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Obama Unnerved by Ohio?
nationalreview.com ^ | Michael Knox Beran

Posted on 10/23/2012 3:37:03 PM PDT by tsowellfan

Talk about the sullen presage of a campaign’s decay. Something was wrong with President Obama last night, to judge by his performance. Was Ohio on his mind? An AP story says that the Obama campaign is now talking about a way to win without taking the state...

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: election2012; obama; oh; ohio




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1 posted on 10/23/2012 3:37:04 PM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: tsowellfan

” An AP story says that the Obama campaign is now talking about a way to win without taking the state...”

Well, voter fraud has already started in Florida.


2 posted on 10/23/2012 3:40:16 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ((God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.))
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To: tsowellfan

Obama was thinking about how nice the weather will be in Hawaii in January when compared to DC.


3 posted on 10/23/2012 3:43:00 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA (The truth hurts)
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To: tsowellfan

It’s the ghost of Joe the Plumber.

Karma’s a bitch, eh?


4 posted on 10/23/2012 3:45:14 PM PDT by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: tsowellfan

“But even if Obama loses Ohio, his campaign sees another pathway to the presidency by nailing New Hampshire, Iowa, Wisconsin, Nevada and Colorado.”

Bad news for BO!

He will lose Ohio, Colorado, and New Hampshire.

Iowa, Wisocnsin, and Nevada, may still be in play, but it won’t be enough, even with PA.


5 posted on 10/23/2012 3:57:32 PM PDT by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: tsowellfan
Something was wrong with President Obama last night, to judge by his performance.

I think Obama and his team fully expected the majority of the debate to center around Benghazi (so did I.) Based on that assumption, they put a lot of time and energy preparing for that issue, and came up with a game plan that they felt would crush Romney. Romney, however, employed a "rope-a-dope" strategy, staying completely away from the subject. As a result, Obama was growing more and more frustrated as the evening progressed, because the scenario he envisioned that would be Romney's undoing never materialized.

6 posted on 10/23/2012 3:59:10 PM PDT by GreenHornet
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To: GreenHornet

“I think Obama and his team fully expected the majority of the debate to center around Benghazi (so did I.) Based on that assumption, they put a lot of time and energy preparing for that issue, and came up with a game plan that they felt would crush Romney. Romney, however, employed a “rope-a-dope” strategy, staying completely away from the subject. As a result, Obama was growing more and more frustrated as the evening progressed, because the scenario he envisioned that would be Romney’s undoing never materialized.”

I think this is 100% true.


7 posted on 10/23/2012 4:03:13 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: tsowellfan
Photobucket I fixed it.....
8 posted on 10/23/2012 4:05:53 PM PDT by baddog 219
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To: GreenHornet

that’s the way things go when you stop and pray like Romney did prior to entering the debate. It’s hard to beat the strategy of Divine guidance!


9 posted on 10/23/2012 4:09:37 PM PDT by tired&retired
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To: baddog 219

3 million copies of that, paid for by whom? Instant recycle material.


10 posted on 10/23/2012 4:12:00 PM PDT by Jumpmaster (Defund the Left!)
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To: GreenHornet
As a result, Obama was growing more and more frustrated as the evening progressed, because the scenario he envisioned that would be Romney's undoing never materialized

I agree. Obama sat hunched over with staring, hooded eyes...just like a vulture. He was ready to pounce as soon as Romney started in.

His energy drained as he realized he was never going to be able to deliver what he had trained for.

11 posted on 10/23/2012 4:15:18 PM PDT by what's up
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To: GreenHornet

Correct. The Chicago Mob had set another trap with Schieffer, the same way they had wit Crowley—but Mitt saw it coming. WELL PLAYED MITT.


12 posted on 10/23/2012 4:16:45 PM PDT by SC_Pete
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To: baddog 219
Obama Propoganda ...

Good but I think you should change the other line as well. I suggest changing it to "A PLAN FOR MY JOB" since it certainly is not for the average person's job.

13 posted on 10/23/2012 4:21:53 PM PDT by SES1066 (Government is NOT the reason for my existence!)
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To: GreenHornet

I don’t watch the debates, I read the transcripts so I concentrate on what they think.

Here’s my take

Romney has run a brilliant campaign. Last nights debate proved it to me. You can’t debate too strongly against the incumbent when it comes to foreign policy. The Incumbent has such a huge positional advantage on current matters.

Romney deftly avoided the pitfalls of debating the Incumbent by pre-debate feinting on Benghazi, then making the focus on traditional foreign policy such as military strength and America’s role in the world. It was about Romney making himself look reasonable and knowledgeable. HE even managed to pull OBama into a trap on Military strength — making him opposed to it.

Romney avoided the pitfalls of a town hall type debate by not going into social theories and not coming across as snotty or snobbish.

Romney’s chief criticism came during the first debate, on American Economic policy ... where Obama was the weakest, he made his strongest attacks. “You pick the losers” was the best line I’ve ever heard in a campaign.

Romney played rope a dope up until the first debate. He hung back, didn’t try and define himself, didn’t waste his money pre-debate while allowing Obama to wast all that air time prior. Now Obama is going to come up short money wise as the first debate wiped all the negatives away that OBama had spent considerable time and effort building up.

Sun Tsu would be proud.


14 posted on 10/23/2012 4:35:17 PM PDT by Usagi_yo
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To: GreenHornet

“Romney, however, employed a “rope-a-dope” strategy, staying completely away from the subject.”

Immortal word attributed to George W. Bush:

“Strategery.”


15 posted on 10/23/2012 4:38:31 PM PDT by TEXOKIE (Nobody made a greater mistake than he who did nothing because he could do only a little. EdmondBurke)
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To: GreenHornet
I watched the debate, and all I heard was Romney agreeing with Obama's foreign policies, and not hitting him on Benghazi. What's wrong with him, I yelled to a totally uncaring television set.

Then it dawned on me. Romney's strategy was nothing shor of political genius. Obama, of course was waiting with baited breath for the attack that never materialized. It reduced him to jeuvenile responses.("they have ships that airplanes land on...")

But he did something else. According to the MSM, Obama leads on foreign policy (gag). Romney leads on economic policy. So he neutralized foreign policy. If you liked Romney for economics, but was afraid that he would be a shoot-from-the-hip cowboy (that was how they would have portrayed him), you can rest easy. Romney would do what Obama has done. So that leaved the major difference between the two economics. How could the press criticize Romney's foreign policy if he said that he would basically do what Obama has done? They are playing on the battlefied of Romney's choosing.

16 posted on 10/23/2012 4:38:32 PM PDT by fhayek
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To: Usagi_yo
I don’t watch the debates, I read the transcripts so I concentrate on what they think.

Watching and reading would be like two completely different debates. A reader has no idea of nobama's body language, his stares at Romney, etc. You missed a damn good debate.

17 posted on 10/23/2012 4:41:07 PM PDT by upchuck (Barack Obama has become a joke. The only problem is that it's not funny. ~ William L. Gensert)
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To: tired&retired

The God of the Mormons is the same as the Jewish and Christian GOD. The one TRUE God.

1) Oblunder is a Muslim = prays to false god
2) RATS are godless cretins = don’t pray
3) People who acknowledge and worship the true God have their prayers answered.

We’re gonna win this thing!

JESUS declared that where two or three were at in His name, not only would He be there, but what they asked for—in agreement—He would do. (Matthew 18:18-20).

Can I get an Amen!!!


18 posted on 10/23/2012 4:43:01 PM PDT by diverteach (If I find liberals in heaven after my death.....I WILL BE PISSED!!!)
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To: G Larry

He will lose New Jersey, Delaware, New Hampshire as well.


19 posted on 10/23/2012 4:55:09 PM PDT by castlegreyskull
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To: tsowellfan

Eventually I would like to see the headline, “Obama Unnerved by Looming Federal Indictment.”


20 posted on 10/23/2012 5:04:05 PM PDT by GnL
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To: GnL

“Eventually I would like to see the headline, “Obama Unnerved by Looming Federal Indictment.””

From your lips {keyboard} to G+d’s ear!!!


21 posted on 10/23/2012 5:13:16 PM PDT by BullDog108 (FUBO)
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To: upchuck

I watch the debate after reading. You really do get a sense of what they’re thinking if you just concentrate on what they are thinking, then re-evaluate when watching the debate.

And you would be surprised how accurate your BS meter is just from reading.


22 posted on 10/23/2012 5:15:59 PM PDT by Usagi_yo
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To: diverteach

Amen.

Obama was in Dayton, OH today at a small outdoor park.


23 posted on 10/23/2012 5:24:11 PM PDT by Faith
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To: fhayek

The concept I thought of this morning to describe it: Bypassing Rabaul.

During WW2, the Japanese built a massive strategic base on the southwestern Pacific island of Rabaul, including a sizable airfield and massive troop concentrations. They were certain that any Allied attempts to move northwest from Australia would involve an attempted invasion of their island citadel, which they were fully prepared to resist.

We recognized this, and instead “island hopped” our way around Rabaul and left it behind. The forces on the island spent the rest of the war dodging bombs, growing their own food and twiddling their thumbs, all the while wondering what happened.

As Sun Tzu or Clausewitz might have said, don’t meet your enemy where he expects (or wants) you to.


24 posted on 10/23/2012 5:31:05 PM PDT by M1903A1 ("We shed all that is good and virtuous for that which is shoddy and sleazy... and call it progress")
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To: tsowellfan

Maybe it was what The Donald is set to reveal, but I don’t see how he could’ve been more condescending, childish, boorish and generally an a$$hole.


25 posted on 10/23/2012 5:31:48 PM PDT by The Sons of Liberty ( For AMERICA's sake: Vote for the Mormon, NOT the muslim; The Capitalist, NOT the Communist!)
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To: diverteach
The God of the Mormons is the same as the Jewish and Christian GOD. The one TRUE God.

Wrong. Mormons believe that God was once a man and had physical sex with Mary. Mormons worship a false god, a false jesus and a false prophet.

26 posted on 10/23/2012 5:44:00 PM PDT by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: GreenHornet

I agree that Romney was very strategic last night. I know we were initially frustrated because he didn’t attack. But you could see Obama getting aggitated as the debate went on. I first noticed when on the first question, Romney complemented Obama on killing OBL. Obama rocked back in his chair and had a look of desparation on his face. Romney had circumvented on of his primary attacks.

The apology tour exchange totally devastated Obama.


27 posted on 10/23/2012 6:19:02 PM PDT by gswilder
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To: tsowellfan

This is a lie. Caddell and Schoen were on Hannity tonight and both claimed that Zero was way ahead in Ohio and was gonna win Wisconsin and has the election in the bag. And they cannot possibly be wrong. I mean, they are experts and all. /sarcasm


28 posted on 10/23/2012 7:30:19 PM PDT by Prince of Space (Be Breitbart, baby!)
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To: Prince of Space

Disappointing to hear. I have a lot of respect for Caddell, not so much for Schoen.

I would imagine they are looking at internal polling. Sure hope they are wrong.


29 posted on 10/23/2012 7:48:40 PM PDT by comebacknewt (Newt (sigh) what could have been . . .)
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To: Usagi_yo

Oh, I thought you wrote that you don’t watch the debates. Post #14?


30 posted on 10/23/2012 8:06:25 PM PDT by upchuck (Barack Obama has become a joke. The only problem is that it's not funny. ~ William L. Gensert)
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To: tsowellfan

That picture of the bible and the guns is just rediculous. Seriously, that over the top imagery is why conservatives lose elections and why we lampooned like we do. I agree with sentiment but, can’t you just make a list of the ammendments of the constitution and leave it at that? Present yourself as the reasoned intellectual that you are..and your opinions will be more respected.


31 posted on 10/23/2012 8:22:43 PM PDT by Mustangman (The GOP)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

I guess the illegal immigrants have settled into Ohio just yet, then. Obama better get some more truck loads in there or the fraud won’t take hold.


32 posted on 10/23/2012 8:24:24 PM PDT by Mustangman (The GOP)
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To: GreenHornet

I totally agree with this analysis. Bill O’Reily and others have just been jumping on Romney but, it was a loser in terms of appearing presidential. Heck, even Alan Colms throws enough BS upthere to muddy the situation. Romney was smart to avoid any and all petty arguments over Benghazi details, facts, and who said what and when.

The Benghazi situation is already killing Obama. There was no need for Romney to become part of the story. He’s already won the argument without engaging in it. How cool is that??

I bet Obama was pooring over Benghazi details, weaving his story, planning one-liners, and zingers for four straight days. It must have really pissed Obama off when Romney took a pass. Obama studied for the wrong test.

Again, I was very impressed with Romney’s strategy. The debate was like watching a big tall kid holding a ball above his and the little kid jumping in vain trying to get it and this was very very clear!!!

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33 posted on 10/23/2012 8:33:41 PM PDT by Mustangman (The GOP)
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To: upchuck

I don’t, not until I’ve read the transcripts. Is there an issue here?


34 posted on 10/23/2012 10:16:57 PM PDT by Usagi_yo
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To: tired&retired
that’s the way things go when you stop and pray like Romney did prior to entering the debate. It’s hard to beat the strategy of Divine guidance!

Romney is not a Christian. That being said I am sure many Christians prayers were answered. Thank you LORD Jesus Christ, God come in the flesh. One and only God, the Holy Trinity, not other gods before The LORD God Almighty, who was never a man who worked his way up to becoming a god, but was always very God of very God. Amen.

35 posted on 10/23/2012 10:21:38 PM PDT by Bellflower (The LORD is Holy, separated from all sin, perfect, righteous, high and lifted up.)
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To: diverteach

Jesus said that there would be many false Christs. The Mormon god is definitely and most assuradly not the God of the Bible. The God of The Bible is the one and only God. There are no other gods anywhere, ever. He wasn’t a man who worked his way to becoming a god of this universe, while there may be many gods of other universes. No human being will ever become the god of their own universe or planet. There is only one God and He has been eternally God, forever and always will be the only God forever and ever on into eternity. He is The Almighty, Creator of all that ever was, or ever will be. The god of the Mormons is not the Christian God.


36 posted on 10/23/2012 10:29:57 PM PDT by Bellflower (The LORD is Holy, separated from all sin, perfect, righteous, high and lifted up.)
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To: G Larry

Hasn’t Romney pulled into the lead in CO?


37 posted on 10/23/2012 10:31:47 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Mustangman
That picture of the bible and the guns is just rediculous. Seriously, that over the top imagery is why conservatives lose elections and why we lampooned like we do. I agree with sentiment but, can’t you just make a list of the ammendments of the constitution and leave it at that? Present yourself as the reasoned intellectual that you are..and your opinions will be more respected.

I didn't post any image in this thread.

38 posted on 10/23/2012 11:10:22 PM PDT by tsowellfan (KEEP WORKING like we are 10 POINTS DOWN!!!!)
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To: Prince of Space

Did they? If so, that was rather a turnaround from their appearance on their own weekly show on Sunday afternoon.


39 posted on 10/24/2012 3:52:06 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Voter fraud already started in North Carolina too.

Voters saying their vote for Romney kept defaulting back to Obama.


40 posted on 10/24/2012 4:08:03 AM PDT by dforest
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To: Bellflower

“Romney is not a Christian.”

But he is. I recall the description of the person who purchased Romney’s house, stating that Romney even had a picture of Jesus on his bedroom wall.

As a Hospice volunteer I cared for a Doctor while he was dying of cancer. He was a surgeon. Never married nor ever had any children. He had no other family in this country. He was from Turkey and was a devout Muslim. We became very good friends during his last weeks on earth.

This man cared and treated all his patients as though they were his family.

Jesus stated that you will know a tree by its fruits. This man, while not a proclaiming Christian, was more Christ like in his behaviour than 99% of the proclaiming Christians. I have no doubt that he met Christ on his journey home. I have his Koran on my bookshelf as a reminder of this great friend and the gratitude I have for him teaching me to keep an open, objective non-judgemental mind. He died prior to 9/11, thus protecting me from stereotyping “all” Muslims.


41 posted on 10/24/2012 4:18:10 AM PDT by tired&retired
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To: tsowellfan

I think it is one of the images floating around when we open the site. Anyway, it’s just way too over the top. I’m conservative but, I’m not a whack job. Some of us on the right really need to tone down the imagery and rhetoric and speak in capable, confident, and reassuring tones.

A picture of a gun next to a bible drives away 90% of the people we’re trying to influence. Guaranteed.


42 posted on 10/24/2012 5:32:24 AM PDT by Mustangman (The GOP)
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To: G Larry

I can’t imagine Obama winning Wisconsin after the sound thumping the left got in the Walker recall election.


43 posted on 10/24/2012 5:35:09 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: 9YearLurker

Romney is +4 in CO.


44 posted on 10/24/2012 5:41:39 AM PDT by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: Future Snake Eater

Look for major Dem vote fraud in WI, due to their frustration.


45 posted on 10/24/2012 5:42:52 AM PDT by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: Future Snake Eater

Winning here in Wisconsin will be tough. But the media keeps forgetting that Paul Ryan’s congressional district leans Dem. But Paul has been winning it with 60 percent of the vote.

IF Ryan’s district can go 55 percent for Romney, it might be enough to get Mitt across the finish line here.


46 posted on 10/24/2012 5:45:38 AM PDT by SteveAustin
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To: G Larry
Look for major Dem vote fraud in WI, due to their frustration

Not just in WI. They will try this everywhere.

Bring your cell phone cameras and set them to send your photos to another location in case they seize them. Record everything you see, and don't let them get away with it

47 posted on 10/24/2012 5:52:53 AM PDT by Cowman (How can the IRS seize property without a warrant if the 4th amendment still stands?)
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To: G Larry

Thank you.


48 posted on 10/24/2012 6:20:46 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Mustangman

” I guess the illegal immigrants have settled into Ohio just yet, then. Obama better get some more truck loads in there or the fraud won’t take hold.”

Quickly.


49 posted on 10/24/2012 8:55:35 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ((God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.))
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To: dforest

” Voters saying their vote for Romney kept defaulting back to Obama.”

This should be grounds to remove all polling people, AND the voting machines.


50 posted on 10/24/2012 8:56:41 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ((God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.))
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