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Electoral College tie could pair Romney with Biden [with just NM and OH flipped from 2004]
TribLIVE ^ | 10/19/2012 | Salena Zito

Posted on 10/23/2012 3:22:59 PM PDT by JediJones

All Obama has to do is win every state Kerry won in 2004 plus New Mexico and Ohio, and he ties Romney 269-269.

Note that, by current RCP polling averages, this remains plausible. Every safe or leaning state would stay put and the current swing states would be split along 2004 lines, except for Ohio.

That means, assuming no electors go "rogue" and vote for the other party, next year the new House picks the President and the new Senate picks the Vice President.

In the House, each state gets 1 vote among the top 3 EV vote-getters, virtually guaranteeing Romney wins easily with well over 26 states already having a majority of Republican representatives.

The Senate picks the V.P. by a simply majority of votes among the Senators from among the top 2 EV vote-getters. So to prevent Biden from becoming V.P., the Republicans need to pick up 4 Senate seats.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: barackobama; electoralcollege; joebiden; mittromney

1 posted on 10/23/2012 3:23:00 PM PDT by JediJones
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To: JediJones

See 12th Amendment for details.


2 posted on 10/23/2012 3:24:35 PM PDT by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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To: JediJones

LOL first it was Obama was inevitable, now it’s a electoral college tie, I love leftist talking points.


3 posted on 10/23/2012 3:26:59 PM PDT by erod
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To: JediJones

Good thing Veeps have no real power


4 posted on 10/23/2012 3:29:06 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: erod
There are a bunch of Conservatives out there who worked up the tie in electoral votes and a trip to the NEW HOUSE of Representatives.

Leftwingtards laughed at the time. So did the Mittbots.

I'd love for it to happen to see how it really works ~ I see heavily armed troops protecting the Capitol building for one thing, and constant overflights of jet fighters with all the airports in the area shut down for the vote.

We have already laid in some extra canned goods and toilet paper

5 posted on 10/23/2012 3:29:58 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: JediJones
with well over 26 states already having a majority of Republican representatives.

Do they? Are we sure?

Assuming none of the RINO's wants to be a media-loved hero

6 posted on 10/23/2012 3:30:40 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: JediJones

Now THAT would be fun!


7 posted on 10/23/2012 3:30:59 PM PDT by GnL
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To: JediJones

I would expect to see Joe sent off on a lot of hand-shaking missions to places like Lower Slobbovia.


8 posted on 10/23/2012 3:31:27 PM PDT by Iron Munro (Psalm 109:8 "Let his days be few, and let another take his office.")
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To: JediJones
The liberal media is really desperately grasping at straws now. It's delicious watching how they squirm now that the president that they have coddled and protected since he attained prominence is going down in flames.
I imagine on the day after election and they survey the absolute route of their making they ignored for four years they will turn to each other and ask how could this be, no one they know would vote Republican.
Chris Matthews public mental meltdown, especially in the last month is the best example of what is going on inside the liberal press.
9 posted on 10/23/2012 3:32:49 PM PDT by McCloud-Strife ( USA 1776-2008)
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To: JediJones

This scenario would be met with general rioting and mayhem, with a real potential for CW2. Let’s hope it doesn’t happen.


10 posted on 10/23/2012 3:34:26 PM PDT by jboot (This isn't your father's America. Stay safe and keep your powder dry.)
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To: GeronL

Yeah, I think it’s 33 or so now.

Another interesting thing is that this potential “tie” map would have represented a LOSS to Republicans in 2004. But all the states in it gained a cumulative 8 EVs since 2004, so the EV total moved up from 261 to 269. (Ohio itself lost 2 EVs, making it a little less of a pickup for the Dems.)

That’s what high income taxes and abortion’ll do to your blue areas on the map.


11 posted on 10/23/2012 3:36:50 PM PDT by JediJones (ROMNEY/RYAN: TURNAROUND ARTISTS ***** OBAMA/BIDEN: BULL $HIT ARTISTS)
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To: JediJones
Obama supporters trash #OIHO
12 posted on 10/23/2012 3:37:59 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (Winning is Everything.)
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To: JediJones

To prevent this from happening, and assuming only current RCP swing states are in play, Romney needs to flip at least one of the below swing states off the hypothetical blue map and onto the red:

Pennsylvania (20)
Ohio (18)
Michigan (16)
Wisconsin (10)
New Hampshire (4)

Or he can prevent it by winning 1 EV from Maine, which splits 2 of their EVs between their 2 districts.


13 posted on 10/23/2012 3:46:14 PM PDT by JediJones (ROMNEY/RYAN: TURNAROUND ARTISTS ***** OBAMA/BIDEN: BULL $HIT ARTISTS)
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To: McCloud-Strife
I imagine on the day after election and they survey the absolute route of their making they ignored for four years they will turn to each other and ask how could this be,

And the next 21/2 months will be chaos as Obama and the Marxists try to complete a century's worth of destruction in record time. Be prepared for anything and everything. Mittens will have his hands full, "You Betcha".

14 posted on 10/23/2012 3:50:09 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: GnL

It would serve Joe right. He would have to sit there for four years to break every tie, lol. Lie being in Purgatory for his sins.


15 posted on 10/23/2012 3:52:49 PM PDT by ez (When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail.)
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To: muawiyah
FRiend I think that on Nov 6, you'll be presently surprised - this thing isn't even going to be close. The left has egg on their face, there's still some heavily dem skewed polls in those samples for the RCP electoral map, and those polls are propping up the false perception of an electoral tie. But, in the end the polls will balance out and Romney will cement his lead. They have to catch up to reality so they keep their small legitimacy of fairness.

It's good to be prepared for a disaster though, so keep your stocks up ;)

16 posted on 10/23/2012 4:22:54 PM PDT by erod
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To: McCloud-Strife

‘they (liberal media) will turn to each other and ask how could this be, no one they know would vote Republican.’

They will be just like Hillary and Obama, wondering how the death of the ambassador and 3 others could have occurred.


17 posted on 10/23/2012 4:43:26 PM PDT by taterjay
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To: erod
once upon a time FDR flipped Hoover ~ and that's what Mitt has to do to Obamagube ~ 10 million votes have to disappear on the Democrat side and appear on the Republican side ~ and it doesn't take a poll to tell you that's a lot of votes.

BTW, after discovering that we are down to a 9% response rate on polls I don't think any of them are of any use, but as the candidates themselves approach zero popularity ~ the poll trend should be that of a tie, which is what they are showing.

It's time for Romney to get out and ask Republicans to vote for him ~ he's pretty much spent all his time begging for undecided noncommited voters ~ and they're still uncommited and have not decided ~ so much for that crowd ~ they don't even vote.

18 posted on 10/23/2012 4:50:25 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Repeal 16-17

While the Vice President would have a role as President of the Senate, he has only the executive powers assigned to him by the President. Romney would give him no such powers; Biden wouldn’t event get an office in the White House. So “Vie President” would be, for Biden, a largely ceremonial title. UNLESS - something should happen to President Romney; then we have an idiot as President.


19 posted on 10/23/2012 5:03:47 PM PDT by BCrago66
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To: JediJones

Never going to happen. If there was a tie, a GOP elector would just happen to fall off a ladder or die in a car accident. Or else, they could apply the John Roberts treatment to a ‘wavering’ elector.


20 posted on 10/23/2012 5:05:42 PM PDT by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est; zero sera dans l'enfer bientot)
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To: Iron Munro

If Biden were Romney’s VP, he would preside over the Senate. That is his constitutional role. There, he would get a vote only to break a tie. His other role would be to swear in new Senators. He would get little or nothing else. No trips to shake hands anywhere. The President runs the executive branch of the US Government, and the new President would in all likelihood cut funding to the VP’s office and not make life easy for the knucklehead. Also, extra Secret Service protection for the President would be warranted for obvious reasons.


21 posted on 10/23/2012 5:10:02 PM PDT by Combat_Liberalism
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To: BCrago66
So “Vice President” would be, for Biden, a largely ceremonial title. UNLESS - something should happen to President Romney; then we have an idiot as President.

That's why Biden being Vice President would not be ceremonial. It would be a massive incentive for every Liberal attempt to assassinate President Romney. Such attempts would unquestionably happen.

22 posted on 10/23/2012 6:31:37 PM PDT by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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