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How many horses and bayonets did the military have?
Chicago Tribune ^ | October 24, 2012 | Kim Geiger

Posted on 10/24/2012 7:48:39 AM PDT by ConservativeStatement

President Obama’s quip about “horses and bayonets” may have been the most memorable sound bite from the third presidential debate, but was it true?

The comment came after Mitt Romney asserted that “our Navy is smaller now than at any time since 1917,” because it has fewer ships. Fact-checkers have determined that statement was false, but Obama took the bait anyway.

(Excerpt) Read more at chicagotribune.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012debates; bayonets; bhodod; gaffe; horses; obama; usmilitary
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"rhetorical." That is the key word for today. Let's say it together: rhetorical.
1 posted on 10/24/2012 7:48:41 AM PDT by ConservativeStatement
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The comment came after Mitt Romney asserted that “our Navy is smaller now than at any time since 1917,” because it has fewer ships. Fact-checkers have determined that statement was false...

I am sure Mitt said what he said for a reason. I don't buy Kim Geiger's bullcrap.

2 posted on 10/24/2012 7:50:23 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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And by the way, the most memorable quip for me was when Romney said “We Don’t Dictate To Nations, We Free Nations From Dictators.”


3 posted on 10/24/2012 7:52:10 AM PDT by ConservativeStatement (Obama "acted stupidly.")
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NPR confirms Romney’s statement
http://www.npr.org/2012/10/22/163419358/what-does-the-navys-size-tells-about-u-s-power

John Lehman is advising Romney- he was a good Secretary of The Navy


4 posted on 10/24/2012 7:54:42 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: ConservativeStatement

They could have used a few horses and bayonets in Benghazi


5 posted on 10/24/2012 7:55:22 AM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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In a rational world, that would be the take-away statement at the debate. Actually, it was just one of several quite powerful comments Romney made the other night.

Obama lied over and over. And yet, the DNCp still talks of an Obama win.

Sorry, but when someone lies (in effect cheats), they’re no winner. Just ask Lance Armstrong.

Obama is the political Lance Armstrong!


6 posted on 10/24/2012 7:57:37 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Obama's myth is oozing out onto the floor... he is the political Lance Armstrong.)
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To: ConservativeStatement
Mit made a claim.

Zero failed to answer the question;

instead responded like a school-yard BULLY.


7 posted on 10/24/2012 7:58:38 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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To: silverleaf

http://www.federaltimes.com/videonetwork21228646395001/1880383117001/John-Lehman-on-Mitt-Romney-s-defense-strategy

More from Lehman about Romney’s defense strategy

More
http://www.businessweek.com/news/2012-10-09/romney-claim-of-smallest-navy-misses-technology-s-edge

BTW, the last president who tried to cut forces and manpower in favor of “technoloy” was Jimmy Carter and his advisor Stansfield Turner.

That didn’t turn out well.

Having a bunch of missiles you can launch long range (or for you little folks in Loma Linda, a “bunch of airplanes that land on ships”) does not substitute for assuring FON with a worldwide capable naval
presence.


8 posted on 10/24/2012 8:04:21 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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9 posted on 10/24/2012 8:05:37 AM PDT by bgill (Evil doers are in every corner of our government. Have we passed the time of no return?)
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To: UriĀ’el-2012
The word I have used to describe Obama’s debate performances is “impetuous.” He's had so much handed to him in life and when challenged is anything by commander-like. Megyn Kelly said after the second debate that women won't like either candidate because they raged. Obama was childish more than anything in the third performance.
10 posted on 10/24/2012 8:06:34 AM PDT by ConservativeStatement (Obama "acted stupidly.")
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To: ConservativeStatement

^ but not by (my error)


11 posted on 10/24/2012 8:07:39 AM PDT by ConservativeStatement (Obama "acted stupidly.")
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"Obama was being more rhetorical than he was precise,” Thompson said. “He was just making a point about how military technology has changed.”

No he is an %*&#@$%^ clown that doesn't know his corpmen deom his corpse men.

12 posted on 10/24/2012 8:09:02 AM PDT by verga (Forced to remove tag line by administrator)
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as well as some sabers and cav lances.


13 posted on 10/24/2012 8:09:36 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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Obama, riding out on Bigbird and falling on his bayonet..


14 posted on 10/24/2012 8:10:39 AM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (I will fear no muslim))
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Obama was childish more than anything in the third performance

I would have chosen churlish..

15 posted on 10/24/2012 8:12:54 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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To: ConservativeStatement
The comment came after Mitt Romney asserted that “our Navy is smaller now than at any time since 1917,” because it has fewer ships. Fact-checkers have determined that statement was false, but Obama took the bait anyway.

Which "fact checkers", and how is the statement false? Number of ships, total tonnage, number of crew, firepower?

Today's ships may have more firepower than WW-1, but they are also in an environment where the enemy has cruise missiles and smart weapons too. The important point is whether we have enough naval power to totally dominate a conflict or combination, destroying the enemy with minimal casualties on our side?

If any potential opponent knows he will be easily defeated, he won't challenge us. The dangerous part comes when an opponent thinks we're weak enough to take on. Yes, we may destroy him, but we will take casualties in the process.

16 posted on 10/24/2012 8:18:47 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (political correctness is communist thought control, disguised as good manners)
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Actually Obozo, bayonettes ceased to be a mjor form of infantry weapon by the U.S Civil War. Horses were reduced to third class importance by WW1.

So it was a stupid comment by an very ignorant man.


17 posted on 10/24/2012 8:29:46 AM PDT by ZULU (See video: http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2012/09/the-first-siege-of-vienna.html)
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To: UriĀ’el-2012

Obama acted Niggardly.


18 posted on 10/24/2012 8:30:40 AM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (I will fear no muslim))
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I read Mitt said 1916 but I could of sworn I heard him say 1960.


19 posted on 10/24/2012 8:43:54 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz
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Barack Obama

RIPPED By Bayonet Co.

We’re Still Relevant!!!

Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2012/10/23/barack-obama-bayonet-company-relevant-debate/#ixzz2AEQ9quam


20 posted on 10/24/2012 8:45:17 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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