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How Bill Clinton May Have Hurt the Obama Campaign (The blame game begins...)
NY Times ^ | 10/24/12 | MATT BAI

Posted on 10/24/2012 1:20:12 PM PDT by jimbo123

When the histories of the 2012 campaign are written, much will be made of Bill Clinton’s re-emergence. His convention speech may well have marked the finest moment of President Obama’s re-election campaign, and his ads on the president’s behalf were memorable.

But there is one crucial way in which the 42nd president may not have served the 44th quite as well. In these final weeks before the election, Mr. Clinton’s expert advice about how to beat Mitt Romney is starting to look suspect.

(Excerpt) Read more at thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com ...


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Under the Obama bus goes Bubba...
1 posted on 10/24/2012 1:20:15 PM PDT by jimbo123
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To: jimbo123

Down goes Frazier.


2 posted on 10/24/2012 1:21:59 PM PDT by carumba (The secret of life is honesty and fair dealing. If you can fake that, you've got it made. Groucho)
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To: jimbo123

Now why should we make a hero of Bubba?


3 posted on 10/24/2012 1:24:05 PM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: jimbo123

The opening sentence: “When the histories of the 2012 campaign are written, much will be made of Bill Clinton’s re-emergence”. That is hilarious.


4 posted on 10/24/2012 1:24:56 PM PDT by toddausauras (FUBO x 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000)
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To: jimbo123
Under the Obama bus goes Bubba...

Bildo's worst nightmare—stuck somewhere with Her Heinous who took up residence under there last week.

5 posted on 10/24/2012 1:25:26 PM PDT by Dahoser (Separation of church and state? No, we need separation of media and state.)
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To: jimbo123

When the New York Slimes start bad-mouthing Bubba , you know it’s all over.


6 posted on 10/24/2012 1:26:12 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: jimbo123

He only has to appear to help Hussein to the extent he that will please voting blacks and not ONE INCH further. Why? So Hillary can run again, even though she’ll be a total HAG.


7 posted on 10/24/2012 1:26:48 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: jimbo123

This will not end well for Barry...get me the popcorn!


8 posted on 10/24/2012 1:27:18 PM PDT by MNlurker
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To: Venturer

well well well............


9 posted on 10/24/2012 1:29:42 PM PDT by Col Frank Slade
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To: jimbo123

If anyone actually believed Bill Clinton wanted to help Barack Obama, you don’t know Bill Clinton.

Probably the simplest way of explaining what I mean is the nice lady from North Carolina who informed me that in the South, the expression “Bless his heart” doesn’t mean what you think it does.


10 posted on 10/24/2012 1:31:31 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: jimbo123

Obama is a one-man show. Its not the Obama administration, its the Obama show.

His VP is a joke who is never heard from. His political enemy is his secretary of state. The rest of his cabinet are never heard from or are unknowns - and Obama seems to like it that way. He has not assembled a “brain trust” and never refers, mentions, or gives credit to senior advisors. He certainly doesn’t defer to anyone supposedly smarter or more experienced than himself.

You either buy into his sole rock-star status, or you don’t. So anyone upstaging him, like Clinton, will hurt Obama.


11 posted on 10/24/2012 1:32:30 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: jimbo123

Matt Bai gave too much credit to Team Obama.

Have you seen who run the campaign, and their spokesperosns?

Plouffe, Messina, Cutter, et al. are not in the same league.


12 posted on 10/24/2012 1:34:15 PM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: jimbo123

The Bill Clinton brand will truck on once Obama loses and it will take along time for Obama to repair his image because he’ll be tagged as a failed president. Clinton would laugh if he saw this blog post.


13 posted on 10/24/2012 1:35:13 PM PDT by goodolemr
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To: bigbob
Probably the simplest way of explaining what I mean is the nice lady from North Carolina who informed me that in the South, the expression “Bless his heart” doesn’t mean what you think it does.
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My Grandma always said that you can get away with saying ugly things about someone as long as you say “bless his/her heart” first.

Bless his heart, he can't help being an idiot.

14 posted on 10/24/2012 1:42:56 PM PDT by kara37
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To: jimbo123
Mr. Clinton’s expert advice about how to beat Mitt Romney is starting to look suspect.

Maybe it's Obama's judgement that's "suspect" for trusting Clinton in the first place.

15 posted on 10/24/2012 1:45:06 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: jimbo123

I like how they act like Clinton was a master national campaigner, carefully forgetting he never got a majority and if Ross hadn’t split the right Clinton would just be another entry on the list of Dem nominees that lost.


16 posted on 10/24/2012 1:48:10 PM PDT by discostu (Not a part of anyone's well oiled machine.)
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To: jimbo123

I would say this should be the end for obama, billy, hilly, dirty harry, nancy. I say they each must take credit for their foul play and political downfall! and good riddance to many unnamed others who played a role in this cover-up!

Always remember ... good people died, grandparents, mothers and fathers, sons and daughter, sister and brothers!!

The Democrats have put this country, THE UNITED STATES of AMERICA in jeopardy and we let them! Now is the time to clean up their mess.


17 posted on 10/24/2012 2:09:58 PM PDT by malia
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To: discostu

Remember that Clinton could only help himself on the campaign trail. He was the kiss of death for other candidate aand they knew it.


18 posted on 10/24/2012 2:12:16 PM PDT by rod1 (CTLY)
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To: jimbo123

The impeached and disbarred Bill Clinton.


19 posted on 10/24/2012 2:13:45 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: jimbo123

Who cares? The whole miserable lot of these cretins suck.


20 posted on 10/24/2012 2:15:22 PM PDT by dforest
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To: jimbo123

Yep. Setting up to be in full Finger Pointing Mode come Nov. 7.


21 posted on 10/24/2012 2:21:49 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: jimbo123
His convention speech may well have marked the finest moment of President Obama’s re-election campaign>>>>

If the highlight of your campaign was having the perjuring horny-hick-from-Hope give a speech, it doesn't take a medium to predict that is a campaign that will go down in flames.

22 posted on 10/24/2012 2:22:17 PM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: dforest

***The whole miserable lot of these cretins suck***

Would you want any of these as a neighbor: Obama, Clinton, Reid, Pelosi, Axelrod, Biden, Plouffe, Holder, Beckel, Schultz, Maddow, Matthews, Letterman and all the Hollywood wackos?

I would give my house away and move to a trailer park.


23 posted on 10/24/2012 2:24:23 PM PDT by sodpoodle (Life is prickly - carry tweezers.)
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24 posted on 10/24/2012 2:26:00 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: jimbo123

Wasn’t it Clinton who told all the congresscritters that they needed to vote for obamacare to get reelected. So they did, and look what it got them.


25 posted on 10/24/2012 2:42:31 PM PDT by Suz in AZ
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To: jimbo123

The only reason Obama looked half-decent in the last debate was that he was posing as a conservative, trying to argue that his track record was more conservative than Romney’s promises. Liberals can’t win running as liberals. Obama was hoping to get to the right of Romney, but no one bought it.


26 posted on 10/24/2012 2:44:55 PM PDT by AZLiberty (No tag today.)
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To: bigbob
"Probably the simplest way of explaining what I mean is the nice lady from North Carolina who informed me that in the South, the expression “Bless his heart” doesn’t mean what you think it does."

Ha! Very true!

27 posted on 10/24/2012 2:48:24 PM PDT by hummingbird (Lather, Rinse........BUT DO NOT REPEAT - REPEAT IS A WASTE - A SCAM!)
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To: malia
"Always remember ... good people died, grandparents, mothers and fathers, sons and daughter, sister and brothers!!"

So right.

28 posted on 10/24/2012 3:05:21 PM PDT by hummingbird (Lather, Rinse........BUT DO NOT REPEAT - REPEAT IS A WASTE - A SCAM!)
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To: MNlurker
This will not end well for Barry...get me the popcorn!

LOL, I am literally stuffing my face with popcorn as I read this thread.

29 posted on 10/24/2012 3:11:15 PM PDT by Ancesthntr (Why do blacks think that a half-white multi-millionairre really cares about them?)
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To: carumba
LOLOLOLOL...!!!
30 posted on 10/24/2012 3:15:13 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: jimbo123


OHhhh WOe is me...
why's everybody always pickin on ME???

31 posted on 10/24/2012 3:16:07 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: jimbo123

32 posted on 10/24/2012 3:25:31 PM PDT by timestax (Why not drug tests for the President AND all White Hut staff ? ? ?)
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To: discostu
...if Ross hadn’t split the right...

This type of nonsense fails to address the deeper problem, that of the RNC having solid candidates. Let's face it, Bush Sr. Only had to ride the Reagan wave into office and he blew it.

The Candidate has to earn to my vote, I'm not going to vote blindly just because of the letter at the end of their name. It's just one reason why we have the number of RINOs we do. We don't demand solid conservatives, and the RNC knows many are too willing to hold their nose to pull the lever. There are sheep in both parties and it doesn't help.

Reagan proved that conservative principles can win elections, we just need more candidates that embrace those principles and that have the ability to speak about them clearly.

33 posted on 10/24/2012 3:25:46 PM PDT by voicereason (The RNC is the "One-night stand" you wish you could forget.)
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To: jimbo123

......before the rooster crowed, I personally heard the democrats, at their convention, deny HIM three times.......I just wonder how much that had to do with what we are seeing?


34 posted on 10/24/2012 3:25:48 PM PDT by krogers58
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To: voicereason

It’s not nonsense, the conservative vote got split between two candidates. That’s the fact. The whys and wherefores weren’t in what I said. Yes we could have/ should have better candidates. But doesn’t change the fact that Clinton didn’t get a majority, and if Ross hadn’t run Bush would have won in ‘92 in spite of his flaws. And yes if Bush had been a better candidate Ross wouldn’t have mattered, of course by 92 that decision was 12 years too late.


35 posted on 10/24/2012 3:31:26 PM PDT by discostu (Not a part of anyone's well oiled machine.)
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To: jimbo123

blah blah blah
Typical overwritten garbage from the NYT.
It’s insulting and yes, I read the entire commentary.


36 posted on 10/24/2012 3:34:27 PM PDT by Jean S
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To: miss marmelstein

“Now why should we make a hero of Bubba?”

Ugh! We don’t!! Free Republic people have consistently spoken the truth about Bill Clinton and haven’t put him up on that pedestal that he loves to perch on so much. Remember, there’s so much rot about the Clintons that there’s no way to retain it all in your mind without constantly feeling like you need a shower. - My dear aunt can’t seem to tie the Clintons in her mind as having paved the way for the Obama nightmare we’re living in now. Bill Clinton’s negligence also set the stage for 9/11, just as Hillary’s did this 9/11. Bill Clinton only “changed course” two years into his tenure because the American people elected a Republican Congress in a blowout and forced him to. The Clintons are just as much Saul Alinskyites as Obama is; and just as heavily invested in the New World Order as he is. - Chicago thugs or Arkansas thugs, which is better?


37 posted on 10/24/2012 3:38:44 PM PDT by Twinkie (PEOPLE ARE HURTING IN OBAMA'S ECONOMY . . .)
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To: jimbo123

Obama’s rigid ideological viewpoint could do him in then. He hates conservatism so much that he believed that painting Romney as a “hard-right conservative” was the worst possible thing that could be said about him. But independents were smart enough to see through it and the attacks helped warm conservatives’ perceptions of Romney because they couldn’t help but sympathize with someone being attacked for being too conservative. Plus this disingenuous line of attack undermined Obama’s credibility on everything else.


38 posted on 10/24/2012 3:39:05 PM PDT by JediJones (ROMNEY/RYAN: TURNAROUND ARTISTS ***** OBAMA/BIDEN: BULL $HIT ARTISTS)
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To: Jean S

Me too. Only a writer for the NY Times could assert that George W. Bush was a “severe conservative”.


39 posted on 10/24/2012 3:39:38 PM PDT by John W (Viva Cristo Rey!)
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To: jimbo123
'...His [Bill Clinton's] convention speech may well have marked the finest moment of President Obama’s re-election campaign..."

Finest moment?

That's like awarding first prize to a child in a 1st grade art contest, and calling it "high art."

40 posted on 10/24/2012 4:05:58 PM PDT by shhrubbery! (NIH!)
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To: jimbo123
One thing can be said about the New York Times - they NEVER did anything to hurt the Obama Campaign. They're no Clinton - not a fair weather friend. Nope, they've got that schmaltzy loyalty thing down pad - like one dead drunk for another ...

Matt Bai can be proud of his paper - an organization that has the best Press Release rewrite men in the business ...

The White House sends over talking points - suggestions - whatever, you know press releases and the New York Times hits overdrive in the re-write department. Obama and dems must be thrilled.

PRNewswire doesn't hold a candle to these boys.... Yeah, we're all impressed. Really. Really and truly impressed.... they suck more - or is it less? Something like that...

41 posted on 10/24/2012 4:11:10 PM PDT by GOPJ (Obama on Benghazi - - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nE-aorbApBw&feature=plcp)
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To: carumba

Down goes Frazier. Down goes Frazier. Down goes Frazier.

Come on, man. You have to do it right.


42 posted on 10/24/2012 5:13:34 PM PDT by Obadiah (The corrupt MSM is the enemy of the American people.)
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To: timestax
Here is a better one. I added the exclamation point to the newspaper headline !


43 posted on 10/24/2012 6:56:19 PM PDT by timestax (Why not drug tests for the President AND all White Hut staff ? ? ?)
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