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Richard Mourdock: God at work when rape leads to pregnancy
Boston Herald ^ | 10-23-2012 | Associated Press

Posted on 10/23/2012 7:22:09 PM PDT by Bratch

NEW ALBANY, Ind. — Indiana Republican Senate candidate Richard Mourdock said Tuesday when a woman is impregnated during a rape, "it’s something God intended."

Mourdock, who’s been locked in a tight race with Democratic challenger Rep. Joe Donnelly, was asked during the final minutes of a debate whether abortion should be allowed in cases of rape or incest.

"I struggled with it myself for a long time, but I came to realize that life is that gift from God. And, I think, even when life begins in that horrible situation of rape, that it is something that God intended to happened," Mourdock said.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Indiana
KEYWORDS: abortion; mourdock; rape
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1 posted on 10/23/2012 7:22:09 PM PDT by Bratch
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To: Bratch

What is the obsession with rape and pregnancy? Does it happen so often that it needs to be discussed this much?


2 posted on 10/23/2012 7:24:43 PM PDT by woweeitsme
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To: Bratch

I understand his point, but he didn’t make it very artfully.


3 posted on 10/23/2012 7:26:33 PM PDT by randita
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To: Bratch

Punishing a baby with death is always wrong.


4 posted on 10/23/2012 7:29:30 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: randita
"I struggled with it myself for a long time, but I came to realize that life is that gift from God. And, I think, even when life begins in that horrible situation of rape, that it is something that God intended to happened,"

What, pray, is not "artful" about that statement"

Answer: NOTHING!!!

Quit letting the presstitutes do your thinking for you.

5 posted on 10/23/2012 7:31:23 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: randita
"I struggled with it myself for a long time, but I came to realize that life is that gift from God. And, I think, even when life begins in that horrible situation of rape, that it is something that God intended to happen,"

What, pray, is not "artful" about that statement"

Answer: NOTHING!!!

Quit letting the presstitutes do your thinking for you.

6 posted on 10/23/2012 7:31:55 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Bratch

Romney is already distancing himself. Unbelievable.


7 posted on 10/23/2012 7:35:29 PM PDT by IslandLad
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To: Bratch

Here we go again.

The MSM will once again brutally attack a strong Pro Life Conservative simply because he understands rape and pregnancy and is willing to express his view.


8 posted on 10/23/2012 7:36:25 PM PDT by Uncle Slayton
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To: Bratch
WHERE do these TROGLODYTES come from???????????!!!!!!
9 posted on 10/23/2012 7:37:36 PM PDT by ZULU (See video: http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2012/09/the-first-siege-of-vienna.html)
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To: Bratch

The correct response to this question is very simple: “The Supreme Court has ruled that capital punishment for the crime of rape is ‘cruel and unusual punishment’. If it’s cruel and unusual to inflict the death penalty on a rapist, how can it be acceptable to inflict death on an innocent child conceived during that rape?”


10 posted on 10/23/2012 7:48:20 PM PDT by Campion ("Social justice" begins in the womb)
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To: Bratch

OK, there goes the senate. Perhaps the presidency.


11 posted on 10/23/2012 7:49:30 PM PDT by RugerMini14
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To: ArrogantBustard

It’s very easily twisted into “God intended the RAPE to happen.”

Not that it’s surprising, but people here have been taken in by a few Missouri Senate race push-polls and fooled into thinking Akin has a chance; actually he’s down 6 and 8 in the only two more or less legitimate polls this month. He’s actually running 11 points behind ROMNEY in Missouri.

This isn’t as bad as Akin’s comments, but it’s going to hurt Murdock badly.

What you or I, or anyone on Free Republic, thinks of the comments is absolutely irrelevant; what matters are the views of undecided voters in Indiana. I assure you that especially among women, they will not be positive.


12 posted on 10/23/2012 7:50:06 PM PDT by Strategerist
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To: IslandLad
Romney is already distancing himself. Unbelievable.

Unbelievably smart to do so.

13 posted on 10/23/2012 7:51:17 PM PDT by Strategerist
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To: ZULU

Sigh. I did not hear this on local news. Will have to listen to the local Greg Garrison http://www.wibc.com/ radio show tomorrow morning. Mourdock is running against two - a Libertarian and a Democrat. Can’t republicans just know that they are running to save our country from socialism?


14 posted on 10/23/2012 7:53:04 PM PDT by Bronzy (No more RINOS)
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To: RugerMini14
OK, there goes the senate. Perhaps the presidency.

Eh, I didn't think we'd get the Senate to begin with. And I think Romney can insulate himself from this. Thankfully it's after all the debates, and he made it through all of them without having an abortion question.

15 posted on 10/23/2012 7:53:05 PM PDT by Strategerist
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To: RugerMini14

Welcome to FR.


16 posted on 10/23/2012 7:53:19 PM PDT by mplsconservative ($7.75 for a block of Velveeta cheese? Let's have an anti-Obama grilled cheese revolt!)
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To: Bratch

It is amazing all the things God gets blamed for by really stupid people.


17 posted on 10/23/2012 7:54:10 PM PDT by Delhi Rebels (There was a row in Silver Street - the regiments was out.)
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To: Bratch

I watched this debate. Mourdock was doing very well throughout the debate and then said this....

I told my wife it would be national news by tomorrow. I was wrong, it took less than an hour.

All these idiots need to say is, “ I am pro life and will vote pro life in Congress “.... And don`t say another freaking word.

Mourdock had this election wrapped up. Now who the heck knows. Just incredible.


18 posted on 10/23/2012 7:54:48 PM PDT by Bud Krieger (Another President , another idiot......)
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To: Bratch

Well, I don’t exactly know what to say about this.

I do believe that if a conception occurs as a result of rape, then God does provide that baby with its soul, and that happens right away.

So I can’t actually disagree with what Murdoch has stated here.

However, I still remain in favor of allowing the mother to chose whether or not she wishes to bear the child of her rapist as opposed to forcing her to do it.

Ideally, she would agree that having the baby is the right thing to do. Whether or not she raises the child or gives the child up for adoption is another matter.

As far as Murdoch saying this...out loud...it takes guts to speak on beliefs such as this these days, and I do admire such guts. I’d vote for him.


19 posted on 10/23/2012 7:56:56 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Campion
Now that was artful!!!

It is even understandable to the lowest moron, but it's never artful during the closing days of a political campaign due to evil thinking becoming so commonplace in this God blessed nation!!!

20 posted on 10/23/2012 7:57:39 PM PDT by SierraWasp ("The New Normal," is FAR from any normality!!!)
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To: GeronL
Punishing a baby with death is always wrong.

Then you say something along the lines that rape is a horrendous crime and those who commit it deserve the strictest punishment that the judicial system can hand out. And that your heart goes out to those women who are the victims of this kind of crime, and especially those where the rape leads to pregnancy. But no matter how deeply you sympathize with the victims of rape, you can't see how compounding the tragedy by taking an innocent unborn life makes things better. You don't go around speaking for the Almighty and saying how it was all a gift from Him. Not if you've got any brains in your head.

21 posted on 10/23/2012 7:59:25 PM PDT by Delhi Rebels (There was a row in Silver Street - the regiments was out.)
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To: Strategerist
what matters are the views of undecided voters in Indiana. I assure you that especially among women, they will not be positive.

And that would only be the latest in a long line of proof that letting women vote was a terrible idea.

Shame on anybody dumb enough to fall for this sh*t.

He's expressing the common, Christian belief about life. Only an idiot or an emotional pussy would get bent out of shape about that.
22 posted on 10/23/2012 8:00:22 PM PDT by MitchellC (President Evil: Redistribution)
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He could of just said, “I believe in the sanctity of life not matter its conception or origin.”

I understood what he meant but in today’s over-sensitized, over-hyped MSM, you knew how this would be spinned.

And the GOP throwing him under the bus is just too typical.


23 posted on 10/23/2012 8:00:51 PM PDT by Kolath
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To: Bratch

There needs to be a boot camp for conservatives to learn how to talk about abortion. I’m deadly serious. What is it with these guys?


24 posted on 10/23/2012 8:01:53 PM PDT by paglia444
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To: Strategerist

This is getting pretty annoying. I’ve supported Akin and I’ll continue to support this guy, but isn’t there some sort of 30 minute refresher course these guys could take on pro-life talking points? I myself have a little booklet.

If you say God intended for that life to happen, then you are saying, whether you mean to or not, that the rape was supposed to happen too. That child’s life would not happen without the rape happening. Now, God does want the child’s conception to result in that child being given life.

It’s just unfortunate that the Democrats are on a hair trigger to bust pro-life Republicans for saying things in a dumb way. It’s our society that has made it harder for people to speak in support of life than for people to just say the word “choice” and get away with standing idly by in support of horror.


25 posted on 10/23/2012 8:03:17 PM PDT by Windy City Conservative (Kyle Smith)
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To: Bratch

How does he know God intended for the rape to lead to pregnancy? God gave us the free will to sin and He gave us nature. Sins, such as rape, impact our physical nature and our spiritual nature, but I wouldn’t say that it is God at work. I would say instead it is people working against God.


26 posted on 10/23/2012 8:07:27 PM PDT by impimp
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To: Bratch

Good God...will this be *two* easy pickups/holds that we’re gonna lose now???????????


27 posted on 10/23/2012 8:10:21 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Ambassador Stevens Is Dead And The Chevy Volt Is Alive)
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Rape is not only an assault on the woman, it’s an assault on God and the gift of life.

Now make yourself clear, jackass.


28 posted on 10/23/2012 8:11:07 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: Bratch

“I struggled with it myself for a long time, but I came to realize that life is that gift from God. And, I think, even when life begins in that horrible situation of rape, that it is something that God intended to happened,” Mourdock said.

I wish he had said something such as this,

“I struggled with it myself for a long time, but I came to realize that life is that gift from God. And, when life begins in that horrible situation of rape, I will not pretend to understand what a woman in that situation faces. I do believe though that God has not abandoned her or the life she carries and I trust that He will bring good from the most evil of acts. That to advocate for abortion because a child was conceived by rape is to deny that trust and give way to hopelessness.”


29 posted on 10/23/2012 8:12:57 PM PDT by lastchance ("Nisi credideritis, non intelligetis" St. Augustine)
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To: Bratch

This is the risk you take when the “establishment candidate” just isn’t freaking good enough for you. Jeeeez.

Just ask senator sharron angle.


30 posted on 10/23/2012 8:14:12 PM PDT by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: Bratch

Wow!!! A man that speaks the truth.


31 posted on 10/23/2012 8:14:57 PM PDT by Bellflower (The LORD is Holy, separated from all sin, perfect, righteous, high and lifted up.)
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To: impimp

“Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, and before you were born I consecrated you; I appointed you a prophet to the nations.”

-—Jeremiah 1:5

He has a destiny for all of us. How we enter this world shapes and molds us and prepares us for the tasks at hand.


32 posted on 10/23/2012 8:16:03 PM PDT by Kolath
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To: Bratch

Dambit, Gumby! What is so hard about this?! All you have to say is if the death penalty is good enough for the baby conceived in rape it’s good enough for the rapist.


33 posted on 10/23/2012 8:17:02 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Bratch

It’s a misstatement. His point is taken and no matter how he said it he was going to be lambasted. The liberal media will get as much mileage out of it as they can. I credit him for his integrity and honesty on the issue. Unfortunately in this PC world that does not work in his favor no matter how he would have said it.


34 posted on 10/23/2012 8:17:22 PM PDT by Frapster (There you go again....)
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To: JohnBrowdie

if the establishment candidate was so good, he wouldn’t of lost.

Castle
Lugar
Bennett

Yeah, GOPe....screwing us since 1865.


35 posted on 10/23/2012 8:18:29 PM PDT by Kolath
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To: Bellflower
Wow!!! A man that speaks the truth.

The point is that you can say stuff like that and win local offices, and the odd safe Congressional district in the South, and MAYBE a statewide office in a state like Mississippi, if you're lucky.

But you can't say stuff like that anywhere else and win a statewide office, or a national office. Not now, and not in the lifetime of anyone reading this, I strongly suspect.

36 posted on 10/23/2012 8:18:51 PM PDT by Strategerist
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To: Gene Eric

Mourdock’s clarification tonight: “God creates life, and that was my point. God does not want rape, and by no means was I suggesting that he does. Rape is a horrible thing, and for anyone to twist my words otherwise is absurd and sick.”

I agree, anyone who twists his words to mean otherwise is absurd and sick. I think it’s time for Republicans to stand together against this stupid, adolescent gotcha game played by the democrats.


37 posted on 10/23/2012 8:19:59 PM PDT by mongrel
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To: woweeitsme

The media know rape, incest and women’s issues are a minefield. They are often hoping for blood so their story gets attention. If it bleeds, it leads.......


38 posted on 10/23/2012 8:21:00 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (Actually, they lie when it suits them! The crooked MS media must be defeated any way it can be done!)
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To: Kolath

Enjoy your Obamacare. I know the rest of us will. I just hope we remember everyone who helped ensure it’s survival


39 posted on 10/23/2012 8:24:25 PM PDT by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: Campion

Nice answer.


40 posted on 10/23/2012 8:24:42 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Obama's myth is oozing out onto the floor... she's redlining captain, I can't hold her together!)
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To: The_Media_never_lie
The media know rape, incest and women’s issues are a minefield.

They also know that the true views of Social Conservative Republicans are shared by a only small minority of the electorate, as well. So it's a productive field to mine.

Of course, due to media bias, Democratic candidates don't get equivalent partial-birth abortion questions in debates. But not much that can be done about that.

41 posted on 10/23/2012 8:25:07 PM PDT by Strategerist
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To: RugerMini14

Welcome aboard new FRiend


42 posted on 10/23/2012 8:26:03 PM PDT by Kolath
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To: Bratch

My guess is that this race won’t be so tight tomorrow.


43 posted on 10/23/2012 8:27:31 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (The dude abides.)
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To: Bratch

Why can’t these guys just shut up about rape and pregnancy? Not every question needs an immediate answer. This could have been answered on November 7th.


44 posted on 10/23/2012 8:29:06 PM PDT by SailormanCGA72
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To: Bratch

I don’t think this going to he am Akin situation... Mourdock immediately “clarified”.., in contrast, Akin simply dug in his heels and never truly backed away from his original statement.


45 posted on 10/23/2012 8:30:41 PM PDT by Arthurio
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To: MitchellC

“Only an idiot or an emotional pussy would get bent out of shape about that.”

Or an undecided voter who doesn’t share the “common, Christian belief” that he does.


46 posted on 10/23/2012 8:30:58 PM PDT by paglia444
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To: ArrogantBustard

Why is this different from some muzzie saying 9/11 was the will of Allah?Suddenly rape is the will of God. Rape is evil and the God I believe in is not a party to evil. These are now two Senate races thrown away because two men have little empathy for women who’ve been violated. Abortion is an evil of the highest order, but this is not Margaret Attwood’s dystopic Republic of Gilead . I think, however that Mourdock and Akins might actually be happy there. Me, the idea of watching Harry Reid for at least the next two years is hard enough, but now a Romney win will be diminished by his ability to get anything of value done.


47 posted on 10/23/2012 8:31:20 PM PDT by xkaydet65
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To: woweeitsme

The Left keeps baiting them and they keep falling for it.


48 posted on 10/23/2012 8:31:22 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: Bratch
If Joe Donnelly wins this seat I'm going to puke.
49 posted on 10/23/2012 8:33:06 PM PDT by JoeDonnellymakesmepuke
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To: Bratch

Smart but not wise. We should be focusing on the non-rape/incest/threat to mother’s life abortions but noooo everyone wants to be a purist and sink with the ship.


50 posted on 10/23/2012 8:36:02 PM PDT by ari-freedom
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