China. They are partners with the corrupt government workers and politicians that they pay for. You should learn the difference between Crony Capitalism and Free Market Capitalism. Be a little skeptical of companies like Monsanto and DuPont.

50 posted on 10/21/2012 10:49:59 PM PDT by UnwashedPeasant
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