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Pennsylvania: Last-Minute Game-Changer?
Wall Street Journal ^ | 10/22/2012 | COLLEEN MCCAIN NELSON

Posted on 10/22/2012 10:57:00 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

The Keystone State Hasn't Backed a GOP Presidential Candidate Since '88, but as Obama's Lead Narrows, Romney's Camp Eyes It.

Pennsylvania has emerged as an appealing target for Mitt Romney and the Republican Party as they consider where to invest their considerable resources during the final weeks of the presidential campaign.

A quick visit to a Pittsburgh suburb on Saturday by Mr. Romney's running mate, Rep. Paul Ryan, suggested that Republicans are eyeing the state—or else trying to keep their opposition guessing.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: 2012swingstates; obama; pa2012; pagoingred; painplay; paswingstate; pennsylvania; romney; tomsmith

1 posted on 10/22/2012 10:57:04 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Cleveland Ohio

Erie PA

Pitt. PA

ADVERTISE in the border markets HEAVY!


2 posted on 10/22/2012 11:06:08 AM PDT by Kansas58
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To: SeekAndFind

It’s all about the suburbs. Like it or not, but Romney is the kind of guy that the fiscal conservatives, social liberals/moderates that have money like.

There’s hardly any signs for Obama out, in fact I saw my first Obama 2012 bumper sticker last night, on a car with New Jersey license plate.


3 posted on 10/22/2012 11:09:52 AM PDT by Shadow44
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To: Shadow44

Agree. Romney should hit the Philly market hard. There are a lot of potential voters out there in Montgomery, Delaware, Chester, and Bucks Counties and well as in South Jersey.


4 posted on 10/22/2012 11:12:47 AM PDT by wolfman23601
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To: Kansas58

I live in a suburban Philly county and believe me I am talking to a lot of people who have buyers remorse concerning the last election. Most of them will vote for Romney or stay home. From my point of view and experience, it may be worth Romney spending some money here, he has a real chance to win PA. In ‘08 there was a fever for Obama, car bumper stickers, yard signs...I can count on one hand the number of those items I’ve seen in the suburbs, even in Philly. Obama has lost his mojo in PA.


5 posted on 10/22/2012 11:13:45 AM PDT by Right Wing Puppy
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To: SeekAndFind

Correct me if I’m wrong, but if R & R take PA then winning OH is not critical.


6 posted on 10/22/2012 11:14:10 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (Resurrect the House Committee on Un-American Activities (HUAC)...before there is no America!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Many Pennsyvanians cling to guns and bible...to many of them also cling to their welfare and the big G’teet.
Actually,its a strange mix out in rural Pa.
I know a guy who is disabled who owns hunting rifles and crossbows.
He cuts all his own fire wood and helps his father with his farming.


7 posted on 10/22/2012 11:14:26 AM PDT by Leep (Forward! to serfdom)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

RE: Correct me if I’m wrong, but if R & R take PA then winning OH is not critical.

You are correct my friend. But then I don’t see how he wins PA without also winning OH. Winning both will be icing on the cake.

Mike Gallagher tells us in his talk show that no one has ever won the presidency without winning OH since... Lincoln.

If ( and that’s a big if ), Romney wins PA but loses OH, it will be a BIG surprise ( a black swan even really ), but he’ll win the presidency nonetheless. And that will all but bury the Lincoln curse.


8 posted on 10/22/2012 11:17:53 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
For a long time, expecting to win in PA has been like Charlie Brown expecting that Lucy won't yank the football THIS time. Philly always seems to manufacture JUST enough votes to bring the Dem over the finish line, even if it means recording 120% voter turnout.

That said, if PA is called for Mitt early in the evening, the election is over. Especially if Fox calls it before West Coast polls close (forget about the rest of the MSM calling it, even if overwhelmingly for Mitt).

9 posted on 10/22/2012 11:18:36 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (political correctness is communist thought control, disguised as good manners)
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To: Hotlanta Mike
Less critical, not exactly not critical.

0 could conceivably run the table on a handful of other states to compensate.

Normally, I'd say that that doesn't usually happen, but it's Pennsylvania that's the wild card this time because of coal country.

10 posted on 10/22/2012 11:21:28 AM PDT by Tanniker Smith (Rome didn't fall in a day, either.)
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To: Tanniker Smith

Someone else pointed this out but it bears repeating: ads in Western Pa and eastern Ohio are very smart. If we take Pa, which I think is unlikely but possible, the election is over IMO. If we take Pa and put a ton of money into ads in eastern Ohio and can swing that state, I will be cheering around 11PM for sure.


11 posted on 10/22/2012 11:33:27 AM PDT by Mouton (Voting is an opiate of the electorate. Nothing changes no matter who wins..)
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To: PapaBear3625

“For a long time, expecting to win in PA has been like Charlie Brown expecting that Lucy won’t yank the football THIS time. Philly always seems to manufacture JUST enough votes to bring the Dem over the finish line, even if it means recording 120% voter turnout.”

yeah but PA has a GOP governor so the Rendell machine is history.


12 posted on 10/22/2012 11:36:57 AM PDT by ari-freedom
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To: Leep

Pennsylvanians cling to the government teat in places like Johnstown, where all of the available jobs were there as the direct result of Democrats like John Murtha abusing their positions to steal from other parts of the country and redirect them here.

Murtha is dead. Gas is king. Obama is toast.


13 posted on 10/22/2012 11:39:38 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: ari-freedom

Agreed. Check out the margin of victory in the last five elections. Pretty close. PA is not a lock for Obama.


14 posted on 10/22/2012 11:39:58 AM PDT by Right Wing Puppy
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To: ari-freedom

Agreed. Check out the margin of victory in the last five elections. Pretty close. PA is not a lock for Obama.


15 posted on 10/22/2012 11:40:07 AM PDT by Right Wing Puppy
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To: wolfman23601
Agree. Romney should hit the Philly market hard. There are a lot of potential voters out there in Montgomery, Delaware, Chester, and Bucks Counties and well as in South Jersey.

Advertising on Philadelphia TV hits DE and NE MD too. I doubt MD is in action, but there are a couple of polls in NJ that have Romney trailing by 4 or 5 points. I haven't seen any polling on DE. I don't think there are enough conservative voters in southern DE to make up for Wilmington. Small State ... Small Wonder.

16 posted on 10/22/2012 11:40:36 AM PDT by ConservativeInPA (The truth hurts)
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To: Shadow44
I live in upstate NY. I attended a neighborhood cocktail party in 2008 where all my liberal neighbors bragged about how thrilled they were to finally have a candidate like Obama. One bozo even crowed his son was working for the campaign and he flew out to swing states to help his son out. Well, that guy put his house on the market in 2009 and it took over 2 years to sell and he had to lower it by $100K. Bet he's glad he put out all the effort for the marxist.

Not one Obama sign on my street but nearly a dozen Romney signs!!

17 posted on 10/22/2012 11:41:27 AM PDT by NoExpectations
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To: ConservativeInPA
NJ would be a real long shot. Then again, they did elect Chris Christie.

Election night will mostly have lots of Obama victories in the NorthEast, then we will have Romney victories in most of the Middle, and then Obama victories on the West coast. If we can mute the Obama NE victories, we might dispirit people on the West Coast.

18 posted on 10/22/2012 11:46:27 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (political correctness is communist thought control, disguised as good manners)
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To: SeekAndFind
What would make the biggest difference for Obama would be for him to actively support all of the down ballot Democratic contestants, which he has not done nor will he do. The support of the down ballot creates a structure conducive to winning. Romney knows that and works with other Republicans, however Obama is so inexperienced that this one aspect of running a major campaign has for some reason completely escaped his view, as if he does not need help from anyone but Joe Biden.

So, let us calm our restless hearts. The first time Obama ran he got lucky and skated into office by sheer magic. However, this second time around he is facing a substantial candidate and he is missing his retractable rollers and facing an uphill climb with only his media and university toadies exasperatingly blowing on his back.

19 posted on 10/22/2012 11:47:14 AM PDT by Slyfox
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To: Slyfox

Here in southeastern Montgomery County, PA, you would pick Romney in a landslide if based on signs. The enthusiasm for R/R is much higher than Mcain in 2008. I drive deep into enemy territory in Philly and see 4 or five signs for the O’Chair. In fact in parts of Philly I see more Romney signs overall. DO NOT GIVE UP ON PA. I think we take it. There are a lot of people here who I think voted for Obama last time but are going to swallow pride and vote for Mitt.


20 posted on 10/22/2012 11:50:40 AM PDT by Phillyred
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To: Phillyred

I think that yard signs are a great unofficial poll in itself. People don’t just casually put one out. Lots of signs in one yard means the person is active politically. And if you see an empty chair sitting next to a Romney sign you know you’ve got real hot one.


21 posted on 10/22/2012 11:55:35 AM PDT by Slyfox
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To: SeekAndFind

Gallagher must have missed 1944, when Tom Dewey won Ohio by about 12,000 votes over doddering old commie FDR.


22 posted on 10/22/2012 11:57:33 AM PDT by PermaRag (If Trayvon had a father, he'd look just like Obama)
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To: SeekAndFind

Broad front tactics are best against an enemy with fewer resources.

Coat tails!

Hit PA, MI, NH, and even NJ with heavy adds. Obama will die trying to protect his deep blue homeground.


23 posted on 10/22/2012 12:06:54 PM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Pennsylvania is one of the few states that does not allow virtually any early or mail-in voting, so unlike most states, 99.8% of votes will be cast on November 6th. -——That makes Pennsylvania a juicy target for a big push in the final 10 days. Look for Romney and Ryan to do a lot of bouncing between Ohio and Penn in the closing days.


24 posted on 10/22/2012 12:07:13 PM PDT by cookcounty ("When I speak, I say what I mean and I mean what I say!" ---Joe Biden, 10/11/2012)
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To: SeekAndFind

Took a drive through Beaver, Butler, Clarion and Armstrong counties on 10/15. I saw at least 200+ Romney signs and only 1 Obama sign.


25 posted on 10/22/2012 12:07:24 PM PDT by Energizer45678
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To: Hotlanta Mike

Not wrong, and watching the OBots crash and burn early in the election will be worth watching. ;-)


26 posted on 10/22/2012 12:07:44 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: randita

Pa ping.


27 posted on 10/22/2012 12:17:18 PM PDT by sneakers (Go Sheriff Joe!)
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To: Red Steel
Not wrong, and watching the OBots crash and burn early in the election will be worth watching. ;-)

If PA gets called early in the evening I'm heading right over to MSNBC to watch the meltdown.
28 posted on 10/22/2012 12:22:52 PM PDT by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: Red Steel
One other advantage that comes from a win in PA calling the evening early. The Democrats need to pick up 24 seats to flip the congress to democrat. There are five Democrat seats they are likely to lose. It is unlikely that they will be able to pick up 29 seats to take over, but several of the toss up seats are in CA, CO and other western states. If the election gets called early it can depress Democrat turnout in those states and help ensure a GOP retention of the House.
29 posted on 10/22/2012 12:31:35 PM PDT by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: Shadow44

I live in Philly ‘burbs—and I’ve been visiting the Cleveland area all week—it’s unreal—I think Romney/Ryan are going to kick some major Kenyan heinie


30 posted on 10/22/2012 1:09:16 PM PDT by mortdecai
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To: SeekAndFind

In Chester County I see much the same as been reported. 10-1 sign for Smith over Casey. Same for RR over 0.

The enthusiasm edge 0 had in 08 was huge and is gone this year.

I am doubly prepared for the black panther pussy cat party.


31 posted on 10/22/2012 1:31:54 PM PDT by st.eqed
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To: All
No Republican has won the presidency without winning Ohio. Since the institution of the popular vote by state to award electoral votes, Candidates (mostly Democrats) have won the presidency without winning Ohio in 1824, 1836, 1844, 1848, 1856, 1884, 1892, 1944, and 1960.
32 posted on 10/22/2012 1:43:17 PM PDT by BushMeister ("We are a nation that has a government - not the other way around." --Ronald Reagan)
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To: fatima; Fresh Wind; st.eqed; xsmommy; House Atreides; Nowhere Man; South Hawthorne; brityank; ...

PA Ping!

If you want on/off the PA Ping List, please freepmail me.

If you see posts of interest to Pennsylvanians, please ping me.

Thanks!


33 posted on 10/22/2012 2:08:55 PM PDT by randita
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To: SampleMan

Obama’s cash is drying up. He had to borrow 12mil last week. Babs is begging for donations. He is dying a slow, certain death.


34 posted on 10/22/2012 2:36:40 PM PDT by ez (When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail.)
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To: SeekAndFind; PermaRag

And he missed 1960, when Nixon took Ohio handily, but lost to JFK


35 posted on 10/22/2012 2:54:01 PM PDT by Teacher317 ('Tis time to fear when tyrants seem to kiss.)
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