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Obama vs. Romney: How they plan to win (Romney campaign seriously believes 305 EV's is realistic)
Politico ^ | 10/22/2012 | By: Glenn Thrush and Jonathan Martin

Posted on 10/22/2012 2:14:02 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

It’s momentum vs. the map.

With a little more than two weeks left until judgment day, Barack Obama’s campaign is embracing a fundamentally defensive strategy centered on winning Ohio at all costs — while unleashing a new barrage of blistering attacks against Mitt Romney aimed at mobilizing a less-than-fired-up Democratic base.

A surging Romney is suddenly playing offense all over the map, and the upward movement since the Denver debate gives him the luxury of striking what his advisers — and more than a few Democrats — think is a more positive, presidential, “Morning in America” tone.

In contrast to the grind-it-out Obama strategy, Romneyland’s working theory is that the momentum shift since Denver is a late-breaking, decisive wave that gives them the chance to not just win but win big.

But if Obama is currently on the ugly end of Big Mo, Romney finds himself hobbled by previous mistakes, namely a failure to develop competitive ground operations — or even a baseline of competitive advertising — in potential battlegrounds such as Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin, which are becoming more competitive.

Both campaigns are confident they can win. But their theory-of-the-case victory strategies couldn’t be more different. A buoyant Team Romney sees itself driving into Obama territory on a tailwind of enthusiasm. Team Obama is relying on a three-state solution — winning Ohio, Wisconsin and Nevada puts him over the top — and more “Hit Mitt” messaging geared at driving Democrats to the polls, a hybrid of hope and the hammer.

Obama’s people think he will pull it out. Romney’s aides see the possibility of a romp.

“We’re going to win,” said one of the former Massachusetts governor’s closest advisers. “Seriously, 305 electoral votes.”

(Excerpt) Read more at dyn.politico.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: campaign; obama; romney
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1 posted on 10/22/2012 2:14:08 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

I’m still worried and nervouser than Nervous Norvus hisself!


2 posted on 10/22/2012 2:15:33 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Revolting cat!

If romney doesn’t win in a landslide, I seriously expect to see rioting in some of the bigger cities on both coasts...

Heck even if he does win in a landslide I expect to see *some* rioting.


3 posted on 10/22/2012 2:17:30 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: SeekAndFind

100% agree that Romney and the Republicans lack ground organization in battleground states like Wisconsin. I spent time with a couple Dem Senators who were visiting Wisconsin for fundraising a couple weeks back - both were touring numerous offices and both remarked that the Dems were working more hours and keeping their offices and calling going on weekends. I get the distinct feeling that the Republican campaign offices are working fewer days and fewer hours down the stretch - focusing on messaging and ads rather than GOTV.


4 posted on 10/22/2012 2:18:51 PM PDT by sbMKE
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To: Revolting cat!

This year is very similar to W’s runs. Polls all over the place and nail-biting drama as the real poll approaches.


5 posted on 10/22/2012 2:18:51 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: SeekAndFind
(Romney campaign seriously believes 305 EV's is realistic)

And they are 'seriously' correct and then some.

6 posted on 10/22/2012 2:18:55 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: GraceG

Your results may vary, but riots are guaranteed.


7 posted on 10/22/2012 2:18:55 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: GraceG
If romney doesn’t win in a landslide, I seriously expect to see rioting in some of the bigger cities on both coasts...
Heck even if he does win in a landslide I expect to see *some* rioting.

Could actually go other way, as landslide might be interpreted as total repudiation!

8 posted on 10/22/2012 2:21:02 PM PDT by Brandonmark (2012: Our Hope IS Change!)
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To: Revolting cat!

>> I’m still worried and nervouser than Nervous Norvus hisself!

Cats R like that. Go scratch something. You’ll feel better. :-)


9 posted on 10/22/2012 2:22:12 PM PDT by Nervous Tick ("You can ignore reality, but you can't ignore the consequences of ignoring reality.")
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To: Revolting cat!

No need to be nervous like the rest of the nervous Nellies here. Even the polls that are skewed toward Obama tells the story that Obama is toast on November 6th.


10 posted on 10/22/2012 2:23:07 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Nervous Tick

I know, it may be the ticks that are making me nervous.


11 posted on 10/22/2012 2:24:06 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Paladin2

>> This year is very similar to W’s runs.

I sure hope it’s more like dubya’s SECOND run than his FIRST run.


12 posted on 10/22/2012 2:24:06 PM PDT by Nervous Tick ("You can ignore reality, but you can't ignore the consequences of ignoring reality.")
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To: SeekAndFind
Romney campaign seriously believes 305 EV's is realistic

ditto

..it's starting to look like 301-321 or so, maybe with some good surprises...

13 posted on 10/22/2012 2:24:52 PM PDT by WalterSkinner ( In Memory of My Father--WWII Vet and Patriot 1926-2007)
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To: sbMKE
100% agree that Romney and the Republicans lack ground organization in battleground states like Wisconsin. I spent time with a couple Dem Senators who were visiting Wisconsin for fundraising a couple weeks back - both were touring numerous offices and both remarked that the Dems were working more hours and keeping their offices and calling going on weekends. I get the distinct feeling that the Republican campaign offices are working fewer days and fewer hours down the stretch - focusing on messaging and ads rather than GOTV.
This cannot be the case. The Wisconsin GOP organization was primed and exercised as recently as June this year in a massive GOTV. How could they not be ready to go?
14 posted on 10/22/2012 2:26:07 PM PDT by Tennessean4Bush (An optimist believes we live in the best of all possible worlds. A pessimist fears this is true.)
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To: Revolting cat!

>> it may be the ticks that are making me nervous.

Nervous is not contagious. Layme Disease, though... you gotta look out for *that*.


15 posted on 10/22/2012 2:26:57 PM PDT by Nervous Tick ("You can ignore reality, but you can't ignore the consequences of ignoring reality.")
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To: Revolting cat!

>> it may be the ticks that are making me nervous.

Nervous is not contagious. Layme Disease, though... you gotta keep an eye out for *that*.


16 posted on 10/22/2012 2:27:25 PM PDT by Nervous Tick ("You can ignore reality, but you can't ignore the consequences of ignoring reality.")
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To: SeekAndFind

Moveon is entering a state of full panic.

Below is their latest of many emails asking for money or time/effort:

“The race for president is razor close, and we only have 15 days to win. Unless we throw 1,000 call parties before the election, thousands of potential swing state volunteers won’t get called.

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Thanks for all you do.

–Amy and the rest of the team


17 posted on 10/22/2012 2:28:23 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (We are the 53%, who pay taxes and keep this country going inspite of the 47% rat moochers!)
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To: SeekAndFind

TRANSLATION: Romney doing so unbelievable well in states most believed he had no chance in he doesn’t have the infrastructure to manage it fully.

This is HUGH!!!


18 posted on 10/22/2012 2:29:14 PM PDT by subterfuge (BUILD MORE NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS NOW!!!)
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To: Revolting cat!

SEE!?!? My second double post already caught Layme Disease from my first! IT’S JUST THAT QUICK!


19 posted on 10/22/2012 2:29:36 PM PDT by Nervous Tick ("You can ignore reality, but you can't ignore the consequences of ignoring reality.")
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To: Nervous Tick

Me too. I signed up for FR after the first “exercise” after lurking all day long for daze prior to the Real Poll and in the aftermath.


20 posted on 10/22/2012 2:29:47 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: SeekAndFind

Its all over. Romney will win every true swing state and maybe even PA. They all know it. Do the math. With VA, FL, and CO in Romneys column, Obama, not Romney, needs Ohio.

Romney is expanding his map and can win many ways, with WI and NH for example.


21 posted on 10/22/2012 2:35:55 PM PDT by nhwingut (Single Issue Voter: Obama Must Go!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Nothing would restore my faith in this country more than an absolute McGovern (may he RIP) style stomping. I’d love to see a 70/30 crushing victory for Romney.


22 posted on 10/22/2012 2:39:24 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: sbMKE
I spent time with a couple Dem Senators who were visiting Wisconsin for fundraising a couple weeks back - both were touring numerous offices and both remarked that the Dems were working more hours and keeping their offices and calling going on weekends. I get the distinct feeling that the Republican campaign offices are working fewer days and fewer hours down the stretch - focusing on messaging and ads rather than GOTV.

Frst, why believe Dem Senators? Second, I think the R side probably only needs to contact a voter once and get a commitment, while the D's have to keep after their side. Less hours are required.

23 posted on 10/22/2012 2:51:33 PM PDT by ez (When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail.)
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To: Revolting cat!

I’m with you Revolting Cat!


24 posted on 10/22/2012 2:56:39 PM PDT by MacMattico
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To: sbMKE
The GOP lacks ground organization in WI?

It was their ground organization that led to the blow out recall win!

25 posted on 10/22/2012 2:56:51 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: Tennessean4Bush

Yep WI victory centers have been knocking on door for a month. I personally went out with the state chairman. We don’t have to guess, we did this for real just 120 days ago when the whole world of labor was coming down on us.


26 posted on 10/22/2012 3:10:01 PM PDT by sgtyork (The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage. Thucydides)
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To: Red Steel; SeekAndFind; LS; Perdogg; napscoordinator; God luvs America; nutmeg; SoFloFreeper; ...

This what a 305 EV threshold win would look like.

http://www.270towin.com/2012_election_predictions.php?mapid=Ocb


27 posted on 10/22/2012 3:18:16 PM PDT by Perdogg (Vote like the US Constitution depends on it - it does!!)
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To: SeekAndFind
Team Obama is relying on a three-state solution — winning Ohio, Wisconsin and Nevada puts him over the top...

Yeah, are they convinced they're gonna win Iowa?

28 posted on 10/22/2012 3:44:44 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: SeekAndFind

I’m thinking 350+ if not everything but CA/NY/HI.


29 posted on 10/22/2012 3:45:34 PM PDT by struggle (http://killthegovernment.wordpress.com/)
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To: subterfuge

Hugh Grant, Hugh Laurie, or Hugh Beaumont?


30 posted on 10/22/2012 3:59:01 PM PDT by TroutFishingInAmerica ("I remember, with particular amusement, men in three-cornered hats, fishing in the dawn")
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To: Revolting cat!
I am sick and tired of sitting on pins and needles...but that is our lot for the next two weeks.

That said...if Romney wins, there will be a renaissance in America and hopefully around the world (if Europe pays attention).

I am thinking of buying a case of cheap but delicious champagne (I'm thinking Korbel brut).

31 posted on 10/22/2012 3:59:15 PM PDT by RoosterRedux (Obama: "If you've got a business -- you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen.")
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To: Perdogg

Winning Minnesota is a bit optimistic, don’t you think?


32 posted on 10/22/2012 4:12:45 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Red Steel

Obama 277 ECV

I`m thinking voter fraud will win him Ohio


33 posted on 10/22/2012 4:13:58 PM PDT by Para-Ord.45
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HOLD ALL MY PHONE CALLS AND BRING ME MORE BEER!


34 posted on 10/22/2012 4:14:02 PM PDT by devolve ( ---- ---- ---- -CHEESEBURGER_CHEESEBURGER_CHEESEBURGER- ---- ---- ---- ---- John Belusi ---- ----)
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To: SeekAndFind

305 electoral votes is do-able. If it does happen they way those in the know say, the Left in this country will be frothing at the mouth and gnawing on their foot.

I talked to our Governor candidate, Rob McKenna and his inside numbers put Romney within the margin of error in Washington State. Yes, that’s the Left Coast jungle of Washington State!


35 posted on 10/22/2012 4:14:42 PM PDT by jonrick46 (Countdown to 11-06-2012)
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To: Revolting cat!

It will be between 330-400 ev’s.


36 posted on 10/22/2012 4:16:07 PM PDT by GilGil
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To: Revolting cat!

Im worried as all hell too. Not that Romney cant pull this off, but with all the fraud that will be going down with missing ballots and absentee ballot stuffing. Not to mention the “living dead” voter reg stories popping up.


37 posted on 10/22/2012 4:36:12 PM PDT by ObozoMustGo2012
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To: Revolting cat!

Im worried as all hell too. Not that Romney cant pull this off, but with all the fraud that will be going down with missing ballots and absentee ballot stuffing. Not to mention the “living dead” voter reg stories popping up.


38 posted on 10/22/2012 4:36:29 PM PDT by ObozoMustGo2012
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To: Para-Ord.45

Please get a grip.


39 posted on 10/22/2012 10:30:28 PM PDT by Perdogg (Vote like the US Constitution depends on it - it does!!)
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To: SoFloFreeper

No I was just showing what 305 EV would entail.


40 posted on 10/22/2012 10:32:30 PM PDT by Perdogg (Vote like the US Constitution depends on it - it does!!)
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To: SeekAndFind

305 plus many more.


41 posted on 10/22/2012 10:37:26 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (The pundits have forgotten the 2010 elections.)
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To: Revolting cat!

Don’t be nervous about anything that you can’t control. It’s not worth it. I want Mitt Romney to win too but, more than anything I want the election to be fair to both sides. The winner celebrates and the loser gets another chance in two years. It’s our system and thank god for it but with that said, Obama mkaes me sik. If the public chooses to keep that charleton, I’m going to be very dissapointed.


42 posted on 10/22/2012 11:00:43 PM PDT by Mustangman (The GOP)
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To: GraceG

I can’t picture Obama being man enough to giv a concession speech. I don’t think he’s ever lost in his life. I know for certain he’s never run for reelection his entire life...which is why he’s no good at it.

Should Obama win, he’ll do a Jamarcus Russel and immediately quit..except for insulting the people who didn’t vote for him for the next four years (or as he calls it leadership). Should Obama lose, the man might just call for protests. He is that thin skinned and that cold....in my opinion. Obama is not a politician to most people. He’s a leader of a cult. Cult leaders don’t go down easy.


43 posted on 10/22/2012 11:06:33 PM PDT by Mustangman (The GOP)
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To: nhwingut

I don’t want to be too optimistic but, Obama sure looked like a guy sweating bullets on that stage tonight...desperate to make a score. Sire Obama had few lines that were effective but, they just seemed to be too pat.

Romeney once again came in with a devestating blow regarding the ‘apology tour.’ That’s the kind of quote that people remember three days from now. Every single debate he’s made a devastaing remark that stays in the memory for several days.

I don’t want to get too crazy here but, it just appeared like both campaigns have internal polling data that shows Romeney to be the eventual winner. And, there was Romeny just sort of twisting the knife and playing keep-away as Obama floundered desperately trying to get Romney to slip up....with no such luck That was my impression anyway.

Seriously......no way Obama felt good after he left the stage tonight.


44 posted on 10/22/2012 11:29:04 PM PDT by Mustangman (The GOP)
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To: struggle

I live in CA. No way Romney wins here....as sad as that sounds We can’t balance our budget, pay for most of our liberal policies, and illegal immigranst are welcome!!! And we’re proud of it!!!


45 posted on 10/22/2012 11:34:08 PM PDT by Mustangman (The GOP)
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To: RoosterRedux

Korbel is great, but try some Paul Cheneau/Lady of Spain. It’s inexpensive and delicious - fits your criteria. [smiles]

Hubby and I share a bottle of champagne every Friday night to celebrate our marriage of nearly 33 years.

He has quite a selection.


46 posted on 10/23/2012 4:34:41 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: TheOldLady

Thanks for the recommendation. I’ll see if I can find it.


47 posted on 10/23/2012 4:48:16 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (Obama: "If you've got a business -- you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen.")
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To: TroutFishingInAmerica

Hugh and cry....?


48 posted on 10/23/2012 5:50:43 AM PDT by subterfuge (BUILD MORE NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS NOW!!!)
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To: RoosterRedux

Paul Cheneau/Lady of Spain on Bing:

http://www.bing.com/search?q=paul+cheneau&form=MOZSBR&pc=MOZI


49 posted on 10/23/2012 10:37:28 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: TheOldLady
Thx for that.;-)

I am going to try to find it in my area...have already recommended it to others based on your review.

50 posted on 10/23/2012 10:59:14 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (Obama: "If you've got a business -- you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen.")
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