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Krauthammer: Romney Won Unequivocally; Obama's Responses Were Petty
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| 10/23/2012
| Krauthammer
Posted on 10/23/2012 4:31:30 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: Mr Rogers
Day to day, they do not follow politics. They dont start listening until the debates, and then they dont have enough facts on hand to follow a detailed argument.
After the second debate, when Libya was raised, their response was, Of COURSE Obama was lying! He was embarrassed and so he lied. ALL PRESIDENTS DO THAT! Romney will lie too, if he gets elected. So what?
And given Romneys flip flops, I had no response.
Sure, you did. You point out how they don't follow politics, how they don't start listening until the debates, how they don't have enough facts on hand to follow a detailed argument but then turn around and make a claim about presidential candidates based entirely upon their ignorance.
The problem is not primarily that they don't follow politics. The problem is that they believe the little political stuff they do know (or think they know) is representative of what's actually out there. Their problem is that they believe the world actually is as they believe it to be. In other words, at least in political matters, they are still acting like children.
I know it won't do any good to tell them to grow up. Kids don't like to be told they're acting childish. Some of them never will grow up. But at least you can't point out their inconsistency of wanting to make a definitive judgment based on almost nothing. Ask them if they would run their businesses this way.
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posted on
10/23/2012 5:52:08 AM PDT
by
aruanan
To: PreciousLiberty
(Obama) doesnt come across well without the big grin and comic approach. Oh, not to worry. Today he'll be back at some safe community college somewhere, teleprompter in place, with god-like reverb resonating his every word. The Emperor is never far from his clothes.
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posted on
10/23/2012 5:54:33 AM PDT
by
The Citizen Soldier
(Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everyone stands around reloading.)
To: RoosterRedux
Never mind the little bastard patronizing Romney, did barry even tell the truth one time last night?
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posted on
10/23/2012 5:55:17 AM PDT
by
crosshairs
(America: Once the land of the free. Still the home of the brave.)
To: xzins
g liberals giving Romney credit for thoughtfulness and non-bellicosity.
Hope you are right xzins, truly, I do.
As an unhappy masshole, “I doubt it” (local joke!)
To: Norm Lenhart
Romney may have done what he needed to do politically here, but the meme that has gone on for some time about we cant kill our way out of this is exactly the reason that the muslims are gaining huevos and ramping up.
Yep. Thats the only way out of it. Kill every damn one of them. Even their children who are taught to hate and kill before they can even walk.
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posted on
10/23/2012 5:58:38 AM PDT
by
crosshairs
(America: Once the land of the free. Still the home of the brave.)
To: RoosterRedux
Also, considering that debates are mostly lies and spin, with no way to verify the truth, it is impossible to have a serious discussion.
Candidate #1: You ordered an attack on Smallville
Candidate #2: There is no such place. 2+2=5
Moderator: There is no such place, and we have never attacked anyone.
Why bother trying? The undecideds will make up their minds based on facial expressions, tone of voice, sweating, etc.
To: Old Teufel Hunden
I think your expectations were most likely different. You wanted him to hammer Obama on Benghazi. I did as well. There are a lot of people saying that he made the tactical decision not to and to appear Presidential. To you and I that's unsatisfying. However, Romney already has our votes. None of us hardcore types are staying home on election day as we despise Obama. He was going after the independents and undecideds. Perhaps this strategy is more appealing to them. Only time will be the answer to that. Well said, Devil Dog. Chris Wallace previewed Romney's strategy minutes before the debate. As another pundit wrote this morning, the demeanor of both candidates confirms that Romney has a solid lead, and Romney let the air out of the ball last night with a four corners offense that unnerved Obama and frustrated his plan to land a desperate knockout punch. Obama unwisely appeared condescending and bitter, while Romney appeared Presidential.
To: RoosterRedux
When the debates were originally scheduled, this third and final debate on foregin policy was supposed to be Obama's shinning moment.
His entire narrative leading up to it was "Obama is Dead", Al Kiaeda is on their heels".
All of the liberal spinners have beem proclaiming his foreign policy accumen for months now.
Unfortunately reality got in the way of his narrative.
This Bengazi story will continue to drip, drip, drip over these final two weeks. Making him look foolish for acting so superior and condescending towards Mitt durring the debate. Only some very big event (bombing Libya maybe) can help at this point.
Look for a "hail Mary".
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posted on
10/23/2012 6:02:47 AM PDT
by
thedrake
To: Old Teufel Hunden
Exactly. Romney was playing to independents and women and so he could not beat up on Obama too much. Attacking Obama harshly would satisfy our conservative bloodlust but might hurt him with women and independents.
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posted on
10/23/2012 6:05:04 AM PDT
by
Opinionated Blowhard
("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
To: acapesket
It isn't popular because it is simply wrong.
Polls after the debate showed Romney winning among undecided.
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posted on
10/23/2012 6:07:08 AM PDT
by
fortheDeclaration
(Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
To: acapesket
Last night removed Virginia from swing state to Romney.
Thats a win in my book.
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posted on
10/23/2012 6:07:08 AM PDT
by
italianquaker
(The 47 pct need to pay their fair share)
To: RochesterNYconservative
I think Romney is very smart not to get into the gutter with Obama. One of the biggest strengths Obama had in 2008 was that he appeared ‘above it all’, likable, and reasonable. His ‘likeability’ has been what has kept him afloat, despite the economy. By being aggressive and condescending, Obama has contributed significantly to the dismantling of his own image. He has likely hurt his ‘likeability’, and by letting him do it Romney played this smartly, IMHO.
To: acapesket
Where was I? On a different planet, apparently. Romney was horribly inneffective. Mitt avoided the minefields that the Left had laid for him. If he had been as aggressive as many of us had originally hoped, there was danger lurking. Did you notice how as things progressed, Zero seemed more agitated and frustrated? Mitt avoided the minefileds and it kept Zero from using what he thought was going to be the killing blow. The word on the street was that Mitt was goiung to be overly aggressive and the Zero campaign laid all their eggs in that basket. I think Mitt did better than most of us will ever know.
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posted on
10/23/2012 6:08:31 AM PDT
by
trebb
(Allies no longer trust us. Enemies no longer fear us.)
To: central_va
The goal is to win the election, not the debate.
That is what Romney did last night.
I know that makes many of you on FR very unhappy.
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posted on
10/23/2012 6:09:41 AM PDT
by
fortheDeclaration
(Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
To: RoosterRedux
This was a mine field for Romney. Agreed, he should have been more forceful on Benghazi. The RATS and the lib MSM were looking for something to label Romney as a war monger and they didn’t get it. Romney showed himself to be presidential all this to get the favor of independents and women (as a peace loving guy). People who have made up their minds won’t be swayed by this debate. Romney has plenty of areas to go after Obama and with the aid of his surrogates, this should not be a problem.
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posted on
10/23/2012 6:09:53 AM PDT
by
kenmcg
(t)
To: cripplecreek
When Obama said I stood with the people of Tunisia and Libya, Romney should have hammered him... He didn't need to. As you yourself noticed, Obama hammered himself.
To: Son House
And you think the details were going to come out in a debate.
Romney learned his lesson from the last debate, Obama will simply lie and the MSM will cover for him.
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posted on
10/23/2012 6:11:24 AM PDT
by
fortheDeclaration
(Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
To: Son House
It would have looked like Romney was using Libya for political reasons.
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posted on
10/23/2012 6:16:39 AM PDT
by
fortheDeclaration
(Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
To: mware
My favorite lines.
By the way, you didn’t go to Israel.
By the way, they noticed.”””
These lines had impact, IMO.
Obama has not been to Israel during his tenure as President.
He did visit Israel before he was sworn in, and I think even before the 2008 election. Yet, he has castigated Romney for doing such a visit this year.
He has been to countries all around Israel, but not the place he calls ‘our best ally in the region’.
Pelosi & Reid can claim anything they wish about how many times Obama has been to Israel as President, but they are lying.
As the saying goes—you can have your own clothes, car & house. You cannot have your own facts.
To: crosshairs
A freeper once said a while back that there is an N-number of Islamics that will need to be killed before this is over.
It chillled my blood.
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posted on
10/23/2012 6:20:19 AM PDT
by
Chickensoup
(STOP The Great O-ppression)
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