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8 reasons Hawaii doesn't vote
CNN ^ | Sunday, October 21, 2012 | John D. Sutter

Posted on 10/22/2012 11:37:32 AM PDT by Jyotishi

Hawaii had the lowest voter turnout rate in the United States in 2008, with fewer than half of the eligible population casting ballots. When I traveled to the state to find out why, I thought most of the problem might be apathy. The surfer thing, you know?

That is part of it, to be sure. But there are many reasons America's 50th state doesn't vote as much as the other 49, plenty of them specific to Hawaii.

Here's a bite-sized look at eight. If you want to be part of the solution, help us change the list by convincing these five people to vote for the first time, making a pledge to vote or sharing this "Mahalo for Voting!" image on Tumblr or Facebook.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: bluestates; commieredstate; election; hawaii; hi2012; turnout; vote; voterturnout

1 posted on 10/22/2012 11:37:37 AM PDT by Jyotishi
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To: Jyotishi

orly taitz says...october 22, 2012 from Indiana COURT...This is Huge! Over objections by the defense we were able to admit into evidence all of the exhibits and testimony showing forgery in Obama’s birth certificate. Proposed order will be submitted by TH, decision by Judge Reid WILL BE COMING IN
NEAR FUTURE!


2 posted on 10/22/2012 11:39:53 AM PDT by biggredd1
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To: Jyotishi

Did Hawaii not even participate in the 2010 election?


3 posted on 10/22/2012 11:40:22 AM PDT by Arm_Bears (Re-distribute my work ethic, not my wealth.)
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To: Jyotishi

Because Obama’s wasn’t the only Choom Gang high on precious pokolo?


4 posted on 10/22/2012 11:40:22 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: Jyotishi
"I traveled to the state to find out why"

"Hey, Bob! I think I should do a story on why Hawaii doesn't vote. Yeah, my expenses should be about $5,000. Any reason I shouldn't take my boyfriend?" - Author to Editor....

5 posted on 10/22/2012 11:41:01 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie ( “Obama, Obama, there are still a billion Osamas” - Cairo Protesters, 9/11/2012)
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To: Jyotishi

I would think the 6 hour difference with the east coast and being primarily a single party state would be the reasons for the low turnout in Hawaii.


6 posted on 10/22/2012 11:41:44 AM PDT by CatOwner
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To: biggredd1

This is exciting!

Which Indiana court?


7 posted on 10/22/2012 11:43:17 AM PDT by Uncle Slayton
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To: Jyotishi

Too much chooming and meth use over there. Just about everyone Dog (Bounty Hunter) is after is involved with meth. Meth has effed up their lives. Then you have a lot of natives and semi-natives who feel alienated from any political process. They get all kinds of gov’t feebies which has made them lazy. Too lazy to vote too.


8 posted on 10/22/2012 11:47:24 AM PDT by dennisw (Government be yo mamma - Re-elect Barack Obama)
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To: Jyotishi
I have been in Hawaii for the past week and a half and the presidential campaign doesn't even appear to be on the radar here. I've travelled extensively through the islands of Maui and Kauai and while I've seen scores of signs for local candidates, not a single Romney or Obama sign anywhere to be found.

It seems that Hawaii thinks of themselves as their own little country and whoever sits in Washington D.C. doesn't appear to matter much to them. Everybody seems laid back and yes, a lot of surfing is going on! It's about 9 in the morning here currently and I'm about to head back to the beach myself and hopefully I'll be back in time to catch the debate, which occurs early afternoon out here.

One charming thing about the political signs (and there are a lot of them for the local candidates) is that there is not a suit and tie to be found in the photos. All of them are photographed wearing Hawaiian style shirts with leis around their necks. I've even seen a few of the candidate out on the roadside waving to passing motorists. Again with the Hawaiian shirts and leis. If you don't like wearing shirts and ties, this is the place to be! Hell, I haven't even had a pair of socks on since I got here. Unfortunately it all comes to a crashing end on Saturday when I travel back to New England.

9 posted on 10/22/2012 11:50:52 AM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: CatOwner

Yes and few electoral votes:

Hawaii - 4, unchanged. The state’s population increased by 148,764 or 12.3 percent to 1,360,301 in 2010.

Electoral Votes by State - For 2012

http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/thepoliticalsystem/a/2012-Electoral-Votes-By-State.htm


10 posted on 10/22/2012 11:51:04 AM PDT by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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To: CatOwner
I would think the 6 hour difference with the east coast and being primarily a single party state would be the reasons for the low turnout in Hawaii.

You're not thinking like a reporter with an expense account, and a gullible editor. Dude.

11 posted on 10/22/2012 11:53:47 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: SamAdams76

Lucky. I’m going back in January.

Read Michener’s “Hawaii” Fascinating.

Funny thing is, when they were contemplating statehood for Hawaii and Alaska, it was figured Hawaii would be a strong GOP state and Alaska and strong DEM state.


12 posted on 10/22/2012 12:05:12 PM PDT by Tea Party Terrorist (Your tattoo looks stupid.)
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To: SamAdams76

Wife and I visited Hawaii for a week and saw hundreds of young people standing around under shade on beaches near our hotel. More folks just standing, watching traffic downtown.
That Kona Gold must be some stuff !


13 posted on 10/22/2012 12:06:04 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (In the game of life, there are no betting limits)
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To: SamAdams76

> ...One charming thing about the political signs (and there
> are a lot of them for the local candidates) is that there
> is not a suit and tie to be found in the photos. All of
> them are photographed wearing Hawaiian style shirts with
> leis around their necks.

Gov. Linda Lingle for US Senate:

http://www.lingle2012.com/

She’s a friend of Gov. Sarah Palin.


14 posted on 10/22/2012 12:07:56 PM PDT by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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To: Uncle Slayton

http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/

Marion County


15 posted on 10/22/2012 12:08:45 PM PDT by HollyB
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To: SamAdams76
Thanks for the on the ground reporting SamAdams, I know it must be tough to be in such a harsh environment, but we are appreciative of your sacrifices.

Next time I'll volunteer to go for you, :)

16 posted on 10/22/2012 12:24:41 PM PDT by Coffee_drinker (The best defense is a strong preemptive strike.)
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To: Jyotishi

I was based in HI with the Navy years ago. It had already become an anti-white, racist slum that tourists usually never see outside of the beach-front hotels. Panhandlers nearly tackled you in the streets, begging for money for drugs. Young, usually white kids drawn to HI by the false image of a soft, warm life, sleeping on the beaches while drugging-out and screwing everyone in sight. VD was already epidemic. Everyone — and I mean everyone — could get onto welfare after one visit to the government office. I was rammed by a guy who was drag-racing down I-1. He lived under a beached boat near Waikiki. No address. No phone. No insurance. But he had been able to buy a new Challenger — the weapon he used to nearly kill me. Welfare king. When I asked the cops what he had been charged with, the Hawaiian cop looked at me and said, “Nothin’.” When I asked why he replied, “we been unable to determine dat he done anything wrong.” Hawaiian against white — you lose. I replied the 250-foot long skid marks from his car might be evidence. Cop just glared at me. When I had my car repaired — at my expense — the Hawaiian garage didn’t install all the parts. I was very glad to PCS out of there.


17 posted on 10/22/2012 12:34:15 PM PDT by pabianice (washington, dc ..)
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To: Coffee_drinker

I’ve spent the past two Octobers in Hawaii so next year can be your turn!


18 posted on 10/22/2012 12:39:35 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: pabianice

> I was based in HI with the Navy years ago. It had already become an anti-white, racist slum that tourists usually never see outside of the beach-front hotels....

That’s very true. And the racism in Hawaii is not only against whites but among people of many backgrounds: Polynesian, Micronesian, Samoan, Tongan, Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Filipino, etc.


19 posted on 10/22/2012 12:48:03 PM PDT by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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To: pabianice

The last couple of port calls in HI, I got off the ship but refused to leave a penny of my money there. The locals hated anybody in uniform.


20 posted on 10/22/2012 1:23:33 PM PDT by dangerdoc (see post #6)
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To: pabianice
Been that way for awhile. My first duty assignment was with 1-5 IN 25th ID 76-78'. I distinctly remember "Kill Haole" Days- a loosely sanctioned school event with the locals that still goes on today. Also lots of local slickie boys roaming the beach parking lots looking for an easy break in to tourist rental cars and vehicles with military decals to feed their drug habit. That's still rampant, especially on the North Shore of Oahu.

Spirit of Aloha, my a$$. Native Hawaiians are some of the most racist leftist people on the planet. They are up deep in Obama's whole social justice, anti-colonial dogma.

21 posted on 10/22/2012 1:42:43 PM PDT by TADSLOS (Conservatism didn't magically show up in Romney's heart in 2012. You can't force what isn't in you.)
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To: SamAdams76

I just got from visiting my son on Oahu.....I found the same thing, all local political signs, never saw a single presidential sign.....I had some great food and a great time......


22 posted on 10/22/2012 1:43:51 PM PDT by Kimmers
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To: Kimmers

And they called Alaska Seward’s folly!

And hawaii is who’s giant mistake? Can we get a refund?

No desire to ever go there. If I want a beach I just go 5 miles East.


23 posted on 10/22/2012 2:06:18 PM PDT by bicyclerepair ( REPLACE D-W-S ! http://www.karenforcongress.com (I AM UNREPRESENTED))
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To: Jyotishi

Moved to Hawaii last year (Oahu - which is the main island for commerce, business, etc). It is definitely a blue state, but not as much as people might imagine. I actually think there is a good chance we will surprise people with the Senate race here.

As far as the culture, yeah, voting is more focused on local elections. Right now the “big” issue is whether to do a high speed rail project that would connect Honolulu with the west side of the island. A lot of people do not like to see modernization of the island and want to keep it ‘country’, but traffic is a beast right now too.


24 posted on 10/22/2012 3:41:58 PM PDT by Dragonspirit (Always remember President Token won only by defecting on his CFR pledge.)
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To: Dragonspirit

Maybe a Hawaii ping list can be created if one doesn’t exist. Yes Lingle may win. She’s against rail:

Lingle agrees with Cayetano’s stance on Honolulu rail project - Pacific Business News, Monday, October 22, 2012

http://www.bizjournals.com/pacific/blog/2012/10/lingle-agrees-with-cayetanos-stance.html


25 posted on 10/22/2012 3:59:56 PM PDT by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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To: bicyclerepair
Hawaii was annexed in 1898 when McKinley was President (during the period of the Spanish-American War). The Americans living in Hawaii had overthrown the queen in 1893 and asked to be annexed but Grover Cleveland (the last good Democrat President) refused to go along with that. Making Hawaii a state was presumably a Democrat initiative since they controlled Congress at the time.

I spent some time on Oahu in 1995 and didn't have any unpleasant experiences with the locals--maybe I was just lucky, or it has gotten worse in the last 17 years.

26 posted on 10/22/2012 4:39:21 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: pabianice
"an anti-white, racist slum that tourists usually never see outside of the beach-front hotels. Panhandlers nearly tackled you in the streets, begging for money for drugs."

Oahu is a great place to visit -- even if it isn't literally paradise.

I've been there 8 times now for vacations and work and really enjoy the laid back tourist scene. You just need the right attitude and to know where to stay and what to avoid.

We stayed at a hotel three blocks from the beach in Waikiki. Clean, nice, neat and a great price. But, the prostitutes at night work the street outside heavily. Makes me think that the authorities basically ignore prostitution.

Homeless dweebs camp out in Kapiʻolani Park with impunity. I love to jog there is in the morning.

I've heard stories of the racism in the schools. White kids are shunned by the Hawaiian kids.

So, Honolulu is a city like all others with big flaws. But, I still love every chance I get to visit. No wonder the homeless are attracted to lounge there.


27 posted on 10/22/2012 8:58:17 PM PDT by garjog (We do not want another four more years of the last four years.)
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To: Arm_Bears

Yeah.

A dirty old hippy democrat easily won the open Governorship relinquished by Linda Lingle and GOP Congressman Chuck Djou who had been elected with a 47% plurality got 47% again, to his rat opponent’s 53%, making it one of only 3 GOP seats to go rat in 2010.

And the number of Republicans in the State Senate was reduced from 2 to just 1.

No matter the turnout Obama will there by 30 points. We should kick them out of the union.


28 posted on 10/23/2012 10:53:07 PM PDT by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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