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Romney gaffe: 'Syria is Iran's route to the sea'
Guardian ^ | 10/23/12 | Saeed Kamali Dehghan

Posted on 10/23/2012 9:22:01 AM PDT by Uncle Slayton

Mitt Romney is not particularly new to gaffes but when it comes to one about the relationship between Syria and Iran, he has shown extraordinary courage in repeating it at least six times just in the past year.

During last night's foreign policy debate, Romney said: "Syria is Iran's only ally in the Arab world. It's their route to the sea."

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012debates; gaffe; geography; middleeast; nongaffes; romney; syria
They are working hard to take Mitt out of context.
1 posted on 10/23/2012 9:22:01 AM PDT by Uncle Slayton
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To: Uncle Slayton

Such a gaffe that neither Schieffer or Obama questioned the statement.

The Guardian is a communist rag.


2 posted on 10/23/2012 9:25:23 AM PDT by nhwingut (Single Issue Voter: Obama Must Go!)
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To: Uncle Slayton

Syria does have Mediterranean coastline. Where’s the gaffe?


3 posted on 10/23/2012 9:27:01 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Uncle Slayton
It's their route to the sea.

Well, it all depends on which sea the Iranians seek access to. They already have access to the Caspian Sea. If a route to the Black Sea is what Iran seeks, then Romney made a gaffe. However, if it is a route to the Mediterranean Sea, then Syria would lay on that path and it was no gaffe.

4 posted on 10/23/2012 9:27:18 AM PDT by fso301
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To: Uncle Slayton

Syria provides Iran with a strategic presence on the Mediterranean seacoast.


5 posted on 10/23/2012 9:27:53 AM PDT by Genoa (Starve the beast.)
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To: Uncle Slayton
'Syria is Iran's route to the sea'

I can't figure out what he meant by that...


6 posted on 10/23/2012 9:28:11 AM PDT by Baynative
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To: Baynative

Its the way they transport the oil out of there.


7 posted on 10/23/2012 9:29:38 AM PDT by Boardwalk
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To: fso301
Problem is, the two countries don't border each other. While its not implausible to think of traffic slipping through northern Iraq or southern Turkey, that really can't account for a strategic corridor.
8 posted on 10/23/2012 9:29:49 AM PDT by kevkrom (If a wise man has an argument with a foolish man, the fool only rages or laughs...)
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To: kevkrom
Corridors is as corridors does.

9 posted on 10/23/2012 9:31:45 AM PDT by Genoa (Starve the beast.)
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To: Uncle Slayton

Syria is key for Iran for any Iranian led attack on Israel. The sea is Romney’s euphemism for Israel.


10 posted on 10/23/2012 9:32:49 AM PDT by bjc (Check the data!!)
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To: Uncle Slayton

I caught that... Syria is Iran’s route to the Mediterranean Sea and Europe... Mitt should have said the word “Mediterranean”.

Do these geography whiz liberals seriously think that all that Iranian oil goes underneath Africa and then back north for thousands of miles to get to Europe???


11 posted on 10/23/2012 9:34:00 AM PDT by bryan999
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To: Baynative

Romney was right.

Iran does not have access to a sea, but rather only has access to a gulf, the Persian Gulf.

And the Caspian sea is not a technically a sea, but rather a large lake.

That is the way the Romney team needs to spin this one.


12 posted on 10/23/2012 9:37:02 AM PDT by Uncle Slayton
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13 posted on 10/23/2012 9:47:08 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (My faith and politics cannot be separated)
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To: Baynative

“U.S. Americans are unable to do so because, uh, some,
uh. . . people out there in our nation don’t have maps.”


15 posted on 10/23/2012 9:57:16 AM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Monarchy is the one system of government where power is exercised for the good of all - Aristotle)
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To: Uncle Slayton
That is the way the Romney team needs to spin this one.

Or say that is the way Iranian oil is smuggled out in violation of the sanctions. That way crosses Iraq, but Iraq is much friendlier to Iran after we left.

16 posted on 10/23/2012 9:59:11 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Big Bird is a brood parasite: laid in our nest 43 years ago and we are still feeding him.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Iran has it’s own coastline on the Persian Gulf. It’s just not on the Mediterranean, which would give access to European markets.


17 posted on 10/23/2012 9:59:45 AM PDT by married21 (As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: kevkrom
Problem is, the two countries don't border each other. While its not implausible to think of traffic slipping through northern Iraq or southern Turkey, that really can't account for a strategic corridor.

From a real estate standpoint, if you want to acquire a large parcel, you may have to purchase discontiguous parcels and piece them together.

In the Middle East, with a defenseless Iraq rapidly becoming an Iranian vassal, things are going Iran's way. A contiguous land corridor from Iran to the Mediterranean Sea is just a matter of time.

18 posted on 10/23/2012 10:02:25 AM PDT by fso301
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To: Uncle Slayton
Iran is going to build a natural gas pipeline through Iraq and Syria to the Mediterranean Sea so gas can be sold to Europe.

Perhaps that is what Mitt is referring to.

19 posted on 10/23/2012 10:08:04 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (Obama: "If you've got a business -- you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen.")
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To: fatasshick
All of the oil pipelines lead right to the Gulf adjacent to Iran, Iraq, etc

In case you haven't noticed, Irans and Iraq haven't been on speaking terms for 30 years.

Syria may have been Iraq's route to the sea. (Currently Turkey is). But Iraq is not Iran, They are not joined.

Romney was completely inaccurate.

20 posted on 10/23/2012 10:11:50 AM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Monarchy is the one system of government where power is exercised for the good of all - Aristotle)
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To: Uncle Slayton

Don’t they speak Syrian in Syria?


21 posted on 10/23/2012 10:19:09 AM PDT by wny
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To: Oztrich Boy

“In case you haven’t noticed, Irans and Iraq haven’t been on speaking terms for 30 years. “

In case you haven’t noticed, Saddam Hussein was in charge of Iraq for most of that time and even started a war in the 80’s. Iran and Iraq are much closer now.


22 posted on 10/23/2012 10:20:42 AM PDT by ari-freedom
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To: RoosterRedux

“Iran is going to build a natural gas pipeline through Iraq and Syria to the Mediterranean Sea so gas can be sold to Europe. “

Well, there we go.


23 posted on 10/23/2012 10:22:02 AM PDT by ari-freedom
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To: Uncle Slayton

He’s channeling Xenophon:

Thalassa! Thalassa!


24 posted on 10/23/2012 10:22:42 AM PDT by Argus
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To: Boardwalk

Iran has a long coastline along the “Persian” Gulf and the Arabian Sea. However, access to the Mediterrean is problematic, and the logistical difficulties substantial. The eastern Mediterrean gives them access to Israel.


25 posted on 10/23/2012 10:23:57 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Obama: Brought to you by the letter "O" and the number 16 trillion.)
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To: Baynative

Obviously he meant the Mediterranean.


26 posted on 10/23/2012 10:26:50 AM PDT by libh8er
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To: ari-freedom; Oztrich Boy

Indeed. Many lefties say that Bush’s elimination of the Hussein regime has given Iran considerable control over Iraq.


27 posted on 10/23/2012 10:30:16 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: Baynative

Another post explains it. This is from another poster named WhiskeyX:

Romney was speaking in the context of the debate topic on foreign policy and the sanctions restricting the finances and trade of Iran. Although Iran is indeed located on the seacoast of the Indian Ocean and the Persian Gulf, the international trade sanctions have restricted and impeded its ability to transport armaments and other goods through its own seaports. To defeat these trade sanctions, Iran has resorted to using its air transportation to transport goods through an air corridor in Iraqi airspace into Syria and its seaports, such as Latakia.


28 posted on 10/23/2012 10:33:33 AM PDT by schaef21
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To: kevkrom

Iran flies through Iraqi airspace to Syria for what that is worth.


29 posted on 10/23/2012 10:34:54 AM PDT by rushmom
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To: RoosterRedux
"...Perhaps that is what Mitt is referring to."

What Mitt referred to was Iran's inability to use its own seaports due to international sanctions. This necessitates Iran flying exports via an air route through Iraq to Syrian seaports like Tartous, Borj Islam and Lattakia.

This is the remarkable detail of which Romney is clearly aware, and which his detractors are lying about by not mentioning, the despicable filth.

;-\

30 posted on 10/23/2012 10:35:15 AM PDT by Gargantua ("Barbie O'Bunga ~ America's First Fly-Strewn, Maggot-Gagging Fag President")
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To: Uncle Slayton

Anyone who calls THAT a gaffe is ignorant of modern (1970+) Middle East history and politics ...or lying

Mitt is right on about Syria being Iran’s route to the Sea- the Mediterranean Sea

Iran among all OPEC supplied the penniless Syrian dictator al Assad with oil for the past 30 years in return for Syria’s loyal (well, rented) support of Iran during contentious OPEC relationships during the Iran-Iraq war

In the 90’s Syria provided Iran with access to its airfields and an airbridge bridge into southern Europe when Tehran began sending a flood of arms and Iranian Rev Guard “advisors” to muslims fighting the Serbs...an action that spurred Bubba Clinton and NATO to intervene in the Balkans to prevent a muslim radicalization of the Kosovars and an Iranian presence in strategic southeastern Europe.

Syria now provides Iran with access to send weapons and advisors to help Syrian and Lebanon based terror groups targeting Israel. Although the Syrian civil war has temporarily diverted the Assad regimes ability to project itself abroad.

So, for decades, Iran’s buddying up to the penniless Syria, which had nothing to offer Tehran except its geography and political support, has kept Iran a player in the so-called “Palestinian” struggle and also kept Lebanon and Iraq (and to a lesser extent Turkey Jordan and Israel) off balance and forcrd to consider Iran’s interests in the Levant.

Iran and Syria have long had a strategic geopolitical alliance (also bolstered by their military relationship with Russia) that Mitt has recognized, and which complicates current options for the US to intervene in the Syrian civil war....making obama’s clumsy back-channel gun running through Libya (if that is what triggered benghazi) a very dangerous affair

The fact anyone ridiculed Mitt Romney’s statement ..... means they need to get out and read a little more.

They can dislike Romney, but would it be too much to ask if they at least find an honest objection?


31 posted on 10/23/2012 10:36:31 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: kevkrom

Yeah, Iran has shown such respect for Iraq’s borders.


32 posted on 10/23/2012 10:36:39 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (So?)
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To: Gargantua

I forgot about Iran using Syria to evade sanctions
Good point- thanks


33 posted on 10/23/2012 10:42:35 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: Oztrich Boy

No, Romney was extremely accurate from a recent (30+ years) geopolitical perspective

and then there is this
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/syria/9092853/Iranian-naval-ships-dock-in-Syria.html


34 posted on 10/23/2012 10:47:20 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: Uncle Slayton
That's okay. At least Romney's not in favor of cancer. Obama is for cancer!


35 posted on 10/23/2012 11:19:43 AM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: kevkrom

If you re-establish order in Syria, Iranian planes have no allied airports to land planes. Iran could fly over an ever-increasingly chaotic Iraq, but the major point is, confine Iran so that it has pretty much nowhere to go.


36 posted on 10/23/2012 11:21:16 AM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: silverleaf

Thanks, if that’s the case, then Romney has really been up to date on the news.


37 posted on 10/23/2012 11:22:23 AM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: Oztrich Boy

Iran, which can’t export things directly because of sanctions, is circumventing the sanctions by smuggling things, mostly by air, across Iraq and into Syria, where they are loaded in Syrian ports.

This was a foreign policy debate, and about Iran and the sanctions. Romney was accurately stating how Syria is helping Iran get around the sanctions, and how the Obama administration isn’t effectively controlling this.


38 posted on 10/23/2012 11:45:53 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CharlesWayneCT

My concern here is where there may also be influences from the Russians or Chinese, but Obama thinking that being suspicious of the Russians is so 1950s or 1980s, isn’t willing to do!


39 posted on 10/23/2012 12:21:45 PM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: Uncle Slayton

Retards. What would they say to the statment: “All roads lead to Rome.”


40 posted on 10/23/2012 4:12:27 PM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: schaef21
"To defeat these trade sanctions, Iran has resorted to using its air transportation to transport goods through an air corridor in Iraqi airspace into Syria and its seaports, such as Latakia."

The majority of their economy is based on oil and gas. Can they be transporting that by air?

41 posted on 10/23/2012 5:50:44 PM PDT by Baynative
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To: Baynative
The majority of their economy is based on oil and gas. Can they be transporting that by air?

Persian rugs...

42 posted on 10/23/2012 6:17:20 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA; Ignorance on parade.)
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