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You Won’t Believe Who Romney’s Related To
Ancestry.com ^ | 10/16/2012

Posted on 10/24/2012 11:36:59 AM PDT by GVnana

How many Commanders-in-Chief can you get in one family tree? When it’s former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney’s family tree, the answer is six.

According to Ancestry.com, the world’s largest online family history resource, Romney’s family tree connects him to Franklin D. Roosevelt, Calvin Coolidge, Franklin Pierce, Herbert Hoover, and both George H.W. and George W. Bush.

Romney is connected to Presidents George W. Bush (10th cousins, twice removed), George H. W. Bush (10th cousins, once removed) and Franklin D. Roosevelt (8th cousins, twice removed) through Ann Marbury Hutchinson, a key figure in the development of religious freedom in America and early settler of Rhode Island and New York.

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Interesting that Romney's ancestor is Ann Hutchinson.
1 posted on 10/24/2012 11:37:01 AM PDT by GVnana
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To: GVnana

No wonder why politicians are retarded. They are all inbred.


2 posted on 10/24/2012 11:40:10 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz
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To: GVnana

“...(10th cousins, twice removed)...”
I never did understand what this ‘removed’ thingy meant.


3 posted on 10/24/2012 11:42:15 AM PDT by duckman (I'm part of the group pulling the wagon!)
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To: GVnana

The Romney’s did not arrive to the US until the 1830’s.
The family has no one who served in the military after their arrival.
ancestry.com is owned by lds.
It is fun to look as these sites, and see how far back you can trace your family or possible family history, reality is it doesn’t mean anything.


4 posted on 10/24/2012 11:42:38 AM PDT by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

No that was the funniest thing I’ve heard all day. Thanks.


5 posted on 10/24/2012 11:42:55 AM PDT by PMAS (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

Now that was the funniest thing I’ve heard all day. Thanks.


6 posted on 10/24/2012 11:42:56 AM PDT by PMAS (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing)
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To: duckman

That is weird.
Ok, here goes.
Your mom has a sister, she is your aunt.
The aunt’s kids are your first cousins, your first cousin’s children are your first cousin once removed, their children would be your first cousin twice removed.
Your first cousins children and your children would be second cousins, so their children would be second cousins once removed.

If you have a large family it is just easier to say cousin, otherwise it just gives you a headache.


7 posted on 10/24/2012 11:48:26 AM PDT by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: duckman

I find it interesting that in life, we have more of a monarchy than we think.

Aren’t our leaders in-bred? They know each other very well!


8 posted on 10/24/2012 11:48:44 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved FrieGrnd Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: duckman

‘Removed’ just means how many generations separate you. For example, if your father has a first cousin, you’re first cousins once removed (i.e., one generation apart). If he in turn has a son, that’s just your second cousin (not ‘removed’) since you’re the same number of generations down from your common ancestor.


9 posted on 10/24/2012 11:50:50 AM PDT by Sloth (If a tax break counts as "spending" then every time I don't rob a bank should be a "deposit.")
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To: svcw

Yup. They are not immediate relatives, they are distant members of the family.

Its true because back then America was a small country of a few million souls so its very likely someone knew someone who knew someone.

That’s a lot different today.


10 posted on 10/24/2012 11:51:08 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved FrieGrnd Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: svcw

Ancestry.com has long since gone public, anyone who wishes can buy stock/ownership in it. Suggest you try looking up wikipedia to get some of your facts straight.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancestry.com

Additionally, yes the owners are LDS, but don’t try to confuse that with public ownership.


11 posted on 10/24/2012 11:51:50 AM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: duckman
The 'removed' qualifier is quite simple - it shows a lateral relationship as generations multiply.

For example, your mother's first cousin is also your first cousin, but once removed because you're one generation after the relation between your mother and her cousin.

Your children will be first cousins twice removed from your mother's first cousin due to being two generations away from the relation, your grandchildren first cousins thrice removed due to three generations away from the relation, etc.

12 posted on 10/24/2012 11:52:39 AM PDT by Lovely-Day-For-A-Guinness (Eenie meanie, chili beanie, the spirits are about to speak....)
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To: Morpheus2009

I said ancestry.com was lds owned and you said ancestry.com was lds owned.
Not sure what you are trying to say here, what facts are wrong as we both said ancestry.com is owned by lds.


13 posted on 10/24/2012 11:56:51 AM PDT by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: GVnana

Not gonna do it ... with my luck I’m related to Stanley Ann Dunham

TT


14 posted on 10/24/2012 11:59:43 AM PDT by TexasTransplant (Radical islam is islam. Moderate islam is the Trojan Horse.)
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To: EQAndyBuzz
I wouldn't put too much stock in politicians (or anyone else for that matter) being this distantly related. One of my relatives is listed in Wikipedia (Owen Fitzpen, very interesting story, by the way) and shares common ancestry with three U.S. Presidents.

You double the number of potential ancestors for each generation you go back. It doesn't take very many generations for the number of your potential ancestors to nearly equal or even surpass the number of inhabitants in a given area at a given time.

This is particularly true if you are talking about pre-1670 or so colonial America. You are dealing with a relatively small pool of potential ancestors. If one of yours made it there before 1670, chances are pretty good that we're distantly related.

The gene pool begins to get mixed big time after 1670 as that is about the time the motherland discovered we were a good place to dump all sorts of undesirable types, not just religious dissidents and people actually wanting to come here.

You have two parents, so share half the genetic material with each. For a first cousin, you would share one-quarter of the same genetic material or 1/(2^2). By the time you get down to a 10th cousin, your common genetic material is 1/(2^12) or 1/4096th or 0.024%. I think Dick Cheney and BO are somewhere in this category. This would not be dissimilar to just about anyone in America with a pre-1670 ancestor.

15 posted on 10/24/2012 12:26:00 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: TexasTransplant

LOL...could be worse.


16 posted on 10/24/2012 12:29:21 PM PDT by madison10
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To: Vigilanteman

My family was pre-1670, Massachusetts, NOT Plymouth. They settled at Martha’s Vineyard. Only person most people would know that I’m related to is the late Patrick Swayze. His family went back a LONG way in U.S. history.


17 posted on 10/24/2012 12:34:25 PM PDT by madison10
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To: Vigilanteman

” One of my relatives is listed in Wikipedia (Owen Fitzpen, very interesting story, by the way) and shares common ancestry with three U.S. Presidents.”

Actually, your relative, like Mitt Romney—if related to any president except Martin van Buren—is therefore related to ALL U.S. presidents (except van Buren).
http://weareallrelated.com/ http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2698845/posts

I’m a little surprised Ancestry.com doesn’t know this.


18 posted on 10/24/2012 12:38:03 PM PDT by DrC
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To: madison10

Since I’m not going to do the search ... if someone else does.... and it ends up that I am related, I take no responsibility for sharing Genes with the Usurper in Chief

I’d much rather live in a hut in Kenya

TT


19 posted on 10/24/2012 12:38:16 PM PDT by TexasTransplant (Radical islam is islam. Moderate islam is the Trojan Horse.)
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To: GVnana

Many Mormons can trace some kinship to vast lists of famous people, due to the polygamy that they once practiced.


20 posted on 10/24/2012 12:38:20 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: EQAndyBuzz

Hey, wait a minute, I’m a staunch conservative and I’m also related via family tree to J. & P. Alden, FDR and the Bush’s as well as both Adams’, etc. There’s no inbreeding involved, just a long line of American stock. One thing you do know about Romney, he’s all American unlike the Muslim in Chief.


21 posted on 10/24/2012 12:38:53 PM PDT by mia
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To: GVnana

Tenth cousin is not very closely related at all. I have read somewhere that any two people on Earth are no more distantly related than 50th cousin.


22 posted on 10/24/2012 12:40:18 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: GVnana

I can only imagine who 0 is related to.


23 posted on 10/24/2012 12:40:41 PM PDT by b4its2late (A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Oh brother! See post 21. How about the fact that some American’s have ancestors from as far back as the Mayflower.


24 posted on 10/24/2012 12:40:58 PM PDT by mia
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To: mia

I’m related to every President and to each one of you. I just don’t know by how many degrees of separation.


25 posted on 10/24/2012 12:42:10 PM PDT by Solson (The Voters stole the election! And the establishment wants it back.)
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To: svcw

Good job! I just told my kids it meant how many times they were kicked out of our family reunions! ;-)


26 posted on 10/24/2012 12:44:50 PM PDT by Average Al
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To: GVnana
You mean Romney doesn't have any relations in Kenya??

How racist!!

Of course....if you believe sciencists we came from 'LUCY', who was discovered in Africa...

27 posted on 10/24/2012 12:45:21 PM PDT by ExCTCitizen (Yes, Obama, I had help with my business. MY CUSTOMERS!)
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To: madison10
You are probably aware of it, but you can set up a free account on Ancestry.Com, enter the information for 5 or 6 generations (or at least as much as you know) and they will actually show you relationships to famous people.

They tend to use the same set of famous people (probably because they have them in their database) and ignore others (probably because they don't), but it is fascinating nevertheless.

I found out my wife and I were distant cousins through a common ancestor in Rhode Island via a common famous person, Lucille Ball.

You might have even more fun. Any idea what the population of Martha's Vineyard was circa 1670? I'd bet you'd be working with an even smaller pool of ancestors than most of us.

One of the truly fascinating things about genealogy in this era is just how little people moved from one generation to the next. They might marry someone from the adjacent county but that's generally as far as it goes.

Then you have some major event like the American Revolution, completion of the Erie Canal or completion of a railroad and, all of a sudden, the next generation is moving far away.

My Dad had Dutch ancestors on New York from almost the time that Peter Minuit purchased Manhattan Island and they barely move-- Staten Island, Brooklyn Heights, west end of Long Island, that's about it, for more than 150 years. Then several of them join the American Revolution and congress can't pay their promised pensions and, boom, within 20 years, they are all in the Finger Lakes region of New York where congress awarded land grants in lieu of the pensions. A generation or so later, the Erie Canal gets completed and they're out of there.

28 posted on 10/24/2012 12:58:02 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: GVnana; a fool in paradise; Slings and Arrows

Is he related to the infamous 14th Century Count Vlad Romney?


29 posted on 10/24/2012 1:00:48 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: GVnana

Well, at least he’s not his own grandpa, like so many of us!


30 posted on 10/24/2012 1:02:45 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: ExCTCitizen

Imagine my surprise 4 years ago to find out I was distant kin to Obama. As a white conservative growing up in the Ozark mountains of Arkansas as my parents, grandparents and great grandparents did, it was a stunner.


31 posted on 10/24/2012 1:02:54 PM PDT by razorbak
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To: Average Al

Good one.


32 posted on 10/24/2012 1:04:50 PM PDT by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: Vince Ferrer
I have read somewhere that any two people on Earth are no more distantly related than 50th cousin.

Do the math. A 50th cousin would share 1/2^52 in common genetic material or 1/45 quadrillionth. You've got to get down to 31st cousins or so to even come close to equaling the earth's current population or 27th cousins or so to get to the half billion or so people who inhabited the entire earth before the industrial revolution.

It is interesting that that half billion number remained relatively stable for most of recorded history, fluctuating in a fairly narrow range of plus or minus about 200 million.

The earth only became capable of supporting more than that number once capitalism was invented.

33 posted on 10/24/2012 1:12:33 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: GVnana

Is that the same Hutchinson who was hanged? If so, then she is also a relative of mine as well as Mary Dyer/Dwyer..the Quaker martyr.

Dwyer is a great grandmother of mine..Hutchinson was on my Moms side and Dwyer my dads. They were hanged for preaching the Quaker faith in Boston. Dwyer was hanged jun of 1660 in Boston commons. She was also known as Mrs Mary Stewart.


34 posted on 10/24/2012 1:18:18 PM PDT by crz
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To: GVnana
I found this one not on ancestry. Looks valid as it was checked by Gary Boyd Roberts.

He's my 10th cousin, common ancestors Matthew Allyn and Margaret Wyott/Wyatt.

I wondered because just about every single president is descended from royalty. Obama is said to be descended from Henry I (or II), too, on his mother's side.

Ancestry of Mitt Romney

I can figure relationships the hard way but can't explain it. I type two columns of generations, one for them and one for me. They start with common ancestor parent then child child child on down as far as necessary in each column, ending with me in mine and the name I want to know the relationship in the other. I can't use my genealogy program because it's "stuck" on my bad computer but there is a calculator here:

Cousin Calculator

35 posted on 10/24/2012 1:25:57 PM PDT by Aliska
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To: Sloth

Perfect succinct explanation. My dad used to try to explain it over and over. Finally I get it when I started filling in the family tree in genealogy. Some people can probably do it in their head. I can if not too far back.


36 posted on 10/24/2012 1:29:44 PM PDT by Aliska
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To: razorbak

Jeez. I hope it doesn’t compel you to vote for him now ;-)


37 posted on 10/24/2012 1:33:13 PM PDT by b4its2late (A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: madison10

That is funny. I have an uncle who makes the same claim. Is that you uncle Brad?


38 posted on 10/24/2012 1:37:20 PM PDT by st.eqed
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To: b4its2late
I can only imagine who O is related to.

To start that trace one would need to know who his parents are.

39 posted on 10/24/2012 1:44:14 PM PDT by Churchillspirit (9/11/2001. NEVER FORGET.)
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To: Churchillspirit

Good points.... Both of them.


40 posted on 10/24/2012 1:46:57 PM PDT by b4its2late (A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: GVnana

http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/r/remus-reid.htm

Harry Reid` horse theiving uncle (fiction....but fun)


41 posted on 10/24/2012 1:47:42 PM PDT by Einherjar ( Asking only workman's wages I come looking for a job But I get no offers...)
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To: GVnana

http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/r/remus-reid.htm

Harry Reid` horse theiving uncle (fiction....but fun)


42 posted on 10/24/2012 1:50:22 PM PDT by Einherjar ( Asking only workman's wages I come looking for a job But I get no offers...)
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To: st.eqed

Naw. Not just a claim and I’m a woman, so I am NOT your Uncle Brad. LOL IF your Uncle Brad does make that claim there may be something to it. Stories come from somewhere.

Although, some of the family did go South (Mississippi) and West(Iowa), too many to keep track of. The family name is there (Martha’s Vineyard)in a book they say. I’ve never been there so I’ve not seen the book.

People would recognize the last name, but wouldn’t post it in public.


43 posted on 10/24/2012 1:56:54 PM PDT by madison10
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To: Revolting cat!

$oros? John Kerry? Bill Gates? Oprah Winfrey?

Gotta be some kinda billionaire I reckon.


44 posted on 10/24/2012 2:25:00 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Obama likes to claim credit for getting Osama. Why hasn't he tried Khalid Sheikh Mohammed yet?)
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To: Morpheus2009

>> the owners are LDS <<

I don’t know the percentage breakout between LDS and “gentile” stockholders. But that number is now irrelevant, since Ancestry has just been bought by a European conglomerate.


45 posted on 10/24/2012 2:28:46 PM PDT by Hawthorn
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To: Revolting cat!

$oros? John Kerry? Bill Gates? Oprah Winfrey?

Gotta be some kinda billionaire I reckon.


46 posted on 10/24/2012 2:30:09 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Obama likes to claim credit for getting Osama. Why hasn't he tried Khalid Sheikh Mohammed yet?)
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To: GVnana

Meanwhile Baraq Hussein Obama still has not been vetted by the media.


47 posted on 10/24/2012 2:31:12 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Obama likes to claim credit for getting Osama. Why hasn't he tried Khalid Sheikh Mohammed yet?)
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To: svcw

So what are my dad’s cousins to me (his son)? I realize to them I am their first cousin once removed.


48 posted on 10/24/2012 2:38:37 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Obama likes to claim credit for getting Osama. Why hasn't he tried Khalid Sheikh Mohammed yet?)
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To: a fool in paradise

ah, Well, your grandpa and great grandpa have children, they would be cousins. Their children would be second cousins, but to the first cousins, the children of the first cousins would be first cousins once removed, but to each other second cousins.
I think, I need a flow chart.
It’s just easier to say cousin, well unless you want to get married, then you do have to figure it out, there are some laws against that and all.
;0)


49 posted on 10/24/2012 3:00:00 PM PDT by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: Sloth

Wheeew, that clears that up. :>)


50 posted on 10/24/2012 3:44:03 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (0bama's agenda—Divide and conquer. FREEDOM OR FREE STUFF- YOU GET ONE CHOICE, CHOOSE WISELY)
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