Posted on 10/23/2012 4:31:30 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
I have young “independent” family members who told me that Romney scared them when it came to foreign policy — that he wanted to go to war. Perhaps Romney’s team picked up on these fears. I couldn’t watch the debate but it sounds like Romney was talking to my family’s fears.
After fact checking on a gazillion things (sequestration, GM bailout, relationship with allies, Russia, Status of Forces agreement, Libya,apology tour ....)
I’m beginning to understand Romney better.
I think they’ve figured out that if you let Obama speak long enough - he’ll say stupid things like “horses and bayonets” and “ships that go underwater”
Obama’s disrespect to the Navy was astounding.
On all points of dispute - Romney was factually correct and Obama was telling lie after lie.
Romney is slow and deliberate - he gave Obama plenty of rope to hang himself with
[You wanted him to hammer Obama on Benghazi. I did as well.]
You can add me to that list, I was puzzled why this wasn’t hammered by Romney...until after the debate and I calmed down and started to think rationally.
Clearly, Romney had won the first two debates hands down but when it came to the Benghazi slaughter, the public has already decided obama was the root cause for the disaster.
When obama was preparing for the debates, he and his team probably come up with a ‘acceptable’ answer to that question.
Romney didn’t give him the chance.
Perhaps you all have a point, my reaction was emotional.
Living in the land of Lunatics makes one skeptical of many things, where Mitt is concerned, I choose to remain just so.
“His entire narrative leading up to it was “Obama is Dead”, Al Kiaeda is on their heels”.
You pulled a Bob Schieffer! :)
Romney didn’t give him the chance.
Bingo! I agree. Let Obama own it lock,stock and barrel. Now Mitt is free to use this on his interviews and stump speeches.
It took me awhile to figure this out last night, too. That is why I am not a Presidential candidate. It would have gotten ugly real fast with that lying Muslim usurper.
I may be getting a visit from the Secret Service.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2941609/posts#42
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When Romney goes on the attack, Obama will respond in one of two ways:
1 - Obama’s natural reaction to in-your-face aggression is to shrink. To be defensive. You can see it in his body language, his face, his tone...everything. He’s in a defensive posture.
He’s afraid. The deep instinct in him is to flee but he can’t flee. So he does the next best thing - he covers up. He looks away. Folds his arms. These are positions people get into when they are hiding weakness. For those of you who are not comfortable standing up and presenting to groups, think about what you’d do with your hands. You’d stuff them in your pockets or fold them across your chest. That’s the body doing what instinct tells it to - cover up so as to minimize exposure to danger. That’s basically what happened last week.
2 - If Obama forces himself past his instinctual reaction and fights back, I think he’s in even more trouble. How can he expect to fight against Mitt Romney’s debate points when he’s fighting against how own self? If he does decide to fight back it will come off as childish with a dash of sarcastic.
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I said that three weeks ago and even I couldn't believe he was that much of a petty child last night!
I keep wishing someone would channel Curtis LeMay onto Romney.
One of the beltway pundits made a comment about using horses in Afghanistan, but I don't have a confirming source. But If you think about it it makes sense given the terrain.
We will disagree with President Romney plenty - we know he has that liberal streak in him that we’ll have to reign in - but when it comes to campaigning and debating, the man knows what he’s doing and the proof is in the polls.
He’s not the thundering, fire breather looking to demolish his opponent (i.e. Newt). If he tried to be that, it wouldn’t work for him. It’s just not who he is.
I am 100% going to crawl over broken glass to vote for Romney but only because Obama MUST lose. I am working under the assumption that once Romney is President, we’ll have many times where we need to keep him on the right path.
[Let Obama own it lock,stock and barrel...]
Yes, this may have been one of the biggest reasons obama was so angry last night, he and his team spent so much time on this one point and it was never brought up.
Romney just let obama keep frantically digging away out of his deep hole.
Thinking about the debate in retrospect, I realized that actually a direct attack by Romney would not have worked, because Obama, no matter how clear and undeniable the facts, simply says “that’s not true” or blandly gives some other response that is an outright lie. This bothers him not in the least, partly because he knows that he can get away with it for the moment and nobody will read or hear about the corrections or “clarifications” the next day, and partly because he lives in a fantasy world where reality is whatever he says it is.
When Romney challenged Obama directly a few times last night, Obama just lied. And you can’t argue with somebody who won’t even acknowledge facts.
Random killing without a policy won’t accomplish anything. Bambi may enjoy sitting in the WH at night drawing up a kill list for his video-game like drones, but that’s not a Middle East policy and it doesn’t establish any objective that would give the killing any impact.
But of course the only real Middle East policy anybody in their right mind could have is one aimed at the total defeat of Islamism (which will probably take a lot more killing than drone strikes), and naturally Obama can’t even consider that.
After all the "stories" of what happened, with the State Dept. and CIA seeming to cover up for the President, I told my husband before the debate started that Romney has nothing to gain by hammering him on Libya, he'd just deny, and it would be a "he said, she said" as you described.
The more I think about it, the more I see Romney's thinking even though I still believe that he could have made Obama look like an idiot on Libya and Egypt. It was obvious that Obama wanted to engage on it and was unnerved when Romney wouldn't. More so, because Barry seems to have spent most of his prep on Libya and coming up with his Battleship comment, the Romney strategery opened up the rest of the debate to bash Obama on the apology tour, the distinction between Iran and Russia (he seriously hoisted Obama on his geopolitical petard on that one) and, of course, economics.
When Obama took the bait and moved fully into economics, I turned to my wife and said that I couldn't believe he was going to go down the same road that got his butt handed him by Romney the previous two debates. Obama even reopened the GM bankruptcy door for Romney which again provided the opportunity for him to make the distinction between going bankrupt and going through the orderly process of bankruptcy, making Obama again look foolish and lacking command of business and economic concepts.
Let's face it: We all wanted an MMA beatdown on Libya, but instead got a series of pressure point strikes that, while not as immediately satisfying as a beatdown, will ultimately do more damage.
No one’s suggesting random killing here. But the way to end wars is to win them. It’s doubtful that Romney has the will to do that. In fact, the last President we had with the will to end a war was Harry Truman.
Where we are, we need to either restore order through elimination of the enemies of freedom or get out. The bleeding of our soldiers must have purpose if we are to subject the nation to the pain of conflict.
I agree with you that the defeat of Islamism is the priority. But who will have the will to do it?
I agree with you - Bemghazi would have devolved into a he said, she said, mire of lies that Obama was ready for.
Obama’s strategy seems to be lie and figure that only a percentage will ever realize they’ve been had.
I think you are right on the money, mmai.
It could have made Romney look peeved had he pursued it strongly, and like someone said, Obama could have had all kinds of people working on that topic all week long to lay a trap.
LOL yep - would have been a nice finish - especially with the music...
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