Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Debate Moderator Bob Schieffer: GOP Obsessed With Birth Control
Life Site News ^ | October 22, 2012 | Steven Ertelt

Posted on 10/22/2012 2:01:08 PM PDT by NYer

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-5051-85 last
To: NYer

Shouldn’t he be, like, keeping his mouth shut right before he’s supposed to be a “neutral’ moderator in a presidential debate?

Libtards...can’t do it the way it’s meant to be done. They HAVE no class!


51 posted on 10/22/2012 3:18:02 PM PDT by LUV W (All my heroes wear camos!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Cyman

except Romney WON both debates

you ain’t no judge


52 posted on 10/22/2012 3:20:42 PM PDT by advertising guy (" that lie has it's own sleep number " David Feherty PGA Championship 2012)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: MamaTexan

Exactly. Nor do we see the spectacle of intimidation when dozens of RAT senators and congresscritters publically condemned and threatened the Koman Foundation when they wanted to sever their relationship with Planned Parenthood.


53 posted on 10/22/2012 3:21:00 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (Don't be afraid to see what you see. -- Ronald Reagan)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 50 | View Replies]

To: gleeaikin

I think most in the GOP would be all for dems using birth control.


54 posted on 10/22/2012 3:26:37 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: Cyman

Stuff it, bub. This is DO OR DIE for our country. If Romney doesn’t win, we are FINISHED and it isn’t going to be pretty!!


55 posted on 10/22/2012 3:27:12 PM PDT by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: gleeaikin

LIFE is a GIFT from GOD!!! Just because two people have sex doesn’t mena a baby develops!! LIFE IS A GIFT!! Bet you thank YOUR mom for giving you life!! EVERY life is valuable even if one is stupid.


56 posted on 10/22/2012 3:32:17 PM PDT by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: Ann Archy
This is DO OR DIE for our country. If Romney doesn’t win, we are FINISHED and it isn’t going to be pretty!!

******************************

It's been a difficult and painful decision for me, but that is what I believe as well.

57 posted on 10/22/2012 3:35:22 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 55 | View Replies]

To: gleeaikin
I really don't care how many kids you produce. You made a point, albeit a little inferentially, that there were too many people and that it was due to mindless reproduction.

I proposed that your thesis be tested regarding the "too many people" part ~ there maybe, or there may not be.

Let me be the judge of that.

58 posted on 10/22/2012 3:35:55 PM PDT by muawiyah
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 28 | View Replies]

To: gleeaikin

Your child serving in Afghanistan proboably doesn’t think he should have been aborted. We aren’;t talking about HIM/HER.....YOU we are talking about becauee YOU think there’s too many children in this world. Woe to you.


59 posted on 10/22/2012 3:37:27 PM PDT by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 28 | View Replies]

To: gleeaikin
You assume that the world population is large, thereby justifying murder as a fix for the non issue.

I find that the world is rather undeveloped, Alaska for instance is a third the size of the United States and has about 600,000 people living here. If you have ever driven across Nevada, you would be praying for more people.

If you want to plan for a smaller family, you can try abstinence. And studies have shown that schools that teach abstinence have much lower abortion and teen pregnancy rates than any that hand out condoms and teach underage children how to have sex, but not the moral implications of being parents.

I think the preferred choice of most parents is to teach their own children about sex based on their personal growth, not on a bell curve graded by a liberal politician. Might I point out that the largest study on sexual education took place in the school system over the last ten years, and it conclusively proved that if you teach children how to have sex, teenage pregnancy rates soar, along with Sexually Transmitted Disease.

Compare the 1960's teen pregnancy rates to the last decade when teachers foolishly took over moral issues instead of teaching children hard skills. This bothersome incursion by "Professionals" has resulted it the death of MILLIONS of people. Hitler does not hold a candle to the Progressive school systems of today.

60 posted on 10/22/2012 3:42:55 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: RavenLooneyToon; NYer; MinuteGal; M Kehoe
"...Well, as far as I'm concerned, if a lady opts for a recreational abortion, she has decided to become a murderer and must accept all of the self inflicted consequences INCLUDING THE INVOICE.
I do not advocate she should go to prison as I believe she will be judged by the only authority at the end of her life here on earth.
BUT do not make it the law of the land that I SHOULD PAY for her poor decisions..."

That is so good that it should be said again! Recreational-Abortion!

Great turn of a phrase! ........................................................ FRegards

61 posted on 10/22/2012 3:44:22 PM PDT by gonzo ( Buy more ammo, dammit! You should already have the firearms ... FRegards)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: American in Israel

Well said.


62 posted on 10/22/2012 3:45:00 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 60 | View Replies]

Comment #63 Removed by Moderator

To: NYer

The Democrats are obsessed with killing as many babies as possible. They are also obsessed with holding black people back (remember when they tried to burden them with “ebonics” as an alternative language that would forever keep them out of office management?).


64 posted on 10/22/2012 4:04:23 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Obama likes to claim credit for getting Osama. Why hasn't he tried Khalid Sheikh Mohammed yet?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: NYer

Schieffer is insane or is obcessed with wearing women under garments.
See how that works.
You say it and it must be true.


65 posted on 10/22/2012 4:11:28 PM PDT by Leep (Forward! to serfdom)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: NYer

Yes, if only the moderator’s mother had been on the pill.


66 posted on 10/22/2012 4:22:15 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: All


Help End The Obama Era In 2012
Your Monthly and Quarterly Donations
Help Keep FR In the Battle!

Sponsoring FReepers are contributing
$10 Each time a New Monthly Donor signs up!
Get more bang for your FR buck!
Click Here To Sign Up Now!


67 posted on 10/22/2012 4:27:08 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 66 | View Replies]

To: musicman

Hey. :)


68 posted on 10/22/2012 4:27:43 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 67 | View Replies]

To: trisham

Hi trisham!!


69 posted on 10/22/2012 4:51:36 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 68 | View Replies]

To: Cyman

Romney will run over that old goat Schieffer. He fried his brain when he couldn’t remember if he voted for FDR or Otto Van Bismarck the last election.


70 posted on 10/22/2012 5:00:22 PM PDT by sergeantdave (The FBI has declared war on the Marine Corps)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: gleeaikin

I don’t believe that access to birth control will decrease birth rates or childhood illnesses.

If that were so, then there wouldn’t be an explosion of births among single women. Birth control is cheap and available everywhere.


71 posted on 10/22/2012 5:04:45 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 39 | View Replies]

To: Wiser now

It’s a form of projection. Anything less than total agreement with the Dems on absolutely every issue is “obsession” and “hate thoughts.”


72 posted on 10/22/2012 5:33:33 PM PDT by ReformationFan
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: NYer

Bob is obsessed with the sound of his voice.


73 posted on 10/22/2012 6:03:22 PM PDT by Henry Hnyellar
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Ann Archy
Stuff it, bub. This is DO OR DIE for our country. If Romney doesn’t win, we are FINISHED and it isn’t going to be pretty!!

People said this in 2008. This country is much stronger than Obama or Romney and will survive either one of them.

You should be a lot more concerned about Congress, because at the end of the day they are one of the best checks on Presidential power that we have - we can't trust the USSC like we thought we could. Bush could not have gotten the PATRIOT Act passed without RINOs in Congress rolling over for him. Bush and Obama could not have gotten us into various foreign adventures without the support of Congress.

Obama will be liberal that he's been and Romney will be the liberal that he was in Massachusetts, and they can only go so far without the support of Congress. If the Democrats and RINOs line up together in Congress, then you need to worry about the future of this country.

Channel your anger or fear into energy to contact your Senators and your Representatives, and make sure they know they will lose your vote if they allow Obama or Romney to run around unchecked. We should have done this after the PATRIOT Act, and instead we kept on re-electing most of the same liberals with (R) next to their names.
74 posted on 10/22/2012 6:11:53 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 55 | View Replies]

To: NYer

Bookmark


75 posted on 10/22/2012 9:19:15 PM PDT by SoCal SoCon (Conservatism =/= Corporatism.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

Comment #76 Removed by Moderator

To: xzins; All

This was a specific study of 9,000 women who had access to free birth control and often chose the long lasting options like IUD. In that population there were around 80% fewer teen pregnancies and abortions compared with the national averages. Perhaps if the rest of the population availed themselves of free long term birth control we would have a significant reduction in teen pregnancies and abortions. Long term birth control requires a doctors services and costs to put in place, so is not necessarily cheap or available everywhere.


77 posted on 10/23/2012 9:48:34 PM PDT by gleeaikin
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 71 | View Replies]

To: gleeaikin

So, what you’re telling me is that over X amount of time, because studies have start and end times, 1800 women had pregnancies.

A fertility rate of 20% over a year or two (whatever it was) seems really steep to me.

So, I repeat. Free birth control does NOT decrease the likelihood of young women ending up with children or with abortions, both of which with single women, will end of dramatically changing their lives.

So, your daughter has a 20% chance of getting pregnant. Do you tell her to PRACTICE that behavior?


78 posted on 10/24/2012 3:48:16 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 77 | View Replies]

To: xzins; All

NO, NO, NO, you are completely misrepresenting/misunderstanding what I said. What happened is that the study subjects had around 1/5th the teen pregnancy and abortion rates of the national averages for those two items. The national average for each is 100% which might actually only be 4 or 5 pregnancies or abortions per hundred people. So that 20% would be around 1, but this is just illustrating how the number works, I don’t know what the national averages actually are.

So in the study cohort your daughter has only 1/5th the likelihood of getting pregnant compared to the national average.


79 posted on 10/25/2012 12:35:54 AM PDT by gleeaikin
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 78 | View Replies]

To: gleeaikin; wagglebee

I don’t want my daughter practicing behavior that lulls her to sleep with a 20% chance of getting pregnant. That means she’ll practice the behavior much more often and that 20% will eventually bite her.

I’d rather her believe she has 100% chance of getting pregnant. No illusions is best. Therefore, no birth control is best.


80 posted on 10/25/2012 4:58:46 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 79 | View Replies]

To: gleeaikin; xzins; Dr. Brian Kopp; trisham; DJ MacWoW; little jeremiah; Coleus; narses; ...
Perhaps if the rest of the population availed themselves of free long term birth control we would have a significant reduction in teen pregnancies and abortions. Long term birth control requires a doctors services and costs to put in place, so is not necessarily cheap or available everywhere.

Free (or basically free) contraception has been available for almost half a century.

What has happened in that time is as follows:

- Out-of-wedlock pregnancy rates have skyrocketed.

- Divorce rates have skyrocketed.

- Teen pregnancy has skyrocketed.

- The birthrate has dropped to levels that have severely compromised America's fiscal well-being and national security. (Social Security and Medicare would both be fine if birth rates had remained as they were prior to the 1960s and there would be no need for illegal immigrants.)

- More than 53 MILLION INNOCENT AMERICANS HAVE BEEN MURDERED IN THE WOMB.

The dream that YOU and the left have of free contraception and the eugenics-based "utopia" you believe in have all but destroyed America. With the exception of terrorism, EVERY problem America has today is rooted in the moral collapse of the past several decades and birth control has been at the center of all of it.

81 posted on 10/25/2012 5:56:21 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 77 | View Replies]

To: wagglebee; All

Let’s see, teen pregnancies have skyrocketed, out-of-wedlock pregnancies have skyrocketed, but the drop in birth rate has severely compromised our fiscal well-being. I would sure hate to head for the moon on that rocket. Meanwhile, thank you teen agers and unwed mothers for working so hard to save our fiscal well-being. Shame on all you responsible users of birth control.


82 posted on 10/25/2012 12:35:19 PM PDT by gleeaikin
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 81 | View Replies]

To: NYer

some birth control causes abortions (the pill, Coated IUD’s and the morning after pill), which means the egg is fertilized, a human is made and the blast can’t attach to the uterus once it leaves the fallopian tube. I would say this is cause for concern.


83 posted on 10/25/2012 1:44:43 PM PDT by Coleus
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: gleeaikin; xzins; Dr. Brian Kopp; trisham; DJ MacWoW; little jeremiah; Coleus; narses; ...
Let’s see, teen pregnancies have skyrocketed, out-of-wedlock pregnancies have skyrocketed, but the drop in birth rate has severely compromised our fiscal well-being. I would sure hate to head for the moon on that rocket.

Unfortunately, my original post didn't compensate for any comprehension or logic deficiencies on the part of the reader.

The FACT that the rate of teen and our-of-wedlock pregnancies has skyrocketed DOES NOT contradict the FACT that the overall birth rate had dropped to unsustainable levels.

We only need to look at the rate of live births to see that contraception (including infanticide) has pushed birth rates to dangerously low levels. Economic growth requires normal population growth, you and the other eugenicists have put that at risk.

There are approximately 4 million live births per year in the United States and just over 1.3 million abortions. As far as Big Murder and people like you are concerned, this constitutes "responsible" use of birth control. Twenty-five percent of pregnancies in America end in murder, that coupled with other forms of contraception is what has pushed down the birth rate.

Meanwhile, thank you teen agers and unwed mothers for working so hard to save our fiscal well-being. Shame on all you responsible users of birth control.

No, shame on YOU and people like you for promoting the murder of over 53 MILLION INNOCENT AMERICANS. An American baby is murdered EVERY 24 SECONDS.

84 posted on 10/26/2012 6:44:07 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 82 | View Replies]

To: wagglebee

Please stop confusing support for birth control with support for abortion, or is it your propaganda mode?


85 posted on 10/26/2012 12:47:36 PM PDT by gleeaikin
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 84 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-5051-85 last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson